Why China Cannot Rise Peacefully

October 17, 2012
University of Ottawa
JOHN MEARSHEIMER, University of Chicago.
Presented by the Security Studies Network at CIPS.
John J. Mearsheimer is the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor of Political Science and the co-director of the Program on International Security Policy at the University of Chicago, where he has taught since 1982. He served as an officer in the U.S. military for five years before pursuing graduate studies and receiving his Ph.D. in political science from Cornell University in 1980. Between 1979 and 1999, he was a research fellow at the Brookings Institution, a post-doctoral fellow at Harvard University and was the Whitney H. Shepardson Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. Professor Mearsheimer has written extensively about security issues and international politics more generally. He has published five books: Conventional Deterrence (1983), which won the Edgar S. Furniss, Jr., Book Award; Liddell Hart and the Weight of History (1988); The Tragedy of Great Power Politics (2001), which won the Joseph Lepgold Book Prize and has been translated into eight different languages; The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy (with Stephen M. Walt, 2007), which made the New York Times best seller list and has been translated into twenty-one different languages; and Why Leaders Lie: The Truth about Lying in International Politics (2011), which has been translated into ten different languages. He has also written many articles that have appeared in leading academic journals and popular magazines, as well as a number of op-ed pieces for the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times dealing with topics like Bosnia, nuclear proliferation, American policy towards India, the failure of Arab-Israeli peace efforts, and the invasion of Iraq.
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Le 17 octobre 2012
Université d'Ottawa
JOHN MEARSHEIMER, Université de Chicago.
Présenté par le Réseau en études de sécurité au CÉPI.
John Mearsheimer est le R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor of Political Science et co-directeur du programme sur les politiques de sécurité international à l'Université de Chicago où il enseigne depuis 1982. Il a été officier militaire pendant cinq ans avant d'entreprendre des études supérieures et d'obtenir son Ph.D. en science politique de l'Université Cornell en 1980. Entre 1979 et 1999, il a été chercheur à la Brookings Institution, chercheur post-doctoral à l'Université Harvard et a été le Whitney H. Shepardson Fellow au Council on Foreign Relations. Mearsheimer a écrit abondamment sur les questions de sécurité et de politique internationale de façon générale. Il a publié cinq ouvrages : Conventional Deterrence (1983), qui lui a valu le Edgar S. Furniss Jr. Book Award; Liddell Hart and the Weight of History (1988); The Tragedy of Great Power Politics (2001), qui a remporté le Joseph Lepgold Book Prize et a été traduit en huit langues; The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy (avec Stephen M. Walt, 2007), qui a été sur la liste de best sellers du New York Times et a été traduit en vingt-et-une langues; et Why Leaders Lie: The Truth about Lying in International Politics (2011), traduit en dix langues différentes. Il a aussi écrit de nombreux articles ayant parus dans les principales revues universitaires et magazines populaires, ainsi que plusieurs articles d'opinion pour le New York Times et le Los Angeles Times sur des sujets tels que la Bosnie, la prolifération nucléaire, la politique américaine envers l'Inde, l'échec des efforts de paix israélo-palestiniens et l'invasion de l'Iraq.
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[@rongsongcai5603]

title should be "Why US cant't allow China to rise peacefully"

[@mbahremuk]

"Why the US can't allow China to peacefully claim the Nine-Dash Line"

[@changelieen]

@@mbahremuk why the US force the world to play by his book?

[@tomli9793]

​@@mbahremuk Why does the world pay the price for Wall Street's stock market

[@alexanderantonius1191]

❤

[@johndoe-vc1we]

Everything China is today is due to the US. The thinking was if you help China they will become an ally. That works so long as the CCP is toppled. The US forgot to do that. So an outdated relic known as CCP that should have been disposed of gets a new lease of life. After 2008 the CCP thinks the US is weak and we start to see the end of the peaceful rise which was nonsense, to begin with. This is not new. The Soviets helped China also. Then they realised that Mao was a nutjob and pulled back. We get the Sino-Soviet split Where China not only challenges the Soviets for leadership of the communist world calling them fakers and making additional territorial claims in Russia's far east. This led to skirmishes and a period of high tension which is when we see Mao calling the Americans desperately for help. China under the CCP has been an international joke for a long time now. The good news is there will be no conflict because the Chinese military is actually incapable of it. Everything they say and do is just verbal threats.

[@experiencescotlanddifferen4910]

Why The USA Cannot Fall Peacefully

[@nalalin8835]

THIS

[@fattfatt6483]

WITH SO MANY ENEMIES ? HOW COULD THE U S ??

[@sukumarannair6471]

The U S has been endowed with the Blessings and Grace for bearing the most heat of the test to grow a mighty nation and super state for the rest of the world as Standard bearer in undertaking safeguarding the administrative and well-being of all in the World order as in the Will and Testament of Baha’u’llah The Glory of God

[@freenational]

That would be the more apt title for this lecture.

[@sukumarannair6471]

It’s enshrined in the Will and Testament of Abdul - Baha that the United Nations as the Trustee of All Merciful for the sacrificial Services to mankind and their inseparable duty to undertake the roll of collective security and welfare of all nations with fair and Justice in their administrations as lights of guidances and advancing in world undertaking commitments .It’s our duty in worshipping God, praying for this

[@MekonenMeteor123]

10 years later we’re here

[@bastoni6617]

Yep, China invaded the US Capital

[@binshuo]

@@bastoni6617 you strawmanning, bruh. if you know how to get around GFW, you'd read more on what the heck China did over the years. China is the biggest trading partner of ASEAN countries and Japan, yet no neighbour likes China. Think about it.

[@bastoni6617]

@@binshuo Bruh you really need to read some basic IR theories. “no neighbors like China”. Btw if you just completely ignore BRI, CAI, and RCEP, and keep telling yourself the rise of China is fake news or commie propaganda, sure, have fun with it. Keep in mind the Epoch Time did a good job at analyzing China’s threats to the world. Make sure subscribing to their newspaper.

[@scotttao1782]

@@bastoni6617 哈哈，网络空间上的自由言论会加速让人类的智商和认知往极端化发展，所以各种反智言论也蛮盛行的，换个角度看，那个哥们至少是个和平爱好者或者爱心泛滥想让中国周边的国家“喜欢”中国，但脚指头想一想就知道不可能啦，先问问他自己能不能做到让生活中的邻居们，工作中的同事们，生命中的亲友们，所有人都喜欢他么？

[@mottscottison6943]

@@binshuo 'nobody likes China'. Yea we all love shit stirrer like the US.

[@mr.cosmos5199]

9 years on. This professor is so correct. But so many things unexpectedly happened these few years that China has risen peacefully so far in spite of much containment efforts by the USA.

[@sukumarannair6471]

Politicians have limited their scope of narrow ends because of their selfish pursuits! The second cosmos of Baha’i dispersions formative age, the advent of divine Justice

[@chngcheehwee5433]

it's us efforts to stir up unrests ...it is beneficial to them.

[@mr.cosmos5199]

@@gee8883 You watch too much Fox News, bbc and cnn and just mouthing antiChina western propaganda,lies and slander. It’s time you listen to people like Professor Jeffrey Sachs, Professor Chris Hedges, Professor Richard Wolff, Professor John Mearshemeir, Professor Alfred McCoy. George Galloway, John Pilger, Daniel Dumbrill, Cyrus Jansen, Vijay Prasad for the truth.

[@njikangclifford8259]

At least, you are giving yourself away. Why is it that America gives its self the RIGHT to CONTAIN another soveraign country namely China? who is being the aggressor here?

[@accountantthe3394]

Still haven't fired a single bullet tho...so technically, Mearsheimer got it wrong

[@sok8888]

Based on his logic, the title of this video should be "Why Everybody Cannot Rise Peacefully". It is applicable to every country in this world. With this mentality, no wonder USA is always going to war.

[@TuongNguyen-te8zy]

you read the Bible?

[@alridhojohendri3688]

Because Cina, the one country have influence on other countries..

[@kimobrien.]

@@alridhojohendri3688 Underneath politics is economics. The US capitalist want to control the world to protect their foreign investment that's why the US government does what it does. China has gone capitalist without a new socialist revolution in China and a Socialist revolution in the US than world war is on the horizon.

[@jacktanner4948]

Clearly you didnt watch the video then, specifically 19:00 onwards...

[@kimobrien.]

@@jacktanner4948 I thought I missed something so I watched again but why do you think domination is necessary if its not for economic purposes? The working class and small farmers don't gain from wars. We and our children are the ones who will die. We and our families are the ones who are called upon to sacrifice. Do you want your 'Patriotic' boss deducting money from your paycheck to pay for 'the war' through purchasing war bonds? Do you want inflation while your wages are frozen? Do you want to face shortages when going to the grocery store? Ration cards for gasoline and canned goods? To be told you can't quit your job because it's in the national interest? That was what it was like during WW2 America. With the advent of nuclear weapons war between the nuclear powers is a threat to life on the planet. The different capitalist trading blocs want to sell their excess production to other parts of the world. The US became the master of the world not by fighting WW1 and WW2 but by holding back as long as possible before entering. Geography protected the US from war on our soil. With the ICBM that protection is gone with the wind.

