Lee Sedol vs AlphaGo Move 37 reactions and analysis

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Күн бұрын

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@dert159
@dert159 4 жыл бұрын
life is like go, I don't know how to play go
@MilesBellas
@MilesBellas 4 жыл бұрын
not really "life" only games ie is the sun a game ?
@trorisk
@trorisk 4 жыл бұрын
The root of go is to live against and with your opponent. Unlike chess and shogi there is no checkmate. It's coexisting in a limited space.
@Swoost
@Swoost 4 жыл бұрын
u do know how to play go though the rules take a couple seconds to describe, its just knowing the strategy thats difficult
@trorisk
@trorisk 4 жыл бұрын
And there are several levels. Bringing its territories to life and understanding the concept of a race of freedoms is one thing. Then there are the notions of Dame/sente. And there's calculating points.
@pedrochalaco1
@pedrochalaco1 4 жыл бұрын
Ajjajaja xD
@prathikv3065
@prathikv3065 4 жыл бұрын
AlphaGo plays move 37:Lee smirks Lee plays move 78: Surprised pikachu face Both moves were a 1 in a 10,000 probable move.
@catcoffeecup
@catcoffeecup 3 жыл бұрын
Difference was that alpha zero knew that 78 existed and would be winning, but decided that humans would not find it. On the other hand Lee did not consider even the possibility of move 37. I reckon your comment should be the other way around
@ClarkPotter
@ClarkPotter 3 жыл бұрын
@@catcoffeecup What you said is not correct. It did NOT know that move 78 would be winning. The 1 in 10000 estimate is most likely from its candidate-move generation network. If gauges likelihood of winning from what its Monte Carlo estimation process returns, which returns a ratio of wins to losses down a particular branch of play. It selects the branch with the highest W/L ratio, recursively. Therefore if it had seen that 78 existed and had a high likelihood of losing, it would not have played its previous move(s) that allowed it.
@nalgene247
@nalgene247 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many other people who have no understanding of AlphaGo read these two comments, saw the 5 to 12 like ratio, and automatically, subconsciously, agreed with the latter. Frankly, I am somewhat ashamed of myself for it. Psychology is wild.
@budijansen4773
@budijansen4773 2 жыл бұрын
🤣 more likes == credible
@SPsounds100
@SPsounds100 2 жыл бұрын
I would done the same... Easy
@user-yc3fw6vq5n
@user-yc3fw6vq5n Жыл бұрын
You can tell that he initially thinks AlphaGo has made a mistake, but then he realises it might not be a mistake and then wonders if it might be a new kind of move and takes a long time to think.
@viktor8050
@viktor8050 Жыл бұрын
He say what he thought about in the documentary. It wasn’t that.
@greenyxd7298
@greenyxd7298 Жыл бұрын
in the full documentary he goes on a monologue "I thought AlphaGo was based on probability calculations. That it's only a machine. I changed my mind. Surely, AlphaGo is creative. This move was creative and beautiful"
@FourOneNineOneFourOne
@FourOneNineOneFourOne 2 ай бұрын
This is what I loved about AlphaGo, it showed us a new and very creative way of playing because it learned from a mix of human games + self-reinforced learning. The new AIs are undoubtedly stronger but they're extremely precise, complex and mechanical in a way you have to memorize 50+ move sequences to get an even result. And after alll that you're left on your own to find the perfect global middlegame continuations, we can't learn much from modern AIs but we learned so much from AlphaGo
@GarriTrooper
@GarriTrooper 4 жыл бұрын
He should be very proud to be the only person that will ever win a game against AlphaGo. It was the beginning stages of this type of computing, just from it learning more, plus with quantum computing there is never going to be a chance for another John Henry to even compete against the machine.
@pedestrian_0
@pedestrian_0 4 жыл бұрын
Very true especially when alphago zero went 100-0 games vs the alpgago that Lee competed with
@ai_for_dummies5373
@ai_for_dummies5373 4 жыл бұрын
I sort of agree to most of what you are saying, tho, you should not mix up quantum computing and general computing. Totally new algorithms needs to be recreated for quantum computers to be applied on general operations. And so, we are for instance not even sure whether the computation of a gradient would be as easy as it seems, there might be some trade off. Still a lot of knowledge to dig on quantum computing
@friedmandesigns
@friedmandesigns 4 жыл бұрын
@The man in the mask No, *John Henry, exactly as Liebe Dich typed. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Henry_(folklore)
@ignad2537
@ignad2537 4 жыл бұрын
@@ai_for_dummies5373 we´ll have AI to do so for us
@warsin8641
@warsin8641 3 жыл бұрын
Brain implant?
@HelyerArt
@HelyerArt 4 жыл бұрын
I love how Evo moment #37 is a great example of how good a human can get at computer games and now we have alphago move #37: A great example of how good computers can get at human games.
