LEAVE MEOWSCARADA ALONE

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[@triggeredcheese5318]

I was sold on Meowscarda as soon as I heard about the inspiration My love for it skyrocketed when I saw it in a picnic sprinting around like a wild animal that learned about Naruto running It went from weed cat to cocaine cat

[@ToxicPea]

The memes have truly come full circle. Game Freak embraced the bipedal Weed cat to the max

[@lazyrainysoul]

hisui typhlosion and meowscarada meet up on saturdays in the back alleys to chat and smoke crack

[@ToxicPea]

@@lazyrainysoul I bet Skeledirge would get along with them pretty well too, since he's fond of psychedelic ghosts as well!

[@TwoHeadedMeerkat]

@@ToxicPea As well as Slowbro, and Drowzee. Mr. Mime comes too, but he doesn't actually know what's going on -- it's just peer pressure.

[@marktheredlightning2829]

El pana miguel

[@SlimyTheNekoslime]

Honestly when I first saw Sprigatito's final Evo I got major Phantom Thief vibes from it.

[@thewooperbois7154]

I named mine Morgana who is the cat that joker has

[@astrotitan7542]

"Last Surprise intensifies"

[@KerethNoivern]

Same lol

[@calery5714]

Meowscarda: It's almost scary how good I am.

[@ValunarTonix]

Sheow me your true form, nya~

[@jaidora]

A really cool attention to detail is Floragato using its rose as a yo-yo and said rose becomes the stem of a bouquet for Flower Trick. It’s a yo-yo trick that becomes a party trick much like how Crocalor’s fire egg becomes a fire bird for its signature move.

[@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225]

While it does kinda tank that it doesn't keep the Yo-yo, it makes all kinds of sense; it was never meant to be a permanent part of its kit, it was a practice tool for training its hands to be better adept at performing legerdemain in its fully evolved form.

[@wwld9823]

>humans evolved from quadrupeds to bipedal >sprigatito does it and everyone loses their minds

[@gramfero]

i know right people have sex all the time so why can't i do it with a cat?

[@OneSpicyLoaf]

​@@gramferoi don't think... it... could handle it... what am i eaven saying...?

[@dropssky]

​@@gramferoand people like you also contribute to why people don't like anthropology starters

[@WolfLoverLisa10]

I actually picked Sprigatito as my starter for my first play through. I had known what the final evolution looked like already but I did not know its signature move. I love using Flower Trick in battle. Although something I noticed is that all three starters have a theme of being performers; magician, dancer, and singer.

[@Bugdoll]

Same here! Also, i didnt know that Skeledirge was a singer!

[@porkdedork8203]

I think they where suppost to be performers idk

[@nonyanae2]

Flower Trick is the coolest looking move

[@Bugdoll]

@@nonyanae2 you said it!

[@pirdotohs4959]

@@nonyanae2 tho in raid battles i wish i could skip the move anims cuz that wastes alot of time hhh

[@Ammiteur9]

My favourite is still Sprigatito, but I love it's evolutions. Because Sprigatito is so cute I was hesitant to evolve it at first, but once I evolved it I grew to love it's cute and a little shy personality.

[@Ditto.007]

floragato was the best mid evo in the entire franchise imo. Also, Meowscarada looks like a badass

[@h4ppyp3an4buter6]

@@Ditto.007 floragato 🤝  grovile best mid evo in the franchise (and braxien for the weird poke tokken weebos i guess)

[@OhWuh]

@@h4ppyp3an4buter6 I don’t agree

[@rjthemoneymantoo]

@@h4ppyp3an4buter6 put more respect on Grovyle man 😂 , he’s an important character in one of the greatest mystery dungeon games

[@m4rkmane]

@@Ditto.007ong still prefer floragatos design over meowscaradas but both still good designs

[@andrewlassen7430]

What I love is the fact the secondary typing actually makes them stronger than their initial elemental weakness. Dark beats ghosts, ghost beats fighting, and fighting beats dark. It's the first time I felt the the starters actually balanced instead of rock paper scissors

[@kazekori9593]

Skeledirge has a bad matchup against both meowscarada and quaquaval assuming no one terrastalises since it has no super effective stab against quaquaval and meow is faster than it.

[@battlesheep2552]

Ghost isn't strong against fighting though, it's just immune

[@andrewlassen7430]

@@battlesheep2552 true, but ghost usually gets some form of psychic move. This one gets Zen headbutt. Give it a quick claw or if you can setup a trick room you should be fine.

[@verywell279]

The Sinnoh starters pretty much all counter each other. Fire/ fighting, grass/ ground, water/ steel.

[@langleysenterprise5134]

You mean the second time since sinnoh basically did it first

[@seich-of-lacan-getter514]

"The Gato in GatorEx stands for catgirls" had me laughing like Stitch

[@leftygurl]

meowscarada’s grown on me, but i definitely prefer floragato. just a much more conventionally appealing design with more of the face that made me love sprigatito. also she has a yoyo, i love that.

[@GatorEX]

Yeah, when I first saw Floragato I thought it was a strong design and Meowscarada looks cool too, but it feels a little like it goes in a different direction that Floragato was starting 🤷‍♂️

[@rjs4176]

@@GatorEX From yo-yo tricks on the schoolground to magic tricks in the theatre. Now that's character development.

[@bigbosssnakecorn8834]

Lol you got some point there for me it’s like between Wartortle and Blastoise and I like more Wartortle as most fav

[@Jamafly]

SAME

[@BevvyIsTheBest]

I love floragato too, was kinda sad when it evolved

[@autismandgaming4532]

It’s my headcanon that sprigatito got so tired of everyone saying that it should be on all 4s, that it stood up out of spite

[@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225]

It did it way earlier than it's firey cousin did, and I respect it for that, even if I'm not at all hung up on the issue of how many legs a Pokemon ends up on. Basically, Floragato isn't a liar like Torracat was. It's upfront with you on how its gonna end up!