[@reconnaissanceman23]

You can see it with America trying to provoke China into a war by changing its prior position and recognizing Taiwan (and arming them) as a separate state. The same thing goes with Russia (which was rising slowly and didn't agree with the current nihilistic culture of the West and wanted to preserve its Russian culture) and was provoked to war via the arming of Ukraine.

[@fattfatt6483]

AS I HAVE SAID MANY ,MANY TIMES, USA IS THE CAUSE OF ALL THE PROBLEMS TO THE WORLD TODAY !WHAT YOU GUYS SAY ? 🇺🇲👹🤯🤡👎

[@reconnaissanceman23]

@@fattfatt6483 I do think that the US is a cause of a lot of problems in the world, not all of them. I have seen a lot of countries in sub-saharan Africa run typically by left leaning politicians who do not believe in economics and run their countries into the ground without the assistance of the US.

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

Yup

[@i-chengyeh2101]

You are right (from Taiwan)

[@djrandomwalker7656]

they are doing the same in India Punjab. Despite areas of great importance to Sikhs are all in Pakistan. the separatist demand areas of India only. Since India was in ussr camp, in past they were trained by Mossad, CIA, mi, and isi. Ever since India refused to take the American side in the Ukraine war, the movement has been revived, with pak leading the charge.

[@flyerzy]

It’s been six years since your speech, and it seems that you never know China.

[@lakekanas5680]

Maybe but it is definitely unlikely for China to rise peacefully.

[@jeffberlin4179]

@@lakekanas5680 America and the Federal Reserve Bank. Will not allow China to rise peacefully. NEVER. It's called Global Reserve Currency.

[@jaytee4482]

@@lakekanas5680 of course, us re.gime will make sure that, with aggression, provocation, anti China propaganda, it will spend hundred of millions just on anti China propaganda

[@terry1708]

Thief think others are thief too.

[@terenceteoh666]

This talk in 2012, the question of how Canada will act in this US-China strategic competition given that Canada benefits from trade with China is anwered in 2019 with the HuaWei incident. Basically, Canada has no choice and is not as independent as she thinks she is. The arrest of daughter of the founder of Hua Wei requested by US basically threw Canadian trade relationship with China under the bus.

[@mensrea1251]

A similar question continues to be posed in Australia and the answer, according to Mearsheimer, is the same - when forced into a choice between economic prosperity vs survival, the choice is clear.

[@Nokham77]

If you don't let others live in peaceful. How can you expect you can live peaceful

[@gbchina2008]

When you believe someone is an enemy, he will become your enemy

[@JeepCherokeeful]

And just because someone says they’re a friend doesn’t mean they actually are

[@michellec1866]

Lol, welcome to Xi’s world, four years later.

[@chanmc993]

Curious what you actually think now

[@lutherblissett9070]

Yep, it's a self fulfilling prophecy, as we can see now.

[@joemurphy9549]

Like Churchill said for all the 1930s that Hitler was an existential threat? Churchill did not create an enemy he observed it.

[@mintcake2668]

Who knows an international relation professor can talk with such swag? "most of the times, I'm right and you're wrong" lol

[@catrojana3694]

He's a demagogue and people like them has no relatives in the Frontlines. PhD in shit-$tirring.

[@belindathorne9784]

@@catrojana3694 He's not a demagogue you're just stoooopid

[@matthewnels]

Any chance you guys can sum this audio to mono/center? It’s unlistenable being panned all the way to the left. Would love to check this out. Thanks!

[@antifragile914]

Talk starts at 3:44

[@seanpan5231]

Because you won't allow it without a fight?

[@thesheepthemightythecrazy]

+SEAN PAN without :) but yea, you are 100% right. it doesn't matter what china wants. usa will simply go to any length to stop china's rise. including war.

[@seanpan5231]

craziii3 The JFK generation has long passed, American Neo-Cons today don't know how and don't want to keep a cold war cold.

[@napliang6929]

China is way below USA, why would USA give a shit to care china? I really doubt that the spokesmen here are representing the interest of weapon industry- making money by promoting wars and killing lives.

[@saraishinisayoutubetroll3720]

china is below usa for now but not not way below. hater

[@seanpan5231]

Nap Liang For its own good. Be very polite to people you owe # 3 trillion USD to.

[@ld871111]

If you see someone as an enemy, you will interpret his actions with suspicion and hostility. It will eventually become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[@bekaya8727]

if u see china as a friend,

[@arunsar7893]

But if you don't see someone as an enemy, when his/her actions really are hostile with malign intentions, then you are f*cked.

[@chaozheng2922]

@@arunsar7893 Both of you are right, words don't work, maybe one day the reality will make us involved in a better world peacefully.

[@sir_humpy]

Si vis pacem, para bellum. As in anything, a kind word with a gun does more than just a kind word.

[@alone-tt8dg6ic6f]

Now it is Dec'21 and you were 100% right. What an analysis! I love you Sir.

[@chartliner]

Singapore is largely dominated by Chinese, if China moves in it would be more to their liking since they already post Confucius sayings in public places. Lee Kuan Yew has stated that western democracy can't work in Asia. Whether that is true or not, Chinese dominated Singapore already sees themselves as more Chinese than American.

[@waynetong660]

Lee Kuan Yew was Singapore's brilliant leader. Deng had praised Lee highly. Deep down Singapore's economy model is something China would like to learn from.

[@chartliner]

Yes, I think China already learned lots, they are on the verge of becoming the main economy of the world displacing the USA.

[@TuanNguyen-pj3yu]

Lee Kuan Yew is Chinese but he don't want to embrace the theory communism like China .

[@jieshi323]

@@TuanNguyen-pj3yu You still call China communism or socialism? You know very little about China.

[@RedRider1600]

@@jieshi323 China still call themselves communists. They still embrace Mao and Lenin and Marx. They still fly the communist flag proudly. They teach socialism in school and in the military. All the large Chinese companies are either partly or entirely owned by the CCP government. The CCP actively manipulates and controls the Chinese economy to a much greater extent than capitalist economies. They are beginning to crack down on wealthy Billionaires. Billionaires like Jack Ma live in fear. They are talking again about wealth redistribution and wealth equality for the people. You know very little about China.

[@mgtunaung1223]

"A conflict between China and the United States would be a disaster for both countries. And it would be impossible to describe what a victory would look like," Kissinger said.

[@smokyondagrass2353]

When Henry Kissinger is the sensible one in the room, you know you fucked up

[@gainafunction1538]

When a defeated regime spends 72 years infiltrating and moulding the usa and now controls 2 great militaries and several others, and is now continuing with its' old depopulation plan , They attacked china with sars killing several thousand what is china going to do about it, besides changing the heads of the infiltrated organizations

[@tommyodonovan3883]

Kissinger should know because he, in no small measure, created the Frankenstein monster that is current year *CCP China.* Not that I dislike Kissinger, nor do I ultimately blame him, he was, after all, merely a government employee. My point is, assuming John Mearshheimer's Theory is correct, and I do, China always had the potential to be a peer competitor and that Historical fact had to be well known by any IR practitioner worth his or her salt. So the question is: *"Why did the US make the CCP into the Superpower it is today?"* A: The US wanted a peer competitor to replace the now extinct USSR, the US, like any great power, needs an enemy, the DS needs and enemy, SIC (Security Industrial Complex) needs an enemy....and an enemy like the USSR aka a small man that the US can beat on and ultimately easily defeat, but not too easily.... *Gotta feed the Monkey.*

[@levelazn]

​@@tommyodonovan3883 kissenger didn't create china. Chinese created china based on historical conditions. And what you describe as "frankenstein", is merely china adapting itself to condition internally and externally. The ability to adapt is how china actually thrives.

[@DorianLS]

@@tommyodonovan3883 "Not that I dislike Kissinger, nor do I ultimately blame him, he was, after all, merely a government employee." He was initially, but as soon as he left government service he wasted no time in setting up "Kissinger and Associates". Kissinger Associates made a great deal of money connecting American businessmen to people in China who were in a position to help them out. He might have also assisted Chinese businessmen in setting up business projects in America. He had the best contacts in both countries. Since having American business set up in China was bad for the United States and good for China I've always thought that the fantasy that if we help China make money they would give up Communism and dictatorship and become more like us, i.e., a liberal democracy. That became the justification of policies which helped China industrialize (while hollowing out industry in the US): we helped them gain access and later join agencies like the World Bank, International Monetary Fund, the WTO and we even made loans to China. We acted as if we wanted to help China. Why? I suspect money was to be made. Kissinger himself sure did well.

[@johnniewalker7628]

John is honest and 97% spot on. He is totally wrong on Australia and Canada acting on their own interests though. Also, China and Russia will not go to war as they need each other to counter EU and US.

[@JackDSquat]

At the moment China and Russia won’t go to war, but eventually as global warming increases and Russia continues to stagnate, it would be in China’s interest to assert its dominance over Siberia which is already lightly populated with Russians and is full of natural resources.

[@rap3208]

the only one interested in war is the US. The US is after all the most warmonger nation in all history. According to ex-president Jimmy Carter, the US only enjoyed 4 years of complete peace ever since it became a nation. The rest of its lifetime it spent provoking, instigating and waging war with other nations. Aside from that, it is spends its time with regime changes, color revolutions, sanctioning, etc.. Who else do you find has 800 military bases all around the world and has a budget bigger than the rest of the top ten military budgets of other nations?

