Lee Strobel The Case for Christ

[@charlottehurd5221]

I appreciate this mans intelligence, he is very thorough in his investigation. To change from a staunch unbeliever, to a person who has looked at all reasons to disprove this case, then becomes a believer, well said. FACTS ARE FACTS, no matter if you believe or not.

[@ianyboo]

If only he had presented facts, then we might get somewhere. He's using the stories in the bible as evidence for... the stories in the bible. It's so obviously circular that it's hard to even comment on without sounding condescending. An empty tomb? Yes we get that the story says the tomb was empty... so what? In the Harry Potter books there were many eye witnesses to the Dark Mark being in the sky during the attack on after the Quiddich tournament game. Does that mean it actually happened? Of course not... It's a story... in a book... Lee is having trouble separating fact from fiction.

[@MC473428]

You've obviously never read his book. It is, at best, pathetic excuse for journalism, at worst a self-serving ploy to make money off of people like you who believe the lies he invents to try and justify his faulty logic.

[@charlottehurd5221]

I am sorry for those people who don't believe, so very sorry.

[@ianyboo]

charlotte Hurd why do you think it is that people don't believe?

[@charlottehurd5221]

Because their heart is hardened by sin, and the evil one has blinded the eyes of the unbelieving, so that they should not know God. God is real and He is wonderful.

[@chiemelachike2783]

Wow! I'm speechless! Thank GOD for Lee Strobel's life. Lord, reveal yourself to as many who doubt your existence. Amen

[@ianyboo]

Why doesn't your god just reveal himself to everyone?

[@ianyboo]

Jessica Rodriguez do you think Satan has free will?

[@ianyboo]

Jessica Rodriguez​ okay then obviously your god can reveal himself to someone without that individual losing their free will. Which brings me back to the original question, why doesn't your god himself to everyone?

[@ianyboo]

Jessica Rodriguez​ let me explain a bit more. Let's assume for a moment that your god is real and wants people to know he is real. The best way to do that would be to introduce himself to people on an individual level. You said that he can't do that because it would take away our free will, but that can't be true since you also think that Satan has free will even after your god revealed himself to Satan. Satan was still free to disagree and rebel against your god even though Satan was 100% certain that your god was real. So... Why are we not all 100% certain that your god is real? He could appear to me this instant and clear up the confusion about his existence if he was real. If he's not real then it would make perfect sense why he does not appear to me.

[@ianyboo]

Jessica Rodriguez​ so Satan gave his heart and life to god without question and only then god revealed himself to Satan?

[@Kurohitsuji365]

Incredible is to still find people who not believe and treasure these truths. But... “For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.” 🙌

[@Uke4Jesus]

I absolutely love this guy! The movie and book are awesome. I pray for my husband, he was just diagnosed with throat cancer. He believes, but doesn't read the bible, curses, and won't go to church.

[@heavnxbound]

How’s it going now?

[@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820]

I thought belief was all that mattered? John 3:16 and all. Course I’m an atheist and all, so I don’t believe this stuff, but I’m just saying. If God condemned everyone who cursed or didn’t go to church (which many Christians don’t do), there’d be nobody in heaven

[@scottenglefield9852]

@@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820 I didn't believe for 37 years never heard the Gospel of Christ, went on a persuit for TRUTH, last bloke on earth who would believe this rubbish religious rubbish.... Then had an encounter with Jesus and learnt very quickly that religious people hated Jesus he is who he said he is.. I don't force Jesus on anyone but it is and was the most powerful the most perfect, most beautiful thing by a mile when The Holy Spirit filled me from Heaven. All Glory to Jesus Christ he loves you and wants you to know him personally but will never force anyone as love can not be forced. Free will Choose life Jesus said I am the way the Truth and The Life. God incarnate he loves you Billy and knows every thing you have ever done, he wants to give you supernatural peace that surpasses all understanding. I hope you experience more than I have in 4 years walking with Jesus it's mind blowing. He's the creator of the universe and his presence is life changing 🙏 May God bless you and show you he is real

[@Sunny-xq1tn]

Fantastic Testimony!! Thank you for sharing your story. May God continue to bless you and your family sir🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@ChildoftheKing23]

He is risen!!!!! Praise the precious name of Jesus Christ!!!

[@evelynrespass5385]

Amen!!!!

[@ericday4505]

The thing that I like about Lee, is his honesty, if a person can begin, with honesty that is the perfect starting point, if you are honest in your seeking and honest with yourself you will find, simply. If you hold on to what your professor told you or your father, then you will not find. Try very hard to go in without bias, it is hard, but try. If you can great but try and you will find the truth. Jesus was raised, he is Lord.

[@ericday4505]

WreckNRepeat I found Lee to be forthright. I did not know him as an atheist. So that would be dishonest of me to say for sure what I think he thought. But you obviously knew him and formed your opinion. Right.

[@ericday4505]

WreckNRepeat So in all due respect I should consider your opinion as one that is biased. And you know the thought of every atheist . I say biased because like me you didnt know him but because he is no longer thinking as you do he is dishonest. That is not fair.

[@ericday4505]

WreckNRepeat​ Yo all we can do is take a person at their word. I dont know Lee personally but the guy seems to love the Lord. Maybe he just wasnt that intunded to the nuances of evolution like a lot of people who just buy those lies. Also it is really funny how you hear that evolution doesnt explain origins of life, but at a time they most certainly did try and explain origins. Until enough people realised that they were not even realistic. Hey maybe you have something but I will say the guy is on the correct side now.