[@blackkyurem720]

@@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225 hah "upfront" literally

[@CloutmasterPhluphyy]

I think i would have rather had it stand up anyways as it could have led to a puss in boots pokémon and that would have been cool as well

[@nuttynutsnutstache]

The furry community was lewding its first state out of pure spite too 😆

[@atouchofviolet5138]

It quite literally stood up for itself.

[@whatgsaid]

Floragato is literally my favorite middle evolution of any that have existed to date. Much as I love Meowscarada, I wouldn’t be mad about a Floragato-like design being the final evolutions. As it stands, my Meowscarada is a chaos demon in every sense of the word and I’d do anything for him 🥺❤️

[@liviquail]

I gotta say, I'm getting sick of people dissing Pokémon designs solely for being anthro/bipedal or writing them off as "furry bait". And I say this as someone who generally prefers more animalistic/monstrous designs. First of all, anthro designs are very common and are not inherently bad or intended to be sexualized. The only anthro Pokémon that are actually suggestive-looking are Lopunny, due to being inspired by Playboy bunnies, and Salazzle, due to it's whole deal being that it attracts male Salandit and forms a harem. Even then, they're still animals in a kid-friendly game and thus aren't really that sexual. Second, a lot of these anthro Pokémon are based on concepts that would require them to be bipedal/humanoid to some extent. For example, Cinderace is meant to be a football/soccer player, and is bipedal to fit that. Quadraped designs are not inherently better than biped designs or vice versa, it depends on the intended theme. I wish some fans would learn to judge these desgins for what they actually are, rather than how some people might interpret them.

[@Ockto_]

Meowscarada really grew on me. Mostly because it's a primary part of my competitive team. The magician theme fits super well with the smug cat look.

[@jmurray1110]

Smug was kind of pointless to that sentence Smug might as well be part of the definition of cat

[@MrTommygunz0482]

That's how I feel about Quakavaul I wanted to hate it but it ended up being probably my 3rd or 4th favorite water starter.

[@yveshku5583]

I really like Meowscarada. While it isn't taking my top five, it might contend for sixth. I get why some people might feel annoyed, but who cares? It's a good design still and I didn't care in the first place if Sprigatito went bipedal.

[@beanburrito4405]

Not to mention, it’s the only bipedal design this gen, unlike last gen which had 2 (I don’t count Grookey line cuz primate). Fuecoco actually becomes a quadruped, which we haven’t seen since Samurott 4 Gens and over a decade ago (Again- Quaxly doesn’t count because it’s a bipedal bird to start with)

[@adam.n-steve]

​@@beanburrito4405also, it's a fighting type and most fighting types poses similar to human poses.

[@zacktates9111]

I agree I really love meowscrada but hate how it 4x times weak to bug

[@kikitanda4024]

"Who cares" dang watch the video before responding? People just want more unique starter designs that aren't super human like.

[@littlemoth4956]

@@kikitanda4024 It is unique tho. Ironically there’s way more quadrapeds than bipeds so this way it stands out even more.

[@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500]

Hisuian Typhlosion and Meowscarada: > hated when revealed > loads of speculation about what they could look like > bipedal > actually kinda cool when not looked at from face-value > weed

[@bubbykins4864]

Actually, both forms of Typhlosion are quadrupedal, in the sense that Pikachu is. I doubt that a significant percentage of the fanbase considers Pikachu bipedal, so why should Quilava and Typhlosion, which are also in the quadruped Pokédex shape, be treated any different?

[@emeraldjolteon1472]

honestly i think that the humanoids designs makes them a lot more interesting in my opinion. Meowscarada,cinderace and especially Incineroar are very expressive.which is made easier by their human-ish shape. something that other mons like venusaur,torterra,swampert have some difficulty in showing.

[@kittensolder8818]

People whine about starters developing new motifs and not just getting bigger as they evolve, yet whenever a non-starter just gets bigger when it evolves they complain about wasted potential (number one citation: Wooloo evolving into Dubwool and not a werewolf "in sheep's clothing.")

[@emeraldjolteon1472]

@@kittensolder8818 yup.and..why would a sheep evolve into a wolf. i mean it's creative sure but it seems like too much of a jump. maybe the people need to calm down and play the game before judging

[@hoangkienvu7572]

I think the opposite. Having an animalistic design makes a pokemon's expression way more interesting. Furthermore, a lot of modern humanoid pokemon designs just look tacky and convoluted. I love Mewtwo, Gardevoir, Blaziken,Machamp and other humanoid mons, but Mewscarada just looks awkward. Same with mons like Incineroar where the head and body don't mesh well together.

[@agentepolaris4914]

I fully agree

[@minicle426]

It's the opposite for me.🤷‍♂️

[@spyroclone152]

One awesome little detail that I love about Meowscarada is the potential reasoning why it probably has Protean as a hidden ability. You see, Meowscarada is indeed a stage magician but it also has a bit of a Jester theme. The Jester is usually a figure that represents the Fool arcana in the 78 Tarot Card deck. "The Fool" represents "new beginnings" but is also is described as an individual who doesn't know what to expect, fairly inexperienced, having beginners luck, and has very good improvisation. Basically, Meowscarada is the Joker card of pokémon, which I find super fun and creative (most persona fans probably see the correlation). But Meowscarada may not just be the fool arcana, but "The Magician" arcana as well, seeing as it is its title. The Magician Arcana is also a Tarot card that states "The message is to tap into one's full potential rather than holding back, especially when there is a need to transform something." I feel of the 3 protean starters, Meowscarada has the most creative take to justify an ability for a starter that I've ever seen.