[@oneviwatara9384]

@@JackDSquat Russian people should go back home in Eastern Europe problem solved.

[@DipakBose-bq1vv]

When Russia will be weak or have a weak leader China will attack as it did in 1969.

[@richardoppong7303]

You were wrong, very wrong and the professor was right.

[@hanswang4517]

this clip was ten years ago. Does it sound still fresh today?

[@nmew6926]

During these past 10 years how many bombs US and China have dropped respectively

[@lenomali]

Like one wise guy said before, how China behave in the future will be decided by what the top gun does today, as simple as that. If you ransack their border today, you should expect that to happen to you in the future.

[@ngomaibinda]

Excellent speech and theory. Only now India and and Russia are absolutely not going to get closer to the US than to each other. Additionally, the US does not offer any type of economic program that even the fast developing countries in Asia can benefit from compared to China. The USA is pushing for reckless "free trade" and forcing other countries to open their economies too soon whereas China offers cheap loans and is filling the gap in infrastructure development that exists in Asia. Its belt and road initiative is very appealing to countries in Asia while America does not have an equivalent program but only focuses on military matters and free trade.

[@macallanvintage]

The USA’s highly promoted “free trade”’is the bedrock, critical foundation to make many countries its SLAVE, and to enable the US to use “sanctions” against any non-compliant countries. Simple trick. Advertise and promote “free trade”, which lures your enemies/non-allies and allies into the playground to supply each other with products and services, and prospering in the process. No one complains about getting filthy rich. Get all the above players in your playground to use or be involved with your Anglo American banking system, SWIFT system etc for consistency, coherence and convenience. Eventually, each player will find it a standard practice to use such tools. The above enables sanctions to be effective and damaging. It enables the US to barge into ANY fiasco, scam, incidents etc and impose seizures due to the incident hvg some connection to American banking, finance, insurance, logistics, SWIFT system, mutual funds, foundations etc. And it also give the excuse to impose sanctions as a form of American political arm-twisting to punish the non-complying non-member.

[@TheSwissPoliticalSystem]

"reckless free trade", eh? Thanks to free trade China got rid of Communist economic enslavement, thanks to democracy they will get rid of Communist socio-political enslavement. Sooner or later it will happen. Nevertheless, it is obvious the elected and non- elected US elites are seriously hurting the US in many ways; Americans, sooner or later will wake up to Swiss style direct democracy.

[@taysikuu1748]

And Free sanctions any time.

[@oneviwatara9384]

He lies about how USA was single handily defeated the Japan in the pacific war but failed to mention how USA was teaming up with the British empire along with their puppet states like India, and Australia, USA also teaming up with the republic of China and USSR and Philippines, etc, not only that USA also put sanctions on Japan and using nuclear weapons to achieving their goals of defeating Japan without its USA have no chance of defeating Japan whatsoever.

[@AjayTiwari-en9nz]

None of the Chinese loans are cheap.

[@lycheecoffee6489]

A Suitable Title, "Why United States Cannot Fall Peacefully"

[@giacomolontra3707]

In WW2 you also scrapped the British Empire. But reminding it to the queen's subjects would have been rude. You are a true gentleman.

[@tianyafeixing]

JM's analysis is mostly from the standpoint of a nation which builds up its strength through hegemony and competition, and ignores the cultural aspects of other nations that stress on co-existence & cooperation. As he said, the globe is too big for a single world hegemon, so the existence of several regional hegemons should make sense. What doesn't make sense is one hegemon roams around the globe trying to prevent another regional hegemon from roaming, and push its boundaries to other's nose.

[@xinleitang8758]

the history told us If you are weak, someone will attack you. But it also tells us war is a horrible thing!!! My grandparents and my friends grandparents always told us how cruel the war was. I dont think anyone want a part of that anymore. Sorry for my bad english

[@loliloloso]

Ten years after, now the question has become: “can China fall peacefully?” 😂

[@mottscottison6943]

There's a classic Chinese saying for this, “以小人之心，度君子之腹”. Literally meaning measuring an honourable man's stomach with your own despicable heart. Thank you for reminding everyone of your colonial past and the still on going imperialism.

[@hungryghost3260]

Is that a modern-era, wisdom-laden saying from a heroic larger-than-life figure of the Chinese Communist Party? Or is it a saying from the 'real' China, the millennia-old cradle of Confucianism, of Taoism, of a great philosophical tradition that enriches the rest of the world to this day? You know, the traditional Chinese culture that a million CCP thugs tried vainly to extinguish during the Cultural Revolution? Are you actually citing a traditional Chinese saying to defend the despicable-hearted, influence-peddling thugs whose abhorrent CCP pilloried and murdered the legitimate disseminators of thousands of wise sayings? Good luck with your doomed colonial future.

[@mottscottison6943]

@@hungryghost3260 You just proven my point again predicting a colonial effort from China in the future based on your own colonial past like these old warmongers in the video. For the good of humanity, a doomed colonial future of China is always better than a successful colonial past of the West. Good luck is what the likes of you need to fight eternal wars with imaginary enemies for the rest of your lives thinking you are the good guys.

[@mottscottison6943]

@@hungryghost3260 Funny how after the abhorrent CCP killed millions of people during the Cultural Revolution and with its one child policy the nation still doubled its population since 1970s in just 50 years. On the other hand in 400 years the Native Americans and Australian Aborigines went from 15millions and 10millions respectively to below a million today, all in the benevolence of the White men. So who is lying about all the numbers and the murders of millions? You do the math and the rational thinking. Preach me about murder again while sitting on their land.

[@erichan728]

@@mottscottison6943 Well said!

[@fanofrpgalore1546]

Except China is not honourable

[@alanfriesen9837]

Although we were the primary vanquisher of the Japanese empire in the second world war the Chinese contribution was not insignificant. The vast majority of Japanese soldiers were in China and were unable to deploy to the Pacific islands because they were under attack in China.

[@pr0newbie]

The forgotten Ally, sadly, which further compounded their century of humiliation - and explains the resentment shown in their wolf warrior diplomacy whenever the West gangs up on China. Not that I agree with how international relations are developing, but I wish we'd be more empathetic to one another's history and culture.

[@A9b862]

The Red Army provided the largest land force in the Allied victory in the European theatre of World War II, and its invasion of Manchuria assisted the unconditional surrender of Imperial Japan.

[@Comm0ut]

They would have been useless or worse in island warfare because they'd have imposed a staggering logistics burden. The Japanese merchant marine had been neglected before the war and was nearly wiped out by US submarines and air power. Adding more infantry would require food, clean water, medical support, equipment and the rest of the enormous logistics "tail" the US did well and the Imperial Japanese Navy did poorly. China was indeed valuable to consume Japanese resources thus depriving the Pacific of valuable aircraft and other weapons, but infantry were the least important because they cannot march across oceans.

[@erician1000]

Scientists have proved that dreams can originate from one's personal thoughts and strong beliefs therefore causing them to see things that make absolutely no sense in their dreams.

[@hiramshen5902]

He seemed to revel in great power rivalry and competition. His theory summarized what happened in the past very well, 75% accurate according to him. However, I hope great thinkers can think of ways to defuse the present situation, encouraging countries to coexist peacefully together, rather than just summarizing the past, perhaps even fanning the flames.

[@Praisethesunson]

He is preaching saber rattling to the west. Safe for his career but totally incorrect.

[@donttellmejustlisten4598]

Lol yes i am seeing what great thinkers are doing see all around you, empires rise empires fall and there are wars that’s what is permanent golden age dark age any age .

[@tkmk87]

@@donttellmejustlisten4598 1:25:37

[@kinchau4764]

China has been rising peacefully, until Uncle Sam got jealous and feared. That’s why President Xi wants stay until Auntie Sam can have a different perspective

[@zsarimaxim692]

He is an academia not a policymaker. He can only theorize and predict, not decision making.

[@hamedpourhassan1370]

65 years old in 2012 and standing for 1.30 hours talking energetically at scene. Long live john.

[@biotravis]

He is a treasure

[@coreycox2345]

@@biotravis An international treasure.

[@Q_QQ_Q]

Genius

[@AJAYSINGH-ns1vv]

।

[@Leonghank]

I am just here list the fact: America, born from colonist British, a country which was notorious for killing Amerindians, trading black slaves and started Iraq war; China, a country which built great wall, started silk road and Zhenghe expedition tour in their prime and most powerful time. In the past 200 years, China was THE country been invaded by the Mongolian, the western countries and Japanese! And yet the American says the Chinese are not a peacefully country, WTF? Just based on the fact you are not? Name a fucking war China started invade another country huh?

[@TuanNguyen-pj3yu]

China can't start the war like Mongols , Japan ...because she is too weak and incapable to start the war . If China modernized like Japan in 19 Century , she will do the same like Japan . Any country , after developed and obtained a strong economy , they will start to extend military and will have ambition to dominate other countries like British , Germany , France , Spain , Portuguese ... China will do the same , no exception . ! In the blood of all Chinese ( except who practices Falun Gong ) having a gene to conquer and dominate other countries .