[@ericday4505]

WreckNRepeat Dude there were definatly people saying that evolution explained origins. I dont know how old you are but that is a fact.

[@ericday4505]

WreckNRepeat That is now but they indeed DID try to prove this.

[@ryanchandler5538]

It is sad that more Atheists can't give up their pride and go through a similar journey of honest seeking and humble surrender to the truth!! Lee Strobel is a true testament to the transforming power of the Gospel! Praise Jesus!!!

[@jinn_1891]

Ryan Chandler confirmation bias. there are also many who are becoming atheists.....but I guess you forgot that part....

[@PaTRpU99]

+Feder Schwert you said that life is meaningless...

[@omgz8876]

The God of monotheism is clearly an atheist highlighted by the the 10 simple rules which just so happens to declare Jesus as a heretic at number 2. (You shall not make for yourself any idol, nor bow down to it or worship it. -there is no exclusion there) Nobody even went by that name, this is the first crumbling of your truth. Yeshua Ben Pantera was a priest born out of wedlock because his mother fell in love with the a roman solider named Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera of Sidon, Pheonicia. Later sent to nowadays Germany for the remainder of his years. Bottom line Yeshua was a jew, so upon request with the jews to explain themselves, it turns out they dont even title him as a messiah/prophet because they had Malachi, promoting peaceful outcomes while Yeshua basically promoted war to end all wars in the form of an apocalypse. The end game goal or grand design plan of jesus is the apocalypse, ya may aswell just call for a nuclear holocaust while bowing and worshipping from your idol, at which you were warned directly! by your figurehead during the first encounter with suchness. The house of christos is the most degenerate house in all of judea, the funniest thing about it all, nobody needs a high I.Q to see that disastrous functional value. As for secrets and truth; you cannot hide anything from society, eventually someone will always see past your Clark Kent glasses. Whats more troubling about the myth, the fact that jesus never asked you if it was ok for him to die for your fathers sins, or thats ok to turn your world upsidedown through a colossal war seeing billions dead. I gotta say, these arnt the actions of greatness, godliness or efforts toward self progression for the current collective. But like i said, directly from the source; You shall have no other Gods but me.You shall not make for yourself any idol, nor bow down to it or worship it. Bye bye jesus, hello atheist God. As far as i can tell, Jesus claimed he was a God, failed the test, at which point his friends tried to cover up the failure utilizing pure unadulterated metaphysics stolen from Platonism. (propaganda) But hey.. what do i know, im just sad atheist, full of pride, unable to humbly surrender probably due to my Spartan knees. Still better than trusting a 2000 year old story of 2nd comings and hammurabi code laws bastardized into batshit fuckery as it sits in direct conflict with the first encounter through such contact, amid the doom of the end of the world. Indians walk across sand-bars all the time, an aryan-phoenician does it for the fist time and somehow thats a miracle? Dont waste my time.

[@yakojjy]

Faith is belief without evidence.

[@mesanto1977]

Wilbur Jenkins according to you. That isn't what scripture says and not what I believe .

[@me3ko07]

Truth isn't relative. Truth is TRUTH.

[@annan5853]

WreckNRepeat oh you only wish.

[@sandykramer1660]

@ WreckNRepeat: "the Bible is a work of fiction written and inspired by men." Only in your particular multiverse. Not in mine. Don't argue with a solipsist.

[@lz56able]

Amen! The deeper the look, the more you will cut through the lies and get to the truth. Unfortunately, journalism now is a complete partisan joke, and guys like Lee are hard to find.

[@JustBree716]

WreckNRepeat well that goes for history all together then. U must not believe history. Lol.

[@charlitoadams777]

@@annan5853 A list of 120 recorded authors from 100 BCE CE TO 100 CE That wrote about everything around them that was note worthy. But not .....ONE..... of them mentions a water walking, Demon exorcising, death defying, son of a God called Jesus. ZERO words in total. Complete Historical silence from contemporary authors. Just deafening Historical silence from the vastness of Human history. Scroll SLOWLY through, and read the individual names, you may recognize many of these names. Just to give you and understanding of how many curious Human minds completely missed the ' greatest event ' in Human History (supposedly). :1st-century writers - A Aelius Promotus Aelius Theon Aemilius Asper Mamercus Aemilius Scaurus Alexander of Myndus Alexander Philalethes Alphius Avitus Marcus Antistius Labeo Antonius Rufus Apollonius the Sophist Paul the Apostle Archelaus of Cappadocia Aristoxenus Agrippa the Skeptic Alexander of Aegae Alexicrates Ammonius of Athens Apollonius of Syria Apollonius of Tyana Aristo of Alexandria Aristocles of Messene Attalus B Barnabas Bianor Aufidius Bassus Caesius Bassus Saleius Bassus C Caecilius of Calacte Gaius Cassius Longinus (consul AD 30) Aulus Cornelius Celsus Columella Dio Chrysostom Claudius Quintus Curtius Rufus Chaeremon of Alexandria Titus Calpurnius Siculus Publius Clodius Thrasea Paetus Lucius Annaeus Cornutus D Damis Damocrates Demosthenes Philalethes Aulus Didius Gallus Fabricius Veiento Pedanius Dioscorides Demetrius the Cynic E Publius Egnatius Celer Epictetus F Fabius Rusticus Frontinus Gaius Valerius Flaccus G Gnaeus Cornelius Gunadhya Lentulus Gaetulicus H Heliodorus Heraclitus Herennius Senecio Hero of Alexandria Gaius Julius Hyginus J Josephus John of Patmos Julia Balbilla Justus of Tiberias Juvenal L Livy Titus Labienus Lollius Bassus Lucan Lucilius Junior M Marcus Manilius Marcus Cluvius Rufus Mara bar Serapion Martial Curiatius Maternus Mucianus Valerius Maximus Memnon of Heraclea Moderatus of Gades Mucianus N Nicias of Nicaea Nicarchus Nicolaus of Damascus Nicomachus Bruttedius Niger O Ovid Olympicus Onasander P Plutarch Pamphile of Epidaurus Pamphilus of Alexandria Petronius Proculus Pamphile of Epidaurus Asconius Pedianus Paconius Agrippinus Papirius Fabianus Albinovanus Pedo Clutorius Priscus Philippus of Thessalonica Proclus Mallotes R Arulenus Rusticus Gaius Musonius Rufus Rufus of Ephesus Q Quintilian Quintus Sulpicius Camerinus S Seneca the Elder Seneca the Younger Masurius Sabinus Scribonius Largus Pomponius Secundus Claudia Severa Sulpicia Silius Italicus Statius Sotion Euphrates the Stoic Servilius Nonianus T Tacitus Thallus V Marcus Valerius Probus Marcus Velleius Paterculus The first mentions of a Biblical Jesus were from AT LEAST 55 years after his supposed death. This would be like Historians not writing ONE WORD about World War 2 for 55 years. 1945 to 2000 not ONE recorded word about WW 2, as if it never happened ? 0 to 55 CE not ONE recorded word about Biblical Jesus, as if it never happened ? No notable events that were ' out of the ordinary ' to record ? Totally unbelievable claims ! If religious Apologetics can explain away complete historical silence for 55 years. Then they can explain the Moon, stars and planets, right out of the sky ! And pretend that the ocean tides do not rise & fall. Take care my fellow truth seeker. Many seek the truth. But FEW have the courage to follow were it leads them Leonardo Da Vinci