[@razrafz]

it also helps that it learns a lot of strong coverage moves

[@fennecwolfox]

I like Protean, but I also like the defense against certain types that it gets thanks to Dark typing. Sure, it gets 2x Bug Damage and one more weakness, but it also gets halved damage against everything else but FOUR types AND immunity to psychic. I decided to leave its Ability as it is when I got the Ability Patch.

[@jmurray1110]

There’s a reason I called mine Morgana It’s because mona is apparently banned for some reason

[@jmurray1110]

Also they just merged protean

[@heresthadude1080]

MAGICIAN'S RED

[@supremeseregios6810]

Meowscarada has had it's reputation literally be 'Oh No! Anyways'. Once the criticism has gone and passed and actual feelings kick in, it is good to see that people are liking the design of it. I personally do like Meowscarada similarly to how I like Cinderace. I was skeptical at first for both of them, but grew to like them both respectively.

[@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225]

I feel it certainly helps that it kept all the feline characteristics that it's hot-headed Hawaiian cousin so carelessly threw away.

[@Unk0wn_stalk3r]

Weed cat? More like Catnip

[@pigeonfowl474]

I like Meowscarada but I CANNOT bring myself to appreciate Cinderace in any way. Not a fan of the Galarian starters overall.

[@shizachan8421]

For me, Mewoscarada didn't really hit that well when I only knew its artwork, but it really grew on me in 3D, especially in combination with flower trick. I really like how its jester-like design plays perfectly into its dark typing.

[@Unk0wn_stalk3r]

@@shizachan8421 *the wolrd is devolving*

[@watercolor4725]

I was sold on Sprigatito from the start, and initially was in the “don’t you dare stand up” camp. But I have to admit, when I saw the final evolution, being a persona 5 fan definitely solidified my choice. I have a Meowscarada named Noir, after my favourite of the phantom thieves (fav girl, Ryugi is still the best lol, but I do love them all)

[@neosonic199]

For me it’s NiGHTS (Meowscarada would fit perfectly in that world).

[@Flour_dood]

We will never have a chance to have a kiss of a pokemon. Meowscarada: allow me to introduce myself

[@introvertvibes6801]

I've grown to like Meowscarda over time, I named mine Masquerade and she's by far the strongest member of my team, I love battling with her, and it's a shame that people say it's 'furry bait'. Yes, it has somewhat of a body shape but it isn't even that exaggerated as some people make it out to be, unlike Lopunny.

[@gabrielchee8470]

Yeah it's design seems more gender neutral

[@Ruikasaceo]

And not to mention the fact that the gender ratio for Meowscarada is mostly male meaning it wasn’t made to be a “waifu Pokemon”. I don’t even think Pokemon has even made any Pokemon to be “waifu material”, people just sexualise them too much for some reason.

[@Gregariousness1]

I named my skeledirge Arsonist Jr.

[@CodaBlairLucarioEmperor]

@@Ruikasaceo Yeah. The only pokemon you could say that for is lopunny, but that was made before there was much of a trend of people sexualizing pokemon. And even lopunny is pretty tame.

[@wheatleyturret826]

Yeah true, although Lopunny still is an amazing pokemon even with the exaggeration

[@tylermatthews4251]

Also Quaquaval. His evolution line absolutely DOESN'T deserve the hate it gets. I enjoy all 3 lines for what they're worth.

[@Blackvoid2me]

Its because he's a fruity bird. Lets say the quiet part out loud. And i LOVE that. The gays love this pokemon tho and i am one of them.

[@tylermatthews4251]

I'm not apart of that community, I appreciate the fact y'all enjoy this line though. It's nice. He's got an awesome personality. Nobody can hate him for that.

[@ReconNarwhal]

I just really dislike its design. I thought it was going to be a sailor duck or a delinquent with a pompadour. Rn it’s the worst water starter for me.

[@robbieq7814]

Quaxlys line if my favorite.

[@robbieq7814]

@@ReconNarwhalok, fair point. But I’m happy we have FINALLY GOT A PECOCK POKÉMON!

[@edmarsouza2479]

I was totally sold on Sprigatito since I saw it's first photo, and honestly couldn't be happier with my choice. Meowscarada is just sick and the signature move is awesome!

[@magnusm4]

I can't decide between Meowscarada and Quaquaval. I love both deigns. Meowscarada got the masquerade theme and the magic misdirection part, I love that. But Quaquaval has such a personality and flashy design plus incorporating it's dancing into it's fighting style, plus the wiki's description of it's personality is awesome. Not to mention it's run animation that reminds me of Jack Sparrow's run yet somehow even more feminine and femboy-ish, it's hilarious. Plus even the wiki describes it's anatomy as "having a defined rump". That's too hilarious to ignore.

[@neosonic199]

I had that problem too, I simply solved it with Pokemon Home.

[@EduSolsa]

People are just disapoint because their fan ideas do not allign with the final result. As a brazilian I liked Quaquaval and according with its pokedex description, it even gives me hopes that a gen in Brazil (or south america) in the future. But Fuecoco still my pick, even if his final form ins't my fave. But I gotta say, I am liking this new trend for ghost types being exorcist-like.

[@AS-ri1mb]

“Fan ideas”. We just didn’t want another furry pornstar.

[@EduSolsa]

That too

[@aardwolf6668]

@@AS-ri1mb I agree with you, dude, but trust me, furries don't need anthro pokemon to run wild.