[@philipgao3093]

This f. Pro make me believe that we have to k... Them to be rich

[@Electronic424]

So just forget all the amazing things America has done for the world... nice argument.

[@fullmetalprism5249]

QuickMix really? Name one that all humanity benefited from?

[@utubeW6jem8M]

Tuan Nguyen, you are so wrong. China ,in its 5000 years of history, has been powerful with strong military many many times and for long period yet it did not colonize any country.

[@waynetong4588]

To Peter Duann - You said you are Chinese but in your comment you miss some important facts of FAIRNESS (1) after Korean War 1951, Chinese soldiers didn't stay in Korea to grab power & control (2) in border dispute with India 1962 -- China Army retreated voluntarily without further advance after victory. While India's capital was just short distance away. Why ? If China is so aggressive to invade neighbor countries. (3) Deng and Ho Chi Min were very close. China had helped N Vietnam dearly in resources & man power for decades. Why Deng in 1979 said " China has to teach Vietnam a lesson ?" Did you try to know the why ? Fact --- after victory, China Army retreated voluntarily after winning but at high costs & casulties. Did you try to find out why Deng had done such "stupid" thing ? And Deng was rated by TIME magazine " Man of the Year " and was China's most important leader. I hope you really know which country is the most aggressive country in Asia during the past 100 years.

[@miketeng5860]

DANG IS GREAT LEADER , I AGREED , THIS MAN IN THIS VIDEO TALK ALOT OF NONE SENSE, CREATING HATE TO MAN KIND , WHY HUMAN BEING SUFFERING WAR AFTER WAR BECAUSE TOO MANY IGNORANT PEOPLE LIKE HIM . THE WORLD NEED PEACE NOT WAR .. DONT COMPARE APPLE AND ORANGE .

[@plekkchand]

Did the speaker at 1:18 bother to listen to Mearsheimer's request to keep the questions concise?

[@420SOHAIB]

So when we say we do not know the intentions of an actor, aren't we conceding that state isn't the only actor and domestic leaders also play a role? Isn't it self contradictory?

[@pardeeptandon3023]

In Democracy it is very difficult to do long term strategic thinking than it is in the Chinese political system which is based on Meritocracy

[@mas-udal-hassan9277]

Democracy is Meritocracy

[@pardeeptandon3023]

@@mas-udal-hassan9277: No way,

[@nigelwiseman8644]

Fantastic objectivity!

[@BinYu-kp3ys]

Considering he gave the speech almost nine years ago. He was absolutely right!

[@richardsejour7731]

About what? What was he right about China not rising peacefully? If anything, its becoming increasingly unlikely that China would threaten its economic interests by flexing its military might.

[@leonardorestrepo5196]

@@richardsejour7731 you say that, just as China establishes a naval base in the Solomon Islands and begins to increase the number of aerial patrols near Taiwan...

[@richardsejour7731]

@@leonardorestrepo5196 China always wanted Taiwan even before this lecture was made similarly for the reasons why Russia wanted Ukraine. Taiwan will eventually be taken over by China, but that has nothing to do with military aggression more so naval security. I don't consider putting a naval base in the Solomon Islands as military aggression. How is that any different than the US sending troops to ...well all over the world or NATO expanding its hegemony all over Europe.

[@leonardorestrepo5196]

@@richardsejour7731 its part of the security dilemma: what is an ostensibly defensive maneuver will inevitably appear to others as an offensive action.

[@hairtrigger8317]

Check out Professor Michael Hudson's videos on superimperialism and you'll under stand US foreign policy pretty clearly.

[@jeansempe1441]

Bottomline, if the U.S. is willing to settle for having a regional hegemony in the Americas and in Europe then there wouldn't be any risk of conflict with China. Unfortunately, the U.S. may not be satisfied with anything less than a total global hegemony.

[@levelazn]

1.5 billion people will not be dictated by 320 million

[@giulianoilfilosofo7927]

Empires do not resign from their hegemonic role, they either Die holding to it or are kicked out of it, by agreement or by force.

[@mahmir]

what a coincidence to watch this video today : in new USMCA (replacing NAFTA), US has asked that Canada and Mexico limit and announce their new trade partnership with China. this alone is a strong support to Mearsheimer argument.

[@200421005]

Whether or not China can rise peacefully is a Pseudo-proposition, the real question is whether human beings deserve world war III or cold war II. If the answer is negative, then it is the shared responsibility to assure China will rise peacefully. It is a very serious topic concerning not only the future of China and Chinese people, but also the human kind. As long as China is repeating its willingness to cooperate with the international society peacefully. Why should we put a tag of enemy on it in a hurry? The bottom line of this speech is totally insane. Dr. John Mearsheimer has substitute the concept of rise to rule, and intentionally or sub-consciously changed the topic of how to develop into who can survive. Thus his conclusion is inevitably miles away from the truth.

[@TuanNguyen-pj3yu]

I don't care China is rise peacefully or peacefully or not , the world had to deal with China in this 21st Century . If we can't stop China ambition today , the human kind is in danger : China population increase could lead the Chinese to spread all over corner of the world and make American, English , France , South Americans ... to become minority group . With a strong economy , China will dominate the world and dictate what she want the world to do . China will conquer the space and dominate this entire Solar Systems . With the country consume a huge energy , China will pollute the Earth Planet . So , you understand why the US and the rest of the world had to have a solution to solve China issue . Don't blame US and the world , China need to blame herself !

[@jaytee4482]

@@TuanNguyen-pj3yu seems the brainwashing by the msm is very effective on this one China is not the country invading other countries all over the world over the last two centuries including your own country vietnam. Educate yourself!

[@TheSunshineRequiem]

@@TuanNguyen-pj3yu wow, the most uneducated, ignorant and racist fk i have seen on youtube, you should be banned from even commenting on the internet as you pollute my eyes

[@CN_SFY_General]

@@TuanNguyen-pj3yu The factory of the world certainly will create the most pollution in the world, it's based on physical and chemical principles.

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

China has never been an aggressive nation! America has

[@plekkchand]

Why would the inconstancy of naval routes invalidate the concept of regional hegemony?

[@patthecat6491]

I found this to be a great speech, easily accessible, in putting forth his theory in regards to the rise of China. It's more particulary intresting in regards to the developments over the past 7 years and, more recently, the last year. Good stuff.

[@levelazn]

china hasn't fired a shot yet since this speech. mean while afgahn children were droned struck by american forces with supposedly superior intelligence

[@NahedElrayes]

Holy shit! Look away from the screen and tell me you don't hear Saul Goodman talking about China.

[@Grizzlyx9]

better call saul

[@muhanmudinvande9404]

the speaker should go Syria , then he would know survival is important .

[@scotttao1782]

Today is 2021 May 17th, KZbin please recommend this video to me after another 8 years, hahaha

[@Ryan49861]

I wouldn't recommend this video to anyone as he sees the world through the lenses of American hegemonism. He predicted that US would try to stop China from rising but he failed to predict that China has risen peacefully.

[@scotttao1782]

@@Ryan49861 I cannot agree with you more. Actually, no one can predict the future, because the future is changing. I mean who can be sure that China will continue its rise peacefully if the American continue to poke China to its limit?

[@chegadesuade]

I really want to watch this, but I cannot stand just hearing it through my left headphone. Please fix audio.

[@changiordano5796]

This guy tell the truth of what the USA is.

[@AuravWalden]

One of the biggest changes with the rise of the BRICS nations would be that the world population would get more evenly distributed in the globally available land. This, in itself, could lead to a war if the 'Western' nations try to continue with their disproportionate share of it.

[@terry1708]

It's like a three year old baby thinks he know what an adult thinks.

[@mehditaba6303]

Imagine there's no country. John Lennon.

[@terencereeves-smyth2994]

Very interesting listening to this excellent lecture in November 2018 six years after it was delivered. China has since become even more powerful and the One Belt and One Road initiative has since become the China response to US dominance of the oceans. Interestingly, he does not mention Russia much; Russia is presently in 2018 the westrern bogeyman but that has more to do with the 2016 elections and the UK desire to keep the US 'pivot' in Europe rather than China. Unfortunately, from the perspective of China dominance in Asia, the US has since done everything to forward this - China now best friends with Russian Feberation and with Iran among other things

[@k-c]

He has talked about Ukraine crisis in 2015 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKOwmoaHdqyCiZY

[@sukumarannair6471]

Humanity is bound by the laws of the universe subject to both progressive civilisation in the Spiritual as well material aspects . Why Russians and whoever follow their pattern of for material gain with their crude leadership not opening wide their analytical eyes to see the greater truth! It’s a pity that they are confined to their own crab-minded culture of perceiving around pool and not the whole ! Blinded by their own backyard ! Are they different kind of creation from others?!

[@michael511128]

10 years on...China is not the country with shootings, racism, opioids, fentanyl, strikes, inflation, credit card loans, student loans, medical bills, evictions, homeless, hunger, armed robberies, falling bridges, broken railways, wars and mentally ill veterans. China is rid of absolute poverty, partnered with 151 countries in Belt & Road. US survey just ranked China #1 in Happiest Country, 91% feeling happy and satisfied. China has more Fortune 500 companies than the US and just about as many billionaires. China produces no banker billionaires who make financial crisis, no oilmen billionaires who pollutes the Earth, no weapon billionaires who kill people, no Big Pharm billionaire who love people to get sick, no Big Food billionaires who starve kids to their deaths. Chinese billionaires make EVs, batteries, green energy, digital logistics, smart home appliances or super apps, things greener, sustainable, contributing to society and humanity. This American old fck is complete nuts. The title should be "why the US can't fall peacefully?"

