I love how LeBron is campaigning for the Goat and Jordan just had everyone else argue it for him.
@chrisshowers21922 жыл бұрын
Wats understood dont have to explained💯💪
@mylanwright87412 жыл бұрын
If you're the GOAT you don't have to say it others will say it for you
@lifesagameandaryanswonthec2261 Жыл бұрын
BIG FACTS!!!!!
@harinderrana97352 жыл бұрын
I never heard Michael Jordan referring himself as the Greatest Player of all time in any interviews when someone has asked him.
@jaydot49562 жыл бұрын
So y’all mad at Lebron for believing he’s the greatest ever??? Isn’t that how he’s supposed to feel.
@thisiseliasm46452 жыл бұрын
@@jaydot4956 believing it and saying it are two different things, that’s the point. Every all time great believes they’re the best. But they aren’t doing interviews saying it.
@jaydot49562 жыл бұрын
@@thisiseliasm4645 if you truly believe something then why can’t you say it? Muhammad Ali said he was the greatest all the time and nobody had a problem with it.
@thisiseliasm46452 жыл бұрын
@@jaydot4956 Ali was in a single man sport. It’s different. The reason that you shouldn’t say it is because it’s all subjective. You can’t prove that you are the goat.
@thisiseliasm46452 жыл бұрын
@@jaydot4956 LeBron believes he’s the goat for coming back after being down 3-1 but fails to understand that he had no business being down 3-1. The cavs had enough talent to compete and beat them as we saw.
@johnnygarrett832 жыл бұрын
I have never and I mean NEVER seen or heard of another player in any sport being the GOAT with a losing championship record. Then LeBron comes along and that's not suppose to apply to him smdh
@focusedchick2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy! No other player in any sport gets credit for their losses. Since when is getting to the finals as impressive as winning it?
@@harrypponder7396 What Makes Magic so impressive is that he won his 5 in 12 yr career and had to leave on his prime. Pre retirement Magic always was top 5. All of those 12 yrs. Immediately top 5 and a FMVP. He was better than Kareem those yrs in the same team. I got Jordan as my 1 but Magic is a string contestant for no 2
@ericjordan60592 жыл бұрын
Once he retires, he will drop down on the list just like Kobe dropped on most lists.
@dewaynephillips8232 жыл бұрын
@@ericjordan6059 Kobe gets no respect and it’s sad
@SonofDavid08142 жыл бұрын
When all is said and done, and we begin to look back at Lebron’s career, 10-15 years after he retires. All of you Lebron apologists are going to have to face some cold hard facts! He went 8-9 years in Cleveland and couldn’t get it done. He went to Miami with Bosh and Wade, and when he said that he thought that they could win 7; they won 2 in 4 years. And, when they lost that last series; he bounced without telling Wade or Riley what his plans were. He then went back to Cleveland. This time with a legitimate # 2 with Kyrie, and still had to get Kevin Love in order to win! Also, you didn’t hear about Love having mental health issues until he hooked up with Lebron! Tyronn Lue in 2018, had to take a medical leave of absence dealing with the drama that is LeBron James! Finally, most of these teams he helps assembles as the unofficial GM! But, when things don’t turn out right, he distances himself as if he had nothing to do with it! Look at Miami and Cleveland now! Both teams are doing very well! It took a little bit. But, that’s how the process goes! He has never been and never will be the GOAT!
@jefferyhughes9052 жыл бұрын
Are you talking the the Kevin live who averaged 8 points per game and don't forget they won game 3 without him... That's the Kevin love u talking about
@Eddieraekwon2 жыл бұрын
Kobeizthebest2Me
@MikeBNumba62 жыл бұрын
@@jefferyhughes905 I mean people always tell me LeBron makes his teammates better.
@nsa46132 жыл бұрын
Jesus - MJ heads are so insecure - You can appreciate both! Both are amazing and in their own tiers, it’s Jordan, then LeBron (or opposite if you wanna argue) then everyone else Nobody even really threatens Jordan’s claim as #1 besides him and because it’s him people lose their minds
@VVVY7772 жыл бұрын
LeiBwong Xiames first had to GO DOWN 1-3 and was about to lose ANOTHER Finals before he got the favorable suspension to go with injuries the Warriors had. Guard 1-5? He sure couldn't guard Jason Terry and JJ Barea in the Finals. Play 1-5? He's a 33% shooter outside of dunks and layups and doesn't have a postgame he can rely on. Just STFU LeiBwong Xiames. I'm sure Winnie the Pooh wants you to make some comments siding with Russia. STFU about being the GOAT, when you have no 3peat, no dynasty and have been ringchasing like Robert Horry since age 26 and having prime Top 10 All-Stars sacrificing for you. Keep transacting for rings like the merc you are. You'll never be as loved, respected nor feared like Michael Jordan.
@MrLatifd2 жыл бұрын
For someone who call himself the “GOAT” & he quit / meltdown moment especially in the final series like playing for Cleveland & Miami soon will be in Lakers. I never seen Jordan did that after the Piston beat them twice. He had a desire & hunger to be the best by training harder, putting more weight and muscle and practice post up move against bigger & taller player and etc. Jordan is the GOAT and should be the poster child of the NBA and his legacy will be hard work & perseverance for those upcoming young ballers.
@1luvclothing3002 жыл бұрын
No he should not.. but not about basketball.. Jordan is an a**hole.. Lebron is the poster boy because he’s the better human being.. He doesn’t just care about basketball & that’s what kids need to see
@MrLatifd2 жыл бұрын
MJ wasn’t the greatest team mates which he admitted during the last dance however he said it to their faces and pushing them to better at practice and so on. Kobe the same because they are in the business of winning championship not friends. On the other hand LBJ just talk behind their back & used them as fall out guys.
@MikeBNumba62 жыл бұрын
@@1luvclothing300 LeBron is a better human being? Jordan is an a hole, yes. But he's not fake about it. Lebron goes to management and asks for coaches to get fired and players traded. He sends subliminal messages talking trash about teammates on social media. Lebron is an a hole. He's arguably worse then Jordan because he's sneaky with it. He also has a better PR team. He also lies about being involved with coaching changes and players joining the team. Hell team USA was close to kicking LeBron off the team because of his poor attitude. But Ofcourse you don't know that because it espn didn't talk about it.
@Reclaimer772 жыл бұрын
@@1luvclothing300 Oh yeah doing death threats on a cop on Twitter. Great role model for the kids LMAO!!!!
@christiano23492 жыл бұрын
@@1luvclothing300 ahole to who exactly?
@Militarize2 жыл бұрын
Jordan also led the NBA in steals 3 years in a row. He also holds the record for most blocks by a guard in a single season 131in 1987/88. He is also the first of only 3 players in history to have DPOTY, MVP and Finals MVP. Other 2 players are Hakeem and Giannis. His PER is also the highest in nba history.
@derrickket0872 жыл бұрын
I’m a MJ fan, but in all fairness to LeBron, defense was much easier to play back in MJ’s era than it is now.
@bmill87802 жыл бұрын
@@derrickket087 exactly u know how hard it is to play defense when any kind of contact is a foul or how fast the overall nba is now and how wide open it is alot of those guys in the past would not be able to play lock down defense with the rules and speed of the game as it is now
@x-man94732 жыл бұрын
@@derrickket087 That's not fairness to Bron. That's an excuse for Bron. The only reason Bron hasn't caught up with MJ in all defensive teams is because Bron chose to stop playing man to man defense consistently around 2014-2015.
@derrickket0872 жыл бұрын
@@x-man9473 It’s not an excuse, it’s the truth. Here’s why: -Players today are more athletic and skilled offensively. The shooting and ball handling capabilities of some players are insane. You have big men shooting 3’s. -It was more physical back then. Now if you breath on someone, it’s a foul, so you have to be more disciplined defensively. -No 3-second rule back then. You can’t camp in the paint like you used to. -No hand-checking now. You can’t use your hands to guide the offensive player to where you want them to go. -More possessions now, which means you have to be in prime condition and have peak endurance. MJ is my GOAT, but LeBron making the All Defense Team 6 times is nothing to sneeze at.
@x-man94732 жыл бұрын
@@derrickket087 Again. It is an excuse because you're using that as the reason he has less all defensive teams than MJ. And that's a flat out lie. Bron made 5 straight all nba first teams from 09 to 13. But he chose to stop playing defense to rest up on offense. He made a 2nd team in 14 because of his laziness. And he hasn't made a defensive team since. His inability to catch up with MJ is not due to the era he's playing in. It's due to him becoming a lazy inconsistent defender.