[@monkey_blu]

@@aardwolf6668 poor Vaporeon

[@aardwolf6668]

@@monkey_blu poor ME. I once was trying to figure something out about Houndoom's mega so I, in my thoughtless but innocent naivety, googled "how hot is Houndoom?". Don't do that.

[@zanwrightmfwr756]

I am one of the guys that wanted quadrupedal sprigatito Evo, but the fact that Meowscarada has a masked magician esque theme and a purple Evo, it became my instant favorite.

[@suckotaco7394]

When I first started the game I picked Sprigatito for the fact that I love cats but I thought it was funny because people called him the weed cat. I fell in love with mine and once it evolved to Meowscarada, I loved him. Super adorable! I love it when he runs around me in circles and when you press "a" on him. He gets kind of shy. I'm so happy that I picked Meowscarada! Best decision ever!

[@SnowyFooooox]

:)

[@tazien]

As weird as Meowscarada was at first, I've really warmed up to it, and wouldn't have it any other way. My lil Pepper is adorable in all three forms. Now we need a bipedal water cat

[@harry.t9523]

Agreed. I’d like to see a Water Type cat starter Pokémon too.

[@kitdoesstufflmao]

I honestly liked Meowscarada. It's cool and my favourite starter

[@neuromancer692]

Everyone likes Meowscarada.

[@AuraStrikeAce]

It's certainly my new favorite Grass Starter since Serperior. My overall favorite Starter, though, is Primarina.

[@stormvlogsrobinson5044]

Same

[@kitdoesstufflmao]

@@AuraStrikeAce yes. Primarina was my first starter and she was an absolute beast against Hau

[@caesar2185]

@@neuromancer692 No.

[@notsoAceTrainer]

I was fine with Meowscarada - I do like the more "beast-like" Pokémon, but Meowscarada seems to fit more the whole thing than Incineroar. I feel like that one came out of nowhere after Torracat. About what you said regarding Floragato... mine was so useless I was very close to boxing it 😅

[@brawler5760]

Finally, someone said it. People keep saying Meowscarada’s bad because of it going biped and having a stupid design, but what about Incineroar? The evolution was not only more jarring, but there was absolutely no hints as to what its theme was gonna be as a Torracat.

[@Ceres4S2D1]

@@brawler5760 Ahem, the second evolution of Sprigatito isn't innocent... It doesn't even try to show remnants of its quadrupedalism...

[@ediakin4993]

​@@brawler5760 who cares when we have John Cena

[@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225]

@@Ceres4S2D1 It's legs are still digitigrade, it's not quite an anthro cat person, it's more like an actual cat that learned to walk upright.

[@Flameblight]

When I first saw the starters Sprigatito was the easy favorite, with Fuecoco being a close second, and Quaxly... was also there. Those opinions never changed during any of their evolutions. I've never really cared about if pokemon were bipedal or not and personally think the harlequin theme of Meowscarada is really neat!

[@CodaBlairLucarioEmperor]

Agreed. Most of my favorite pokemon are actually bipedal, but I also love quadrupedal pokemon. My overall favorite pokemon is lucario for instance, and for starters it was Cinderace although now meowscarada gives it some competition, but I also love torterra, samurott, canine pokemon in general, luxray, etc.

[@Grimbaloo]

"Waifumon" "furry bait"... The people that say this are the ones at fault for seeing these animals attractive/compatible.

[@oranberry]

I have zero problem with anthro Pokemon or anthro starters, and I love Meowscarada, but I do agree it's a bit ridiculous that Incineroar didn't stay 4 legged

[@ScionStorm1]

It's just a bit annoying that the last final stage feline that stayed on all fours was Pyroar and that was nearly a decade ago. Meanwhile we get 3 dog families this gen and none of them are bipedal. Wouldn't be so much a complaint if Gamefreak didn't make it feel like a decade-long quadrupedal dry spell.

[@cooperminion825]

​@@ScionStorm1 I think it's bc anthro dogs have little to no references in pop culture but anthro cats are everywhere

[@flarecthefox6403]

Listen, I'm furry and I Agree, and actually his design is horrible, even for me xD Is not even Fight type to make "sense"

[@roukerasati9611]

I've been with Pokemon and Digimon since the beginning. If people have an issue with humanoids in Pokemon, they better stay away from Digimon because there's some straight-up human creatures there lol.

[@howard7318]

Leave Incineroar alone too. Why do ya'll want to get rid of his personality?

[@AuraStrikeAce]

Meowscarada has quickly become Top 5 favorite Starter Pokémon for me. I think it's really cool. Way better cat Starter than Incineroar, tbh.

[@Chaosdogg47]

Same here, but that's only because I'm a degenerate.

[@lordinfernape4753]

HMMMMMM I WONDER WHYY

[@-Darkstalker-]

Honestly in my opinion it's one of my least favorites *IT CANT BE THAT HARD TO KEEP A CAT ON 4 FEET* looks like failed furry suit

[@Syiepherze]

I think I agree. I still love Incineroar but Meowscarada has that nice combo of cute and cool

[@cooperminion825]

Everything's better than Incineroar

[@Kris_Delta.]

FINNALY SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH ME Meowscarada just loves his trainer for taking care of it

[@FishronCatFurryBoi]

Yeah, Let's hope it Keeps it's innocence by staying away from the simps...or should I say Mega Gay people

[@dhanushs.s2093]

sorry i have seen a bit too much to agree...... 💀💀

[@MiniforceRailfan]

*Her

[@m4rkmane]

that’s what I wanna believe but the animation Nintendo picked is just so weird the only innocent way I can think of it is like a cat rubbing its face on urs which is what I’m hoping Nintendo wanted it to look like

[@The-Floor.]