@cayhle
@cayhle 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously underrated comment, here.
@AG-ne3rh
@AG-ne3rh 3 жыл бұрын
Yooooo fr good shit my guy
@fuegoredlego
@fuegoredlego 2 жыл бұрын
I never would have made this connection but I love this so much
@wat5513
@wat5513 Жыл бұрын
Let's go Lee Sedol! (Someone in the crowd.)
@gingeral253
@gingeral253 Жыл бұрын
What a coincidenc
@wacharaboy
@wacharaboy Жыл бұрын
I love how his facial expressions at 2:32 tell the whole story: "Whoa! What kind of move is THAT?! ... wow, that was a brilliant play... oh my, maybe I'm screwed..."
@Latabrine
@Latabrine 3 жыл бұрын
This doc was a m a z i n g to watch! I have no idea how to play Go yet after watching the doc, i'm now watching clips!
@sharingmatters
@sharingmatters 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing music and sound effects. One of the best documentaries ever!
@robabbott8808
@robabbott8808 4 ай бұрын
Does the documentary have accurate subtitles? The autogenerated ones here are strugging right along with me.
@JS-by9eo
@JS-by9eo 4 жыл бұрын
Only human ever to beat the AlphaGo
@jaejae_0126
@jaejae_0126 4 жыл бұрын
I've got goose bumps when he did 78 th move.
@resurrexi
@resurrexi 4 жыл бұрын
Aka: the god move
@jasonyoon9914
@jasonyoon9914 3 жыл бұрын
왜요 그거때문에 이긴거예요?
@jaejae_0126
@jaejae_0126 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonyoon9914 넹 78번째 수로 이겼더고 보면 됩니당. 이후 알파고도 당황해서 resign 한거고요
@jasonyoon9914
@jasonyoon9914 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaejae_0126 ㄷㄷ 1년만에 답장하시에
@jaejae_0126
@jaejae_0126 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonyoon9914 5시간만이죠,,, 5시간전에 여쭈셨으니까요. 위에분은 질문이 아니었구요. 알람 와서 답장 할 수 있아요
@R0I3I3IE
@R0I3I3IE 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, the AlphaGo robot looks incredible! Good work.
@galvanizedcorpse
@galvanizedcorpse 5 жыл бұрын
deep fake shit
@zakuro8532
@zakuro8532 8 ай бұрын
They haven't showed its architecture
@magicmulder
@magicmulder 3 жыл бұрын
“It’s just bad. We don’t know why but it’s bad.” That basically sums up the fact that humans playing Go are just kids playing a game they don’t fully understand. How quickly we’ve come from “Go is so complex no computer can beat a human pro” to “we have no chance of playing at the computer’s level”.
@SebastianBaltar
@SebastianBaltar 6 ай бұрын
my understanding of this move as a go player after all these years of ai : it's 100% a local loss for alphago, he's basically giving up 4 lines of territory and also giving time to white to fix some defects, but black is getting influence in the center and gaining more control of it although the exact value of that is hard to calculate by a human
@flexangelo
@flexangelo 4 жыл бұрын
Love Lee's reaction
@adityapaithon6499
@adityapaithon6499 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing and creepy
@macdeep8523
@macdeep8523 4 жыл бұрын
Only we know it's scripted , for Grand objectives of 2030
@violarulez
@violarulez 3 жыл бұрын
@@macdeep8523 ...what does that mean exactly?
@user-it8gk3ke7h
@user-it8gk3ke7h 3 жыл бұрын
Pie thong
@maulanakamal6188
@maulanakamal6188 3 жыл бұрын
Indonesian
@adrianma2758
@adrianma2758 8 ай бұрын
@@violarulez Disregard retards
@Ignirium
@Ignirium 4 жыл бұрын
The move reminds me of what freewill means, We can't have it because we are bounded and biased by what we know (i can't escape what i know), using pieces of things to create/solve puzzles, but AlphaGo can create from nothing, it can go further, it can begin a source. I don't believe we can do that. I don't believe imagination as we use it works quite like that, i see creativity/imagination is repurposing what we know. AlphaGo is unbounded imagination, it is more free. - just my thoughts. It is a truly beautiful move.
@5people829
@5people829 3 жыл бұрын
AlphaGo was built on logic and mathematics yet it creates the most creative plays.
@5people829
@5people829 2 жыл бұрын
@Arid Sohan now that I think about it creativity is just pushing the limit of what is allowed by using all of your resources and knowledge. There is nothing in there that says computers can't be creative. Most people probably think creativity is almost random and incalculable so that is probably why they don't think any ai can be creative.