[@dibarra5461]

Brothers and sisters, please, even if there's people who spit on our beliefs. We must not act with anger and hatred towards them. They are still humans, and they all deserve love and kindness. That's the whole idea of what we have been taught. We must be expanders of love, not anger and disrespect. And to all of you who are trading this, but don't believe un God, I love you and He loves you. Have a very nice day! :D

[@rstevewarmorycom]

David Ibarra Ain't no "he", dumbass!

[@batboy020876]

David Ibarra oh would you shut up

[@stewiegriffin1723]

Just ask the Amalakites and first born Egyptians about Gods love 😄

[@yeshuaislord3058]

Praise YAH!!!! Your absolutely right !!!! Yeshua changes us and we are called to show that love not just speak of it

[@yeshuaislord3058]

@@stewiegriffin1723 everything God does is exactly as it should be.evil people turn from him and commit horrible evils and they experience his wrath. He gives us the choice to follow or obey him.sadly many choose to go astray. I see this type of thing everyday and it is normal to question these things. But remember God is not a human.he is beyond our comprehension. He is perfectly just.his love is infinite and so is his wrath.that's why we need messiah Yeshua.Yeshua saves us from the wrath by taking the punishment of our sins.Yeshua loves you

[@basedxrp]

Lee's story has touched my heart on a very deep level. Praise the LORD.

[@dianeb7902]

So Beautiful. God makes us new and Beautiful

[@lindinle]

gotta love how movies like this are nothing more than ego masturbatory material for christians.

[@randypacchioli2933]

I thank God for Lee Strobel and his ministry. God has used him to accomplish great things. His books have been a tremendous source of blessing that have led unbelievers to Christ and strengthened Christians in the faith. You are the modern day Josh McDowell.

[@frc744]

I think the testimony of Mr. Strobel speaks louder than any of the negative youtube comments against his work.

[@lindinle]

i dont have to look at his work to know that he is full of shit.

[@merranthompson9096]

Off course he does I have just had a huge Revelation today that proves Gods existence is undeniable he protects those we love through dedicated and unwaivering Faith and prayer and OK it was a small piece of evidence but it was big enough for me. There is a God!

[@lindinle]

tell that to my kin in puerto rico that were killed in the hurricane. what about them? so it must be asked, how the fuck is it "undeniable".

[@rstevewarmorycom]

Carlos Rodriguez-Fernandez And THAT means you're a helpless idiot.

[@teresadecintiartgallery2840]

Great book! What a beautiful testimony! And to know God and Jesus and Holy Spirit are one, and is real❤

[@jairuskent439]

I heard this guys speak a while ago and he was great. At SCHOOL I heard an argument about why people dont easily discredit Jesus. It holds a lot of truth and the information we used came from sources other than the Bible. I dont go to a Christian school so seeing that taught to me showed that it is more possible to prove this than disprove it. Many counter arguments to christianity can quickly be disputed. BTW when I mention christianity I am talking about Jesus dying and coming back to life.

[@OccultThinkTank]

+Jairus Kent Jesus dying and coming back to life doesn't mean shit! I can't stress it enough. It Means Nothing! This is so stupid no wonder Christians think it is gold! it is an absolute Turd!

[@jairuskent439]

Occult Think Tank Let me explain. Prophecies sadi everything jesus would do and he fullfilled them. He said he would die and come back from the dead in 3 days and he did. Someone doesnt die, get burried in a tomb, and then miraculously come back unless they are the son of god or an illusionist, but jesus couldnt have been an illusionist. What do you not understand?