​@@MiniforceRailfanMeowscaradas are more male than female

[@heijkeinsegrantz]

2:50 need mommy lol

[@KidKatastrophe2314]

Skeledirge is one of the rawest designs this gen for sure. I really like the inspiration and the execution is sublime. Yeah, it’s another music based starter, but at the same time it’s really cool that you can make a team of Pokemon that’s basically a band. I chose Sprigatito as my starter and honestly i like this line. At first it felt a bit redundant having 2 bipedal cat starters, especially since I chose Litten when Moon came out. However, Meowscarada sets itself apart enough by giving such chill vibes while still being flashy. Its signature move is also my favorite out of this starter group. Honestly, looking at Quaquaval’s official artwork, the design isn’t that bad. It’s my least favorite of this trio, but it could grow on me.

[@alexursu4403]

You could say that Incineroar is more like direct brute force combat, while Meowscarada is closer to a thief/rogue archetype in standard RPGs. Kinda like the Ironclad and the Silent from Slay The Spire.

[@axley9007]

Based StS enjoyer

[@casualcrisp]

Unpopular opinion but this is one of my favorite starter trios

[@REDscar9000]

correct opinion

[@Caerulis]

It’s not my fave but I love this trio. Especially Quaquaval.

[@JayRedGear]

Same here. Meoscarada is my favorite with Skeledirge being 2nd.

[@diono5324]

For me it's the best trio since gen 4

[@roukerasati9611]

Agreed. It beats SwSh's trio and I have had no issues with SV's trio. For one? No weird middle evos. *looks pointedly at Drizzile*

[@siliciaveerah9327]

I love that this trio is based off of types of performers

[@harry.t9523]

To be honest, I was actually hoping for a bipedal evolution to begin with, perhaps something along the lines of Puss in Boots (which I’m now sure you could easily get with a cosplaying Meowth or Purloin) but what we got is the Masquerade Magician Cat: Meowscarada. Now That is Awesome! And I really like it. Sprigatito’s whole evolution line has actually become one of my new favourites among the starters. It almost has the qualities of both Joker and Morgana from Persona 5 rolled into one, as well as Sylvando from “Dragon Quest XI” and a slew of many other different characters. I wonder if we’ll get any more Pokemon that people hope don’t stand up but if they do, then they still amaze everyone.

[@alessandrosimonguerreroseg8651]

I almost always go for the grass starter anyway, but I also like Meowscarade for that phantom thief aura that have. About the anthropomorphic thing, I personally have never been disturbed by a fictional animal becoming bipedal, fiction could take many forms, sure there are weirdos out there, but they're not going away even if we ban this style.

[@enjoshi-godrez8775]

There a difference between bipedal and anthropomorphic. Once they become sapaint, they aint "animals" anymore. They're just different looking people, which seems very wrong for a pokemon.

[@enjoshi-godrez8775]

@@slugsarecool_really its not open to discussion. Equating a sapaint being to an animal is mental 1llness.

[@maxeon0937]

@@enjoshi-godrez8775 The fuck is a sapaint.

[@enjoshi-godrez8775]

@@maxeon0937 sapiant.

[@Bulbamaster4851]

Hot take... a pokemon being anthro doesn't make it immediately bad a pokemon being "waifu" or "furry bait" also doesn't mean the pokemon is inheritably bad even if a pokemon isn't intentially sexualized, the internet will find a way regardless *cough cough* vaporeon *cough cough* just appreciate the pokemon as we have over 1000 different designs on pokemon at this point and let people hate or enjoy pokemon however they like. whether that be hating on a pokemon cause they dont like it or drawing fan art of a pokemon because they enjoy it, there is not right or wrong way to love a pokemon. I picked the fire croc cause i thought it looked the coolest but i'm warming up to the other two starters as well. possibly one of my most favorite batch of starters of any gen

[@Cloud354]

My first thought when it came to Meowscarada, is Phantom of the Opera or an actor/actress in a play on stage, and in this case a he, Meowscarada has grown on me.

[@HatsCaliber]

My first thought was that it was a Zorro/Puss in Boots inspired design but we kinda got one last gen with the Nickit line.

[@alinalexandru2466]

Same. Tbh, not sure why they leaned so much into the magician aspect as the other two starters are based on a dancer and a singer so it makes more sense that Meowscarada would be an actor. But they definitely kept some actor elements there like some of its animations, its signature move with the switching stage lights and the dark type which could imply the drama/tragedy types of theatre.

[@skrrrtsusman3450]

hey man, weed cat turns bipedal, and amongus croc turns quadripedal

[@Hazzzyyyyyy]

Meowscarada is amazing IMO. I love how it has hazy eyes like it just smoked a joint. Memes aside though I love the phantom of the opera vibes it gives off.

[@1UpEXP]

3:36 Did they really yassify Gardevoir in the TCG?

[@wakeangel2001]

Meowscarada has a really cool design, but video game wise, it REALLY made me think of a Nightmaran from the Nights into Dreams franchise when I first saw it. The gender ambiguous, vaguely feminine body type, the mask with 2 large points, the magical clown aesthetic...you can put this pokemon right into the beloved Sega franchise and it would fit right in (heck, I named my personal one Whisper, after a Sega character, because the facial markings resemble hers) It IS my favorite out of this generation, but I gotta love Quaquaval for it's FABULOUS moves, in all honesty THAT one reminds me of a Brazillian Carnival dancer with the way it dances. I mean this with ALL of my love and affection when I say I would not be surprised if it becomes an LGBTQ mascot. Skeledirge I find to be the sort of boring one, since it's mostly just a red alligator, BUT it's signature move where it rears up and forms a mic stand out of the bird shaped flame on its snout before belting out a tune like freaking Vector the Crocodile is ALL sorts of awesome and really redeems it for me.