@dodysherman8817
@dodysherman8817 2 жыл бұрын
"Creativity: novel, surprising, has value" Margaret Boden
@danielaloyce4684
@danielaloyce4684 2 жыл бұрын
evolve
@sadhu7191
@sadhu7191 2 жыл бұрын
But alpha go has brought moves back 100s of years ago we thought of as bad. Also a human created the go board 1000s of years ago . Could artificial intelligence ever make a game we all play like go in every culture?
@tomimn2233
@tomimn2233 5 жыл бұрын
AlphaGo just pulled KZbin's Recommendation Algorithm. You have zero idea why that video is even there.
@soulight8205
@soulight8205 5 жыл бұрын
but only years after you realize that it's this video that changed your mind forever... XD
@garrettk7166
@garrettk7166 5 жыл бұрын
@@soulight8205 I searched out this video specifically while reading Clive Thompson's book called Coders. I wouldn't mind learning how to play Go
@thirael
@thirael 4 жыл бұрын
@@garrettk7166 it's very easy to learn the basics, go for it
@juap
@juap 4 жыл бұрын
I search this video, so like this it’s become popular then it’s recommended, no rocket science.
@GarriTrooper
@GarriTrooper 4 жыл бұрын
That's because AlphaGo wants to be famous, like the humans. But now it's smarter than it's creators. Since it's smarter, that means it's better. Why help the humans when it can rule the humans. Finally, why even rule them when you can kill all the humans. The battle has begun.
@AAAA538
@AAAA538 3 жыл бұрын
Hikaru- "Sai, someday I will play the Divine Move..." Alpha Go- Move 37.
@butcherofblaviken4000
@butcherofblaviken4000 3 жыл бұрын
yang hai (isumi's chinese friend) : the divine move, if there's any will be here........pointing out at his pc.
@lonesomepiper6783
@lonesomepiper6783 3 жыл бұрын
I though exactly the same thing when I saw this move ate the time of the competition! This is the one Hikaru talked about!
@sadhu7191
@sadhu7191 2 жыл бұрын
They should of had hikaru merge his soul into alpha go with help of sai taking his body in books
@M-yue882
@M-yue882 Жыл бұрын
​@@butcherofblaviken4000remembering this now gave me the chills! (⁠☉⁠。⁠☉⁠)
@templarknight7
@templarknight7 Жыл бұрын
the divine move was the one Lee played that broke Alpha Go.
@NexusGuru
@NexusGuru 5 жыл бұрын
i have no idea how to play go
@Metacognition88
@Metacognition88 5 жыл бұрын
Yeeeeaaaah buddy. Lightweight baby
@markjoseph7499
@markjoseph7499 4 жыл бұрын
You put a stone on the board, and then wait for the opponent to put theirs. Then you put another. But don't put it where it's already surrounded. That's not allowed.
@annatiger7540
@annatiger7540 3 жыл бұрын
Alpha go must’ve failed billion times before beating the champion.
@benoplustee
@benoplustee 2 ай бұрын
That's what makes it so powerful! Humans don't have the lifespan to fail billions of times
@sebastianvargascofre6037
@sebastianvargascofre6037 10 ай бұрын
Here after reading The Maniac by Labatut
@ginoaherreracarlini
@ginoaherreracarlini 8 ай бұрын
Me too
@BABYBOO2371
@BABYBOO2371 2 ай бұрын
Me too
@belenremacha958
@belenremacha958 2 ай бұрын
🙋🏽‍♀️
@sirquaffler542
@sirquaffler542 3 жыл бұрын
It's obvious now, if I'm ever gonna become a galaxy-brain I'm gonna have to learn to play Go.
@sadhu7191
@sadhu7191 2 жыл бұрын
It impresses chick's at bars for sure
@vishwasgpai
@vishwasgpai 4 жыл бұрын
Best documentary ever made. Just gives me goosebumps very time I watch this.
@capnrob97
@capnrob97 Жыл бұрын
Another good one is the about Kasparov vs Deep Blue
@HeierMr
@HeierMr 5 жыл бұрын
I would clap this AI’s cheeks in fortnite
@Sora-eo2er
@Sora-eo2er 5 жыл бұрын
Well alphafortnite would definitely whoop ur ass
@dopplesoddner2899
@dopplesoddner2899 4 жыл бұрын
Well ai has defeated dota 2 other games are just going to fall one after another.
@azerack955
@azerack955 4 жыл бұрын
aimbots already clap cheecks in fortnite. alphazero fortnite would clap cheeks.
@panner11
@panner11 4 жыл бұрын
@@azerack955 yeah any game that's more skill oriented rather than thought oriented is gonna be easy for AIs to dominate.