[@OccultThinkTank]

Jairus Kent *"Prophecies sadi everything jesus would do and he fullfilled them."* ROFLMAO! Not even Once! The Messiah was to *End All War!* Isaiah 2:4 *And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.* Obviously Jesus didn't do that! So that alone Proves He isn't the Messiah! *"He said he would die and come back from the dead in 3 days and he did."* LMFAO! So What! That was *NOT* a Criteria for Messiah! In Fact *IT IS WRITTEN!* *And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree:* *His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God;) that thy land be not defiled, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.* Deuteronomy 21:22 - 23! NOTE Moron *(for he that is hanged is accursed of God;)* Plus *No One Can Pay for the Sins of Another!* Deuteronomy 24:16 *The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.* Psalms 49:7 *None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him* This one is really Huge as it completely Debunks Matthew 20:28 & Mark 10:45 *Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.* Absolute BULLSHIT! I know Christians are STUPID so here it is Again! Psalms 49:7 *None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him* *"then miraculously come back unless they are the son of god or an illusionist,"* LMFAO! No Stupid Jesus said Those that Believe on him *SHALL DO HIS WORKS!* John 14:12 *Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.* Plus there are *LOTS* of sons of God in the bible! Genesis 6:2, 6:4, Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7 Daniel 3:25 None of whom are Jesus! *"What do you not understand?"* That would be your inability to *READ* is what I don't understand. For Fucks Sake Moron Exodus 12:1 - 14 *THE PASSOVER* was Never about Sin or Forgiveness! It was about the God *NOT MURDERING BABIES!* Seriously, Think of how our society would be if the Christian ideas were made into how our courts worked! Someone go to court for Murder, Rape, Child Molesting, etc all they'd have to say is *I Believe Jesus Died for Me!* Then the Judge say *OK YOU ARE FREE TO GO!* What would that do to our society? Can you answer that?

[@sabin1166]

The God of the bible is a cosmic thug.

[@rstevewarmorycom]

Jairus Kent You're fatuous and easily fooled. Apologists lie like shits.

[@LexiGolenya]

the end made me cry

[@MrKilopapa]

Lexi G then you're a fool. Try reading something besides the fundamentalist bullshit of people like Lee Strobel.

[@jke9753]

Contra Bullshit Bitter.

[@OldLint]

Your cursing is evidence of the sinful nature. God isn't going way and Christians aren't going away because it upsets you and so you decide to use harsh language to berate everybody. The joy you get from cursing is short-lived and empty. The joy in Christ is eternal. You can never find eternal life and peace by following after sinful fulfillment. Peace to you and may God, the Lord Jesus, have mercy and open your eyes to the truth. God bless.

[@MrKilopapa]

HisRedeemed Hey gomer, hell and ass are in the bible! And if 'fuck' had been around in ancient times, Jesus would've thrown a few in from time to time.....particularly when talking about Mary Magdalene!

[@OldLint]

+Contra Now you will see the power of God in your life. Know it is from Him to you.

[@PAJO9244]

I burst into tears too, wow, such a powerful message! Praying for my husband, his view is so much like Lee Strobel's before coming to Christ...

[@actingfan11]

Ania Yousefian Any updates?

[@orpheus1138]

Ania Yousefian why marry someone like that

[@interrobang5785]

I'm an atheist and I should say I appreciate the way he did this. Very respectable.

[@Sugarshane88]

How are you still atheist

[@mommom6637]

This man is amazing. His life was difficult,He was given to us from God,a true gift from Him. All Glory to God.!!!

[@kateytill1854]

I've read some of the comments of people that seem upset about or maybe just have questions about his tactics. I thought I'd write down a few of my observations from the presentation to maybe help out. I know it's not sitting well with some that he used the Bible. I think it's important to remember that he mentioned in the beginning of the video that he felt compelled to use the Bible as historical documents, NOT as inspired by God, because he did not believe it to be the word of God. He was then able to find other evidence outside of the Bible that backed up the claims the Bible made, including the existence of Jesus. He said that is an indisputable fact across the scholarly field (and then he gave sources to back it up, not just ancient sources.) He also used modern day techniques in his research, not to prove anything but to actually disprove; such as the psychiatrist who explained hallucinations. He did not mention if the doctor was Christian or not, so we cannot assume bias; only that the doctor helped point out some facts. Also I think it's important to point out that he wasn't a Christian until after he sat down to analyze and assess the information he gathered until the very end. He still claimed to be Atheist up until the point he laid out the evidence and summarized it. Just a few things to keep in mind while sifting through what he said.

[@JoshuaFreakyVenomFan]

Very interesting

[@gavinsan9843]

The doctor was an atheist as well

[@ramigilneas9274]

Katey Till And in reality he only interviewed Christian Apologists and uncritically accepted every word they tell him without even talking to actual historians with a different view.😂

[@MsElleDluv]

i thought of a 5th 'e'- everlasting. The story has not changed for over 2000 years nor has ever faded away...

[@MC473428]

+ElleD Unfortunately, that's hardly evidence. 2000 years isn't forever. Not to mention the fact that the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Illiad haven't changed in 4000 years and 3000 years respectively. These stories haven't changed or faded away either. Does that give them credence?

[@MsElleDluv]

+MC473428 never heard of those so i have no idea who you are talking about. i can tell you God has worked some amazing and miraculous things in my life that made me a believer 100%. a few witnessed some things here and there but there is really never enough evidence for a non-believer until something happens that impacts them

[@MC473428]

ElleD Epic of Gilgamesh, maybe... but you've never heard of the Iliad? Seriously? The Odyssey ring any bells?

