LEE HARVEY OSWALD’S Life: Edwin Walker Assassination Attempt (PART 4)

[@zingwilder9989]

The work that you put in to these presentations is notable and worthy of complete respect. Whether one is a believer in conspiracy theories or not, Oswald was an extremely anti-social individual. He was truly a man that was easy to despise. He possessed all the right qualifications to be used as fuel for both sides of the aisle. As a side note, I met a gentleman, several years ago, that was one of the MP's that arrested Gen. Walker at the University of Mississippi in 1962.

[@MMorbid]

Cool! I love meeting and talking to people who lived history. Thanks for watching!

[@donnicholas7552]

Interesting! Look forward to the next video.

[@oktypus-zj8bf]

Will be a new episode on Oswald?

[@MMorbid]

Yes, I’m doing a different topic every other week for those not interested in Oswald because it’s taking a while. Another one will be out this week covering Ruth Paine and New Orleans.

[@oktypus-zj8bf]

@@MMorbid thank you

[@BrianR2395]

Just for the record, Maurice "Nick" McDonald (the police officer who arrested Oswald in the movie theater after the murder of J. D. Tippit) wrote a book published in 2013 in which he recounts conversations he had with Marina Oswald years after the assassination. The two had become acquainted after McDonald retired from police work. According to McDonald, Marina told him that "others" were involved with Oswald in the attempt on Walker, which certainly explains the testimony of 14 year-old Kirk Coleman who witnessed the two cars leaving the church parking lot. If you have never read Coleman's testimony to the Warren Commission, I would strongly recommend you do. His testimony was perfectly credible, but the Commission chose to ignore it, apparently because they didn't want to deal with ANY hint of a conspiracy...even if only in the attempt on Walker's life. The idea that Oswald carried the rifle on board a bus -- along with a shovel -- so that he could bury it somewhere is laughable. It's even more laughable if you leave out the shovel, which he never mentioned using. If you want a detailed scenario of what likely happened outside Walker's house on April 10, 1963 (based on Kirk Coleman's testimony), I would strongly recommend an excellent book, THE ASSASSINATION OF JOHN F. KENNEDY: THE REASONS WHY by Albert Newman (published in 1970). He strongly implies that George DeMohrenschildt assisted Oswald, along with two other individuals whose identities are admittedly unknown. There is, of course, no reliable evidence that Oswald had any assistance in the assassination of JFK.

[@MMorbid]

Interesting, thanks for the detailed comment. I personally don’t believe Oswald was capable of working with others in any capacity. He was antisocial, a narcissist, and fired from most jobs because he couldn’t get along with others. In her elder years Marina has started to believe some really bonkers stuff. At this point I truly think she has convinced herself to believe conspiracy nonsense, literally replacing her own memories with things that didn’t happen. The brain is an amazing thing, and who wants to believe their husband did what he did?Conspiracists so turned her head she actually had Lee disinterred because they convinced her the Soviet government had replaced Lee with a double. Obviously Lee disguised the rifle to get into the book depository. And when there are people without cars, is a working man on a bus with a tool (like a shovel) that unusual? A small garden tool would have been sufficient. It’s not like he was burying a body. He just needed to disguise the rifle. I doubt he dug very deep. As to the car, I’ve never thought much of the car. I see cars I’m not familiar with in my neighborhood all the time and think nothing of it. The car was only noticed because something unusual happened. I don’t think the car had anything to do with it. Oswald just wanted to shoot someone. His motive was pretty much identical to the kid who took a shot at Trump. It was only Trump because he was unlucky enough to be the one to come to town. Walker lived in Dallas, and when that didn’t work out Kennedy was unlucky enough to drive right by the workplace of a psycho who wanted to be infamous (if he couldn’t be famous.) Anyway, that’s just my opinion based on the research I’ve done, which admittedly has mostly been about Kennedy. But again I would very seriously question anything coming from Marina after 1964. Anyway, thank you for engaging in thoughtful discussion. I appreciate intelligent comments so much. So many on this particular topic can be such jerks, you know. Since he was killed we’ll never know for certain and that’s why the conspiracies stay alive. Honestly it was pretty much inevitable the moment Ruby shot him. Take care!