[@VestedUTuber]

I mean, Quaquaval _should_ remind you of a Brazilian Carnival dancer, because that's what it was designed to be. In fact, all three SV starters are based in-part on some form of celebration. Meowscarada is heavily inspired by both Masquerade balls and by Mardi Gras and Skeledirge's el Día de los Muertos influences are EXTREMELY obvious.

[@neosonic199]

Meowscarada would be a perfect fit for the NiGHTS realm.

[@rachelvelander5377]

Honestly, pokemon violet is my first pokemon game. Matcha, my starter who is now a meowscarada, is my first ever pokemon, and i love her with my whole heart. I never expected to get so attatched to pokemon so quickly when i've been neutral about the franchise my whole life, knowing next to nothing about anything involving the series. So, unfortunately, i don't have the context to really say anything as far as older games and generations of pokemon compared to violet/scarlet. But i love meowscarada's energy, and how the 2nd evolution seems to be in an angsty teen phase where they struggle showing too much positive emotion. It's so adorable, and having this little-sister-like kitty go through the whole game with me was an adventure i didn't expect. Even with all the bugs and glitches in the game itself lol. I love you, Matcha. You're a legend 💚

[@azazeltheundyingdamienkali5700]

I was sold on Meowscarada the second I laid eyes on it. I got a female Sprigatito, and named her Elaine, and, now, she's one of the stars of my team. 😊

[@neosonic199]

I made sure mine is female as well

[@Joshua-pt1ck]

Despite being a pain in the ass to breed for a competitive one, I still enjoy the cat boi. Named mine after Reala from the Nights games

[@antiblock1649]

You can just change it's nature with mints and ev berries, vitamins makes it much easier

[@Joshua-pt1ck]

@@antiblock1649 lol I know it’s just the IVs I was focused on and I wasn’t planning on hyper training. Future proofing when newer gens come out you know?

[@Chrispy]

@@Joshua-pt1ck hyper trained ivs are future proof

[@ZoeyEldritch]

The pushback on anthros is silly to me. I love them lol

[@ThePuff18]

“…which remain quadrupedal. Mostly” _looks at Perserrker and Meowstic, smiles fondly_

[@saxophonebuizel2458]

2:42 say it with me GRASS TYPE GRENINJA

[@Outdoor_rodent]

You aren’t wrong though XD

[@ninjakirby777]

I feel I should mention that all the starters have the same gender ratio, it’s not supposed to a part of their species’ design and how that affects the perception of their masculinity, femininity or androgyny. Rather it exists to show WHY the starters are a rare species. Basically, uneven ratio of more males than females equals a low birthrate.

[@terramarc]

Skeledirge straight up did the opposite of the litten line, at least in the way they stand

[@Caminopoi66]

Meowscarada rant: I love how fast it is. As long as I’m not dashing it can keep up. Grass dark is now gonna one of my favourite typings. It looks like it’s very agile as well as acrobatic. Flower trick is fun to use. I also like how well the move animations look matched with Meowscarada’s battle animations.

[@bethannebailey3497]

I love the entire sprigatito line! I think meowscarada is a lot of fun! I especially love its squiggly mouth and funky floaty flower and of course, the toe beans.

[@SoftBunnyPaws]

I love the shy pose it does while being cleaned, yet it's so cocky in battle. 🤭

[@GMOPsyche]

Finally someone agrees that Meowscarada doesn't look female at all. That and since fancy sneaky magicians have been one of my favorite character tropes of all time, so I really liked this evolution. Also, I feel like Meowscarada does the "furry pokemon" thing well, because it's obviously an animal creature. It has the face and limbs of a cat, but the rest is human, unlike Incin, which has a very cartooney and human face. That's part of the reason people dislike these designs but can't seem to pinpoint that this is the source of it.

[@iskrassupercoolchannel]

agreed

[@crackedemerald4930]

It's mostly the hips

[@enjoshi-godrez8775]

How is its face not human?

[@Cheesy_Omelette]

I like how Floragato just means flower cat in spanish

[@smoczayt]

Meowscrada looks so chill while still being a cat with zoomies, love them

[@SerenitySpiderMonkey]

I love Floragato and Sprigatito! Meowscarada is cool too I'm disappointed that its name wasn't Nyagic or Meowgic though

[@gustavju4686]

Idk, Meowscarada is pretty good. Mascarada (Masquerade) and Meow.

[@blueblank8287]

That might’ve come across as a little too close to “Meowstic”, but “Nyascarada” would have been extra-cute.

[@Dog-be2dt]

@@blueblank8287 Meowstic exists and how many catgirl fanart have you seen to want a pokemon to have "Nya" in the name?

[@Dog-be2dt]

no offense btw

[@blueblank8287]

@@Dog-be2dt That’s what I mean. If they had named it “Nyagic” or “Meowgic”, it would have sounded too similar to a Pokémon name that already exists. And “Nya” is just “Meow” in Japanese. It wouldn’t be weird to use in a Pokémon name unless people insisted on *making* it weird.

[@realwaifus5514]

Pokémon designs will always be contentious because they’re entirely subjective. I really don’t mind the combination of anthropomorphising and human archetypes because I feel it adds so much personality to starters. With Mewscarada’s design I could easily imagine it running around an opponents attacks with a smug grin or playing tricks on people.

[@KookieStar]

3:47 My Meowscarada (in which I've named it "Sonic" due of being my faster starter) always does this too. I tend to die of cuteness, because he's always running around me and getting close to me. Thats how much has bonded to me. Plus, I always use it as my first Pokémon and I don't even need to use the rest so much. And when he dies to a strong Pokémon, I use my shiny Lucario as my alternative.