[@deanbarlow8176]

+ElleD resource

[@KellyBezz]

ElleK good one! His Kingdom will be an everlasting Kingdom through all eternity! So even in that way it’s everlasting! ✞

[@aybanpali]

“Believing in God, or not believing in God... either way takes a leap of faith.”

[@rstevewarmorycom]

Ivan Paligutan No, moron, not believing takes a "leap" of logic and evidence.

[@burly636]

TRUE!!!

[@nikostjohn]

Thank you so much for posting this valuable message.

[@lindinle]

this isnt really valuable. the dopey fuck uses the bible to prove the bible.

[@nikostjohn]

That's correct. The Bible is the foundation for everything. It's historicity is attested by countless scholars worldwide, including atheist scholars. It is a message from outside space-time and therefore objective. I understand you are accusing him of circular reasoning, which is rich coming from the atheist camp, who've been trying to convince us for years that something came from nothing. Atheists, predictably and consistently, unwittingly use biblical morality to argue against the Bible. Oh the irony. It's like breathing air while arguing against the existence of air. Try again bro.

[@lindinle]

look. i can already tell your not well educated because you use the bogus "atheists believe everything came from nothing" chessnut. all that tells me is that you have no fucking idea exactly what the big bang theory is. Also you say "biblical morality" as if all laws for everywhere came from the bible, which makes me laugh my ass off. no they didnt. places had laws for a long ass time, most of them were the same actually. dont steal, murder. simple shit like that, really. so please continue to spew out shit like a broken sewage pipe in the vain attempt to try and prove your bible correct.

[@nikostjohn]

"I can already tell your not well educated." Says the guy who can only communicate in four-letter words. Peace out.

[@lindinle]

Contagious Media the number of letters in the words dont matter. Its the message they convey.

[@darrellb9665]

The late jurisprudential prodigy and international statesman Sir Lionel Luckhoo (of The Guinness Book of World Records fame for his unprecedented 245 consecutive defense murder trial acquittals) epitomized Christian enthusiasm and confidence in the strength of the case for the resurrection when he wrote, “I have spent more than 42 years as a defense trial lawyer appearing in many parts of the world and am still in active practice. I have been fortunate to secure a number of successes in jury trials and I say unequivocally the evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ is so overwhelming that it compels acceptance by proof which leaves absolutely no room for doubt.”

[@darrellb9665]

WreckNRepeat Your saying that his research institute trustworthy because, he defends people charged with crimes. If so I reject that premise on the grounds that defending those who are *charged* with a crime hardly demonstrates bad character. I suggested that his experience with evaluating evidence and conclusion gave him credentials. But if that's not interesting for you perhaps you should listen to another atheists turned skeptic named J Warner Wallace. He is a cold case detective.

[@darrellb9665]

WreckNRepeat Well Sean McDowell has a presentation on the reliability of Scripture and I haven't finished taking notes yet so i couldn't quite explain it to detail but you might be interested. David C. Pack has created videos regarding the existence of God. I'm still working on the breakdown for that to though and he talks a mile a minute. I m only on video 3. Sorry not to have anything in hand but those are my suggestions.

[@darrellb9665]

WreckNRepeat Have you read his book or just watched the 50 minute summary that hardly talks in depth about it?

[@darrellb9665]

WreckNRepeat i disagree however maybe the others i mentioned may interest you such as j Warner Wallace,Josh McDowell and J Warner Wallace. David c pack has videos on the existence of god. The fine tuning discussed in the first 2 videos are amazing.

[@darrellb9665]

WreckNRepeat Would you mind explaining some of those to me?

[@pantheratigris79]

Lee Strobel is brilliant! God bless you all!

[@Leolioness44]

Lee was a beautiful story of how Yahweh Yahshua loves us all enough to follow thru to the FINISH and never letting you go to show the world the truth. saw the movie tonight and crying with eminence Joy

[@Leolioness44]

Ian G obey

[@Leolioness44]

Ian G but.... seeing how one of the top 10 commandments (of many more not mentioned in the bible) Thou shalt not kill

[@ianyboo]

Annette Herrera so you're saying that it's wrong to kill children except for some specific cases where it is not wrong to kill them?

[@Leolioness44]

I don't think he would ask that. So you might have to question your source. should 1st start with the commandments

[@Leolioness44]

Ian G I think you should speak to a qualified counselor about your dilemma

[@Vincent-fy5pk]

Wow! I have a question for all the non-believers and atheist leaving comments about this video. If you are so convinced that Jesus isn't real....why are you all on KZbin watching these videos in the first place? Pro. 1:21 - How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge? Don't you understand....there is NO absolute PROOF. God requires believers to have faith. And once this faith is evident to the Him, then HE gives you all the proof you will ever need. It's indescribably awesome!!!!!!

[@ExtantFrodo2]

*"God requires believers to have faith."* Why? Is he stupid and wants to surround himself with people that are even more stupid? Faith is pretending to know what you in fact do not know. How is that not stupid? *"once this faith is evident to the Him,..."* In other words once you have committed this auto-lobotomy you'll feel blissful all over?

[@williamcotten7714]

Vincent Fabro cause a lot of us are still open to new ideas and searching for real discussions with differing beliefs. however most of us, im sure are sorely disappointed by this.

