Lecture: 'The UK in a China centric World'

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Martin Jacques

Martin Jacques

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@wahyeung9785
@wahyeung9785 8 жыл бұрын
As a Chinese raised in Hong Kong, finished university there and immigrated to Canada and lived here for 25 years, I was fascinated by your deep understanding of China and its history and culture. I don't have any disagreement to your lecture but I would like to mention two more points for the readers' reference. Firstly, Chinese had come over the dark period since the fall of Qing Dynasty which happened a little more than a hundred years ago so we are very eager to learn and work hard to become strong again. This spirit has been passed from our old generation. Secondly, working hard to get a better living for the family including grand parents and young generation is genetically built into the blood of every Chinese. That's why we see Mainland Chinese work overtime frequently partly because they are requested by the enterprises and partly because Chinese are more willing to work more to get better earnings and results. I think these two characteristics of the Chinese people are very fundamental factors to make the whole nation catching up the West rapidly.
@meoluo1303
@meoluo1303 8 жыл бұрын
谢谢!我非常赞同支持你,那种血液里的魂,仍然在我们新一代人中继续流传。
@georgechang1475
@georgechang1475 8 жыл бұрын
wah yeung good pointing out
@Jonwucf
@Jonwucf 8 жыл бұрын
努力!中華崛起!
@johnmartin6579
@johnmartin6579 8 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Wu if China tries to overpower Britain we will invade you, you was created for cheap Labour and nothing else
@ddtking7630
@ddtking7630 8 жыл бұрын
John John Jonathan Wood used account of John John so I guess his real name is more likely to be Jonathan Jones and he is resentful of having to work all day flipping meat patties instead of some Asian dude
@jackieqqk
@jackieqqk 8 жыл бұрын
I just noticed that it is the professor yourself who uploaded this lecture video. I just want to say thank you! Your lecture helped me to understand more about my country. Especially, your western style explain is valuable when I try to explain China to westerners. There are indeed many many problems in China. However, it is a big change period for the world. In my view, the whole world is developing in a healthy way. Largely because there is no massive war, or big conflict in the world. Each country can chose its own way. And westerners are giving a nice example.
@louisec.5608
@louisec.5608 7 жыл бұрын
It's extremely difficult for a western scholar to reach this level of understanding of Chinese culture and civilisation. He has already adopted a holistic thinking pattern that Chinese people use and has an extraordinarily rich knowledge on Chinese history and mentality. For this alone, he deserves a whole lot of credit.
@waynet8953
@waynet8953 7 жыл бұрын
His wife is asian is part of the answer.
@OlJackBurton
@OlJackBurton 4 жыл бұрын
@@waynet8953 Deceased wife was an Indian living in Malaysia, which is not like the Chinese at all...
@shadzrob1234
@shadzrob1234 4 жыл бұрын
Fabulous speaker. Cuts through the various narratives we often hear about China.
@leonardobautista1619
@leonardobautista1619 4 жыл бұрын
We cannot view every society through the lense of the Greek-Roman and Judeo-Christian traditions. Martin Jacques is spot on with his vision of China.
@u06jo3vmp
@u06jo3vmp 8 жыл бұрын
Also about the Chinese state's competence, it's very simple. It promotes the best people through ratings and exams. Like private companies. That's why they're so competent despite having vast corruptions at the same time. They will get the dirty money, but above that they will get the job done. You don't see any private companies run by democracy, by all the workers voting for the boss, and if there is one, that company is going to fall really fast. Private companies are known to be way more efficient than governments, that's like a common sense in western society, that's where the "state is useless, we should privatize everything" mentality comes from. In the end the big Chinese state and the small western state are based on the same reason: The way of enterprise system (promote the evidently best at doing the job) is better and more efficient than democratic system (promote the most popular).
@tropickman
@tropickman 8 жыл бұрын
Who told you they are more efficient? That is nonsense.
@amyding5282
@amyding5282 8 жыл бұрын
tropickman by simple fact. Just look at China and US in the past 30 years in terms of growth
@samuelledger7402
@samuelledger7402 8 жыл бұрын
U can compare taiwan and china
@Jonwucf
@Jonwucf 8 жыл бұрын
It is almost common sense that private company is much more efficient than Government
@eriche882
@eriche882 8 жыл бұрын
u06jo3vmp through your reply, I wondered that why there is no one cry for democracy in the company.... just wondered.