[@thenattygorilla]

This John Mearsheimer guy sounds like Saul Goodman...

[@DirefulT453]

Interesting talk and interesting Q&A from 10yrs ago. I'd be interested in knowing his thoughts today about the geopolitical split that is happening now i.e. between the collective west and the geopolitical south and why his analysis was off, to some degree, about the formation of BRICS

[@natan4629]

Waiting for the mini me to walk out next to him.

[@nh6870]

Historically, before WWII, Britain was the world dominant power. After 1776, the USA gradually took over. She focused on domestic economic development, and was contented to leave the world alone until December 7, 1941 with the Pearl Harbor attack. Since then, she began to play a more active role and gradually began to dominate the world. Initially, she tried to keep world peace. As economic profitability becomes more and more important, her focus changed and she becomes more arrogant & cunning at meddling in weaker countries domestic affairs or bullying countries for their oil or preventing them from developing into their own nations. China does not have a history of world domination. No one help China rebuild during her most difficult years (although Russia did) after WWII. By her own people's sweat, toil, and sacrifices, China managed to develop and her people's lives gradually improve. She sold products at very cheap prices so that developed countries' businesses can make profits off of her. Now that China has become stronger, the US realizes that she cannot order China about. Why should China or any other country need to listen to the US? Unlike the US, China desires to to build economic co-operation, not political domination. This annoys the U.S. of course.. China is a free country and so can develop militarily to protect herself. The 2nd amendment in the US Constitution protects and allows her citizens to bear arms. China have just as much right to bear arms too. Imperial Japan was like Hitleristic Germany. After WWII, despite Japan's constitution that prevented her to increase her military spending, she has consistently supported US political aggressions against China. We all in Asia remember Japan and none of us trust her, (not her politicians anyway) - not South Korea, nor most Southeast Asian nations whose countries were occupied and our ancestors butchered. We don't forget these things. Depending on what the US President's agenda is/are, he either conveniently forgets about the American Revolution of 1776 or the 2,403 lives lost in the Pearl Harbor attack and drums up lies about this or that country so that his armament, oil or economically greedy buddy friends can profit from those lies and propaganda. What does this tells us about US politicians after WWII? Self centered, Machiaevallistic, prejudiced at will etc. who gives no thoughts about his citizens. The World is changing. We don't need the US to be Big Brother anymore. Solve your own domestic problems first Focus on improving the lives of Americans who live below poverty level instead. ABC in-depth news videos have continually promoted, distorted and reported lies to everyone .To the US, anyone who does not want to be controlled by Uncle Sam is bad. Have you forgotten why your ancestors revolted against the British Empire? Because the latter tried to control you. You didn't like it, So you revolted against it. China and many other countries feel the same way too. We in Asia don't want the US to control and tell us what we can or cannot do in this world. The World belongs to us all, not just you. ABC and other media outlets in the US, UK, Australia, New Zealand along with other similar groups colludes to put China and other countries down. All these serve no productive purposes other than to prolong conflicts, continually causes inter-country disputes, inter-racial divisiveness and the deliberate instigation of deep hatred in humanity. Are you going to let these politicians and media use their skillful manipulation to promote their own interests, ruin your businesses or run your lives? Please be neither naïve nor quiet. Speak out in order that they may shut up. We want governments that will make positive contributions to her people and genuine friendships between countries so that this world can actually becomes a much better place.

[@saimalishahid1406]

To say that China doesn't desire control and domination if it benefits it isn't telling the entire truth. China, as like any other power, isn't above such desires. Such benevolence isn't a serious foundation for how world powers think and operate for their foreign policies. They only use the appearence benevolence to manipulate and have their in the end when the time is right.

[@forests.9597]

China for world peace, freedom, sovereignty, and global unconditional friendship... What the hell are you on?

[@ngomaibinda]

You are correct.

[@Charnelex]

"and was contented to leave the world alone until December 7, 1941 " I stopped here because it was an easily disprovable lie. Central America, South America, the Philippines (at the very least) don't count to you? Or are you so uneducated that you don't know your history. Trash ass comment.

[@francisliew2801]

Unfortunately for you, the Deep State in America do not like your advice. America was fully developed by 1870, not 1941. Without American interference in 1917, Kaiser Wilhelm would have won

[@barryleveson5895]

New Zealand freeloads off Australia with a disproportionally low investment in defense. Former prime minister Helen Clerk said in the face of rising China: "New Zealand exists in an incredibly benign security environment", so why shouldn't Canada also freeload?

[@superlight7654]

Yes, and you know what Australia does? Hmmm.....

[@geechan4744]

There is no glass, nevermind half full.

[@philoso377]

When our speaker repeatedly stress that this talk is based on assumption that all states in discussion are under anarchy, could be a hint that give away he is covering something in an opposite direction.

[@alterego157]

It's very refreshing to see an intellectually honest take on international relations.

[@levelazn]

china hasnt fired a shot in 42 years. how many wars has u.s been in?

[@ennediend2865]

@@levelazn Ask Taiwan , Tibet and Wighur people !! HAHA 🤪😱☠💀☠

[@chngcheehwee5433]

@@ennediend2865 😂😂😂 ask Syria Libya Iraq Afghanistan Nicaragua Haiti Vietnam Laos Korea China....etc

[@kittytam1545]

@@levelazn, Data confirmed this ; Ever since WW2, The earth has had 248 armed conflicts. America involves 201, nearly 80% of them. As the result, the US has murdered 30+ million people and still counting.... Sadly, 90% of these deaths are innocent kids, elderlies as well as ordinary working civilians. The US has murdered more than Hitler's Nazis, Japanese plus Putin. Sarcastically, the War Worshipper appellants Putin and Xi are the typical brutal killers on earth. They might think that people are stupid, mightn't they???

[@driftwood757]

I'm an American living in Beijing. These comments disgust me and make me really sad. You should never try to convince someone their race or culture is inferior in any way. We need love in this world. I am American and I am NOT okay with war, and I do NOT waste my time judging my fellow human beings. I love Chinese because they are humans. I love my people because they are humans. I would never try to convince anyone they are worse than me because I'd be diluting myself and harming another persons emotional body.

[@richardhe5973]

+Collin Glover I totally agree, I think a large portion of the Chinese population don't want war. Most of the Chinese have better lives and focusing on better education and becoming more creative. We all fear that the CCP will let the economy collapse, and ruin the country. I'm sure the newer generation of University students will be able to fix the economy. Most Chinese are learning more about the west and are more understanding of each other.

[@kissmychinkass677]

+Collin Glover = about as diluted as a human can get. right into stupidity.

[@driftwood757]

+Richard He when the west and east shake hands for good, we can turn our attention, economies and resources to Global threats like global warming, deforestation and things like it. People so quickly forget that we have environmental issues which are equally as dangerous to all of humanity as a nuclear war would be.

[@saraishinisayoutubetroll3720]

i kind agree. naive would be better

[@xxxx-dh9pk]

Collin Glover - If you are a true peace loving person, tell your fellow Americans that what CNN and fox news say about China are mostly fabrication, tell them to stop lying and stop starting wars and creating chaos in other countries, then we chinese people will appreciate you so much. I have been living in America for 24 years. I came here for school then married to an American and have a kid with her. I am so ready to go back because the racism as well as ignorance of the people is getting unbearable. American media are notorious for their lies. They do that just to create problems to fix so that their power hungry government and money hungry corporations can benefit. it seems like nobody here realize that people here are being manipulated and taken advantage of.

[@taradeleeuw2344]

The weird thing China doesn’t make me nervous or worry in comparison to my own country,like really

[@giselameunier4788]

Yah, for sure USA can 't imagine that a country can rise peacefully

[@portes123321]

Nov 17-23, 2016 - I am extremely pleased to announce that during his visit to CELAC (The Community of Latin America and Caribbean States), China´s President Xi Jinping pledged to boost bilateral cultural exchanges and mutual learning between China-Latin America and Caribbean civilizations. Xi called for deepening cultural dialogue between China and Latin America and the Caribbean countries, based on mutual respect, equality and mutual benefit, in order to facilitate mutual learning between their respective civilizations, thus promoting friendship between China and Latin America and Caribbean peoples, and the progress of the human society and world peace. CELAC consists of 33 sovereign countries in the Americas representing roughly 600 million people; and I am not even touching the BRICS Nations (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South America) which represents half of the world´s populations plus 100 allies (countries) as of now that decided to join us. USA, Canada and most of the European countries are nowhere to be found. For the past a hundred years, USA has been at war trying to conquer while China was working peacefully and quietly closing partnership around the world. So China is not going to rise peacefully; it did already. The world belongs to the "young" generation and for the ones that already took the red pill, like I did at the age of 16, our job is to educate our young generation to take over and build a peaceful world.

[@mbr8167]

Was this before or after they unleashed the bio weapon? Or violently took over hong kong? Or threatened Taiwan? I'm confused.