[@thehon5993]

WreckNRepeat discussions my ass all you atheists do is hate and belittle Christians on social media stop lying to yourselves

[@yhwyorthehwy2476]

Vincent Fabro as a Christian I can actually enter this they actually want to believe but they feel like there's not enough evidence

[@jayeltom6089]

Why watching?? Just to make sure you believers are still going by faith instead of hard facts and proof that they/you will never never find ,

[@LeorickChrome]

One of the interesting things in the comments, and common across most of them, is that quite simply, people don't want to believe. Nothing else to explain. For anyone generally interested and willing to listen to the empirical evidence, they will quickly realize (as so many brilliant minds in the past) how it's all true. For the rest, you simply don't want to believe. And for that God withholds the gift of salvation from you and gives you over to whatever you want to believe. Actually I'd like to be even more specific. Jesus said "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day." If you don't know Christ personally, it's He hasn't drawn you. Personally that would scare the living crap out of me if I knew that God wasn't having anything to do with me because my heart was hardened.

[@ianstrange5674]

"The gift of salvation." It isn't a gift if it's offered with conditions. "Accept this gift or" Jesus will " punish you with "everlasting fire" (Thessalonians 1.8.).

[@frekosuava]

You state: Choose this or suffer. The bible says: You're going to suffer, please choose this. - One of these things is not like the other. (gen 1.1 - rev 22.21)

[@just_jimmyyt5819]

+WreckNRepeat Or maybe you know its true but but you're just make excuse How much evidence is enough evidence

[@komodot9249]

Ian Strange um think about it as sin being a cancer and salvation is the cure see we are dying from sin and we will die if we do not accept the cure. God is trying to show you hey I got it I died so that you may have this cure take it or you shall surely perish because of your sin. See We throw ourselves in hell when we decide not to take that cure because that is our death and heaven is our life. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only begotten son(Jesus dying so that his blood could be the cure) that whoever believes in him(whoever takes this cure doesn't matter what you've done in the past) shall not perish(shall not die) but have eternal life .(heaven or will live forever without the taint of sin)

[@rstevewarmorycom]

SaggyBottomBoy There are damned good REASONS people don't believe, suckah! It NEVER was a matter of "want to".

[@mesanto1977]

We are all children of the living God. God Bless

[@carolynhostage2evil804]

Thank you..Praise Jesus Christ

[@jenniferheath2611]

I loved the movie awesome and the Lord used your entire life and your investigating genius to this non believing generation. Growing up in my time night and day difference on faith but now people are totally clueless and some believe He was made up. It infuriates me! God bless you!

[@gpowers2785]

I love Lee's enthusiasm. Jesus is Lord of Lord's.

[@jeromesavary7033]

We dont need stories or arguments. We need EVIDENCE!!!!

[@robinsonelec]

I really loved this speech ❤️✝️🙏

[@Cnc1073]

I would consider myself as much an atheist as Lee was. That was pretty convincing actually. I'm one step closer I guess.

[@modernvintagelifestyles]

The atheists who turn to Christ tend to become some of the best defenders of Christianity. God is tugging at your heart, Max. Praying for you.

[@notablewon]

"The moment we want to believe something, we suddenly see all the arguments for it, and become blind to the arguments against it." - George Bernard Shaw

[@grantbartley483]

You really think he doesn't know the arguments against it? He probably knows them better than you do.

[@notablewon]

@@grantbartley483You do not know.

[@grantbartley483]

@@notablewon Yes, It's induction; and you know what the problem of induction is, perhaps.

[@notablewon]

@@grantbartley483 It is like an assumption and you know what they say about assuming.

[@grantbartley483]

@@notablewon Well, that's why I said 'probably'. But you really think someone who has done his research hasn't come across the contrary arguments? Come on, David Johnson, think with good judgement! What do they say about assuming, anyway?

[@SandraDawson]

Great testimony, thanks for uploading.

[@benjaminchavez1232]

Your testimony was crucial in my conversion. I love data and physical evidence. Although the resurrection occured during the Spring Biblical Feasts: Passover, Unleavened Bread and Firstfruits.

[@jeffcharvat3442]

Thank You for posting this. God Bless You.

[@robinsonjdoxtator9918]

Joshua 1:7 (KJV) Only be thou strong and very courageous, that thou mayest observe to do according to all the law, which Moses my servant commanded thee: turn not from it to the right hand or to the left, that thou mayest prosper withersoever thou goest. Deuteronomy 4:35(KJV) Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the Lord he is God; there is none else beside him. Deuteronomy 32:39(KJV) See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

[@engineerated5627]

The alpha and the omega --- Our Lord Jesus Christ.

[@engineerated5627]

We??? Just you! Keep bullshitting in your mind, no need to say it loud!

[@engineerated5627]

Chill man ! Why are you so resentful? Again you’re using the word “everybody”. Do you represent others as well? How is that possible ? It would rather be appropriate if you talk for yourself! I have nothing against you, I can understand why you’re saying that. I once stood in your place and I know it very well ! 🙂

[@kevinkemble3718]

For me, it took awhile to understand I am loved so much, that the undeserved, unmerited grace makes, faith takes, was exactly why we named our daughter 'Grace' nearly three decades back. To understand that my spirit is perfect, my soul can be renewed daily, as I became a new creature as a born again. All provisions have made readily available. Jesus took the nails, and imagine his body took on every sin, disease,....I mean, wow! "I and the Father are one." "It is Finished" reminds me "All Things Are Possible" because of the resurrection of God made man to Die and rose for us. Lastly, what if? What if this was all true? What if? Are you willing to maintain your self righteous ways? Or, learn about the righteousness of God. Love covers all. Today I am called to be dripping with love. What an honor to be on that path that was laid out 2000 years ago. Let's Go! 2018 is all about influence to destination. Good night and best of many years to arrive you blessed, healthy, renewed and prosperous by his unmerited, undeserved grace grace.