@CensorTube842 жыл бұрын
If you didn’t see MJ play, you are being fed a narrative that LeBron is the goat.
@joshgarconvil2 жыл бұрын
I’m 21 and never saw MJ play live but I can CONFIDENTLY say Michael Jordan is the 🐐
@denimjeg2 жыл бұрын
No the narrative is that jordan is the goat
@nickwilson63932 жыл бұрын
That’s a damn good take
@PlanetBu2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@hud12312 жыл бұрын
@@denimjeg you don't think jordan is?
@zicomoney36962 жыл бұрын
Lebron sound like he’s reading off his resume at a interview and the employer is not even listening 🤣🤣. He’s trying way too hard to convince people 🤣🤣. He’s still one of my favorite players though but he not better than Jordan
@HT-sm9dm2 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@jtremaine232 жыл бұрын
@@HT-sm9dm Very underrated
@chillzwills65232 жыл бұрын
I don't understand him. He's great but he always has to have validation from people...
@datsapaddlin2 жыл бұрын
@@chillzwills6523 it’s probably because he gets hated on so much. His own teammates in Cleveland was hating on him in high school when people asked how it would feel to possibly play with Lebron 😂. People act like MJ didn’t hold chips on his shoulder. All great players do that. The difference is today they are always in your face asking and questioning your legacy daily. To be honest he really don’t say much like he could. He can’t even say I feel like I was the GOAT at a certain moment in his life after winning. He never said you have to call him that one time. He said he feels like that about himself as any great should.
@kanebee68062 жыл бұрын
@@datsapaddlin He shouldnt say it and then say it again and again! Let others do it, but he cant because people arent saying cuz he aint the goat. he is a narcissist
@mr.hypnosis70692 жыл бұрын
Lebron thinks because he beat a team after being down 3-1 makes him tge greatest! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 so being 4-10 in the finals makes you the worst by default. This dude is ridiculously desperate to be mentioned as the greatest. Bro you aint that. Chris shut the door on this debate
@erikpuka26272 жыл бұрын
Pre Kd Warriors were mad overrated. KD nearly beat him with a mediocre Thunder team where nobody but him could shoot. With a choking Westbrook had a 3-1 lead on them. That was a worse version of 2015 Thunder that missed playoffa without KD.
@MikeBNumba62 жыл бұрын
@@erikpuka2627 I'll help you. All the LeBron fans boys told us the warriors were overrated themselves. When the warriors first got to the finals, all the fans said the warriors weren't good and shouldn't be in the finals because Memphis should have beaten them. The only reason Memphis lost to the warriors was due to Mike Conley getting hurt. Then when the cavs lost, the fans said the warriors only won because Kyrie and love was hurt. The same Kyrie that was considered trash before LeBron and the same Love that was considered trash in cleveland. So two trash players on the cavs were the reason the warriors won? Then the following year. Warriors were 73-9. Fans said the only reason the warriors made it to the finals was because the thunder choked. And then the warriors lost to the cavs. So how good are those warriors? Fans, specifically LeBron fans told us how trash they were. But the moment the cavs beat them, they make it sound like the warriors were the greatest team ever
@alanfelipe73622 жыл бұрын
@@erikpuka2627 Nobody wants to talk about that, KD had the Warriors down 3-1, if KD had the break of getting Draymond suspended for gm 5 for kicking Steven Adams. KD could have beat the Warriors in 5 gms.
@erikpuka26272 жыл бұрын
@@alanfelipe7362 damn right. Without a Superteam too. I will go to my grave saying the pre KD Warriors were overrated. Even the KD Warriors but the Pre KD Warriors were far from legendarym
@ericrivera58112 жыл бұрын
If he can guard 1-5 how come Dwight Howard lit that ass up!
@brendanwalsh8262 жыл бұрын
Jason Terry: “are me and my headband some kind of a joke to you?”
@tmac7312 жыл бұрын
I’m still waiting for a Lebron lover to explain 2009
@Avenue772 жыл бұрын
And I know Giannis would light his butt up
@dontshowmyname95612 жыл бұрын
PAUSE lol Especially when Dwight is involved 😂
@lancehood79162 жыл бұрын
Facts...
@acemagno3782 жыл бұрын
It's funny that Bron had his interview with Kenny Smith and told him how he was the goat when Kenny didn't have lebron on his top 5 list 😂😂😂 I wanna know whats going on in Kenny's mind 😂
@ivanviera47732 жыл бұрын
You will never hear from MJ that he its the GOAT he has a lot of respect to the players that played before him.
@ashleybellows85552 жыл бұрын
Yeah public but that what wilt and mj where frightening about who was better
@justaohioguy93792 жыл бұрын
Great for mj
@ashleybellows85552 жыл бұрын
Yeah u really think mj don’t think that every top 10 player should think there the best
@straightshooterdb2 жыл бұрын
but...MJ has said it
@TheeMalikPeterson2 жыл бұрын
@@straightshooterdb please provide the receipts. We are waiting.
@teonmccoy6332 жыл бұрын
I always thought KOBE was better than LeBron! Just me, I guess!
@PlanetBu2 жыл бұрын
I am with ya. Kobes skills were supreme and does not get enough credit for his chips with Gasol. That was an impressive run
@ArmsFerrigno2 жыл бұрын
You're not crazy. For some reason the media hates Kobe tho. Some goofball will jump on ur comment and repeat some bullshit he heard nick wright say but niggas who actually watched Kobe Kno it's not even close
@brendanwalsh8262 жыл бұрын
You ain’t alone bro… Kobe’s skill set n heart we’re on Jordan level in my opinion… Lebron isn’t close to them in skill and certainly not in heart and pressure moments
@RealParadox852 жыл бұрын
Kobe better IMO but its debatable.
@RealParadox852 жыл бұрын
@@ArmsFerrigno "Lebrons field goal percentage tho! That's why he's better!" Lololol. Media hates Kobe and idk why
@nigelmontenegro2 жыл бұрын
LeBron = Great player Michael Jordan = GOAT
@mbp70602 жыл бұрын
If Lebron was insecure in those interviews, imagine how he felt when Jordan got that huge applause in *CLEVELAND.* It's sad when he says stuff like this and then attaches himself to Tom Brady, Jordan and the Rams. He gives off loads of feminine energy.
@Nikketmzee2 жыл бұрын
He ha has a women’s spirit, it occurs a lot with kids that get raised by single mothers
@erikpuka26272 жыл бұрын
I realised that when he jumped on his sons High school layup line some years ago and was doing dunks pre game in a highschool game. The man really tried stealing the spotlight from his son.
@MauriSky24372 жыл бұрын
"He gives off loads of feminine energy." On point. With all this insecurity and validation shopping he does, he reminds me of a wife asking her husband if her favorite dress looks good on her.
@MikeBNumba62 жыл бұрын
@@MauriSky2437 the fact that he talks crap about his own teammates, coaches and managers subliminally on social media proves the guy acts like a woman at times. Yea Jordan was jerk, but he didn't hide it and was fake about it
@MauriSky24372 жыл бұрын
@@MikeBNumba6 honestly, I want to cheer the guy. But he makes it impossible. Even though I beat up on him as a non-GOAT, I respect his game and want to see him thrive. The whining and shading of his coach and teammates is a major let down. It's one thing for fans to do it...not you.
@comebackkid59762 жыл бұрын
Remember when Lebron said “I’m still chasing that ghost in Chicago” after beating the warriors. Meaning he did not think he was the greatest but he’s saying it now Bc he doesn’t feel like he can catch him in majority eyes. So he used his media fanboys to push his narrative.
@Thetruth110332 жыл бұрын
YUP!!
@bobt97052 жыл бұрын
100% facts. Also Bron and co. beat a crippled Warriors squad even though coming back from 3-1 is impressive. LB lost his goat status after that 2011 meltdown to Dirk and his Mavs.
@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju2 жыл бұрын
It bothers me saying "LeBron is the greatest" with ONLY 4 rings in a 20 year career
@AveryB.02 жыл бұрын
He actually said this years ago on his show "The Shop". Kenny asked him again what made you say that he was the greatest before (referring to when he said it years ago).
@comebackkid59762 жыл бұрын
@@AveryB.0 he said it in like 2018 or 19 but right after he won the chip he said he was still chasing mike
@HT-sm9dm2 жыл бұрын
“When Kyrie hit that shot… that right there made me the greatest of all time” 😆
@quo50482 жыл бұрын
The media would slaughter Kyrie if he came out and said that 🤣 they would b so butt hurt 🤣.