[@BrianR2395]

@@MMorbid Just some quick points. For all his anti-social-ness, Oswald got along famously with DeMohrenschildt. That much was established by the WC and, of course, by the photo found in DeMohrenschildt's belongings in 1967. Shortly before he committed suicide in 1977, DeMohrenschildt told an interviewer that he "felt responsible for Oswald's behavior". Whether or not that means he encouraged Oswald to take a shot at Walker (or actually assisted him in doing so) , we'll never know. But if he did, he apparently felt some guilt at giving Oswald the idea that shooting a political figure with whom he disagreed was justifiable. People forget that Walker and JFK had only one thing in common as far as Oswald was concerned: Their overwhelming desire to see Castro removed from power. And JFK actually tried to do something about it with the CIA plots to assassinate Castro after the Bay of Pigs fiasco. We also know that Oswald worshipped Castro. My own opinion is that Castro and Cuba were the motivations behind his attempts on both Walker and JFK. I don't believe for a moment that his motive in either case was merely a desire to shoot someone. He was a political fanatic for sure, but there's no evidence he was a complete nut case. Finally, Marina had nothing to do with the disinterment of Oswald in 1981, except to give her legal consent for it to be done. The driving force behind it was a British author, Michael Eddowes, who wrote a book claiming what you described.

[@joehaas2190]

Good job!

[@MMorbid]

Thanks!

[@donstaples4812]

So, Oswald missed hitting the sitting still Walker, but then hit a further, moving Kennedy, twice in 8 seconds, while shooting through a tree branch?

[@larsonawitz]

Yes. With his awesome Carcano that he ordered by mail from Chicago because rifles of that quality were too hard to find in Texas.

[@MMorbid]

Those shots are quite different of course, one at night and apparently he missed because Walker moved unexpectedly, so technically he wasn’t sitting still. According to Donald Bellisario, television producer and writer (Quantum Leap, JAG) who met Oswald when they both served, the shot from the depository was not difficult and Oswald was totally capable of it. It was certainly an unobstructed view. I don’t know about the view into Walker’s house but I think he was hiding in trees so it may not have been a clear view. Not having seen it I just don’t know that information.

[@YourTravelStories]

@@MMorbid Impossible shot from the 6th floor.

[@johnaugsburger6192]

​@@YourTravelStoriesIdiot

[@rockintetster]

@@YourTravelStoriesYeah, impossible- three shots less than 50-75 yards from someone who ranked as both a Marksman and Sharpshooter in the U.S. Marines- which means the shooter can consistently hit a target from 200 yards. One missed, one hit close it’s target, the third hit it’s target. By the third shot that target was moving away on a straight line at a very slow rate of speed, virtually a stationary target. All bullets and fragmentations found ballistically traced to the Carcano to the exclusion of all other guns. Please learn the facts before you make ignorant comments. Thank You.

[@alancranford3398]

Your work is underappreciated. The .30-06 used in the M1 Rifle that Oswald fired in basic training is more powerful than the Carcano carbine's 6.5x52mm Italian cartridge. 30-06 has 150 grain 0.308" diameter bullet launched at 2910 feet per second with 2820 foot-pounds energy kzbin.infoeT0KRCvXJ9A 6.5mm Carcano has 162 grain 0.268" bullet launched at 2300 feet per second with 1897 foot-pounds energy en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5%C3%9752mm_Carcano

[@DavidArbuckle-sc8zc]

Oswald or A Heidel bought the rifle in March. Walker was shot at in April. Did he take the gun with him to New Orleans? On the Bus? Obviously, he had to store it somewhere. The obvious choice is Ruth Paine. It was Ruth Paine that drove Marina to Join Oswald in New Orleans. Did she pack the gun in her car? Or did she store it in her garage? Is it plausible that Ruth Paine stored the gun in her garage for 6 months without knowing it was there? Even after the Walker shooting? Is it plausible that she would help get Oswald a job at the book depository knowing that he was a Russian defector and owned a high-powered rifle with a scope and NOT TELL THE FBI OR SECRET SERVICE?

[@davidarbuckle7236]

Oswald was 25 feet away. He missed a stationary target. But he could hit JFK (a moving target) from 220 feet away on a right-to-left trajectory and make a bullet create 7 wounds in two people (5 in Connally) changing direction twice and slowing down between targets. It didn't happen. It is a complete fantasy created by Alan Spector, to explain how Oswald could pull off this impossible task with only 2 bullets.

[@rockintetster]

Oswald fired 3 shots. The first missed. The second entered JFK’s low back of the neck and exited his throat, entered Connolly’s back exited his chest, struck and wounded his arm, then entered his thigh. The third entered the back of JFK’s head and exited the front right, killing him. Multiple studies done by both government and independent media have all concluded that the trajectory of the wounds line up with the positions of the two men as photographed on the Zapruder film. All bullets and fragments were ballistically traced to Oswald’s rifle to the exclusion of all other weapons. No evidence of other bullets, weapons or shooters were ever found. You can choose not to believe this if you so desire, but in shows that you are in denial of hard evidence that you would instead believe the numerous unproven conspiracy theories, most of which contradict each other. I would say that your ability to judge facts against suspicion is quite weak.

