Lectric XPedition Takes on Eldred St: The 3rd Steepest Street in America! Can it climb a 33% hill?!?

[@HackHunter1835]

Unlock it and ride that hill again. 33% is insane. Well done.

[@martinrosales4913]

what is unlocking sorry for the dumb question?😅

[@HackHunter1835]

@@martinrosales4913 "Unlock it" means increasing the bikes max speed in the settings, of the display. Good aye mate.

[@troyke]

This is the video that convinced me that the Xpedition is my dream E-bike!

[@DeanSafe]

This electric bike sets a new standard by which all other cargo and delivery e-bikes will be measured. I feel sorry for the competition. BTW, Great Video!

[@EbikeProducts]

Thanks! We gotta go back one day when time permits.

[@JmieYoutube]

That was an impressive hill climb test! Good job dude!

[@EbikeProducts]

Thanks! Definitely gotta go back and do a throttle only test now that I unlocked the XPedition to be a class 3.

[@glong2720]

This company is THE BEST company ever. We own 2 of their units, 1 - 3.0 and the other a trike and we really enjoy them. Lectric has been nothing short of OUTSTANDING when it comes to their employees and service staff they cannot be beaten. Never met the owners, but if they are anything like their employyes they must be as awesome. Their is a saying in business, "Great Employees are usually a direct reflection of great Leaders." I truly believe this about this company because I have had ZERO "0" problems with any of them. They are professional, courteous, helpful and go out of their way to verbally administer safety. What more could you ask? Keep up the great work Lectric.

[@ManxoChu]

I've ordered my XPedition dual battery version yesterday. Looking forward to transfering my 2.0 baskets to it. I also ordered the Plus1 seat frame. With all the hills where I live, this'll be great.

[@guillermoortiz1492]

I ordered it exactly the same, my son out grew the weehoo , so this is better to haul him around in

[@EbikeProducts]

You’re going to love it! Congratulations!

[@EbikeProducts]

@@guillermoortiz1492 Steve’s kids outgrew their 2 seater kid carrier they would ride in as he towed them along. They loved the orbiter so much more and the Plus1 seat fits adults. You’re kid (and you too) will love it! Congratulations!

[@guillermoortiz1492]

@@EbikeProducts my son being 8 , will that be too big for my son? We just needed a one seater. We typically ride for 2 hours and figure the orbitor with no back support will be unfortunately for that long, thinking i made the wrong choice? 8(

[@EbikeProducts]

@@guillermoortiz1492 you should call Lectric and ask them that question about the plus1 seat. That one should be good for your son and I think he’ll love it. The orbiter could also work well for him too. There is a KZbinr ebike escape that had his kids in a different kind of kids seat in his XPedition video you might want to check out. The XPedition is so versatile and I’m sure you be able to find a safe comfy seat for him to ride on.

[@jeffreyduff4269]

Aside from congratulating Lectric Bike Company, you should congratulate the people who actually live on Eldred Street! Can you imaging going up and down that hill every day?!

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

Imagine 84 yr old granny testing her new electric trike? 😂

[@garyjohnson4575]

...in snow!?

[@garyjohnson4575]

Raise the seat, you're not using a full stroke, knees high will keep you from breathing properly.

[@garyjohnson4575]

​@@kevinnashskitchen3517...while passing you, stuck in traffic!?

[@TimsElectric]

Awesome Challenge! Well done Chris :) Well done showing the steepness of the hill...super hard to show steep hills on my camera. :)

[@EbikeProducts]

Thanks! I guess one of the things Insta360 claims makes their cameras ’special’ vs the gopro is the ability to show hill and slope angles better. I was pleasantly shocked when I began editing how well it truly showed the slope of the hill. That day we had 3 Insta360 cameras with us and it was a lot of fun. When time permits, I’m going back again and getting cameras put in strategic angles to get a good video made of the bike unlocked on throttle only doing the climb. I may even ask John (if he’s willing) to ride on the one-seater rack attachment with me to carry a total load of 375 pounds.