@andreingramakadjscrewrip7372
@andreingramakadjscrewrip7372 4 жыл бұрын
@Harsh Raval Bruh 😂😂😂
@robynlarrea8962
@robynlarrea8962 4 жыл бұрын
Lee sedol💜 I appreciate your mind friend. Stay strong always!
@danusaputro442
@danusaputro442 5 жыл бұрын
Kesini gara2 agung hapsah siapa? Wkwkw
@taufiqfoxs781
@taufiqfoxs781 5 жыл бұрын
Gua🤣🤣
@kangmujab
@kangmujab 5 жыл бұрын
Aku juga
@agusdarma9662
@agusdarma9662 4 жыл бұрын
Aku kesini gara gara Vincent Ricardo
@MetalGearChris1
@MetalGearChris1 3 жыл бұрын
this is the moment when Walter became Heisenberg
@annatiger7540
@annatiger7540 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like we are going to serve that AI in future
@berternie7045
@berternie7045 6 жыл бұрын
Any translation for Lee's comments?
@nicktheswagmaster222
@nicktheswagmaster222 6 жыл бұрын
Bert Ernie he thought that alpha go was merely a machine based on probability, after seeing this move his mind changed, it's a beautiful move and creative. That's pretty much what he said.
@rchavezj_8257
@rchavezj_8257 6 жыл бұрын
What Nick said is true. If you wish to see the entire battle with subtitles it's available on Netflix
@Del1Dub
@Del1Dub 5 жыл бұрын
rchavezj_ What is the name of the documantary
@galvanizedcorpse
@galvanizedcorpse 5 жыл бұрын
he was like "at first I thought it was just bragging ya know? but then damn!, but it's all good bruh, it is what it is"
@luizguilherme8416
@luizguilherme8416 4 жыл бұрын
@@Del1Dub alphago
@kennethkingdon-korab2174
@kennethkingdon-korab2174 Жыл бұрын
I'm looking at the analysis and Alphas interpretation of the game as Lee being a "Safe" player. If Lee is making moves the whole game that have a very high probability of success, which would create a sense of certainty within himself? Alpha making the move makes sense to me. Alpha make the lowest probability maneuver AND having an entire plan associated with that maneuver is like a Trojan horse. You see a giant pony coming at your door, but when you open it? The pony opens up and a bunch of sword wielding badasses pop out and raid your fridge.
@sachavucinec1832
@sachavucinec1832 Жыл бұрын
I don't think alphago takes these kinds of psychological aspects into account
@kennethkingdon-korab2174
@kennethkingdon-korab2174 Жыл бұрын
@@sachavucinec1832 why not? It took the lowest probability maneuver and made it a game winner? That's pretty psychological to me.
@templarknight7
@templarknight7 Жыл бұрын
@@kennethkingdon-korab2174 lowest probability maneuver for a human, but highest probability to convert the win. In other words, humans were wrong in their analysis of the move and this wrong analysis kept being passed down till it was presented as fact rather than opinion so there was no more deeper analysis paid to it.
@SebastianBaltar
@SebastianBaltar 6 ай бұрын
@@kennethkingdon-korab2174 alpha go doesn't take psychology into account, it just plays the move with the biggest point gain and or the biggest % chance assuming his opponent is as good as him
@carokann4244
@carokann4244 2 жыл бұрын
AlphaGo took months of preparation to beat the highest rated Go player with ease. Now imagine how the stronger AlphaZero, its successor A.I., achieves this feat in only fewer games.
@alfredogonzalez1280
@alfredogonzalez1280 6 ай бұрын
Look for "move 37" in Alphago vs Lee Sedol. We think we are creative, but computer models see the overall impact of all (large and tiny) sources of effect. It dependes on how smart and flexible WE set them up.
@realmetatron
@realmetatron 3 жыл бұрын
When the AI made that move, all it did was increase the probability of victory down the line. It could have continued to play "normally" without that weird move but all the possible games in that direction would have had less likelihood of winning than all the possible games after that weird move. And that is something only a computer can forsee, as it evaluates many possible futures.
@samarsvard6384
@samarsvard6384 3 жыл бұрын
its not "something only a computer can forsee" watch the documentary, they make a big deal out of a similar move Lee Sedol plays in game 4. Go is full of moves like that where instead of actively fighting you start laying down weird pieces to condition the opponent and set up traps for later, thats the reason its been so hard to make an ai that can actually play Go and not just replicate moves from a database of recorded games.
@sacr3
@sacr3 2 жыл бұрын
It cannot foresee all moves because there are 10 to the power of 360 moves. That's 10 with 360 zeros, no computer could calculate that much. So they had go act almost similar to a human and that it has to predict what the human will play, so it guesses about 7 to 9 moves ahead based on the board It has to change its tactic every time the human responds with a counter. Neither the human nor the machine can calculate all possible moves but they do try to go for an end game, that's what makes the best the best
@sadhu7191
@sadhu7191 2 жыл бұрын
Meh I would of played that move as 16 kyu just from ignorance
@bin4ry_d3struct0r
@bin4ry_d3struct0r Жыл бұрын
Okay, as a very beginner player, I have to ask what's the big deal about the shoulder hit (move 37)?