@davedeng2295
@davedeng2295 4 жыл бұрын
I guess I really didn't know my country as well as I would like to think. Thank you for providing an alternative perspective and allow us to find more appreciation of what's going on in China, what has happened in China, and the future of China.
@inkvong1277
@inkvong1277 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, the minor races in China are offered better welfare than Han including but not limited in education and government support. Han does not have any kind of discriminations on others at all. Thank you so much for your lecture, which helps me better understand the culture differences and the Taiwan issues.
@absolutenice9100
@absolutenice9100 5 жыл бұрын
Yes , agreed . They avail reservations and have local court proceedings in their own language .
@FdikxfkkxZDFEWDCjdjSSa
@FdikxfkkxZDFEWDCjdjSSa 5 жыл бұрын
Those uyghurs and tibets in re-education camp may not agree.Learning their mother tongue is also banned in theior own region.
@CalvinJKu
@CalvinJKu 5 жыл бұрын
What you said about the discrimination is not true. The Han discriminate the Tibetans, the Xinjiang Uyghurs people, and many others like African or SEA immigrants. One problem with the Han Chinese is that they don't even know what discrimination means.
@absolutenice9100
@absolutenice9100 5 жыл бұрын
@@CalvinJKu Tibetians are not separate from Chinese . Tibetians and Chinese or Han are the branches of the same family . The Sino Tibetian family and there you can see the genetic similarities as well , the O 3 marker . Its a different view for Manchus , Hmong Mein and others .
@patagoniachief5973
@patagoniachief5973 5 жыл бұрын
Calvin Ku i say it’s stereotypes which derived from lack of understand
@simonlee8889
@simonlee8889 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Martin for that brief but important mention of the work of Lucian Pye. Brilliant stuff. As is your lecture - but no surprise there
@carlroberts5933
@carlroberts5933 4 жыл бұрын
China. Constitute. Is. The. Way. That. China. Use. For. It's. Development
@ProCelestialEmpire
@ProCelestialEmpire 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for your effort of trying to understand China in depth and to decompose the understanding into multiple components and angles. Usually the understanding of a country or civilization is macro and vague, but you managed to make it tangible and granular to different parts. Maybe some of your understanding and summarization is not 100% accurate or agreed by others, but your work and outcome is very remarkable.
@123静水丨流深
@123静水丨流深 8 жыл бұрын
When it comes to China, especially when being praised, people still tend to first bear with the content, and then question and argue about it. It is benign if intended to figure out and understand China; however, it becomes pointless when people start to argue because they've got pride. People still refuse to listen. It's fine because reality strikes harder when one is more unprepared.
@izumizhang9680
@izumizhang9680 7 жыл бұрын
i've learnt a lot from his lecture even as a Chinese. I'm enlighten by the way he understand the Chinese or eastern culture in a western way. Besides which is right or wrong, to understand each other in your own way is the basis of making your own decisions or choosing the way to react. Though not all the opinions of his is convincing to me like the China will replace US in 20 years in most aspects. China still has a lot to learn and change to compete for the 'center' or one of the 'centers' of the world. But, China is and will be learning and changing.
@luket1085
@luket1085 5 жыл бұрын
And it will be better if the Communist Party went out..
@MartinJacques
@MartinJacques 7 жыл бұрын
I am afraid I am not familiar with this author
@上海自干五-周傲
@上海自干五-周傲 4 жыл бұрын
what?
@chycho
@chycho 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent lecture
@aegeanbo
@aegeanbo 7 жыл бұрын
A note to the camera man, please aim the camera at the screen behind the speaker. The images and the graphs etc are meant for the listeners! Thank you.
@claudexie4190
@claudexie4190 7 жыл бұрын
As a Chinese, I think Martin knows too much, and actually the word "country" in Mandarin are two words "国家" ,国means country, 家means family, thats also a clear explanation why China is a civilization sate not only a nation state. and without 5k years history and cultural consistent, I dont exect any Eastern could understand what's the difference. for decades we were trying to make western and European think China is a terrible country in many ways only for giving us more time to return to where we were before: world's most strong race. Martin knows too much, and that's not a good sign.
@eo7770
@eo7770 7 жыл бұрын
MJ has always have a good words for China.
@AlexanderaPopova
@AlexanderaPopova 7 жыл бұрын
This guy knows China too well, we gotta stop him! :)
@古林嘤
@古林嘤 4 жыл бұрын
明天战恐局报道
@silasyuen2996
@silasyuen2996 7 жыл бұрын
Knowing yourself and know your opponents, and you won't be in peril in a hundred battle. So, how better do you know the Chinese in comparison to Chinese knowing the west? Be reminded that the tuition fee has been very steep. Chinese paid that for 150 years.