[@sabin1166]

Oh Bullshit.

[@whitaker144]

The Lord Jesus Christ the "mighty One will save" all that come to Him! Andrew Whitaker Zephaniah 3:17

[@DougTozier]

Good interpretation, Lee... Gerd Lüdemann (born 5 July 1946 in Visselhövede, Lower Saxony), is a German New Testament scholar. He taught this subject from 1983 to 1999 at the Faculty of Theology of the University of Göttingen. Since 1999 he has taught there with a special status as Chair of History and Literature of Early Christianity. He is married with four children and seven grandchildren. After periods of teaching and research at McMaster University (1977-79) and Vanderbilt University (1979-82), he was appointed in 1983 to the Chair in New Testament Studies in the Theological Faculty of the University of Göttingen. Following a series of historically critical publications culminating in the publication of his book Der große Betrug: Und was Jesus wirklich sagte und tat (The Great Deception: And What Jesus Really Said and Did) in 1999, in which he argued that only about five per cent of the sayings attributed to Jesus are genuine and the historical evidence does not support the claims of traditional Christianity, the Confederation of Protestant Churches in Lower Saxony called for his dismissal from the Chair of New Testament Studies. Lüdemann stated that his studies convinced him that his previous Christian faith, based as it was on Biblical Studies, had become impossible: 'the person of Jesus himself becomes insufficient as a foundation of faith once most of the New Testament statements about him have proved to be later interpretations by the community'.[1]

[@valentinadanilina2126]

Praise the Lord!, wonderful story.

[@lindinle]

shame its just ego masturbation for christians.

[@shanewilliams374]

How interesting that this came into my feed when I was having issues

[@oliviaedralin1436]

Love his book. I just saw his movie on KZbin. Praise the Lord!!!

[@dctrbrass]

Some really excellent work in the book. It's a great springboard into the work of other well-known scholars.

[@ramigilneas9274]

@@dctrbrass But you know that Strobel already was a Christian for 10 years when those interviews happened, right? He only pretends to be skeptical and exclusively interviews religious fundamentalists who hold a fringe position among scholars.😂

[@AJ_Jingco]

I'm a Roman Catholic and I believe in the Trinity.

[@michaeleatmon9127]

Aj Jingco I do too. The man the woman and child. That stuff in the Bible is some homosexual stuff.

[@gavinsan9843]

@@michaeleatmon9127 ?

[@michaeleatmon9127]

Creations the concept of the holy trinity was stolen from the first trinity in Egypt. The Catholic Church replaces the woman with a ghost. It really doesn’t matter because it’s all mythical anyway.

[@gavinsan9843]

@@michaeleatmon9127 only time will tell. I know what is the truth,but in the end we will all see, question is what are u gonna bet your life on?

[@michaeleatmon9127]

Creations life is not a gamble either you know or you don’t. I found out that the powers that be have lied about everything, to include the invention of religion.

[@louispietraniello4654]

I have a simple question for those who find fault with this presentation, put this presentation aside and explain to me how could 11 men who ran in fear for their very lives after the Crucifixion of Jesus would become so brave in their beliefs that they were willing to die for these beliefs if this was pure fiction and since we weren't there to prove this how can we disprove it.There are atheist who believe in the big bang theory even though they can't prove this but since they can't prove Jesus and his resurrection then this they don't believe, I don't understand this way of thinking. Blessed are those who have not seen but believe amen.

[@jennifermorrison132]

The simple fact remains that freewill is yours. You choose what you want to believe or not believe. Based upon my beliefs....notice I said "my" because this is just my point of view.... I look at it this way for those who want to argue and say that if God doesn't change someone's mind then he has predetermined you are doomed. How I see it is that he gives us freewill to choose. He knows our beginning and our end. Everything else in the middle is decided by us because of freewill. I look at him as our father. A parent is suppose to love and guide their child. They teach them and then let them go into the world. A parent isn't responsible for what their grown child does. Their child chooses to do what he or she wants. Its just like us we make our decisions. We don't have to agree. That is the beauty of freedom.

[@Kestrel1971]

Jennifer Benton No, you do not choose what you want to believe or not believe, AT ALL. Belief/acceptance of a claim is an intellectual test of validity based on a standard of evidence. You can prove me wrong by choosing to believe that ice giants exist. Note that I don't mean believe the CLAIM they exist, I mean ACTUALLY BELIEVE there are giants running around in Scandinavia.

[@lz56able]

God is good!

[@lindinle]

god is not real.

[@lz56able]

Don't be judged for your sins! Don't die in your sins! Embrace Christ as Savior to absorb your sin! Only perfection will get you to Heaven on your own.

[@lindinle]

that would be nice... if any of it was real. too bad.

[@rstevewarmorycom]

some one No, nutball, god is EVIL!!

[@johnlopperman2161]

RL I believe and practice GOOD. Your god visually, factually, literally, meaningfully, even alphabetically, by definition, falls short in every and all ways. Provide evidence to the contrary.

[@Soulariax]

All the Atheists who are trying to debunk this video in the comments are all talking about the same first couple of minutes of this video. Did ANY of you actually watch the whole thing AND pay attention?

[@MC473428]

Soulariax What do you mean "trying"?

[@Soulariax]

"Make an attempt or effort to do something." That's the definition I'm using in that context. If you need a synonym, I'd say "attempting" would be the most accurate fit.

[@MC473428]

I would disagree. Strobel's "evidence" is extraordinarily biased and circumstantial, at best.