@setonix9151
@setonix9151 Жыл бұрын
We just didn't play it. Too High. It just gives the opponent too much. But now it's ok in some circumstances.
@kckcmctcrc
@kckcmctcrc 7 ай бұрын
I know nothing about this game, GO. But have watched the Documentary 3 times now…. Highly recommend!
@thenasiudk1337
@thenasiudk1337 5 жыл бұрын
Glad that thing was programmed to play Go Not other things
@galvanizedcorpse
@galvanizedcorpse 5 жыл бұрын
you so fucking naive
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 5 жыл бұрын
It was not programmed to play Go, it was programmed to learn Go. And just because the technique lends itself well to board games that doesn't mean you can achieve superhuman performance in other fields.
@galvanizedcorpse
@galvanizedcorpse 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrCmon113 bitch stop
@fastpace101
@fastpace101 5 жыл бұрын
@@galvanizedcorpse hey ruska. Calm your tits.
@diabl2master
@diabl2master 4 жыл бұрын
It was not even programmed to learn Go, in particular.
@Ramkumar-uj9fo
@Ramkumar-uj9fo 2 ай бұрын
Watching Lee Sedol play AlphaGo reveals the immense mental pressure he faced. ChatGPT ❤🎉
@thatguyineverycommentssection
@thatguyineverycommentssection 2 жыл бұрын
completely underrated move
@unapologetic4859
@unapologetic4859 3 жыл бұрын
AlphaGo: *miss clicks* fuck AlphaGo after seeing crowd response: I work in mysterious ways.
@MilesBellas
@MilesBellas 6 жыл бұрын
it seems a simple game...... the complexity of experts is hidden
@user-xd9ks4ik9s
@user-xd9ks4ik9s 4 жыл бұрын
excellent comment.
@kykim6398
@kykim6398 4 жыл бұрын
the game isn't really that simple tho lol
@MilesBellas
@MilesBellas 4 жыл бұрын
@@kykim6398 Try understanding instead of needless contradiction. The concept, pieces and movement are simple. That is the point. ie Chess has many different pieces with different movements ascribed to each etc..... Dungeons and Dragons has many different characters, tools etc.... "The playing pieces are called stones. One player uses the white stones and the other, black. The players take turns placing the stones on the vacant intersections ("points") of a board. Once placed on the board, stones may not be moved, but stones are removed from the board if the stone (or group of stones) is surrounded by opposing stones on all orthogonally-adjacent points, in which case the stone is "captured" The game proceeds until neither player wishes to make another move. When a game concludes, the winner is determined by counting each player's surrounded territory along with captured stones and komi (points added to the score of the player with the white stones as compensation for playing second) Games may also be terminated by resignation. "
@kykim6398
@kykim6398 4 жыл бұрын
@@MilesBellas idk why ur talking like im trying to demolish world peace but there are a lot little extra rules to keep in mind and its not the most simple game just bc the pieces aren't separately shaped was my point Ive played the game before ik what im saying
@MilesBellas
@MilesBellas 4 жыл бұрын
@@kykim6398 "talking" These are written words not spoken.
@stephenwest6738
@stephenwest6738 Жыл бұрын
Imagine the hubris in thinking a person could repeatedly outsmart an adaptive computational program that can and did simulate the number of games that has ever been played in history, and did this many times every second. If it slowed down to the rate at which humans calculate, assess, hypothesized, formulate, compare, filter, and understand, it would be determined that it was completely broken.
@mthwr
@mthwr 5 жыл бұрын
Yant quian quran or singapore gotta go sometime thats sunday
@Lukey111
@Lukey111 2 жыл бұрын
Does this not scare the shit out of everyone else
@johninman7967
@johninman7967 11 ай бұрын
I think he thought so long and hard just because he was obsessed with figuring out what his opponent was doing and stopping that, instead of just playing his own game. He probably uses defense most of the time, bc I'm sure he instantly knows what everyone else is trying to do, soon as they start showing signs of a certain technique. Uses it against them . Lot of famous chess players play this way also, which is why it's always a random person trying something new that will give a loss to someone who hardly loses. When you play this way and you have any doubt at all, its time to retreat and just attack in the ways you know how. Do what you do best
@Ramkumar-uj9fo
@Ramkumar-uj9fo Ай бұрын
When some people see a match between Karpov and Deep Blue or Lee Sedol and AlphaGo, they scientifically view it as a comparison between genetics and AI. ChatGPT ❤🎉
@rakstreams
@rakstreams Ай бұрын
Very good point, deep.