[@nonameidea2951]

I named my Meowscarada Sora

[@DeepGreenLimeshark]

Meowscarada is an incredible attacker. And it's got an amazing move pool that can even act with some support moves.

[@neosonic199]

I love its speed stat, I equipped mine with Acrobatics and Power Gem to help it deal with Fighting, Flying, Fire, and especially Bug types.

[@Alex-lc5dz]

Honestly, i like all the starters. My favorite being Quaquaval by a small margin.

[@GatorEX]

They do be dancing 🦆

[@cappuccinocappy]

I gotta be honest , I was going for sprigatito but after seeing the absolute fabulous Quaquaval ,I knew that I needed this sassy peacock in my game. Meowscarada is still really cool and I will get him on my other account.

[@blackjacktrial]

I wanted Quaxly to head towards flamboyant fighter rather than dancer (thinking conquistador or musketeer rather than carnivale dancer). I suspect a lot of "insert reference anime reference" fans are in that boat - and the hair didn't help. It also would have allowed for a psychic water starter, which would be insane, and the idea of the Pokemon standing in for you in the fight has a certain parallel synergy there. Now if he started off more peacock typed, I'd be more on board with the carnivale finisher. It's just a bit weird that he ends up a different animal, like if Sprigatito ended up a fox in the end.

[@neosonic199]

I see what you mean, GameFreak employed various “mix and match critters” idea for Quaqusval’s design.

[@maxmorgan8736]

I love that the "Haha funny weed cat" just "Aight, I'mma head out"-ed the second Meowscarada was a thing.

[@Squid_Salad]

meowscarada and its prior evolutions are awesome, but skeledirge and quaquaval and their lines are also super awesome, i love all of them

[@Brianycus]

I dont mind Meowscarada because it still looks like an animal at the end of the day.

[@GatorEX]

Yeah, I think this Gen did a good job with the balance in that aspect.

[@Brianycus]

@@GatorEX Yeah. At first I wasnt fine with them besides Skeledirge, but the more I look at them, the more I'm okay with their designs.

[@Goro_Maj1ma]

Does it though? It looks significantly more humanoid than animal to me.

[@enjoshi-godrez8775]

It does not look like an animal. People that think characters with anthropomorphia are still animals have a mental d1sability, I swear.

[@Ashvee72-from-Thewildguess]

I love meowscarada so much. as a theater kid to the max when I saw it I instantly got massive phantom of the opera vibes and fell in love. I love the theater cat,It’s cool looking and still adorable,its bipedal but still feels like a cat. The theater cat is wonderful. Also I know there’s gonna be comments about it. Yes I know it’s based on a magician too,pokemon can have more than one inspiration ya know. Also magic shows are a type of threatrical performance.

[@neosonic199]

Don’t forget it’s hair and arms being based on clowns or jesters

[@Lumberjack_king]

I love skelederge because the contrast between a giant croc and the cute Lil fire birb is hilarious

[@clo-clo1010]

I will say that I have absolutely grown love all the starter designs! I must admit that I was mainly hesitant with Skeledirge, but after using it in my main playthrough I loved it. Same goes for Meowscarada. My classic U-turn having scout. I unfortunately don't have much to say on Quaquaval (I never used it) but I love all the flairs they added to its design! I can see why people are mad about the increasing number of humanoid mons, but I feel like as long as you can have fun with the game then there's no full point in judging.

[@neosonic199]

Quaquaval has a large move pool and the move Aqua Step increases its speed each time. If throw in its hidden ability Moxie (combined with Aqua Step), then Quaquaval will straight up body its competition single-handedly.

[@scarxnnivs]

Honestly the Sprigatito line is definitely one of my favorites. First of all, it starts off as a cat, I like cats. Then it becomes el Gato con Botas (I refuse to call him by his English name), using a rose to replace the sword? LOVE THAT. Then finally, I'm just a huge fan of magician-themed whatever lmao. Oh and also, I personally think GF really wanted to go with a Phantom Thief vibe for Meowscarada. With the mask, flowers and dark typing? Yeah, lol. On the bipedal "issue". I think it really is just vocal minority. SV is pretty rough around the edges (except it's mostly edges), so it's likely this just became one more argument that got shoved in the "don't buy it" train. Like, I seriously doubt any kid really cares that their cat stood up, I know damn well I didn't when my cat decided to become a boxer lol.

[@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225]

Personal preference? or has the English version of that name been ruined in your eyes by Shrek?

[@ScionStorm1]

Floragato has nothing to do with Puss in Boots. Besides, what does it matter refusing to use the English name when it's an Italian fairy tale anyway. Il gatto con gli stivali

[@MidnightCapricorn2696]

@@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225 I think it might be because that word for cat has been ruined by being used as a connotation for... women's private parts

[@skeletor4436]

I think it's fine if they're anthropomorphic if the starting form was anthropomorphic

[@AuraStrikeAce]

And yet people hate on Cinderace, despite Scorbunny and Raboot both being humanoid as well. I love Cinderace, btw, and don't see the issue with it.

[@aardwolf6668]

@@AuraStrikeAce honestly, that one is surprising. I absolutely do not like anthros. They typically creep me out, total squick material for me. But Cinderace? He's pretty well designed for what he is. I'm gonna guess he gets so much hate because of the fact he's the fire starter and we've never had a proper quadrapedal fire starter before now with Skeledirge (Typhlosion was depicted as bipedal in his generation, even when walking behind you so his partial quadness barely counts). Or in other words, he's likely a victim of a "ugh, here we go again" reaction. To illustrate why I think this is, I once went through all the fire starters, categorizing their designs, and came to the conclusion that the most unique one when it comes to design is Charizard. The rest are almost all bipedal (Charizard is too but he at least has wings), most are mammalian (with the exception of Charizard and Blaziken), many of them look fighting type even when they're not (Incineroar and even Cinderace), et cetera. So yeah, can't say I'm surprised that people are meaner to the fire starters when it took so many generations just to get something more unique (Skeledirge).