@erikpuka26272 жыл бұрын
Kyrie lowkey an underrated all time player. They said Steph choked but Kyrie turned into Walt Frazier on defense in that finals. Kept Steph in check. Klay as well. Was giving Milwakee and Giannis that bussiness before getting hurt in 2021. Was 29 ppg in 2017 finals as well and was the best player on game 3 and 4. They won game 4 and nearly won game 3 but Lebron and Korver choked at the end. Nobody gave the man the credit he deserved. 2015 game 1 as well he kept Steph in Check and was doing work on offense before getting hurt. He got a weird personality and is injury prone but a healthy Kyrie is like a super rich mans Damian Lillard. Nobody can guard him. He can do it all on offense.
@chillzwills65232 жыл бұрын
😆
@RR-vu3ol2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@imSLO-2 жыл бұрын
When has Lebron ever guarded the 5? Did he guard Howard when the Magic kicked them out of the playoffs? When has he guarded the 4? Did he man up on Dirk during the finals meltdown? Please can someone name examples?
@amaddenmind45972 жыл бұрын
There are none lebron full of ish 1-5 my ass
@luisvergara65022 жыл бұрын
He guarded Draymond at the 5 when GS plays small ball. Lol
@DanteGoldz2 жыл бұрын
@@luisvergara6502 Draymond is 6’5
@luisvergara65022 жыл бұрын
@@DanteGoldz I was being sarcastic ma man lol
@henryhoward27282 жыл бұрын
@@DanteGoldz c'mon give Bron his props .. Draymond is 6'7"
@thebxsavage2 жыл бұрын
You can feel GREAT about coming back from 3-1 to win, you SHOULD!!!! But that doesn't make you the GREATEST, the GREATEST would be never even getting down into a 3-1 hole. That's how some (most) are always going to look at it.
@dparks28562 жыл бұрын
He didn't say you should call.him the great He said he felt he was the goat
@capitanawesome442 жыл бұрын
@@dparks2856 he also mentioned all facets and he hasnt played defense consistently since MIA. And he waived off the last shot staying jn the corner so Kyrie could win it. AD made the game winner against DEN w Lebron standing like a statue. He has said years past he is chasing the ghost in Chicago. He can keep chasing he ain’t ever catching him. Lost too many times and gave up in too many finals
@dparks28562 жыл бұрын
@@capitanawesome44 Lebron has the most playoff buzzer beaters In history.
@stanjones96432 жыл бұрын
Jesus...he call himself anything he wants. Because your opinion doesn't matter.These two clowns opinions don't matter. When you have come nothing to become one of the best athletes in world and give back you dont prove anything to jackass
@MichaelJohnson-xi5lg2 жыл бұрын
Would the greatest ever get swept in the first round twice and lose for a third time?
@mellomd78312 жыл бұрын
The Cavs TEAM overcame the 3-1 deficit. Bron didn't do it all by himself.
@EricMrRareAir2 жыл бұрын
exactly! Kyrie played a HUGE role in that series
@DannyDoGood2 жыл бұрын
He lead both teams in every major statistical category. There's a reason he looks at that team accomplishment, through a singular lens.
@PlanetBu2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie gets no credit for that chip, its sad
@DannyDoGood2 жыл бұрын
@@PlanetBu He'd get no blame if they lost either.
@allenmobley84442 жыл бұрын
@@DannyDoGood so Lebron averaged 97 points in that series?
@TexasT3462 жыл бұрын
Rob was 100% spot on with everything he said from beginning to end.
@Jus-Tin2 жыл бұрын
Yeah because you agree with him It's called opinions.
@kapptinafrikaaah3712 жыл бұрын
Rob is a certified old ass hater bron just showing yall he's the ultimate boss he can go wherever he wants even if he's old and on one leg 90% of the teams would still trade all their players for him and yes thats including you haters favorite teams
@HT-sm9dm2 жыл бұрын
@@kapptinafrikaaah371 🤦♂️😂🤣😂🤦♂️
@HT-sm9dm2 жыл бұрын
@@kapptinafrikaaah371 🤡
@mofun53152 жыл бұрын
When its all said in done Lebron will have all the records: His problem is ... "I got eyes and I seen Michael play." lol
@HT-sm9dm2 жыл бұрын
Love this comment!
@fireguyhoseman59752 жыл бұрын
💯
@michaelsledge39042 жыл бұрын
😂💯💯💯
@graeadventures2 жыл бұрын
MJ played with 5 foot guards lol
@graeadventures2 жыл бұрын
Imagine MJ'S defenders are Magsy Bogues Spud Webb and John stockton lol
@eaglesfan19992 жыл бұрын
There isn’t any true bigs, rim protectors or 5’s in the league today, they are basically tall guards. Look at all the rebounds and blocking records holders, 95% of them was from the 80’s and 90’s…. Real skilled bigs always gave LeBron problems.
@z-mane14382 жыл бұрын
Facts
@michaelshackelford96242 жыл бұрын
Like who lol
@damienaiden43022 жыл бұрын
@@michaelshackelford9624 Prime Dwight.. ya know.. when Bron was supposed to meet Kobe in the finals 😉
@bdot47742 жыл бұрын
He avg 30+ that series.. try again
@bdot47742 жыл бұрын
@@damienaiden4302 ^
@floydjr14782 жыл бұрын
He wants his respect? He GETS respect. Many say he’s the GOAT. What he actually wants is a unanimous decision, which he will never get. Different people appreciate different things about the game. He should get over himself and take the accolades he gets organically instead of trying cry his way to a title he arguably doesn’t deserve in some people’s eyes.
@ZuurrPPP2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@rjohnson11832 жыл бұрын
Facts man. He wants a unanimous decision and he will NEVER get that.
@floydjr14782 жыл бұрын
@@rjohnson1183 None of the typical candidates will. Some will say Bird. Or Oscar. Some will say Jordan. Some will say Kareem or Wilt. Some say Magic. Some will insist on Kobe or Curry. And some will say LeBron. Each has a case.
@thinkcritically63732 жыл бұрын
Many do not say he's the goat. A landslide ratio of people vehemently affirm mj is.
@floydjr14782 жыл бұрын
@@thinkcritically6373 It's split and depends on who you ask. He gets enough votes. He should be able to live with that.
@antzking89352 жыл бұрын
Maaaan, sadly Lebron is or becoming the epitome of an entitled generation. Imagine feeling insecure over people calling you the second greatest player of all time. He feels disrespected for that. Sad.
@mylessmith80592 жыл бұрын
Second place is just the last loser. I don’t think he’s the goat. But it’s not wrong of him to want to be the best
@antzking89352 жыл бұрын
@@mylessmith8059 I have no problem with him wanting to be the best, but the public/fans/players will decide that. All he can do is let his play speak for itself.
@tdup1912 жыл бұрын
@@antzking8935 lol his play isn't GOAT caliber tht why he continually self proclaims himself tht and has his cronies in media, Sharpe and Wright for ex, blow smoke up his ass because if you tell a lie often enough ppl will start to believe it. I can't put a dude in GOAT convo tht scored 8 pts in Finals and got outplayed by Jason Terry 🤦🏽♂️
@ericjordan60592 жыл бұрын
@@mylessmith8059 ... Second place is the first loser.
@bktruth98042 жыл бұрын
Y’all need to STOP with that 2nd Best BS. Kobe, Magic, and Kareem STILL look down on him like WHATEVER 🙄
@crhuynh82 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: No top 10 in any sport history has a losing final record with at least 6 final losses despite of all these quitting, hopping and handpicking all these stacked teams to try to chase an easy ring. Keep in mind that lebron would have easily been 1-8-1 without bailout by allen in 2013 and silver stimulus package in 2016. If Lebron didn't benefit most of his career in the weak east (Esp when Lebron needed multiple big 3 stacked teams in order to get out of weak east), Lebron would have never made to a single final appearance if he had played his whole career in the west, which Lebron is only 18/49 final games against the west while lebron has demonstrated over again and again that he can't even carry his own team to a playoff berth in the west unless being saved and carried by AD, Esp in this whole embarrassing AD trade saga... Even worse, Lebron is only 10-10 against teams with 50+ wins and 3-5 against teams with 60+ wins in the playoffs despite of all these stacked teams lebron handpicked himself. Smh That is why Lebron will most likely finish his career as top 15 to 25 at best as one of the great empty stat chaser since the sport is to compete for wins and championships, not for stat padding empty numbers.