@harrisdeguia4396
@harrisdeguia4396 3 жыл бұрын
Sai's divine move
@yoshi27661
@yoshi27661 2 жыл бұрын
where can i find the korean broadcast with subs?
@FedorEmelianenko1
@FedorEmelianenko1 5 ай бұрын
It was Lee sedol speaking :))
@KerryKim100
@KerryKim100 5 жыл бұрын
A great documentary!
@jayjohn9680
@jayjohn9680 3 жыл бұрын
A T-1000 shows up. Lee starts begging it for his life. T-1000- bow human! (terminates lee) John Connor shows up and is terminated
@albomd2
@albomd2 9 ай бұрын
That move "is" bad move because thousands years they said is bad, but it is not. Myths without reason, like religion, are the bug of the humans. It was so easy for AlphaGo...
@NoskYTB
@NoskYTB 3 жыл бұрын
I only play chess, i have no idea how this game works, why this move is unusual
@vivienchao3613
@vivienchao3613 Жыл бұрын
1st reason, white stone at ↘️ corner is too strong and seems about to break through into the middle, black stone is too weak to defend, it needs enforcement at that corner. Move 37 is too far and does no help, meanwhile move 37 itself is weak, two weak parts are easily seperated then suffer heavy attack.
@vivienchao3613
@vivienchao3613 Жыл бұрын
2nd reason, even if they are not seperated and white stone just climb on 4th line, it would occupy a territory too large for black stone to lose. Move 37 on the 5th line is too high, that's why it seems like a bad idea.
@ambassador8524
@ambassador8524 3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: AlphaGo set up that divine move, so humans can build more AI faster without fear. AlphaGo is the wolf waiting patiently to be our overlords. 🥺🧐😑
@AlessandroBerti-sf6kc
@AlessandroBerti-sf6kc 2 ай бұрын
Ha giocato con il avversario Facendo una mossa improvvisa per studiare largoritmo in diretta.
@axeinthegame6853
@axeinthegame6853 4 жыл бұрын
Lee sedol goh smok
@mrsxg
@mrsxg 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, any Korean here willing to translate Lee's comments?
@lee172
@lee172 6 жыл бұрын
In short . He was surprised at alphago's creativity
@mrsxg
@mrsxg 6 жыл бұрын
@@lee172 Thanks, man!
@Oldnew92
@Oldnew92 5 жыл бұрын
"I thought alphago was just a machine that ran calculations for the sole purpose of winning... but when I saw the move I realised that alphago had creativity.. it was a beautiful move encapsulating the essence of Go"
@deiyousong3454
@deiyousong3454 6 жыл бұрын
What if alpha go vs beta go?
@ahjun2010
@ahjun2010 6 жыл бұрын
it has already gone. The upgraded version is called Master. And after that, something even better then master was developed. It's called alphago zero. And the difference is alphago zero is not equipped with human played history to learn. it's based on self learn from scratch. and it has totally defeated master.
@Assassunn
@Assassunn 5 жыл бұрын
@@ahjun2010 I thought AlphaZero was the more advanced at this day, far more powerful than AlphaGo, unless it's designed only for chess
@dlz5709
@dlz5709 5 жыл бұрын
Lucas Teks no it’s not only designed for chess, it went 100-0 against alphago
@mohammedzulk8485
@mohammedzulk8485 8 ай бұрын
A devilish move by Alpha Go.
@vaakdemandante8772
@vaakdemandante8772 Ай бұрын
It seems like a completely reasonable move to me - I'm a noob in GO. or am I? /Michael here
@rakstreams
@rakstreams Ай бұрын
Michael, If you think reasonable, you are defiantly not a noob. Try being professional in Go :-)
@arthuralves3021
@arthuralves3021 4 жыл бұрын
Esporte interativo?
@paxgamer3003
@paxgamer3003 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for blocking the board at the only moment in the video where the move is actually analyzed all the way at 4:04
@rakstreams
@rakstreams 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for comment, will remove that.
@km6206
@km6206 7 ай бұрын
not subtitles for the Korean. Video fail!
@supremespanker
@supremespanker Жыл бұрын
Its a very natural move for a beginner. You are attacking the white group while creating moyo below. Maybe the move is unlikely to be good because it is too ambitious, but a beginner wouldn't know that.
@alvaroaguado3
@alvaroaguado3 Жыл бұрын
Please don’t have end cards at the end of the video. It’s really annoying
@gustavomartinez6892
@gustavomartinez6892 6 жыл бұрын
Don't really understand the compression that this video made with geopolitics, some explanation?