@lizpearl8877
@lizpearl8877 5 жыл бұрын
Sun Tzu- The Art of War
@milkmilk27
@milkmilk27 4 жыл бұрын
East-West culture is really interesting, everything is the opposite, like China's tai chi map. It's also difficult to know. In my opinion, the Communist Party is not to produce rich people, but to eradicate poverty, too many rich people are not necessarily a good thing. China's rapid development of science and technology, the future is really difficult to predict, but people-oriented is firm, because this is thousands of years Chinese cultural thinking.
@chrislui571
@chrislui571 7 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with your points of view, especially the role of Chinese government as "guardian of nation".Sadly in general western don't understand or sometimes misunderstand china.
@yangqiu567
@yangqiu567 7 жыл бұрын
B站难民
@风景旧曾谙-x8l
@风景旧曾谙-x8l 7 жыл бұрын
+1
@milkysvart
@milkysvart 7 жыл бұрын
时差党瞬懂
@lianhua1138
@lianhua1138 6 жыл бұрын
B站党路过
@陈静龙-t2k
@陈静龙-t2k 6 жыл бұрын
+1
@贝尔大熊
@贝尔大熊 6 жыл бұрын
B站难民,求问怎么机翻字幕
@bkatee8154
@bkatee8154 7 жыл бұрын
This professor hit the point! So surprised! He dose understand China too well. Not good.
@上海自干五-周傲
@上海自干五-周傲 4 жыл бұрын
ye. I prefer all west China experts are like Jordan Zhang
@ai123pr
@ai123pr 7 жыл бұрын
it should be mentioned that hegemon status is not automatically granted to nations that trade the most or grow the fastest. If that were the case, Japan would have been granted world superpower status by 1970 and Taiwan would have gained superpower status by 1980. Second, to some extent, it was chance that allowed the United States to become a global power after World War II. The rest of the developed world, including Europe and Japan, was in disarray. At the Bretton Woods meeting in 1944, world leaders agreed to anchor their exchange rates in gold, which would then be tied to the U.S. dollar. As a result, the U.S. dollar became the most important currency in the world, and the United States rose to superpower status. Certainly, the United States had been on par with or above Europe in terms of living standards and level of industrialization before World War II, and was therefore seen as an economic equal. It was the restructuring of global currencies at Bretton Woods, however, that boosted the United States to center country status.
@Hplous
@Hplous 6 жыл бұрын
中国人汉文化的本质在于儒家的”格物 致知 正心 诚意 修身 齐家 治国 平天下“。 这也就决定了,以汉民族为主体的中国,本质上与西方最大的区别在于: 中国在与以绝对的文化自信去同化其他文明,这是一个一但转化即存在高度认同的过程。而西方则是殖民,即以文明去转化所谓的不文明。前者是保留了子文化的特殊性,要求子文化认同主文化。自上而下的同化。 后者则是 取代,以主文化取代子文化。 就这点上,文化侵略性,汉文化就没有任何一个文化可以和他抗衡了。
@klarkewang
@klarkewang 7 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily right, but this guy does understand how China rolls.
@MrHailstorm00
@MrHailstorm00 8 жыл бұрын
If u don't mind me asking, Mr Jacques. How popular would you project that your viewpoints are in UK?
@jiajiewang2791
@jiajiewang2791 8 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter .. i am happy that not so many people watching this ... ... You had a very good question . He is a big big liar .. Trust me :)
@七宫尊
@七宫尊 7 жыл бұрын
战忽局 集体扣工资 竟然高出这么大的漏洞
@dkkiller1
@dkkiller1 7 жыл бұрын
翻墙加班,为你点赞
@OtisAdonisChad
@OtisAdonisChad 5 жыл бұрын
@@jiajiewang2791 what is he lying about?
@keffinsg
@keffinsg 6 жыл бұрын
Using the word "race" to describe the Han Chinese is oversimplifying a little. Here's a way to think of the Han identity. China is the size of west and east Europe combined. China is like an EU that is 2000 years old. The different ethnicities have lived together so long, they all now think themselves simply as Han. If the Roman Empire, the contemporaries of the Han dynasty, had lasted till now, the English, French, or Spanish would all think of themselves simply as Roman
@shawnho2607
@shawnho2607 7 жыл бұрын
No matter whether you wish or not, China will rise up and we will achieve a great national rejuvenation. 我们一定要实现唐朝的国力,宋朝的经济。
@billhints7979
@billhints7979 5 жыл бұрын
这种话,还要在这里说吗?遭人恨吗?