@ManFinest2 жыл бұрын
@@crhuynh8 Bron always had an inferior team lol
@Rivs51172 жыл бұрын
Facts LeBron is at least #5
@RealParadox852 жыл бұрын
As they should
@bobt97052 жыл бұрын
Bron had an Inferior team in 2011 against the Mavs?🤦🤦
@ivanviera47732 жыл бұрын
MJ made the All defensive First Team 9 times to Lebron just 5. MJ was a better two way player he also led the league in steals 3 times and was DPOY.
@justaohioguy93792 жыл бұрын
😂
@focusedchick2 жыл бұрын
Yep!!
@MVNYO2 жыл бұрын
He also finished top 5 for DPOY 7 times and runner up twice…
@timothyhergert41992 жыл бұрын
Yeah well Jordan was a two way guard. He’s a very different player than Lebron. Lebron is more like magic . And we all know Lebron should have a dpoy . They robbed him. Made first team all league and lost to a guy on second team all defense? That’s happening like twice ever .
@brandone.51062 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Also more MVPs in fewer years, more championships in fewer years, more points per game. Never had to declare himself the GOAT. Was declared the GOAT by others.
@bagoboy24462 жыл бұрын
Deep inside, LeBron knows Jordan is the best ever. If a man can be 100% honest, he knows when someone is a better player than he is. Ive seen both Jordan and LeBrons entire career, I still have not seen someone do the things on a court that Jordan did. I've seen Bron be great as well, but not on the spectacular level that mj was. Mj confidence in himself reeked through every arena he played, even fans knew what was gonna happen at a certain point in his career, he was gonna win.
@tharealest81902 жыл бұрын
Kobe did everything that mj did , there has NEVER been a player even close to Lebron . Jordan knows deep down that bron is goat that’s why he rushed his biased documentary out to try to sway the turning of the tide in brons favor
@thegreatoneforever55872 жыл бұрын
Jordan was a bum before pippen so how is he the goat? Jordan couldn’t even make the playoffs
@miguelalbertopenafeliz23682 жыл бұрын
@@thegreatoneforever5587 Jordan won rookie of the year and made the playoffs in his first season, what you talking about ?
@bagoboy24462 жыл бұрын
@@tharealest8190 😂😂😂... I know, you never saw Jordan play. Kobe didn't even do 5% of what he did. There's a reason why all the NBA greats still claim mj as the goat, even after seeing LeBrons career
@kobehardesty39132 жыл бұрын
@@miguelalbertopenafeliz2368 and didn’t win a single playoff game until pippen got there couldn’t win 1 game
@amaddenmind45972 жыл бұрын
I was a huge lebron James fan until the media started with the LeBron vs Jordan b.s then when he said he's the goat I really got off the train seen that man quit in games too many times
@Anonymous-gy4lp2 жыл бұрын
I seen Jordan quit for a few years to play another sport. Then quit again and comeback a fraction of his former self. Lebron has stayed a true professional for 19 years without dipping
@amaddenmind45972 жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-gy4lp the difference is lebron quit in the finals and in playoff games it a big difference jordan took time off because his father was killed then came back and 3 peated
@MikeBNumba62 жыл бұрын
@@amaddenmind4597 LeBron quit after he lost. Not lost, but got swept or blow off the floor lol.
@Hitemup7442 жыл бұрын
ITS BLASPHEMY THEY SAY LEBRON OVER KOBE 🤦🏾♂️
@lukelucky13112 жыл бұрын
Enough with this James is 2nd best overall Magic 5 chips in 11 years Duncan 5 chips never ever missed a playoffs Only season he aint win 50 games was a lockout Head to head Duncan won more vs James in the finals Make James better then them 2 make sense cause it dont James is like mid 20s and after this generation he will fall further
@raheimspells26062 жыл бұрын
I can name 20 players better than Lebron.
@trumpdrago5172 жыл бұрын
Nahhh. Top 20 is hate. I don’t like lebron at all but he’s top 8 at worst. Where ever you rank Kobe, lebron is one back or one ahead of kobe. Personally I got wilt, MJ, Kareem, Kobe, lebron
@ozzee50942 жыл бұрын
Magic played on the most stacked team ever. Do you even know who norm Nixon is?
@lukelucky13112 жыл бұрын
@@raheimspells2606 good work
@petermadash44882 жыл бұрын
This narrative that LeBron "can guard 1-5" is a myth, pushed by his people (read: former teammates) in the media. He cannot consistently guard Embiid, Giannis, Jokic, Ayton or even Brook Lopez. STOP IT!
@RedPhill242 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@marklap12242 жыл бұрын
Not now, but in his prime when he was a heat player I saw him gaurd 1-5. He guarded Tim Duncan m, Pau Gasol, Derrick rose, Tony Parker etc. Obviously he ain’t doing that now
@DrippingInStyle2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t even 11 healthy years he just never complained about it or took time off. He played through it. 1993 played the whole playoffs with a sprained right wrist. At 35 played through a broken finger, got toe surgery in the off-season in 1997, bad back, tendinitis in both knees, cracked knuckle, torn ligaments in shooting hand
@MikeBNumba62 жыл бұрын
Preaching to the choir. Only nephews don't know. I really don't get why they pushing LeBron? Is it too market the NBA? LeBron's final games don't even Rival Jordan's in ratings lol. There's no argument for LeBron. Malone was number 2 all time in scoring and he's not even considered top ten all time of nba players. I never seen a player get praised as the greatest for losing more then he won. You can't say LeBron had a bad team. He played with literally more hall of famers and all stars then every NBA legend... Ever. He's had more help and still couldn't get it done. Even when he had the better team on paper or talent he still lost. This debate been over 8 years ago
@SonofDavid08142 жыл бұрын
Rob has been killing his takes the last few weeks! This analysis of Lebron James is spot on!
@markfroman7382 жыл бұрын
FFOAT
@anuragminni27962 жыл бұрын
Biased for some obvious reason. Damn sad
@Briana-a132 жыл бұрын
I get Rob saying he’ll take MJ but I don’t agree with how he acting like Bron don’t have the most game winners in playoff history and the best shooting percentage in game tying/go-ahead shots
@z-mane14382 жыл бұрын
@@Briana-a13 lebron takes it easy ..he has damn near as many pass up shots than attempts to take the last shot
@stopcampin40972 жыл бұрын
@@z-mane1438 he has the most game winners 😂 that’s all you need to know I like how y’all try to poo poo it when it’s bron no one else tho 🤦🏽♂️
@kalanievans23412 жыл бұрын
When he dipped to miami if ended any chance of him becoming g the goat then he had the nerve to lose 2 outta 4 finals and go build 3 more super teams after that imean how is dude even in the convo? Please.
@erikpuka26272 жыл бұрын
I believe if KD was in 2010-2014 Heat swaped for Bron he wins Both Lebrons rings and + the Dallas ring. Lebrons time in Miami was an underachievement especially how Dallas went down in 2011. Had a superteam losing to a non superteam and was the 7th or 8th best player in the series.
@camoflauge12972 жыл бұрын
Never hear this mentioned but I will say it…. Do anyone remember when Jordan came out of college and played the Olympics? He was scrimmaging against NBA players… some all stars and lighting them up… that’s when the top college coach at that time bob knight said he was the greatest he ever seen.. in addition, he came into a league full that was a big man league where centers dominated and turn it into a guards league
@loudiamonds65872 жыл бұрын
Gave them the business
@twodeepupyours5082 жыл бұрын
Yup
@DemonKing-oi4jd2 жыл бұрын
But did he average 27/7/7 in the loss?
@torrisfairley32272 жыл бұрын
People forget he almost averaged 30 pts a game during his rookie season.
@kuyabens41052 жыл бұрын
@@DemonKing-oi4jd well if you loss that doesnt matter.
@twodeepupyours5082 жыл бұрын
Lebron acts like he won that "1" series ☝by himself 😂. It was a team effort and Lebron like "That made "ME" the 🐐" SMH 😂
@jaydot49562 жыл бұрын
Just like how Jordan going 6-0 was a team effort.
@XxX-wl2dm2 жыл бұрын
@@jaydot4956 and yet I haven’t heard Jordan brag about being the best ever
@Joes352 жыл бұрын
That warriors team without KD is the most overrated team of all time. Only ring without KD was when Kyrie and Love didn’t play. The only reason they won 73 that next year is because people doubted them after they won and they started to change the league with the volume of threes they would shoot. They were down 3-1 to okc that year when Russ and KD choked in the first place.