[@TimsElectric]

@@EbikeProducts that would be a hoot :)

[@chriscardenas5398]

That hill was crazy ,,,, impressive

[@EbikeProducts]

I definitely need to take some time to take other ebikes there to test!

[@michaelegeland7271]

I bought one of these yesterday using your link. That hill climb helped me make up my mind. Thanks!

[@bubblemagic8664]

def would be sick to see how it would do the that big hill on throttle-only, unlocked. ....place your bets lol

[@EbikeProducts]

With me by myself, it should do it without any problem. Next time we go back, I’m going to ask John (my camera guy) to sit on the back and see if it can pull 375 up the hill. I actually have my doubts on that but Lectric’s engineers say it can most likely do it.

[@dougblalock5175]

I have two Rad bikes, don’t believe they would do it. Would be nice to see what it would do under more load. Think I am going to order one.

[@EbikeProducts]

I will definitely go back when I have a free day and do a throttle only test with some kind of load on it (like another adult) now that I unlocked it to be a class 3 bike. Rads are great bikes, but I wouldn’t try them on this hill. I’ve reviewed dozens of e-bikes and I think I may have only ridden 1 other ebike that could make it but it was a 1500w nominal motor so not technically street legal in most of the US. Even my expensive 750w high performance e-bikes would probably burn out the motor controller trying this incline.

[@DeanSafe]

You could always bungee them onto the back of this Bike,😆

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

Now we might see 500 E-bikes testing their power on that hill.. Might be fun for the neighborhood watching crashes and such.😂

[@EbikeProducts]

The people we met in that neighborhood are so friendly and personable. We talked to a few doing morning walks and even a person who lives on the middle of the hill. Everyone is really nice. I just hope people who visit that hill are respectful. We made sure to be as quiet as possible and not get in anyone’s way. I also planned it so we weren’t there too early in the morning to be double sure we weren’t a bother. It’s a great thing that the e-bikes as so quiet.

[@Lucifer2066]

IDK, it looked like quite a struggle getting up that hill to me. If you can do it on throttle alone and go at least 10mph all the way up then I'd be impressed. I doubt this e-bike can do that. In Seattle, WA there are hills everywhere, and I think you'd need a lot more power than 750w to get around here. Maybe if they put another 750w motor on the front.

[@EbikeProducts]

It definitely won't hold 10mph on throttle only on that hill as I was down to about 5-7 when I was near the top helping it already. A second motor added to the front would be awesome!

[@jamesbrown5262]

Yeah Im about to get this bike, I dont have any hills like that but I am close to 400lbs so I hope it can help me get up them

[@EbikeProducts]

Honestly, you should have not problem getting around with it. My friend rides with both his kids on the back and takes them to and from school with hills and he's a pretty heavy guy.

[@chow-chihuang4903]

I agree with the PWR mode of cadence sensor power management. I’d rather choose the amount of effort the motor gives me than who knows what power to accelerate to a certain speed. More natural feeling and easier to maintain control of the bike. I don’t like how the cadence sensor on my Espin Nesta rushes to a certain speed then drops the motor assist once I reach it. Turns out my 5 year old Mate. ebike must use a similar power scheme because its motor doesn’t stop helping once a certain speed is reached if I don’t keep upping the PAS level as I accelerate. However, for most riding, I still prefer a torque sensor. But this bike will be better, with its PWR cadence system, for hauling or towing heavy cargo.

[@m9078jk3]

It would be scary to ride down that hill

[@williamfarmer3841]

It's got great braking ability.

[@lyltlylt]

great bike but will buy it when they upgrade the derailer.. thanks

[@williamfarmer3841]

The hill out of Bid Sur, CA. is gruesome when i went up it on my 12 speed bicycle. Long and hard. Got my Xpedition a week or two ago.