[@RevenantZavier]

@@AuraStrikeAce Scorbunny and Raboot are NOT humanoid. Rabbits usually stand on their hindlegs. Cats don't stand up period.

[@philipp_mn]

love this pokemon. its so cute! getting a photo of it can be pain tho. getting his face on camera took me like 15mins because it constantly moves away or hides behind me for some reason.. or sleeps xD

[@darrell4816]

Quaquaval is personally my favorite out the 3, he just has such a funny, goofy personality.

[@bowser_the_flamingshell]

for the 1st time like ever the fire starter is on 4 legs

[@thestickopia4619]

One of my favorite starters. It hits so many things for me It just looks really cool It’s dark type (one of my favorite types) A magician (I love magic and it’s a reason delphox is my favorite Pokémon) And still looks high as hell (weed cat is funny)

[@lyxthen]

Sometimes I feel like I am the only Quaxly fan in the house. I initially didn't like the final evolution, but then I saw the idle animation and I fell helplessly in love with it. It's literally so charismatic and funny.

[@neosonic199]

I like Quaxly too, the final evo’s design just oozes personality.

[@RinneyRin]

Idk who you are honestly and this showed up, but then you put Fauna in your vid, that alone means you're quite based. Subbed

[@tseantan]

Meowscarada and Delphox must be good friends

[@eldritchangel4058]

A fun fact, according to her Violet's Dex Entry, Tsareena views Quaquaval as her rival.

[@TheMegazonyx]

The very first time time i saw the final evolution, I thought it would pull out a leather whip out of nowhere.

[@unsolvedpower]

Honesty When I first saw them I was terrified on the fan bases reaction but I honestly love them all

[@sagesixparties7217]

The only Flaw is that it’s hidden ability is Nerfed

[@GatorEX]

Literally found out about the Protean nerf while editing the video 😅

[@Bladehound83]

Me with a choice band on mine: What nerf?

[@Realperson16]

Personal take regarding humanoid pokemon (and humanoid mons in the genre in general): while i never exactly hated such mons in the first place (infact, i quite like my meowscaradas, cinderaces, machamps, delphoxes, etc), the fact that they are so close to being human that it calls the fact that they are being treated like wild animals into question brings up alot of moral implications, its one thing to simply be bipedal (nidoking, rhyperior, palkia, emboar, etc.), its another thing to be a human with a different coat of paint and/or with a pelt

[@shizachan8421]

Tbh, this is one of these things I enjoyed with the Detective Pikachu Movies, how while some Pokemon are more animal like, others basically just live side by side with humans in cities and are just doing their thing. I feel like it could be nice of Gamefreak ever incorperates this a bit into the design of cities, that pokemon aren't necessarily just all like pets in human civilization but just living there among humans.

[@Realperson16]

@@shizachan8421 yeah

[@duyanhpham9227]

From fuecoco towards skeledirge it goes the other way around becoming quadrupedal

[@LattePunch]

I think all 3 of them are based around dancing in some way or a type of dance. Being bipedal while not essential for dance it helps. Even Sekedirge since fire dances are a thing.

[@BlastedRodent]

I can’t claim to like the humanoid starters, but it’s mostly because they look so much like characters more than creatures. They just look like they speak English. Quaquaval in particular would fit perfectly into Ducktales.

[@MsMoonDragoon]

I'd hate to break it to you but pokemon have always been characters.

[@sortascouseace]

I really like meowscarada. Mine is called presentation because it's pose reminds me of that megamind scene... You know the one.

[@GageOgonoski]

I love how his meowscarada just ran circles around him. i laughed so hard    🤣

[@_b7090]

My problem with meowscarada is that it doesn't fully commit to being slick or dopey and ends up in an unsatisfying spot somewhere around the middle. In a sense I preferred the second stage of the line. Personally I don't mind the more anthropomorphic designs, as I've always enjoyed Gallade and Cinderace was by far my favorite out of the galar trio.

[@redballoon9007]

That’s really the only reason why Meowscarada isn’t my favorite mega evolution out of the three. That title belongs to Mr. Dancy Duck (lol) If your gonna gave a flashy cat magician then GO ALL OUT! I was expecting a top had and a cape but what we got isn’t so bad. I like the idle pose.

[@jonaszprzybycien6545]

I'm glad ppl are finally moving over the hate for gen 9 starters. All of them are cool :3

[@symbiotesoda1148]

I like Quaxly’s final evolution because he’s just constantly boogieing down.

[@SharkiSharkii]

Meowscarada is my favorite one bc I love both unique and diverse creatures. I rlly like when they putted well, what it appears to be a mask on their face, it rlly puts the look together.

[@albertodiaz9296]

I think the problem with anthro pokemon is that they seem to be more and less beast looking nowadays

[@kyokugenryudisciple9349]

Well I named mine Novaqurade (Nova - For a cat we are looking after at the moment, and Masquerade)…and rerolled for a Female at least 6 Times. And yeah, I think this is the first time I was excited to use a Grass Type Starter

[@TheOnlyChara]

I wasn't expecting a Stage Magician...and I'm, not that upset either surprisingly

[@Arcana_zero_studios]

Hey look, at least Floragato was a cool way of having Sprigatito stand up. The puss in boots inspiration was fun and well done.

[@lordinfernape4753]

U really said Loppuny and Gardevoir LOOK neutral? Aint no way💀💀💀💀