@longhitter842 жыл бұрын
MJ doesn't care. He knows his place. He gave it his all and has nothing else to prove on the court. He is at peace. He continuously pays homage to his elders and other legends as well as his peers.
@comebackkid59762 жыл бұрын
When you actually compare the teams Cleveland was actually better but they were running the Lebron system as opposed to a real offense and Lebron didn’t show up in game 4 that’s why they fell down 3-1
@dewanewelch17442 жыл бұрын
People never understand this. I tell people all the time if LBJ would have committed to be coached in a system he may have had a chance. Jordan could have put up whatever numbers he wanted. He allowed Phil to coach him so other people on the team could do they part and help. They always say LBJ doesn't have help. How can you team help you when you don't give them the ball or take them away from what they do best just so you can do what you want and complain about it after.
@MikeBNumba62 жыл бұрын
@@dewanewelch1744 I looked at the stats when the cavs played the warriors. Love in that series attempted less shots then JR Smith. LeBron damn near tripped everyone's shot attempts except Irving. So that tells me LeBron was not only taking more shots, but holding the ball and passing it to guys on the perimeter to force them to take spot up shots.
@brendanwalsh8262 жыл бұрын
People who really know the game, sports, and the human condition know that Lebron James is all time great… he is not in the same realm as Michael Jordan though…
@lifeisfortheliving20702 жыл бұрын
Youre insane.. the same realm? Competition matters.. Lebron has faced far better players and competition.
@realmatic102 жыл бұрын
@@lifeisfortheliving2070 Jordan is the more accomplished individual and team player. 6-0 v. 4-6…If Brady was 3-7 in SB…Joe Montana is still the goat. With 13 seconds left, with the game on the line, in game 7…you’re going Jordan>Lebron. You’re lying to yourself if you can’t admit that.
@crigonalgaming12582 жыл бұрын
@@lifeisfortheliving2070 Jordan faced more 50+ and 60+ win teams in his 15 year career than LeBron. Actually, Jordan has the record of beating 60+ win teams in the playoffs. LeBron has a losing record against 60+ win teams... Soooo?
@brendanwalsh8262 жыл бұрын
@@lifeisfortheliving2070 far better players? That play no defense.. bro it’s not an insult, Lebron is ALL TIME.. but Jordan is a far superior players skill wise and mentally…
@lord48062 жыл бұрын
@@crigonalgaming1258 no one cares about you damn 50 or 60 win teams. The jazz for example won 60 games last year aswell and they are trash. The talent lvl of the nba in the 90s wasn’t even comparable to todays nba. Its so insanely obvious. SAS, Chris, Rob are all boomers and totaly wrong about that. That bulls team was a juggernaut with no real competition when Michael entered his prime. LeBron went up against dynastys often on his own. Chris lost me when he compared the bulls 11 years to James Cleveland 11 years 1 by 1. And talked ignorantly about domination. Switch those players in these situations and look what happens. Sports media in America is at an all time low.
@dell79902 жыл бұрын
Kobe has a 3 peat and a back to back in the finals, Kobe only lost twice in a finals, Kobe is better than Lebron!
@jaydot49562 жыл бұрын
Kobe also only has 2 finals mvps out of 5 titles, Lebron has 4 fmvps in all 4 titles. Also not to mention Lebron leads Kobe in every statistical category except for free throw shooting, so going by the statistics and individual accolades Lebron is a better player than Kobe.
@fireguyhoseman59752 жыл бұрын
So if we're going on stats and individual accolades, then we'd have to mention Kareem abdul jabbar in this conversation
@dkallday1972 жыл бұрын
I personally have Kareem ahead of bron. But its close. But between bron and kobe, bron has him beat in advanced stats, regular season stats, playoff stats, clutch stats, accolades. Only FTs is what Kobe does better then bron. Kobe fans hang their hats on kobes defensive nods but, bron has less but sits at 12th all time in defensive winshares and kobe at 44th. More steals and blocks and that was in a much shorter time then kobe. There's no grey area between these two.
@dell79902 жыл бұрын
@@fireguyhoseman5975 Kobe has more skills and a better shooter, i rather Kobe than Lebron in a final minute situation. Kobe dropped 50 on mike couldnt guard Kobe 8. Kobe 24 became a slower player that played in the post or jump shoot. Kobe 8 was a monster that was unguardable!
@jaydot49562 жыл бұрын
@@fireguyhoseman5975 Kareem is in the conversation. Kareem is the only other player other than Jordan I would consider putting over Lebron.
@troublefollows99862 жыл бұрын
Laughing the whole time lebron was capping. Self capping. 🤣 he came Back down 3-1 cause he let them get down 3-1. Where's the blame for that? Lebron the king ignoring the negative, highlights positive.
@lighteningbladegordon75622 жыл бұрын
He was down 3-1 to literally the best team to ever play basketball.. ( best record ever ) Warriors . Do you even watch basketball lol everybody went down 3-1 against them 🤣
@swazie84552 жыл бұрын
@@lighteningbladegordon7562 nah thunder we’re up 3-1
@ursula34382 жыл бұрын
@@lighteningbladegordon7562 To call them "the greatest team" at that point is a bit of an overhype. That was obviously before they acquired KD, also Draymond got suspended and Bogut got hurt. People forget that Bogut was once a no 1 pick, and albeit he was no superstar, he was a very good starter in his Warrior years and their rim protector. Kawhi beat an injury depleted Warriors almost on his own (no disrespect to Siakam and Lowry but prime Kyrie is obviously more valuable) and got very little respect compared to Bron.
@lighteningbladegordon75622 жыл бұрын
I refer you to there record that season . That is all ... They are LITERALLY the best assembled they had the best record EVER and won it all ... When another team does that then there a argument LeBron went TOE TO TOE with them by himself Jordan never been to the finals by himself let alone by it past the 2nd round ..... I rest my case
@swazie84552 жыл бұрын
@@lighteningbladegordon7562 he didn’t kyrie irvining and Kevin love
@PeteJones4252 жыл бұрын
Lebron would be in the GOAT discussion if all of his championships were in Cleveland but he went the other way. Now even Cleveland prefers MJ.
@jayrich69652 жыл бұрын
Huh man preach. .
@crhuynh82 жыл бұрын
Of course, this is obviously because MJ stayed and built a team dynasty rather than keep quitting to become an easy ring chasing mercenary like what lebron did, esp when lebron keeps quitting whenever adversity hits as he quit and left his hometown cleveland dead and dried twice
@hbb75282 жыл бұрын
He is In the discussion
@eastgate61342 жыл бұрын
The GOAT debate is dead. They showed nuthin but love to each other. Yall care more than them
@focusedchick2 жыл бұрын
Yessir!!
@emmureify2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why lebum James will never be the goat
@dparks28562 жыл бұрын
I think he's really goat
@ALI-om2re2 жыл бұрын
LeBron personality is the biggest detriment to his legacy. Always complaining about something on and off the court.
@jimmyconway60802 жыл бұрын
LeBron is smart he’s keeping the conversation alive so he can be relevant another 10 years.
@cpimpmr2 жыл бұрын
Hold up. Did Bron just tell me he's the greatest I've ever seen in my 38 years of watching bball? Well damn 😳 idk that..😂😂😂😂😂 tha balls on this dude 😂😂😂😂😂
@StayTru1012 жыл бұрын
Lmfaoooooo
@HT-sm9dm2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@thereal_andythetruth2 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand how Kobe keep being skipped. Kobe was the closest thing to Jordan
@keysersoze65062 жыл бұрын
"I can guard 1-5" but somehow MJ is by far a better defender
@carlingram83162 жыл бұрын
LeBron saying he can guard 1-5 doesn't make it true. How you think he would do guarding Embiid or Jokic? And MJ has more 1st team All Defense selections, plus a DPOY. Greatest is an opinion anyways. Everyone can have a different one, and none of them are wrong.
@abdiaden70492 жыл бұрын
@@carlingram8316 True, LeBron wouldn't be able to guard 4s or 5s like Duncan, Hakeem, Shaq, Robinson, Ewing, KG, Kareem or even prime AD/Dwight lol. He can guard 2-3 very well in his prime, but he would struggle with faster 1-2 guards like A.I.
@lord48062 жыл бұрын
Bs
@carlingram83162 жыл бұрын
@@lord4806 which part is BS?