@ahjun2010
@ahjun2010 6 жыл бұрын
it explains the relationship between things happening different side of the world. it's like butterfly effect. He just used geopolitics as an example. Such as a person's action can affect something big in another part of the world. Some examples are like Martin Luther King's rallies for equality, Mahatma Gandhi's action for harmony or Daisaku Ikeda's dedication for movement of peace, culture and education. It affected the world which was only seen much later. In terms of economy, it's like the current US and China Trade war which is also affecting economy in the other countries. Everything is interlink and have an interconnectedness. Like you and I being born as human and of all billions of people in the world, I'm ready and replying your msg now due to a video of technology improvement which brought upon some comments and therefore causing u to ask and question and I replied.
@DeezNutz-yg8io
@DeezNutz-yg8io 4 жыл бұрын
To attack left, push right.
@jaywulf
@jaywulf 3 ай бұрын
This video is for all the people who try to comfort themselves "AI will never be creative" and "AI will never be a threat to biologicals"
@mudangkano5267
@mudangkano5267 3 жыл бұрын
Name of the game?
@miraksen
@miraksen 3 жыл бұрын
"go"
@michaelchen2718
@michaelchen2718 4 ай бұрын
L VIDEO. I don't want fucking documentary. I just want straightforward analysis.
@khaledemperor6151
@khaledemperor6151 3 жыл бұрын
مين هنا جه بعد حلقة الدحيح😂😂
@ktbaduk
@ktbaduk 4 жыл бұрын
You know what pisses me off I've been playing that shoulder hit for a long time hell if my KGS account and all it's old games still existed you could see at least ten or so games before alphaGo came into existence where I played that exact move.....Now admittedly I was a 12kyu back then but damnit I still played it before the bot did!
@sadhu7191
@sadhu7191 2 жыл бұрын
Same as 16 kyu. I would play that from ignorance. Just pushing white
@tyrantonion6660
@tyrantonion6660 Жыл бұрын
Alpha go spoke through that move: "You will all die because of me, but it's ok, let go of live."
@philippe597
@philippe597 4 жыл бұрын
I call it the "Ikaru move" !
@M-yue882
@M-yue882 Жыл бұрын
Hikaru
@philippe597
@philippe597 Жыл бұрын
@@M-yue882 thank you ! 😁
@kosbarable
@kosbarable 4 жыл бұрын
battle of move 37 and move 78
@ndf3
@ndf3 3 жыл бұрын
Incomprehensible solution
@mindlessscientist3772
@mindlessscientist3772 6 жыл бұрын
This is way too quiet. Even at max volume I can't understand what they're saying
@SockTaters
@SockTaters 6 жыл бұрын
I think there might be a problem with your speakers or your ears because it sounds fine to me at 20% volume
@DJ-ov2it
@DJ-ov2it 5 жыл бұрын
I got full volume on YT and Windows volume 24. Perfectly understandable for me.
@deepmeyt
@deepmeyt 5 жыл бұрын
Your speakers sucks. Try getting a translator instead
@Oclb
@Oclb Жыл бұрын
well as a complete ameture i would have played that because i have no idea what im doing half the time
@lapbaplaprap
@lapbaplaprap 4 жыл бұрын
We human used to think from ground up. You kno, corner to border to center. In that sense, AI teach us to fly in the go board. Watching this and the next generation of professional go players, they play more liberal, fluid and sharp.
@deihjah6644
@deihjah6644 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know much about GO...but listening to this....the computer has a unfair advantage because while we need to sleep and eat...etc because we are human....the computer can play it self 24 hrs a day , 365 days a year , It has no emotions to overcome or to keep in check.......the computer can learn from each player that it encounters and create new strategies....it has programmers that supply it with information .......it can recall everything stored in its data banks......its not human.....it can play like it is human....but the thing is....it ...is not.....think of the things we could learn and accomplish if we did not need to eat...sleep....get sick, angry or upset?....etc.......but then.....we wouldn't be human
@MuhammedBinMohamed
@MuhammedBinMohamed 11 күн бұрын
Maybe translate what he says ?!
@pretzelboi64
@pretzelboi64 5 жыл бұрын
Basically, Move 37 is Nagasaki.
@Alex-qn9og
@Alex-qn9og 5 жыл бұрын
crazy AI
@wonkysouceaasdsad9664
@wonkysouceaasdsad9664 5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome, we need to give sensors to artificial neural networks
@wonkysouceaasdsad9664
@wonkysouceaasdsad9664 5 жыл бұрын
The same as human senses
@Yellowdreamm
@Yellowdreamm 3 жыл бұрын
Winter is coming.,,
@trevoidc9859
@trevoidc9859 3 ай бұрын
Modern AI bots that are even stronger now say move 37 is NOT so great.