[@haohuajiang526]

@@mbr8167 I mean bro, you really need education. First the antibody test for COVID-19 igM/igG with Red Cross serum samples showed that COVID was already spreading in west coast community before December 13th 2019. Second, Hong Kong is nothing more than a special province of China ever since 1997, and you don’t take over your own territory. Third, ROC and PRC are in the middle of a strangely stopped war with absolutely no truce or treaty signed, so don’t be foolish about the threatening part. If you are so interested in democracy and peace, why not just tell American carriers to get the fk off from the Taiwan Strait.

[@pardeeptandon6730]

China was the biggest economy of the world for 1800 years of the last 2000 years and it hardly went to any major war to trade . Yes it dominated its region but not by killings. While the west dominated the world by its military power and not by trade. So your assumption that a rich country will go to war to dominate other countries is a western concept and not a Chinese Confucius concept.

[@invisiondesign9955]

Sound on left side only

[@kinchau4764]

I can only understand the first five seconds of the last guy😢

[@gammaifngamma680]

Senkaku Islands are Diaoyu islands, discovered by Chinese at least 200 years prior to Japanese awareness of the existence of the island. The Japanese was aware of Chinese fore-claim of the island. It was ceded to Japan after the first Sino-Japanese War but never returned despite Japanese's surrender in the Second Sino-Japanese War/Second World War.

[@oneviwatara9384]

There were no China since 12th century hence its was called Mongolian empire followed by the Yuan dynasty, Qing dynasty (Manchurian), and Japanese empire 😅

[@commie5211]

@@oneviwatara9384 I agree, Japan would be an inseparable part of China in the future.

[@wawakong]

Dear Professor: where does China go , and how will China rise is not depend on any other country.Any country's development is not depend on the comments from its neighbour or someone have a different color. We Chinese do not have to prove anything, we do not need to provide anything to show u guys what's going on inside.The future of the country , lies in the ppl of its own country. It will not influence by the others opinion. Germany is the same, Japan is the same, US is the same , UK is the same,and China is the same too.On the other hand, u guys can talk and discuss about us, u have the rights, and we will not interfere and pay attention.

[@bangbaco2690]

How about the tension in southeast asia?

[@tattata5380]

Exactly the whole point of this all. China's disregard to others is causing tensions that might lead to armed conflict. Has Chinese people been living under a cave this whole time? Are most of China not aware that there are sovereign countries out there that you cannot just coerce or take whatever you wish? It's that mentality that is causing the problems and no surprise that China's neighbours are unsettled. You say, that people can talk and China wont listen or care. Well, I guess when the bucket is full and most of China's neighbours are fed up that bullets, missiles, and worse a-bombs starts falling, then I guess China then would listen or care. Must it get to that point before China realizes what it's causing? And China says it's peaceful? Give us a break!

[@bangbaco2690]

China should listen to there neighbors in east asia specially philippines and vietnam China didn't agree on code of conduct nor listen....They continue to build infrastructure and military bases in spratley islands which creates tension and worry that might lead into war.....

[@renshiwu305]

Chinese actions are not a product of "the people" because the Chinese Communist Party, a small clique, thoroughly controls Chinese national policy. If the Chinese regime were to become representative of the people, I am sure that China's issues with its neighbors would be mollified, at least in part.

[@rawdycozzy3528]

China is rising because the world is helping, hopefully China realizes that, and in turn helps the world back.

[@luciavanolli]

Magnificent Speech, as usual! 10 years after this Speech, and I guess You're a kind of "Prophet"! We're exactly watching everything You said is happening! Compliments! Best Wishes and Regards! ❤

[@Topaz2022]

Look who is talking about peace!😅!🤣!😂??

[@susieq9751]

Playground bully mentality. Cannot grasp that some people might be big and strong and NOT want to grab everyone else's stuff.

[@pauloyih1]

Excellent point:)

[@srigunapati]

+susieQ really? i think that guy is right. Have you heard of how lee kuan yew destroyed his political opponents? Have you forgotten tianamen square or fahlungong ? If china becomes leader, theyre gonna kungfu everyones ass. Dont want peoples property? Do you know the scale of intellectual property piracy going on wrt China products? They know what is difficulty of life and theyre highly motivated. The world is not going to like it. Even Chinese citizens are migrating. China is a survivor. Dont underestimate their temper.

[@pauloyih1]

+Karthy thik -- It sounded like all of you are getting too used to the old colonialism of the Brits and now the Americans.. Yes, there is this "comfort zone" for those have been conquered and under the rules of the Colonialism -- or dare we call that Economic Barbarism of the old mode ?

[@pauloyih1]

+susieQ Susie, who is the playground bullies now ? The 800 military bases of the US in and around the world and with all these bogus wars -- not bullies :) I think you are getting too accustomed to the "Bullywood" of the West :)

[@jaytee4482]

@@srigunapati 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂 keep spreading the yellow peril, you are very good at it

[@mgtunaung1223]

"What we need to do now is to find something on which we can genuinely cooperate, not just mitigating problems that arise, something that is done on both sides of the Pacific and that engages the best minds of both sides on some common project."Kissinger said

[@aksbeixhev]

Kissinger is an idiot, his advice has led to this very moment. We've given the authoritarian and oppressive regime all our technology and innovation and let them infiltrate our multilateral organisation like the UN. Now we're reaping what we've sowed.

[@davidvaillancourt5111]

@@aksbeixhev Americans don't get it but if I was in a room with a person from every major country in the world the one I would trust the least is the American. And this is somewhat true for the whole fucking world. So indeed, you are reaping what you've sowed.

[@jaytee4482]

@@aksbeixhev your tech and innovation which you steal from other countries and now you accuse China of doing it

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

“To be our enemy can be dangerous, to be our friend is fatal” Kissinger

[@edwardlee2794]

Very thought provoking talk. the five assumptions though not all encompassing but very valid. it serves as a good basis to explore the issue further. and let's hope the future is not as dismal with more valid criteria to prove otherwise. thanks for holding the presentation.

[@antoinedebiran5011]

The saying is that "old men send young men to war" but Prof M. shows that "old is sometimes gold" and that "wise old men are against young men risking a nuclear war".

[@bizzybgful]

I never heard a strategic lecture that outline history and motives of countries. very true. five thumbs up

[@Brianbeesandbikes]

Michael Hudson, Gerald Horne are excellent speakers on State motivation.

[@kittytam1545]

i only have 2.

[@vnthakkar]

This is very relevant even a decade later, love Professor Mearsheimer's lectures.

[@davidbartlett-vowles7006]

Is it really? China has already risen peacefully. If the status quo is not messed with by the US then it will remain peaceful.

[@mistycloud4455]

A.G.I Will be man's last invention

[@jazziejim]

A young Braves game to the chief and said I see people doing good things and I see people doing bad things. What is the real nature? Is it good or bad? The chief told the young man, “There was a good wolf who was kind and helpful and there was a bad wolf who was mean and selfish. They would fight often. They would come by our tent looking for food often as well. There was a long famine and the wolves could find little to eat. They came by our tent one night and began to fight.” Then the old man stopped. The young man waited, then he asked, “Then what happened? Which wolf won?“ The old chief said, “The one you feed, of course.” That’s what I object to with Meirsheimer. He feeds the bad wolf with his emphasis on uncertainty and fear.

[@bookerslawn]

While both John Mearsheimer and Kenneth waltz claim themselves as Structural realists, they never cross reference each other in any of their talks. Anyone have any idea about that?

[@waynetong660]

I wonder why in Mao era when China was poor, there was few criticism from USA and Japan. Now as China is emerging and improving, there are more propaganda against China. Why ? It is a good issue to think about !

[@hillxie1802]

"Zero Tolerance" on another super power, this guy has made it very clear.

[@terenceteoh666]

His comments about Singapore may not be that accurate. He thinks that Singapore is afraid that China is a big threat to tiny Singapore and we need protection from the US. Singapore also view itself as a tiny city State that thrives on commerce. It views China and US as two giant elephants in the room that it needs to balance its relationship with. One elephant leaving the room will not result in the other elephant trampling on it. Two elephants with hostile intentions towards each other is more dangerous for Singapore.

[@titusp9488]

This is so ... very star wars ... fear leads to hate and hate leads to suffering for ALL!

[@elenaolivares6965]

Interesting Dr. Bershimer??? can you spell that for me???

[@ZhangJingyuan]

The title should not be "Why China Cannot Rise Peacefully". The title should be "Why the US should sabotage China's Rise". While England and later the US can not tolerant continental hegemony, China historically does not care about other hegemonies as long as they are not offensive to China. Dr. Mearshiemer implicitly assumes that all states are equally suspicious. However, this assumption simply is not the case.

[@erichan728]

China will not imitate the US to be a superpower; China will not imitate the US being a superpower. 1. China has risen to be a super economic power in the last 4 decades peacefully (without a single shot fired) 2. China will not continue to rise peacefully, because the US will not allow...The old guy is knowledgeable, I have to say. But he doesn't know China, which is a different world for him. Also scholars like this kind do lots of damages on the planet. No country can stay as a hegemony forever, no mater regional or global. Live, and let live! Why not promote mutual understanding, cooperation etc.