@Josdamale
@Josdamale 4 жыл бұрын
57:46 My impression of the Western state is that the barons became more powerful than the monarch as a consequence of Gothic culture (with its tendency to fragment) and its dismemberment and destruction of the Roman empire in the West. The land barons were eventually replaced by the industrial barons, and the fiefs by multinational corporations, but the principle has remained the same into modern history. The private barons of today run the state (behind the scenes) for their own benefit, and blame its head for any of their failures, as they conceal themselves behind the state. Russia followed a more centralised approach, and still has, and likewise China is more centralised. The blight of the West is the oligarchs who control the financial system, and all the industries, and all the levers of government, leaving the head of government as virtually a figurehead, and the democratic state as a sham.
@yewlee1234
@yewlee1234 4 жыл бұрын
I am not able to write/read(CHINESE) being SFI education BUT I DO respect China advancement! Ya I am OPEN to REALITY??
@mermaidcomedy4647
@mermaidcomedy4647 4 жыл бұрын
Hope China will rise for a loong time. Chinese history shows china had dark times but she always rose in the end. China is resilient.
@Tagnar
@Tagnar 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting talk, too bad the audio is all over the place. Speech mannerism of the talker of "start a sentence loud, finish it off as a whisper" does not help with this.
@metamoo1028
@metamoo1028 8 жыл бұрын
The rich people think they shouldn't put all eggs in one basket, so they invest around the world. US also have better high education, so many parents invest lots of money on their kids' education in US. There are also lots of rich people try to zero out taxes. The issue of tax shelter is global.
@w87law32
@w87law32 3 жыл бұрын
Competence of Chinese state had been proved to the world by the case of controlling COVID-19 pandemic. With the same variable, with the comparison, it's so clear.
@xw8462
@xw8462 4 жыл бұрын
Why so many Chinese go to west? They are not many if compared with their total population. If you see many maybe your country is too small.
@josephcmc5
@josephcmc5 7 жыл бұрын
wise men listen fools argue
@eugeneong5336
@eugeneong5336 7 жыл бұрын
Martin Jacques - your lectures sound very familiar to me. Did you did also read the book from a chinese author lin yu tang of 1930's
@hotelcampina
@hotelcampina 5 жыл бұрын
Gwyn Williams. Perhaps Chinas´ success in avoiding a financial crisis rests in it´s not allowing private sector control of it´s financial system
@xiaoliu3397
@xiaoliu3397 8 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about the real estate crisis, I think you cannot. Noone can say for sure....
@nunomadeirapereira5371
@nunomadeirapereira5371 4 жыл бұрын
25:05 On Hong Kong ... one country two... ups... there goes the established theory... next... (25:45)
@niravelniflheim1858
@niravelniflheim1858 5 жыл бұрын
It's very funny to compare Chinese-style governance to democratic governance in the face of the current Brexit farce and the Trump/anti-Trump farce in the US. Many people would be happy with simple competence and don't care about politics. Only a good feedback mechanism is necessary.
@ArkDiabLord
@ArkDiabLord 7 жыл бұрын
us dont' have cars, me walk miles for rice! dont believe this grandpapa! 战忽局万岁!
@attlee2010
@attlee2010 5 жыл бұрын
lol
@新年快乐傻逼轮子
@新年快乐傻逼轮子 5 жыл бұрын
谢谢
@AmorFati72
@AmorFati72 6 жыл бұрын
Tibet was first conquest by Yuan Dynasty in about 1270s
@pasisovi
@pasisovi 4 жыл бұрын
West is the one that has a self-centric view, otherwise we wouldn't never keep invading and abusing the East. They came from a brilliant holistic society into this predatorial stage we have imposed on them. Nevertheless, Asia hasn't invaded any country and dont have the belligerence we do.
@ag7075
@ag7075 4 жыл бұрын
I suggest you start reading history and by doing so, you will come to a completely different conclusion, e.g. the first Manchu invasion of Korea occurred in 1627.
@seedayceesay3975
@seedayceesay3975 4 жыл бұрын
Papa, I like ur programme, Thanks?
@msomayya2828
@msomayya2828 3 жыл бұрын
how they pay you cpc
@msomayya2828
@msomayya2828 3 жыл бұрын
how much they pay you
@cathy1574
@cathy1574 3 жыл бұрын
Thinking Chinese as a kind of culture rather than ethnic, the Han Chinese actually are mixture of many ethnics which have ben melt into one pot.