@chillzwills65232 жыл бұрын
LeBron to me has always been a insecure mega star. Seems like he tries to use anything to inch pass Jordan.. what's funny is during the top 75 into Jordan got the biggest ovation in Cleveland.. that speaks volumes.. even when you seem Jordan everyone was flocking to him during the Allstar game.. and he hasn't played in 20 years.
@lord48062 жыл бұрын
The biggest ovation got Lebron when he got introduced in his all star team. They seeing Michael not nearly as frequently than Lebron in the last 20 years ofc they want to show him his respect. LeBron is omnipresent in the media for 2 decades in an arguably annoying extent.
@ericjordan60592 жыл бұрын
@@lord4806 ... Nope, try again. There were great players playing now AND other players who haven't been seen frequently and Jordan still got that. You people kill me with this frame of mind. Grow up!
@Dannycuddy2 жыл бұрын
Can anyone explain why Lebron and his fans think that one series, the 3-1 comeback against the 73 win team makes him the GOAT? It’s such an asinine take. Kyrie averaged 30+ in that series and hit the series winning shot, does that make him the 2nd greatest player ever? KD and Russ were up 3-1 on that same 73 win team. So are they the 3rd and 4th greatest players of all time? Why did Lebron even go down 3-1 in the first place? OKC clearly showed that Warriors team was beatable the round before, it’s not like they were an unbeatable team sweeping through the playoffs.
@twodeepupyours5082 жыл бұрын
Your soooo RIGHT 👍Have you ever heard Lebron say 2016 CAVS were the greatest team of all time? ... I haven't.
@jrocmfdeal9182 жыл бұрын
I called BS on that series when Draymond got suspended for his little brush up with LBJ but he was drop kicking OKC in the nuts left and right with no repercussions.
@straight_NoChaser2 жыл бұрын
Yup, the league did that to make it easier for Lebron to win. The NBA is a business and has helped Lebron as much as they could to look good lol. Dude just ain’t on that MJ level.
@divineelivation91182 жыл бұрын
🤣😂🤣😂🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
@anthonyslazas28982 жыл бұрын
Go from team to team and leave them when he's used them up!
@kingsleyjackson82872 жыл бұрын
The goat (going on another team)
@1017KushNoLove2 жыл бұрын
Rob was like Palpatine in this clip 😂 getting Chris over to the dark side
@NazarethHill2 жыл бұрын
Lmfao rotfl
@GGG_152 жыл бұрын
Lol say it ain’t so
@bobbykotick26422 жыл бұрын
wilt > lebron who cares if lebron led the league in assists one time, so did wilt.
@garyridgeway37702 жыл бұрын
With all due respect wilt isn’t better than Lebron
@DemonKing-oi4jd2 жыл бұрын
@@garyridgeway3770 Wilt has more individual records, played a superteam every year he was in the league, and had rules made to limit his dominance. LeBron has longevity and a better all around game.
@DavidLoveOfficial2 жыл бұрын
"Everybody ate under Bron's watch." 😂😂😂
@leekautz29262 жыл бұрын
He's top 5 all time. Legacy done. Never catching mike. Keep dreamin.
@flyguy78252 жыл бұрын
Lebron has to be the most criticized player ever!!! A guy of this status cares about his legacy what's wrong with that? If he wants to go back to cleavland he will I mean did anyone really expect him to stay forever with the lakers?lol
@darnellwilliams87832 жыл бұрын
fly guy hes always saying hes the goat low self esteem lequeen has quit on many team he traded all the Lakers you g peices now the Lakers will be irrelevant once he leaves
@otownboy87492 жыл бұрын
Because it's blatantly obvious that he's all about himself. Sure, great players do want to be great. But it's done within team success, but he makes it clear what his personal objectives are
@theworkethic2 жыл бұрын
Legacy is narcissistic. It’s ego stuff. He needs time to reflect outside of his basketball identity. He is attached to too many concepts, some non duality reflection would help him.
@jay072619862 жыл бұрын
Kobe was more criticized...he didn't have any apologists...
@tye97132 жыл бұрын
I still got Kareem above him n kobe because kobe stil has 5 rings n he only played for 1 franchise n he has his own records that lebron cant touch
@attinger1172 жыл бұрын
MJ is far and away the GOAT. Lebron is in the conversation with kareem for #2. Give it 10 years after Lebron retires, and it will be evident how much the media has been hyping up Lebron and influencing how we currently view him. In 10 years the NBA will be focused on someone new and in the rear view mirror we will still be talking about Jordan only, just like we do now.
@munishyadav4562 жыл бұрын
💯
@zbjet12 жыл бұрын
It all depends on the era, LBJ def the greatest all around in the 2010+ era, but as MJ says its really hard to say someone is a GOAT, since you're comparing across eras (I think Mike would be great in any era - thats just my opinion tho)
@Anonymous-gy4lp2 жыл бұрын
So would Lebron. Imagine if he played in the 90s. Dude would developed a jumper as a rookie. Unstoppable
@gagandhaliwal93912 жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-gy4lp dude stfu. His jumper has been ass in today's era developed a jumper in the 90s ?😂😂 He can't even make free throws. Majority of his points come from 0-3 ft from the basket. He's not a good shooter.
@jonathanblaze16482 жыл бұрын
Lebron is top 10 all time. He should be happy with that.
@bradybryant17702 жыл бұрын
No he's not. Not with 6 finals losses.
@von68262 жыл бұрын
@@bradybryant1770 you’re goofy
@warriorelete2 жыл бұрын
@@bradybryant1770 then why was he rated number 2 behind jordan on the 75th anniversary team?
@jonathanblaze16482 жыл бұрын
@@bradybryant1770 Where would you rank him?
@bradybryant17702 жыл бұрын
@@warriorelete I could give two fucks what he was rated. 6 time finals losers don't belong in the top 10
@whitebelt29052 жыл бұрын
“I can guard the 5”. HAHAHAHAHA
@floydjr14782 жыл бұрын
RIGHT???!! What 5? They got 5s? Where? LOL.
@DemonKing-oi4jd2 жыл бұрын
In 2009 against Dwight remember?
@whitebelt29052 жыл бұрын
@@DemonKing-oi4jd Dude, Lebron wasn’t the primary defender. Besides, Lebron didn’t fair well when he did defend him
@DemonKing-oi4jd2 жыл бұрын
@@whitebelt2905 I was being sarcastic lol
@AysarAburrub2 жыл бұрын
i dont care how good you are, its not your job to tell us how good you are. The moment you say look at how great i am, you're disqualified.
@justinsalzl15172 жыл бұрын
If a guy walks into a bar, and announces to all the ladies that, “I’m the most confident person in the bar”, you’re clearly not the most confident person in the bar. This just shows how insecure he still is. There’s no shame coming in second to MJ. And most importantly, these are conversations for the fans and the other all time greats to discuss. No matter how lebron really feels, there’s nothing to gain from trying to convince people you are the greatest.
@tjleaf35102 жыл бұрын
I think somebody INTERVIEWING YOU is different from walking into a bar and announcing it 😂 Just say you think MJ is better and go
@JamesSmith-gz1zn2 жыл бұрын
@@tjleaf3510 people ask Michael the same question and you have yet to hear him say I’m the greatest basketball player to ever live. He always says you can’t compare eras with one another because the game has evolved. I love Lebrons game and I have him very close to Jordan as the greatest. This younger generation has Steph Curry as the greatest(I work with a lot of youth). In the end let’s appreciate them both. This debate will last a little minute in most peoples eyes. I just hope my generation and older appreciates bron while he’s playing
@justinsalzl15172 жыл бұрын
@@JamesSmith-gz1zn agreed.
@justinsalzl15172 жыл бұрын
@@tjleaf3510 that’s not a bad point, but he also just posted a picture of Kareem placing a crown on his head. Maybe someone asked him to do that too.
@nostalgicgamer13632 жыл бұрын
Man they had a lot of help from the refs and injuries..I almost quit watching basketball after that finals..I remember when Steph got thrown out of game 6 it was crazy..draymond got suspended a game 😆😆 it was a mess…
@erikpuka26272 жыл бұрын
Yeah bruh. They suspended Draymind for saying the B Word. They would have never suspended Bron or KLove for only that. That was crucial to the Warriors loss
@ericjordan60592 жыл бұрын
Yep, but people conveniently forget those things and skate to Lebron won the chip over the great Warriors. Straight bullshit!
@johnjones5282 жыл бұрын
Broussard on another show: "LeBron had 11 healthy seasons in Cleveland and produced a championship. Michael played 11 healthy seasons and produced 6!" Facts, Broussard. Pure Facts.