[@sir_humpy]

How does China's being secretive about Wuhan's lab activities and preventing the WHO investigation team early this year access to data translate into your "mutual understanding and cooperation"? Shouldn't China do everything possible and disclose every possible piece of data to prove it wasn't their mega fuck up instead of trying to cover up all the while making offended noises?

[@JackDSquat]

China has not risen peacefully. In China people are being forced into reeducation camps, the nation is being aggressive towards liberal and free nations like Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea, it is claiming the entire South China Sea as China’s personal pond, it is debt trapping poor African nations so they can become useful puppets, and China is slaughtering dissidents, not only in Hong Kong but all throughout China. China is authoritarian, unstable, and only cares about itself, as it unfairly asserts itself over its neighbors while simultaneously denying rights to its citizens. China is clearly going to become the next “big bad” in the coming years just like how Germany and the USSR were in the past.

[@erichan728]

​@@JackDSquat Read words in my post: China has risen to be a super economic power in the last 4 decades peacefully (without a single shot fired), which has happened. No matter how you deny it. Fact is Fact! “In the US people are being forced into prisons”. Look how many prisoners in the US? How many are being killed by the police every year without any trial? China is being aggressive towards South Korea? LMAO! You are either brainwashed/damaged or a paid troll. If the BRI is really debt trapping which should not thrive/survive on its own, then why the US and even Europe have come up their own “Initiative” to compete? Even it is debt trapping, it is much better than the west did to Africa (hundreds of years’ colonization & genocide). The fact is BRI is not debt trapping. It has benefited many African countries by building many infrastructures badly needed for their real long-term development. If you really care, go check it out. “China is slaughtering dissidents, not only in Hong Kong but all throughout China.” Honestly speaking I travelled quite often to China before the pandemic. It is totally BS! It is unbelievable nowadays there are still people like you believing BS like this. I wish people would wake up to the facts, but I do feel hopeless and sorry for people like you. If believing nonsense like this make you feel better, be it. But I have to remind you: the US is the biggest threat to the planet. Its military is the No. Polluter, bigger than 100+ countries combined. Again FACT! Look how many wars has the US waged? How many bombs has the US dropped on our planet including the nuclear bombs? The US is the only country which dropped nuclear bombs killing thousands of civilians. Again FACT!

[@erichan728]

@@JackDSquat The following is quoted. U.S interventions around the globe (interventions, operations) 1840 - invasion of Fiji. 1841 - genocide on the island of Upolu (Drummond). 1843 - invasion of China. 1846-1848 war with Mexico. 1846 - aggression against the New Granada (Colombia). 1849 - shelling of Indochina. 1852 - invasion of Argentina. 1853-1856 - invasion of China. 1853 - invasion of Argentina and Nicaragua. 1854 - the destruction of the Nicaraguan city of San Juan del Norte. 1854 - an attempt to capture the Hawaiian Islands. 1855 - invasion and coup in Nicaragua. 1855 - invasion of Fiji and Uruguay. 1856 - invasion of Panama. 1858 - intervention in Fiji, genocide. 1858 - invasion of Uruguay. 1859 - attack on the Japanese fort of Taku. 1859 - invasion of Angola. 1860 - invasion of Panama. 1863 - punitive expedition to Shimonoseki (Japan). 1864 - military expedition to Japan. 1865 - invasion of Paraguay, genocide, 85% of the population destroyed. 1865 - intervention of Panama, coup d'état. 1866 - an attack on Mexico. 1866 - punitive expedition to China. 1867 - attack on the Midway Islands. 1868 - repeated invasion of Japan. 1868 - invasion of Uruguay and Colombia. 1874 - the entry of troops into China and Hawaii. 1876 - invasion of Mexico. 1878 - attack on Samoa. 1882 - the entry of troops into Egypt. 1888 - an attack on Korea. 1889 - punitive expedition to Hawaii. 1890 - the introduction of troops in Haiti. 1890 - the introduction of troops into Argentina. 1891 - intervention in Chile. 1891 - punitive expedition to Haiti. 1893 - the introduction of troops into Hawaii, the invasion of China. 1894 - intervention in Nicaragua. 1894-1896 - invasion of Korea. 1894-1895 - the war in China. 1895 - invasion of Panama. 1896 - the invasion of Nicaragua. 1898 - the capture of the Philippines, genocide (600,000 Filipinos). 1898 - invasion of the port of San Juan del Sur (Nicaragua). 1898 - the capture of the Hawaiian Islands. 1899-1901 - war with the Philippines. 1899 - invasion of the Nicaraguan port of Bluefields. 1901 - the entry of troops into Colombia. 1902 - invasion of Panama. 1903 - the entry of troops into Honduras, the Dominican Republic, Syria. 1904 - the entry of troops into Korea, Morocco. 1904-1905 - intervention in the Russo-Japanese War. 1905 - intervention in the revolution in Honduras. 1905 - the entry of troops to Mexico. 1905 - the entry of troops into Korea. 1906 - invasion of the Philippines. 1906-1909 - invasion of Cuba. 1907 - operations in Nicaragua. 1907 - intervention in the revolution in the Dominican Republic. 1907 - participation in the war of Honduras with Nicaragua. 1908 - invasion of Panama. 1910 - invasion of Bluefields and Corintho (Nicaragua). 1911 - intervention in Honduras. 1911 - genocide in the Philippines. 1911 - the introduction of troops into China. 1912 - the capture of Havana (Cuba). 1912 - intervention in Panama during the elections. 1912 - invasion of Honduras. 1912-1933 - the occupation of Nicaragua. 1914 - intervention in the Dominican Republic. 1914-1918 - a series of incursions into Mexico. 1914-1934 - the occupation of Haiti. 1916-1924 - occupation of the Dominican Republic. 1917-1933 - the occupation of Cuba. 1918-1922 - occupation of the Russian Far East. 1918-1920 - the introduction of troops into Panama. 1919 - landing of troops in Costa Rica. 1919 - war against the Serbs in Dolmatia on the side of Italy. 1919 - intervention in Honduras during the elections. 1920 - intervention in Guatemala. 1922 - intervention in Turkey. 1922-1927 - intervention in China. 1924-1925 - invasion of Honduras. 1925 - military operations in Panama. 1926 - the invasion of Nicaragua. 1927-1934 - the occupation of China. 1932 - the invasion of El Salvador. 1936 - intervention in Spain. 1937 - won with Japan. 1937 - intervention in Nicaragua, state coup. 1939 - the introduction of troops in China. 1941-1945 - the genocide of the civilian population of Germany (Dresden, Hamburg). 1945 - nuclear attack on Japan. 1945-1991 - sabotage activity against the USSR. (Invasion of the airspace - more than 5000, parachute assaults - 1940, direct diversions, the total budget - 13 trillion dollars). 1946 - punitive operations in Yugoslavia. 1946-1949 - the bombing of China. 1947-1948 - Reconciliation of Vietnam, genocide. 1947-1949 - military operations in Greece. 1948-1953 - military operations in the Philippines. 1948 - military coup in Peru. 1948 - military coup in Nicaragua. 1948 - military coup in Costa Rica. 1949-1953 - attempts to overthrow the government in Albania. 1950 - punitive operations in Puerto Rico. 1950-1953 - intervention in Korea. 1951 - military assistance to Chinese rebels. 1953-1964 - security operations in British Guyana. 1953 - the overthrow of Mossadegh, who received 99.9% of the vote in the referendum. 1953 - Forcible deportation of the Inuit (Greenland). 1954 - Overthrow of the government in Guatemala. 1956 - the beginning of military assistance to Tibetan insurgents in the fight against China. 1957-1958 - an attempt to overthrow the government in Indonesia. 1958 - the occupation of Lebanon. 1958 - bombing of Indonesia. 1959 - the entry of troops into Laos. 1959 - punitive operations in Haiti. 1960 - military operations in Ecuador. 1960 - invasion of Guatemala. 1960 - Support for a military coup in El Salvador. 1960-1965 - interference in the internal affairs of the Congo. Support Mobutu. 1961-1964 - a military coup in Brazil. 1961 - a terrorist war against Cuba using bacteriological weapons. 1962 - punitive operations in Guatemala. 1963-1966 - coup d'état and punitive operations in the Dominican Republic. 1964 - punitive operation in Panama. 1964 - support for the coup in Brazil. 1964-1974 - interference in the internal affairs of Greece. 1965 - a coup d'état in Indonesia, genocide. 1965-1973 - aggression against Vietnam. 1966 - intervention in Guatemala. 1967 - Support for the coup and subsequent fascist regime in Greece. 1968 - hunting for Che Guevara in Bolivia. 1971-1973 - the bombing of Laos. 1971 - American military assistance in the coup in Bolivia. 1972 - the entry of troops into Nicaragua. 1973 - coup in Chile. 1973 - terror in Uruguay. 1974 - Support for the regime of Moboth in Zaire. 1974 - preparation of aggression in Portugal. 1974 - attempted coup in Cyprus. 1975 - the occupation of Western Sahara, the introduction of troops in Morocco. 1975 - interference in the internal affairs of Australia. 1975 - an attack on Cambodia. 1975-1989 - Support for the genocide in East Timor. 1978 - military assistance to the dictator, financing of the genocide. 1979 - Support for the cannibal Bocas. 1979 - military assistance to the rebels of Yemen. 1980-1992 - military presence in El Salvador, special operations, genocide. 1980-1990 - military assistance to Iraq. A million dead in ten years. 1980 - support and funding of the Khmer Rouge. 1980 - operation "Gladio" in Italy, 86 victims. 1980 - punitive operation in South Korea. 1981 - attempted coup in Zambia. 1981 - military pressure on Libya, downed two Libyan aircraft. 1981-1990 - Contra support, terrorism, genocide. 1982 - interference in the internal affairs of Suriname. 1982-1983 - attack on Lebanon. 1982 - Support for the genocide in Guatemala. 1983 - intervention in Grenada. 1983 - interference in the internal affairs of Angola. 1984 - two Iranian planes were shot down. 1984 - mining of the bays of Nicaragua. 1985 - financing of the genocide in Chad. 1986 - an attack on Libya. 1986-1987 - attack on an Iranian ship in international waters, the destruction of the Iranian oil platform. 1986 - financing and military support of social terror, seizure of natural resources. 1987-1988 - participation in the Iraq war against Iran, the use of chemical weapons. 1988 - financing of terror and genocide in Turkey. 1988 - the explosion of a passenger plane "Pan American" over Scotland. The wine was recognized in 2003. 1988 - invasion of Honduras. 1988 - the destruction of the Iranian passenger aircraft. 1989 - intervention in Panama. 1989 - two Libyan planes were shot down. 1989 - bombing in the Philippines. 1989 - punitive operation on the Virgin Islands. 1990 - the genocide in Guatemala. 1990 - Iraq's naval blockade. 1990 - financing of the Bulgarian opposition ($ 1.5 million) 1991 - aggression against Iraq. 1991 - the bombing of Kuwait. 1992-1994 - the occupation of Somalia. 1992 - genocide and terror in the capture of the natural resources of Angola (destroyed 650,000 people). 1993-1995 - the bombing of Bosnia. 1994-1996 - terror against Iraq. 1994 - genocide in Rwanda (about 800,000 people). 1995 - the bombing of Croatia. 1998 - the destruction of a missile strike by a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan. 1998 - the bombing of Iraq. 1999 - aggression against Yugoslavia. 2001 - invasion of Afghanistan. 2002 - the entry of troops into the Philippines. 2003 - actions in Liberia. 2003 - clashes with Syrian border guards. 2004 - the entry of troops into Haiti. 2004 - Attempted coup in Equatorial Guinea. 2008 - the invasion of Pakistan. 2008 - The war in South Ossetia 2011 - The war in Libya 2013 - The war in Syria 2014 - The War in Ukraine?