@attlee2010
@attlee2010 5 жыл бұрын
Well, he was dead wrong about Hong Kong
@StevenChai77
@StevenChai77 4 жыл бұрын
The HKs are dead wrong about China inspite of being so near to China.
@ag7075
@ag7075 4 жыл бұрын
@@StevenChai77 No, the HKs know exactly what the CCP is and are willing to stand for freedom.
@geixiong5749
@geixiong5749 5 жыл бұрын
Martin, the question is : are you part of British Empire spy !? The only reason you knew so much about China is to infiltrate her ! After all, you are a Brit. My root is China, my blood line runs deep back into the Emperor Ming. Although, my great grandma parents left China, as far as I remember our spirits always return to China. I like your anology but can you be trust ?!?😇. Not only the French has Legionnaire. We both know what the Westerners did to Asian People. We will not be a second class to no one. The Dragon will not be Tained by the Tyrant of the Whites or by any human power.
@寒冬暖阳抱山河
@寒冬暖阳抱山河 5 жыл бұрын
Easy man!China can only be destroyed by Itself.
@ziyangluo475
@ziyangluo475 8 жыл бұрын
He mentions Sun Yat-Sen university!!!! It shocks me.
@najeeblee2972
@najeeblee2972 7 жыл бұрын
OMG,what is he talking about! I am a Chinese and I just learnd to use an awkward computer yesterday and I have never tasted eggs!We are still struggling in the poverty please don't be cheated!
@__ldnd__
@__ldnd__ 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly, i borrowed the computer just to leave this comment. 战忽局干员辛苦了
@terrillzhu
@terrillzhu 7 жыл бұрын
I am using my expensive wooden computer to up vote this new video. IE is the best! 战忽局干员辛苦了
@盛朋
@盛朋 7 жыл бұрын
你指的是茶叶蛋么。滑稽.jpg
@崔莱
@崔莱 6 жыл бұрын
You guys good, we not afford good egnlish educasion, food is problme. 年底到局里领奖金
@87yingc
@87yingc 5 жыл бұрын
he knows too much ....
@ccchu3954
@ccchu3954 4 жыл бұрын
It is not appropriate to use one's ideological yardstick to assess another. Thanks to Western media, he term, "Chinese Communist Party" conjures vastly different connotations in the West and the East. The fact remains that China has made tremendous economic and social progress over the past four decades is a change that needs to be understood and leveraged for a more progressive world.
@msomayya2828
@msomayya2828 3 жыл бұрын
just emagine
@kgm96
@kgm96 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot wait for your world to come crashing to a grinding halt
@lssoo6185
@lssoo6185 5 жыл бұрын
I UN
@leogao9604
@leogao9604 7 жыл бұрын
嘘......
@邓几句话
@邓几句话 6 жыл бұрын
中文我需要
@msomayya2828
@msomayya2828 3 жыл бұрын
in your dreams fool
@msomayya2828
@msomayya2828 3 жыл бұрын
cartoon
@sevenshape9285
@sevenshape9285 6 жыл бұрын
看不懂。。。
@fruityard08
@fruityard08 7 жыл бұрын
western culture is the best
@bitgamer509
@bitgamer509 7 жыл бұрын
"The rise of China is the most important thing in the world since the British industrial revolution" was said at the very beginning, and I almost stopped watching right there. What a stupid thing to say.
@bkatee8154
@bkatee8154 7 жыл бұрын
well, open your eyes to a professional advice in this video. It is not wise to blind it out
@leishi7461
@leishi7461 7 жыл бұрын
I guess his point is the British industrial revolution part :-)
@artamerican
@artamerican 7 жыл бұрын
Bit Gamer what you tried to argue was probably that there were certainly many other events which are more significant and important than the so called 'rise of china since the british industrial revolution', in my view i would argue that events such as the rise of computer and internet are more significant and crucial than that of the rise of china, agreed ?
@dricard953
@dricard953 5 жыл бұрын
@@artamerican I also don't understand this statement. How is the rise of any one single country more important that a major global technological breakthrough? I would agree that the internet is a comparative event and perhaps AI in the future, but the rise of China?
@badgoodboy9437
@badgoodboy9437 2 жыл бұрын
@@dricard953 Do you really think that the invention of the computer is much more greater than the invention of paper or gunpowder in the development of human history? Global technological breakthroughs have been around throughout human history. People change world,not objects.
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