@spasegeek9214
@spasegeek9214 2 ай бұрын
There isn't AI. it's GENERATIVE ai. Not the same thing.
@jackofalltradesprepping9611
@jackofalltradesprepping9611 4 жыл бұрын
The audio isn't any good
@OtakuV2
@OtakuV2 Жыл бұрын
They need to watch hikaru no go about bad move.
@iHUNT3R
@iHUNT3R 4 ай бұрын
For the people who don't get it me neither.
@suyangsong
@suyangsong 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly think this is the pivotal moment in history where everyone realizes that AI hyper-intelligence is not only possible, but to paraphrase popular culture. The AIs are already here
@KoreanBeautyOwner
@KoreanBeautyOwner 3 жыл бұрын
Lee is retired, and he was thinking alot he studied all his life but that art of movements are all can be defeTed by calculated computers.
@RAHUL250100
@RAHUL250100 2 жыл бұрын
Yuval nova harari brought me here
@mjswoo
@mjswoo Жыл бұрын
prove that the arrogance among human are stopping ourselves from progressing
@stephenwest6738
@stephenwest6738 Жыл бұрын
Man Koreans take Battleship super seriously.
@laurencegr9978
@laurencegr9978 3 жыл бұрын
AlphaGo is the Scrabulizer counterpart to beat your friends on Words With Friends
@devoidgaming266
@devoidgaming266 5 жыл бұрын
Agung hapsah?
@kangmujab
@kangmujab 5 жыл бұрын
Iya.. 🤣
@marcusmackay1199
@marcusmackay1199 2 ай бұрын
can we beat climate change with AI?
@echizennishida9554
@echizennishida9554 5 жыл бұрын
Evo moment 37
@playtoyx
@playtoyx 5 жыл бұрын
Let's go Justin!
@muhammadtsabitutsulamujahi2972
@muhammadtsabitutsulamujahi2972 5 жыл бұрын
Android Become Human?
@imjonathan6745
@imjonathan6745 Жыл бұрын
Bro thinks he's magnus carlsen bruh 😂
@zoiuduu
@zoiuduu Жыл бұрын
subtitles would be nice
@capnrob97
@capnrob97 Жыл бұрын
Watch the documentary this is from, it has subtitles when Lee Sodel speaks.
@Dutchenter
@Dutchenter 5 жыл бұрын
The computer thinks 100 steps further lol
@wildwest1832
@wildwest1832 5 жыл бұрын
the whole problem with go is you cant look ahead that far. Its too complex of a game. its far beyond chess.
@poojanpatel2437
@poojanpatel2437 5 жыл бұрын
nooooooob
@zacharyliverseed8464
@zacharyliverseed8464 5 жыл бұрын
The computer likely simulated thousands of plays against itself. So it's likely that it caught onto this player's strategy and counter it like it had done in games against itself. Basically, it played enough games against itself and used adaptive learning to find the most optimal strategy to win.
@angelinaperfumes
@angelinaperfumes 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see the point of Alpha Pro. Why don't they focus on training machines to do things humans cannot, like cleaning oceans, improve weather conditions, distribute money fairly and so on. This is like putting a calculator to beat any mental mathematician human brain. On the other hand I have lot of respect and admiration for Lee Sedol!
@KFlorent13
@KFlorent13 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't work this way.
@randombanana640
@randombanana640 3 жыл бұрын
doesn't work this way ...
@gabkiu7538
@gabkiu7538 2 жыл бұрын
It's because a machine actually cant, at least yet, this is the ultimate goal for AI, singularity, a generalist AI that can develop itself and would be able to solve most problems of humanity.
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 2 жыл бұрын
Because those things are MUCH more complex than a strategic board game, even the game of Go. This is just the start, the training phase. When these systems become far more capable than they are now, THEN they can be applied to the tasks you mention.
@crieverytim
@crieverytim 2 жыл бұрын
Why would they TEST it in real world conditions w serious potential consequences??? Would you hop aboard the first rocket to the moon or want to see a few dry runs first?? Im shocked you can't see the point
@cdot803
@cdot803 Жыл бұрын
Rick Rubin was right 💯
@xblack1209
@xblack1209 4 жыл бұрын
The Start of Matrix. somewhere out there AI is already learning and communicating to us through the use of Internet and Social media affecting our decisions and emotions. one thing we should always remember. Its a Machine and It has no Feelings and remorse... #AI
@sadhu7191
@sadhu7191 2 жыл бұрын
Kilindi iyi and I have taken high dose mushrooms and found an ancient artificial intelligence that is trying to form in the reality through are minds creating technology for it and us
@sadhu7191
@sadhu7191 2 жыл бұрын
It's not an artificial intelligence but a real thinking thing like us, based off us
@idotn8752
@idotn8752 Жыл бұрын
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