[@erichan728]

​@@sir_humpy Of course what you mentioned above does not translate in to my "mutual understanding and cooperation". I have no idea what you are tying to get out of this, but apparently promoting mutual understanding and cooperation is not in your statement to begin with. Just like my asking: how does the US ' killing civilians/children in Afghan/Iraq translate into it? how does the US' invading Iraq based on the pure lie Massive Destructive Weapons translate into it? How does the US' imposing sanctions on ICC prosecutors to avoid the investigations into its war crimes and crimes against humanity in Palestine and Afghanistan etc.?! ... Is it kind of funny? But I have to say that I agree with you that China should work with WHO investigation team. I don't have lots of info about this, but I follow Mr. Peter Daszak on twitter and I do remember as a WHO investigation team member who went to Wuhan Mr. Daszak did have some positive comments about China's support during the investigation. If you care, please find out. Again I am not an expert to comment on this, and again I agree with you that China should support the investigation. I have no idea whether you are a paid troll or not. But what I was trying to say in my comment after listening to John J. Mearsheimer's speech is China is very different from the US and "Live and let live", which will better for us all, especially for common folks like us. People like him being a great influencer should promote understanding, cooperation and peace instead of promoting conflicts/fighting for being a hegemony, IMO.

[@raymondli2784]

"I don care what you think. I need you think what I think you are thinking."

[@yvestjiu]

only single track, pls amend.

[@MsAlore]

I appreciate how Dr John Mearsheimer answers every question in such a detailed man, dissecting it and answer them part by part. I truly enjoyed this speech for what it has enlightened me with. Thank doctor and Cips!

[@a.k.830]

I watched it a couple of years ago and it’s still imprinted in my mind. Great respect for Dr. Mearshiemer.

[@Timmerdetimmerdetim]

heimer, not hiemer:)

[@a.k.830]

@@Timmerdetimmerdetim thanks for correction.

[@henkholdingastate]

America has never had to worry about an outside attack that's right. But there is a real threat to America. A threat that might be much worse. That is the threat from within America that will eventually lead to the abyss. A threat that cannot be resolved in the short term after 40 years of right-wing rampage in favor of the rich that ultimately left America poor. Americans, for example, do not even know what another earns or what is a normal income for his job and think that everyone is well off. But with an average salary of $30,000, it's actually a matter of keeping up. And everyone looks jarlours at the neighbors and thinks they're doing well but will also die with debts

[@qijia4769]

the power of brain washing.

[@AbhishekKumar-sz9fl]

Lol...

[@cscsp]

Nobody can stand taller than Uncle Sam otherwise he will have your legs shortened. Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the tallest of them all?

[@junyin2216]

It's quite interesting to look it over today.

[@MarshallTheArtist]

When did China not expand? It didn't get to be so expansive without expanding. Most of the territories conquered by the Middle Kingdom were the countries that previously conquered it. The cultures merged over time and China continues to have enormous cultural influence over Mongolia, Siberia, Japan, Korea, and Southeast Asia. It is wise to be conscious of these relationships.

[@yvelinerakotondramboa2295]

Historically correct. Be conscious and cautious

[@junfu9452]

You are an excellent story teller of American Psyche.

[@patriceromain7268]

iQ shit world still in chaos

[@1WhiteAkita]

I agree with Tube Report that JOHN MEARSHEIMER is ignorant of things China and Chinese. I am borned and raised in Hong Kong. I only realise how "unChinese" I am after I've immigrated to Canada. The fact that my family has been converted into Christianity when Mathew Ricci was in Macao, made me more "unChinese" than most Hong Kong natives. I realised I was unChinese when I noticed that we speak differently. Hong Kong people call computer computers, in the early days of the Chinese reform starting in 1978, Mainland Chinese called computers "electronic calculators." The way we called a floppy disk was also very different. Then I realised I do not observe most of the 24 seasonal "festivals" and my family does not cook dishes that go with these festivals, like making soup with lotus leaves on the 6th day of the 6th month. There is a long list. The point is, Hong Kong people have long since became unChinese in daily lives. When John Mearsheimer repeatedly said that China will become a huge Hong Kong, I had to concede that he is ignorant. I'd insist that it will be the other way around - Hong Kong will eventually became China and starting to observe Chinese festivals, habits and traditions. I've arrived at this conclusion because I've been following TVB drama series through the changing time from 1978 to 2020. Sure, Chinese picked up many Hong Kong pop culture. But quietly and irrevocably, Hong Kong started speaking mainland Chinese. Mearsheimer could not notice that unless he spends as much time watching Hong Kong television drama before and after the repatriation of Hong Kong in 1997. Another significant reason why Hong Kong will become Chinese in stead of the other way around is the shear volume of 1.4 billion compares to 730 million. I would think that it is easier to convert 730 million than trying to convert 1.4 billion. On top of that, the Hong Kong 730 millions have Chinese roots albeit it might have been diluted. The 1.4 billion Chinese became exposed to Hong Kong influence only in the last 30 to 40 years. Note: Mathew Ricci arrived in Macao in around 1580. He was in China about 400 years ago.

[@VIEWITIS]

You can skip past intros to 8:48

[@EdwinaTS]

A very entertaining speaker. Extremely good listener, and very wise & clever replies. An excellent professor!

[@carlylui]

Listening to this talk in September 2020, I was amazed by Mearsheimer’s insight into the imbalance of military power between China and its neighbours.

[@user-ri1up9fu2j]

How about the imbalance of military power between USA and its neighbors, it is why all but Cuba behave so obediently.

[@sea2959]

@@user-ri1up9fu2j pretty much. But some people " know everything so they don't have to learn or listen anymore"

[@felipelim4750]

WHAT ABOUT USA MILITARY POWER AGAINST THE WORLD...WID 8OO MILITARY BASES AROUND THE ,5000 NUCLEAR WARHEAD POINTING AT ITS ENEMY...CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS TO THE WORLD TOO.

[@mensrea1251]

@@user-ri1up9fu2j Not quite. Canada does cowtow to the whims of Washington, no doubt. But it’s mostly due to potential economic consequences than military coercion. There’s little military threat from the USA under currently realistic scenarios. The prospect of an armed invasion of Canada under current realities would test even the voracious appetite of the American people for blood. It’s not all dichotomous when comparing China and the USA. There are meaningful differences in the political economy of the two countries that dictate how even identical goals and desires are achieved in different ways.

[@gabrielmigliorini3147]

US spend 60% of PIB in military. But the problem is China 4 sure

[@user-ez7ly8fn1s]

we need translate

[@TahirHussain-ez8yu]

China is rising peacefully but US do not want that peaceful rise . Confrontation is what US wants in his historical manner.