[@JuCarlos-ex8ip]

Amazing how the ebike was able to make it through that steep hill

[@colinwatkins2950]

boy,you'd have to be extra careful with kids on the back.very impressive ebike with 2 batteries good video mate.

[@htainlindwa7603]

I am getting one! Thanx fallas!

[@jamesrobinson4769]

That is a cool electric bike. I really need that bike. I have a rad wagon cargo bike.

[@fazapops]

Thank you for your review.

[@williamfarmer3841]

I like the fact you dont have to hold the throttle down once you peddle.

[@stanleythomas8457]

how were the new brakes on the way down? i worry about the rear wheel bearings my trike gets shipped in May , will it do it?

[@EbikeProducts]

Brakes were excellent. My camera guy John even used it as a stabilizer going back down the hill after filming. If Lectric sends me a Trike to review, I’ll definitely take it to Eldred St for a test climb.

[@williamfarmer3841]

Parral drive in Sherman oaks was the shortest but steepest hill i know.

[@dustinfromabove]

Been looking for pannier bags for the XPedition but its rear frame seems to be abnormally wide and thick for hangover or clip-on bags, so I was curious if you could test/recommend any rear bags for it, like the Rock Bros bag you reviewed a couple of years ago.

[@williamfarmer3841]

You should open it where it tells you to open it. Much easier.

[@MichaelTitera]

Excited! What vehicle hitch bike carrier do you recommend for the XPedition?

[@mshamp789]

Enjoy your reviews! Any chance Lectric will add the electric assist PWR to their other bikes?

[@EbikeProducts]

With how well this new PWR works, I’ll going to bet it will be on every new bike of theirs moving forward. It simply makes their ebikes better than the competitors in efficiency and power and probably doesn’t cost them much more than their old ones.

[@daviddaughenbaugh5691]

Great product, may want to try the hill located on Main Street in Mankato Minnesota?

[@tiger7777]

That is deceiving people to say that bike will go 150 miles on full throttle. You know better than to give people that false advertisement. It might be safe to say 50 miles full throttle. Anything more than that is by pedal assist. That seat is built for durability and longevity. Was the 1 guy a 100lb jockey?

[@seragram]

Can it go on a citi bus rack?

[@ward3955]

Will this fit on the front of bus on bike rack

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

Good stuff in the video.. I scrolled through all your videos and notice Ariel Rider is not very well represented. A hill test of the Kepler would be nice. It's a well priced average specification Ebike. I doubt Ariel Rider is going to hand one out to a bunch of people. I think that is why we see very few reviews compared to Magicycle and Lectric.

[@EbikeProducts]

There was a time Ariel Rider used to send out a bunch of bikes for reviews. I was never sent one and I wrote to them asking if they would consider sending me one for review as some viewers really wanted me to do some. They have really great bike for amazing prices, but they must be doing fine without KZbin reviews. I agree, a hill test with the Kepler would be awesome. Maybe one day they’ll consider my channel.

[@williamfarmer3841]

In PAS 1 you may reach 150 miles with two batteries.

[@blam7]

You think the XP 3.0 can do that hill? I wish I can try that hill with my XP 3.0 to see if it can do it. That’s will be great if you can do that test😄

[@terrynelson2385]

Does it matter which battery slot is used if you only use one of the two batteries? Can a 11-34 tooth freewheel be put on from Lectric?

[@EbikeProducts]

Great questions! I need to test the battery slots. I didn’t try it with just one. I’m sorry, but I also don’t know if they’ll change the freewheel either. I would email them about that. I visited their corporate office and they have a team of amazing technicians that may offer that service. The power on this ebike may not need a 34 tooth low gear though. It seriously can pull almost anything and 34t may leave you air peddling.

[@daninraleigh]

"PROBABLY" "... doth butter no parsnips" I'm interested in one of these, and I don't really care about climbing Eldred Street, but by not doing it for a non-live video, you are basically telling me that it won't climb that hill on power alone. I, the viewer, don't know anything about those technical details you went on about. The power of the video is the thing that would make someone a believer.