@SophiliaLarkWoodbury2 жыл бұрын
I'm with Rob. At this point, I feel bad for LeBron. He made it a goal to chase Jordan, and he failed. He is grieving the loss, but I hope one day he will be able to see that with all of his unprecedented success, it was ridiculous to try and catch Jordan in the first place. He could have become something much greater, like what Stephen Curry has done... and lastly, did he just say he is the greatest player people have ever seen? Like how do you become so delusional that you think you can tell people you're the best they've ever seen? This is yet another reason why he will never sniff the true GOAT title.
@datsapaddlin2 жыл бұрын
Lol so what dudes a first ballot hall of famer that gets talked about every day by people that couldn’t make the league 😂.
@dwayne1star3172 жыл бұрын
@@datsapaddlin who do u think LJ is trying to convince he is the greatest? It us common folks, not NBA players.
@datsapaddlin2 жыл бұрын
@@dwayne1star317 He said he felt like he was the greatest when they beat the Warriors…not that you have to call him the greatest. He felt self fulfillment and common bums aint like it 😂
@jonathanbaskerville62142 жыл бұрын
@@datsapaddlin Exactly he felt like the greatest Hes not asking people to say Hes the greatest.
@jonathanogundeji43422 жыл бұрын
I agree Lebron is insecure, because after 2016 if he thinks that made him the GOAT, why did he then say that he's "chasing the ghost in chicago?" I got MJ as the GOAT but to me there is n doubt that whoever you think the GOAT is, MJ and LeBron are at least 2 of the top 3 ever and in my opinion, the two greatest players in history
@BrokeMillionaire12 жыл бұрын
Pippen almost led the Bulls to the Finals without MJ. When LeBron left the Cavs, the franchise imploded. What did Kyrie and Love do before they had LeBron? How many playoff games had they ever played in?
@CSTYLETHESLIM2 жыл бұрын
How many players and picks did they have to give up to get lebron when he returned. How many players did he want traded to get kevin love on his team including andrew wiggins.. so of course when he leaves he leaves the team depleted from picks and other good role players traded during his tenure. When Mj left after the 93 season the bulls team was still intact minus him so stop the nonsense. Lebron is a stat padding fraud but he do have talent but has other allstars he has to join just to lose most of his finals appearances with.
@Brehon_TalkingFinance2 жыл бұрын
Different times. Lebron teams are build solely around him. Organizations build teams. Lebron is the team along with a bunch of spot up shooters.
@Dannycuddy2 жыл бұрын
Nice take from 2015 lol. Every team Lebron leaves becomes a dumpster fire because he gets rid of picks and young players for veterans. The team ages out, then Lebron leaves them with no picks and no players. Of course they’re going to be in the lottery. The lakers team is going to be trash when Lebron leaves too. Lebron destroying every team then leaving makes him look worse, not better 😂
@tonetone61682 жыл бұрын
I have a question....if Steph Curry wins the championship this year, and somehow wins a 5th next year and/or the year after that....will Steph be greater than Lebron?
@bamaboyburns80792 жыл бұрын
Technically yes because he has owned bron in the finals and reg season and steph is more fun to watch Lebron is great but he not the goat he’s had too many bad moments and stacked the deck and still lost games meltdowns flops etc
@kuyabens41052 жыл бұрын
a big YES.
@josefrootgum2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Imagine achieving all that despite not being a 6'9 tank.
@vintagemonte2 жыл бұрын
Jordan literally pressed to have The Last Dance done & released because Lebron beat Golden State. They’re both insecure 😂
@adtastic15332 жыл бұрын
LOL! 🤡
@columbusoking812 жыл бұрын
Or it was a pandemic and sports was cancelled so they knew views would be off the charts equlying more $$$..but you can believe what you want
@vintagemonte2 жыл бұрын
@@columbusoking81 i will
@deeessex112 жыл бұрын
He just wanted you to know who's actually the GOAT without out saying it. Last Dance.
@vintagemonte2 жыл бұрын
@@adtastic1533 🎪🎡🎠🤹🎢
@youngcnyce2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the more LeBron feels the need to publicly say he's the goat it comes off as really pathetic. Jordan is the goat without question, even Cleveland acknowledges it.
@Zackaveli2 жыл бұрын
Yeah bron can’t be boisterous in any fashion or he’s insecure… but Jordan can get offended by any little eye roll and that’s what makes him the goat.. his competitiveness. Give me a break.
@herbertdaniel44222 жыл бұрын
Jordan can invite his high school gym teacher to a ceremony just to publicly call him out for not believing in him, but he's not insecure at all lol
@dnice41452 жыл бұрын
Stop whining, Jordan kept it on the court using it to fuel his competitive spirit. You never saw him say, "that right there made me the greatest " in scripted media events. Lebron and his people take this stuff too seriously, which is why alot of the public is reluctant to give him praise.
@blazedup42082 жыл бұрын
If people think this is "hating" on Lebron just wait the criticism from team jordan is only gonna get more heated the closer he gets to breaking Kareems record
@blazedup42082 жыл бұрын
@SuperPunch76 yeah just depends on how you look at it its basically the inverse of each other because when he gets the record that'll be something Team lebron can now claim as the one thing that Jordan can never do and that's scoring more points in nba history than any other player to ever touch a basketball
@johnjones5282 жыл бұрын
Anyone who knows the data, understands instinctively that Michael Jordan has no peer. That is not a knock against LeBron James who is a generational talent and most impressive. This is just in recognition of the fact that Michael Jordan leads LeBron James on so many levels across the board and is so persistently dominant that it begs an explanation. Michael Jordan leads LeBron in P ER, box plus minus, win share average, and value over replacement player average. Jordan also leads LeBron in game score, which calculates the 100 most outstanding games played in the last 40 years by any individual athlete in the NBA. To be sure, LeBron James acquits himself very well in this category, claiming three of the most outstanding games in NBA history. Michael Jordan, however, is on another level, with 19 such games. That literally means that one out of every five of the most outstanding games performed by an NBA athlete in the last 40 years goes to Mr. Jordan. No wonder he’s the goat.
@PayMeNoMind2 жыл бұрын
I’m not an analytics guy, and don’t even understand some of the stats you referenced (well done though), but the Top 40 game detail is pretty simple to follow. I’m basically MJ is the 🐐, and probably don’t even fully comprehend what I was watching in real time! I’ve gradually come around to finding myself struggling to take MJ over LeBron IF I was starting a team tomorrow. However, LeBron couldn’t run Bron Ball on my team!!!
@amaddenmind45972 жыл бұрын
Exactly there is nothing to support the argument that lebron James is even close to Jordan analytics eye test nothing
@sean248332 жыл бұрын
I find it weird for a player who plays a team sport can say out loud he's the best ever. So if kyrie doesn't hit the shot to actually win the game does he not think he's the best ever? If you're tiger woods serena Williams floyd mayweather and they say they're the best I get that cause that's an individual sport but for a player to say he's best when he needs his teammates to their job I just it weird.
@darnellwilliams87832 жыл бұрын
Kyrie saved Lebron hitting that shot lebron has low self esteem that block was goalt
@mauricewilliams34782 жыл бұрын
Being honest here all I remember with Lebron rings is Kyrie and Ray Allen shot 🤷♂️Both of them save him from being 2 -8 in the finals
@jbestderulo452 жыл бұрын
@@darnellwilliams8783 🤣🤣🤣
@Iniquityslasher2 жыл бұрын
Ok sheep
@edwardjallah80792 жыл бұрын
@@darnellwilliams8783 Ray Allen corner 3
@alxfonso49242 жыл бұрын
there are too many coincidences surrounding Lebrons legacy. Cleveland getting 3 #1 picks in 4 years so the team could trade away assets for another Superteam. The league awarding Draymond a technical foul after the game 4 Finals (he didnt get a tech during the game) . New Orleans getting #1 draft pick so they would have a reason/incentive to trade AD to the Lakers. Lebron is great, but the league has had a hand in his legacy no doubt.
@stopcampin40972 жыл бұрын
…..dumbest thing I’ve seen 😂
@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju2 жыл бұрын
Where are all of the current players wearing #23 due to LeBron??? Kyrie Irving, Kawhi Leonard, Cam Thomas, Jason Tatum, and SEVERAL others said Kobe was their guy
@DemonKing-oi4jd2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@twodeepupyours5082 жыл бұрын
And another thing☝ Lebron doesn't say that CAVS team is the greatest team of all time for winning that 1 series☝, He says that made HIM the greatest of all time! SMH🤢
@MosheXX2 жыл бұрын
Never thought of it like that. That’s interesting.