[@davidarbuckle7236]

@@rockintetster You are the dream Mark for every Con Artist out there if you actually buy that nonsense. "All Bullets and Fragments Were ballistically traced to Oswald's rifle" is Posner 'lawyer speak' for the most outrageous lie ever told. There is not a single Forensic Expert that agrees with you. "hard Evidence" is hysterical. "unproven conspiracy" theories is Rubbage. The hard evidence and the facts have always conflicted with the Warren Report. That is why they had to Invent the "magic Bullet." That is why they could not recreate the shot in numerous attempts over 6 decades. That is why they had to ditch the original photos of the Sniper's nest because the photos (taken by the FBI and Lt. Day) showed only two spent shells and one unfired bullet. That is why Gerald Ford had the diagram in the autopsy changed to show the bullet entering JFK closer to the neck. That is why the Limo and the body had to be hijacked and taken back to D.C. That is why after 60 years we have 3 Secret Service agents admitting to interfering with Forensic Evidence in the Limo and "cleaning"it in front of Parkland Hospital. Sorry, Pal, you get to wear the tin foil hat. Not me.

[@Thomas-ng8vf]

Lies,

[@calmwins]

amazing work. compelling storytelling. great voice acting as well.

[@MoeLarrycurly1]

Wow

[@davem8836]

Thank you for not buying into any Oswald conspiracy nonsense and keeping to actual facts.

[@MMorbid]

You’re welcome!

[@docastrov9013]

Take the assassination out. LHO is fascinating. Why are 3,000 documents about him still secret? If he did it - why? Even Bugliosi said by 2017 everything would be released. Didn't happen.

[@polarvortex3294]

The comment section is getting pretty feisty!

[@rawbacon]

20 rounds per box for his Carcano, since he only had 4 in the rifle that day it implies he shot a minimum of 16 practice shots. Could have been hundreds but I would say an absolute minimum of 16 since no other rounds were found.

[@jppryer5982]

Look , a LOT has come out about lee and all of the people around him , all of the places .

[@MMorbid]

Meaning what? Conspiracy stuff? In my experience as a researcher conspiracy theories, no matter the topic, are hardly ever backed up by evidence. I am not anti conspiracy so much as pro evidence. If something isn’t backed up by facts or evidence I will not present it on my channel, but I am open to consulting credible sources I should check out if you have suggestions.

[@larsonawitz]

Are Gerald Ford and J. Edgar Hoover credible sources? @@MMorbid​​

[@MMorbid]

@@larsonawitz I was referring mostly to things written by legitimate historians/experts as opposed to the ravings of the tin foil hat types. As a historian, witness accounts are of course valuable but should always be viewed critically and fact checked. How close to the event was the account taken? The more time that passes the less accurate it will be for example. Does the individual have an agenda to be untruthful? Protecting their own reputation for example, either downplaying or exaggerating their role. It should be checked against the accounts of other witnesses to see if they align. I personally wouldn’t believe a thing J Edgar Hoover says. He was one of the most corrupt individuals this country has ever seen. The way he used his position to ruin the lives of people who simply politically disagreed with him makes him extremely untrustworthy in my opinion. Charlie Chaplin and Martin Luther King Jr. come to mind in this regard. I don’t know specifically what information you are referring to by mentioning their names but that is the general rule of thumb when dealing with personal accounts.

[@larsonawitz]

@@MMorbid What sources did you use? Hoover and Ford both played pretty large parts in creating the official government report on the assassination.

[@Wassupwafflez]

All this is lies . My great grandmother is the woman how housed her and he wasn’t like this at all ! Where did you get your information or transcript for these conversations? 😂 all these lies

[@Wassupwafflez]

The gun on display isn’t even the gun he bought . Lee was a fall guy , a patsy . The government didn’t like that he had a Russian wife and lived in Russia

[@MMorbid]

You are correct, that gun isn’t his and the museum is open about that. The real rifle is in the collection of the National Archives in College Park, Maryland. This is a reproduction created so people could see what it looked like since the original rifle is unavailable. No conspiracy here, the 6th floor museum simply doesn’t own it.

[@ClintSutherland-f7i]

love the video and your voice, but very inaccurate overall.

[@MMorbid]

You must be a conspiracist. This comes from the best historians on the subject.

[@ClintSutherland-f7i]

@@MMorbid ok 👍🏻

[@andycummings-music]

​@@ClintSutherland-f7i😅 Is that you, Oliver?

[@81overon]

Excellent video. You put a lot of time into it. I wish you would have put more truth into it. You relied too heavily on Marina. She wasn't a very credible witness.