[@jeffreyduff4269]

Does it have "walk mode"? Does it have cruise control?

[@wildbill23c]

I would hope that it would have both considering its price range. My $800 no-name brand E-Bike has a walk mode and cruise control. So I'd hope a $1500+ Ebike would.

[@rolandgadue4351]

Question, I have been hearing the extra battery on the seat post on the XPremium is compatible to the Xpedition, is this true?

[@EbikeProducts]

I heard that too! I just checked the website and yes, the battery is compatible with the XPremium, XPedition, and the Trike too!

[@rolandgadue4351]

@@EbikeProducts Cool because I ordered just the one with the single battery, I will use my spare battery on the new bike

[@jacobperez5977]

Do u know how someone can become an Ebike technician? I found some online schools but don’t know how legit they are.

[@patlsmith404]

Great review, though!🚲🌟

[@patlsmith404]

Definitely would need off road tires. For the beach and trail riding. So what's answer on that?

[@patlsmith404]

Definitely would need off road tires. For the beach and trail riding. So what's answer on that?

[@patlsmith404]

Definitely would need off road tires. For the beach and trail riding. So what's answer on that?

[@patlsmith404]

Your definitely a "YES MAN"! Afraid to criticize any part of bike so not sure how much is true.

[@tigerclad]

Do you the lectric xp 3 could make it up that hill? \\\\\\\\

[@EbikeProducts]

Mmm. I don’t think it can. I have one we can try, but I’m honestly a little afraid of ruining a good ebike trying. It’s only a 500watt motor and doesn’t have this newer controller.

[@juanzo74latincrypto52]

1000 watt option should be offered.

[@benwong8672]

Hi, great review. Can you tell me if the dual battery system will allow the simultaneous charging of both batteries with the supplied charger or would you need to separately charge the second battery. I asked Lectric and apparently, they didn't have a test/demo model with which they could verify for me. Thanks.

[@wildbill23c]

You need a charger for each battery as per Lectric. Which, given its a dual battery bike, you'd think they'd provide a dual output charger.

[@benwong8672]

@@wildbill23c Thanks for the info. I think I might try a variation of your idea of a dual output charger with a one into two adapter cable. While it will take twice as long to charge from a given state, at least I won't have to remember to switch the charger to the second battery in the middle of the night. Thanks again.

[@DigitalJedi]

According to the manufacturer, you need to charge each battery by itself. I would bite the bullet and buy a second charger.

[@EbikeProducts]

I agee with @Digital_Jedi. It’s not too much for a second charger and I’d recommend buying it at the same time you buy the ebike to see if you save on shipping since they can put it in the box with the bike.

[@andreahutchins7129]

Would this be suitable on unpaved/crushed stone bike trails?

[@EbikeProducts]

We’ve taken it on a lot of unpaved dirt trails with some loose gravel, but I’m not sure about crushed stone. If it’s pretty solid like a dirt road, you should be fine. It has 3” wide tires so it’s not as stable as 4” fat tires would be, but they’re still really good. Sorry I can’t be more precise with my answer, but I’m just not sure exactly how it would do.

[@vickytoshach2627]

I wonder if it would do that with someone at about 290lbs?

[@kodyshaw6991]

Just the person with no cargo, it could probably manage it. With cargo? That might be a challenge.

[@WEdway33]

You should test the Ariel Rider Grizzly on this street..

[@noambitton2307]

How much do you weigh? That’s a huge factor.

[@EbikeProducts]

I’m 170lbs. That definitely makes a difference. We really want to go back one day and do more filming with different weight riders or even 2 riders at the same time on it.

[@noambitton2307]

@@EbikeProducts yeah!!! Because I weigh about 280 pounds and I wouldn’t get up that hill. I will say this, though the lectric xp 3.0 even with a 500 W motor is still very powerful even with my heavy self on it but it only has 55 Nm of torque the XPedition has 85 Nm of torque I live in Washington state I have a lot of steep hills. It’s still a beast mode of a bike, but for better reference, please make more videos with a heavier person on it!!