@kevinmoton73262 жыл бұрын
To be for real LeGoat is maybe fourth behind MJ Kobe and Wilt and that's being generous
@zaayshiesty73502 жыл бұрын
Truth
@beanstocks57822 жыл бұрын
Stop it 🤡
@PlanetBu2 жыл бұрын
I got Kobe #2
@iuhgfmnbert17442 жыл бұрын
MJ Kareem Kobe and Magic.
@BigCRichy2 жыл бұрын
To me if your the goat. You ain’t gotta say it. People just know. 🤷🏻♂️ you don’t see Jordan say anything ever.
@sidneyhill70642 жыл бұрын
Bron is a great but that wine got him in his feelings that's why he said that
@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju2 жыл бұрын
Shannon Sharpe and Nick Wright push the "GOAT James" narrative daily. I suspect they are on LeBron's PR payroll
@bryansilva63062 жыл бұрын
Pretty much everybody at fox sports dunked on lebron today lmao
@julespaul26602 жыл бұрын
Rob had a really good take that was objective, real talk.. Usually he is over the top with this topic but he was fairly objective this time around.
@nwo3492 жыл бұрын
First lol
@jdocean12 жыл бұрын
Old enough to have seen both play. Jordan is the goat.
@blackphillip5642 жыл бұрын
The Cavs were the favorite to win the ring in 2016 so STOP IT LeBron. Golden State before KD was a paper tiger. OKC almost beat them.
@slobbynick2 жыл бұрын
No they didn't coming from not a LeBron guy
@tCruzin4Lyfe2 жыл бұрын
Why does coming back from being down squeal GOAT? It’s a great accomplishment but never making it to a game 7 in the finals is a lot more impressive .
@CommonNotCommon24-72 жыл бұрын
All these top75 list all have 1 thing in common at the #1 spot. If you haven't seen every list just take a guess like your life on the line at whose #1 on every list. MJ (Jordan)
@rreed3362 жыл бұрын
Who else is suppose to think you're the best if you don't think you're the best. I have no issue with anyone believing they're the best at their craft. LeBron and MJ are great in their own right. And i watched MJ play and watching LeBron. Both phenomenal basketball players.
@divineelivation91182 жыл бұрын
Stop sympathizing…. You have eyeballs, you know damn well Michael Jordan is the greatest ever. We have to stop trying to give a 🏅 to everybody for the sake of happiness, it’s really developing bad losers. If the whole world is calling you 2nd place 🥈 on Mt. Rushmore… I don’t see why we have to pamper. That’s still puts him in front of like 500,000 players 🤷🏽♂️🥂…. Just tell him congratulations on not being the goat… because it means you’re still supreme!!🎉🎉🤷🏽♂️, And he’s actually 3rd, Kobe is 2nd
@daweeza422 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate LeBron as a human and definitely appreciate his game. He’s undeniably great!! However I don’t like why he feels he has to advertise himself has the greatest ever. I always appreciated MJ’s answer when asked this question. Mike would basically say that’s an unfair question and he never faced Jerry West, Oscar, Wilt, etc. It’s so obvious greatness is in ever era. So for Bron to actually publicly say he’s better than Kareem, Kobe, MJ, Mr. Russel is pretty disrespectful. I don’t feel he his a disrespectful person or trying to put other legends down, but he doesn’t realise that’s exactly what he’s doing. He is actually giving more fuel to those that feel MJ is GOAT. He his highlighting how humble Mike is.
@baymaii2372 жыл бұрын
Exactly! That’s why MJ came back at him a few years ago in that ceremony saying he respects the greats before him. Lefraud is so insecure he has to proclaim himself certain things thinking ppl are gonna change their mind. No one with eyes and a brain think he’s close to MJ. he’s not even close to kobe
@markthenextlevel2 жыл бұрын
Lebron personally hand picks his teammates and still gets bodied in the finals.
@davidcici11Evolution2 жыл бұрын
My argument is Jordan didn't play in an Era where he was facing the San Antonio Spurs or the Golden State Warriors the teams out West were not nowhere near that caliber and the teams out East where offensively challenged. And I am not counting the Detriot Pistons, Celtics and Showtime Lakers (Kareem) he never got passed those teams.
@thisiseliasm46452 жыл бұрын
The spurs were a great team but most of Jordan’s west opponents would beat them. The Warriors became super when they got Kevin Durant and LeBron only won 1 game after they acquired Durant. Yes Jordan didn’t get pass the 80s teams because he wasn’t in his prime and the Bulls were getting better. LeBron wasn’t getting past the Celtics till he got with Wade and Bosh in 2011. LeBron also beat the pistons when they lost Ben Wallace and they were old.
@HT-sm9dm2 жыл бұрын
Every team was offensively challenged back then compared to today. You couldn’t travel and carry the ball like you can now. They could also play defense with some contact. The game was very different. They wouldn’t have Nikola Jokic winning the MVP in that era. Shaq in his prime didn’t win an MVP award in 8 seasons in the 1990s.
@jtremaine232 жыл бұрын
@@thisiseliasm4645 Yep...ironically, LeBron didn't win until the same franchises---Pistons (Wallace), Celtics (Big 3) & Lakers (Kobe) got old, injured or left. And even with that, he STILL didn't win all 4 with the Heat.
@jtremaine232 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, Divac actually played better and had better stats in the 1991 Finals than Kareem did in the 1988 and 1989 Finals. Also, correction to your post: MJ swept the Pistons in 1991.
@ChrisLML122 жыл бұрын
LBJ sounds more like a narcissists then the greatest player of all time, if you have to self anoint yourself as the greatest, then you are NOT the greatest MJ = 🐐
@thaaking112 жыл бұрын
This is becoming my favourite sports segment. These guys are awesome
@loopnuncio11952 жыл бұрын
Kareem is the all time leading scorer and we don't consider him the best
@arizonaFIREent2 жыл бұрын
Stupid people and casual fans don't
@chocolatechipslime2 жыл бұрын
I use to put Bron up there in the top 3 but he’s falling down on my list because of his play these last few years, I feel like the stuff he does is not what a top player of all time would do. The constant complaining to refs about calls, the flopping, the trading players trying to instantly be a winning team, the complaint to the GM’s, jumping from team to team, the lack of defense and then he gets on to his teammates for not playing defense, never taking responsibility for anything but winning. He dosent have the heart of a champion!
@jordanjenkins16712 жыл бұрын
Agreed these last few seasons are making me consider him lower than top 2 all-time. Still has to be top 5 though I think.
@kuljitt52542 жыл бұрын
Agreed!! I had him at 2..but now I put kobe over him aswell!! Bron is 3rd in my eyes
@dta13292 жыл бұрын
Finally someone that makes sense
@ndojimmy2 жыл бұрын
Good thing nobody cares about your opinions 😂😂 how is 30 PPG at 37 years old a bad thing?
@vincegonzalez68042 жыл бұрын
@@kuljitt5254 I know everyone is entitled to their own rankings but someone showing you “heart” shouldn’t be a factor. Who cares? It’s all about skill and accomplishments. Passion should be the last thing on the list since there’s no formula to calculate it
@wtg2424242 жыл бұрын
When you're good at something you tell other people. When you're great (in this case the greatest), they tell you. If Lebron was the GOAT, he wouldn't need to do that. It's the reason you see MJ or Brady going around saying that kind of stuff.
@HT-sm9dm2 жыл бұрын
@@BrandonClark-StocksPassports lol no. This is a generational thing. Most ppl born after about 1985 are the literal definition of the word “douchebag”. That’s who it was created for. I seen clowns today brag about how many points they scored at the f*kn YMCA. WITH A STRAIGHT FACE. It’s definitely a generational thing lol.
@clintonwashington32462 жыл бұрын
He's played longer, got an early head start out of high school, has had more stacked teams and more help than any other star in NBA history and Jordan still has more titles and accomplishments than LeBron. FACTS!
@ephraimclark56582 жыл бұрын
It’s not Lebron place to say he’s the greatest but it’s your place to say he isn’t? Ali was wrong for saying he’s the greatest? Why should a man ever care what another man thinks about him? It’s about what you think of yourself.
@adriankendrick42812 жыл бұрын
If you are secure you don't need to tell people how great you are. Your play speaks for itself.