[@umaxen0048]

33 degrees? I wouldn't attempt that with my Accord. I have a public road where I live that's 25 degrees. (I measured it) I bypass it EVERY time. If your engine failed on my 25 degree incline? All you could do is apply emergency and foot break and do your best not to roll and crash...

[@cherylseefeldt1952]

What’s the distance between the tires from the bottom of the tires????Need to know if it will fit my Thule bike rack.

[@JmieYoutube]

48”

[@normanwray1341]

Hello dear friend.maybe it want a piston 😅😊

[@vlady8me]

I am rapidly losing the last of my hair trying to decide between this and the Ocelot Pro. I blame YOU. FFS. Any help, especially from people with experience with either of these bikes, would be appreciated.

[@EbikeProducts]

Oh man. I totally feel you. If you can use a longer ebike and will carry 1 or 2 kids at once, the XPedition can do it better than the Ocelot due to the orbiter and one seat accessory. If you like full 4” fat tires and speeds a little over 27mph, the ocelot goes a tad bit faster (at least the one I tested) The new tech in the XPedition’s cadence sensor is kind of amazing and almost runs like a modified torque sensor. Not sure if that helps. Both or top bikes and we use them a ton. The Ocelot is our main camera bike due to the speed and ease of riding. The XPedition is the kid mover and even takes my friend’s kid to school and picks her up while also bringing along a younger sibling for the rides.

[@vlady8me]

@@EbikeProducts Thank you so much for the thoughtful response. I forgot to ask, Please tell US, How did the Ocelot Pro do on Eldred St?

[@EbikeProducts]

@@vlady8me I haven’t had a chance to visit Eldred St after the XPedition was recorded. I would be a little hesitant to take the Ocelot up that hill and burn out the motor due to the fact that the XPedition was built specifically for challenges that the Ocelot wasn’t. The XPediton is not supposed burn out. The Lectric CEO is very eager to see if anyone can find a hill it can’t climb. I asked him about going up Eldred St with another rider on the bike with me and he and his technicians said it should make it

[@rasheedgooden4415]

Can the Xp premium do the same or is this better?

[@EbikeProducts]

Sorry. I honestly really don’t know. I’ve never ridden an XPremium and I am not sure if they had the new speed controller and motor tuned similarly. With a torque sensor, I’m thinking it has a different tuning and might not but that’s a good question to ask their support team. Those guys really know their product and would give you a more accurate assessment than my guesses.

[@rasheedgooden4415]

@@EbikeProducts well said thank you

[@danvigilant4885]

Hey brother how much you weigh?

[@EbikeProducts]

I’m 170 lbs

[@danvigilant4885]

@@EbikeProducts helps me gauge how bad my fatass is gonna struggle up a hill like this…..was 330 when I started my diet now I’m 246….so pretty much still got work to do….hopefully by black Friday I’ll be where I need to be and have this ordered by then! Thanks for the insight!

[@Benjamin-rm2nt]

Bike safety tip. You gotta stand when going uphill 😅

[@robertallen9849]

Now do it on just throttle.

[@EbikeProducts]

I definitely need to go back and do it again with throttle only to see if it will make it. It was unconscious for me to start to pedal at the end due to fear of falling over at such slow speeds near 4mph and didn't even think to try to let it keep going. At that steep angle, losing balance with a bike can easily make you fall over. If I get a chance to go back with it, I'll force myself to keep throttle only for sure.

[@nyce545]

Bring it to Easton pa I bet it won't make it

[@wildbill23c]

Won't do it if it were loaded to its max capacity.

[@thehomelessone96]

I own the same bike it looks like you’re peddling too hard you should not have to pedal that bike as hard as you are you barely pedal and the motor kicks in

[@EbikeProducts]

Yeah. I really should have done it again without peddling at all. I was losing balance when it got slow due to the angle and was afraid of falling so it was a fear reaction to start peddling to keep from falling. I’ll definitely have to go back again and do a throttle only attempt.

[@AshtonGreen-zw5vr]

Something they are hiding

[@EbikeProducts]

what do you think that might be?

[@sundaydiver]

"They had one guy go full throttle for 150 miles." 11:40. Uhh... I HIGHLY doubt that claim is accurate. According to several real-world tests I have watched here on KZbin, the actual mileage of this bike is half - at best - under real-world circumstances (pedal assist higher than 1, somewhat varied terrain, light cargo).

[@patlsmith404]

So electric make one 1000 watts for us Senior Citizens and ill test it out. If you had alk the accessories on it, would have NEVER made. I challenge that to Lectric. No one is going to be riding a cargo bike without some cargo baskets, etc on it.🚲💥🚲😑

[@patlsmith404]

If so I'm sold!

[@patlsmith404]

If so I'm sold!

[@patlsmith404]

If so I'm sold!

[@patlsmith404]

If so I'm sold!

[@patlsmith404]

If so I'm sold!

[@Dirty-D]

That motor is annoying sounding and too loud. Also the brakes squeal for a brand new bike.

[@orlandocedeno16]

But where's the cargo? Try it with hauling cargo.

[@EbikeProducts]

We’re going back to Eldred st. one day and a 200lb rider is going to jump on the back and we’re going to do a throttle only test. Lectric’s engineers say it should be able to make it. We shall see… even I have my doubts as that will be 375lbs total payload!

[@williamfarmer3841]

Only a wus would complain about the seat.

[@donwilson350]

Man that's just unbelievable how ugly that bike is all that on the back looks like it's skeletonized out I don't like the looks of it at all

[@EbikeProducts]

😂 that’s so funny! I actually love the look. I know others who agree with you and some who say they love it like me. I’m not sure why I like it so much except that when you see it up close, for me it just gets more awesome looking. Haha. Could be that I just like the lectric design style and it just seems very familiar.

[@mattsweet653]

I agree. I think this bike looks really good!! I don’t know why someone would not like the look?

[@maggiehill789]

​@@mattsweet653 has to be durable and strong

[@adayinthelife9655]

Not even close to being impressive.

[@EbikeProducts]

I plan to go back and do a full throttle only with an extra 200 pound guy on the back making the payload 375 total pounds. I was impressed with what I did in this video, but hopefully it can impress you when I go back one day. Lectric’s team says they think it can make it, I personally have my doubts, but we’ll see.

[@EuropaWill]

There is no way that bike (or any 1300w peak with 85nm torque ebike for that matter) is going up that 33% grade hill with an extra 200 lbs on the back rack on throttle alone. Can we come back to reality please? If you felt like it was about to pop a wheelie while going up that 33% grade with you alone, just wait till you have a weight like that hanging off the back. Though seeing you huff it up that hill in 20amp mode was impressive. Also, the ridiculous claim you can go full throttle and travel 150 miles at full throttle is just fluff. Their site says in PAS 1 on a flat road with two batteries will go 150 miles.

[@stewartfollick9435]

This is a bullshit test. Put a larger person on it and put on some cargo, then do the hill test…

[@EbikeProducts]

That’s the plan. We really want to try 2 of us on it to bring it up to about 370lbs. We just need to find the time and figure out a way to make sure we don’t fall off. The grade of the hill is so steep the bike would flip back if someone is on the back and they also need to be able to hold on at the angle we would be at when going up. As the 2nd or 3rd steepest hill in the US, it’s unlikely anyone needs to worry about anything less. This ebike truly is amazing for only a 750watt ebike. My friend who is over 200lbs takes his 2 kids to elementary school (at the same time) on it every morning and picks them up in a very hilly neighborhood. It definitely outperforms many (maybe every) ebikes similar in design, specs, and price. I’m not sure it will do that hill with 2 people, but it would definitely be a “real” cool test!