[@Soulariax]

MC473428 There must be a misunderstanding. In my original comment, I was referring to the other commenters on this video, not the man in the video.

[@MC473428]

Soulariax Yes, by doing so you implied that Strobel has NOT been debunked, when, in fact, he has. There are so many decent apologists out there, but Strobel is not one of them.

[@BombalurinaAI]

I just got done reading his book, which might I say is not a book for atheists but on the fence Christians who may be having doubts. If you take his word without doing the slightest bit of investigation, then I'm sure you will find his arguments compelling. "As an atheist, there was no accountability." 2:30 - Paints a nice picture of how atheists are. Drunk, abusive, empty. There is so much wrong with this I can't even begin to comment on this. "Is Christianity true... all you have to do is answer is did Jesus return from the dead." - 7:10 - It would be if the claim could be investigated. It's a claim that hasn't met it's burden of proof. No more than any of the other biblical miracles. "... I have to accept the bible as historical documents." 9:20 - The bible isn't the evidence, it's the claim. "Evidence list : 10:50 - Josephus was written after the Gospels. Not an account. Tacitus was written 116 AD, 70 years after the supposed resurrection. The Passing of Peregrinus, written by Lucian was a satire written in 165 AD, how is this even remotely considered evidence? Mara bar Serapion and his letter is a mention of how the wise are punished unjustly and is taken from a Christian perspective while using historical figures to demonstrate his point, this was written as late as the 3rd century and isn't historical in confirming the resurrection. The Talmud, now do we accept other contradictory religious texts as evidence? I could confirm the Egyptian God's using the Bible if that were the case. "Jesus death is indisputable..." - 11:30 Funny because historians are still arguing over if Jesus was an actual figure or not. "Legends..." 12:30 The gospels do a great job at confirming the accounts have the Hallmarks of Legend. The accounts Mark, Luke, John, Peter all were written much later after the events. As they are written, they grow in length as time gets longer. (You'd expect it to get shorter since memory gets worse.), the powers of Jesus grows as time+length goes. The Gosples don't match in details. "Road to Damascus." - How is this evidence? It's pulled straight from the bible. That's circular. "This was formed within months after the event." - 17:10, there is NO evidence of this. The earliest writings of the account were done 30 years after the purported event. This isn't "Historic Gold" it's cherry picked from a single historian which nobody else agrees with him. "... We have good historical records that the tomb was empty...." 18:35 - No citation, just claims it. "How can you account for a religion exploding without this actually happening?" - 19:20. You'd have to ignore the OTHER 21,000+ religions who also had an exploding of followers after false events that never happened. This is a joke. It's like if a Mormons said, "How else do you account for the boom of Mormons if Joseph Smith didn't read from the tablets?" "Embarrassment..." 19:50. Nearly every mythology has this, nearly every compelling story has this. This isn't compelling in the least but it's a good dissertation on narratives. "Enemies" - 22:20 Pulling from the bible, circular logic. At least Stroble is self-aware that there are more logical explanations like stealing a body if it existed. "They had no motive for lying..." - 24:00 Bullshit, martidum for false beliefs isn't a Christian exclusive theme. There is nothing more powerful than being an idol to a religion. "The best explanation is it really happened..." What a stretch. "Eye Witnesses.." 24:50 - We have 100,000 eye witnesses to Sathya Sai Baba performing miracles as a Hindu guru and yet nobody bats an eye. Eye witness testimony is NOTORIOUSLY unreliable. On top of that, the "Eye Witnesses" are from the bible. "4 Gosples" 28:00 - They are not reliable sources of "History" since they are the claim, not the evidence. On top of that, they are self-contradictory and filled with holes and lack continuity. The rest of the video is full of holes... I'll leave it here for now.

[@thinkinginpictures4071]

Nice job.

[@BombalurinaAI]

michael McConnell Maybe you'll like my content online, I'm gonna do a full review of the book when I see the movie.

[@ante_yana]

Skeptic Solo Historians are not arguing that fact.

[@SeeMeFlee]

THank you so much

[@adamropp4757]

"Embarrassment..." 19:50. Nearly every mythology has this, nearly every compelling story has this. This isn't compelling in the least but it's a good dissertation on narratives. Please name the Mythological story (CLAIMING TO BE TRUE) from ancient history that uses taboo, repugnant, non reputable sources for their claims.

[@derekparker4499]

I would just like to say one thing. If we as Christians are incorrect then no sweat right. At least we lived life with purpose. However if we be right then all who chose to disbelieve have a serious problem in the eternal day in court. It's a worthy thought.

[@ExtantFrodo2]

*" I believe that 2+2=4. I didn't choose to believe that; I just know that it's true because I've seen the evidence."* It's engineered to be true so that it can be useful in discerning truth.

[@ExtantFrodo2]

Pascal's Wager = It's better to make assumptions about god than risk eternal torture in his basement. But if it turns out that the one true god is one that hates people fraking their gift of reason & being gullible to a fault & wasting their one life on a toss up (Pascals wager), then you are so screwed... Homer Simpson's version of Pascal's wager "Don't pray to *any* god because if you're praying to the wrong god, then you're just pissin' off the real one." Pascals Wager, one of the most compelling reasons to avoid all gods. The frequency which is brought up among the faithful indicates more about the nature of god's relationship with man than all the bibles in the world. Why worship a god that keeps itself so distant that folks are reduced to the roll of a 10,000 sided die regarding their fate? Why is gullibility so cherished? Who could worship such a god?

[@notbob8252]

I straight-up don't think this guy was ever an atheist I think this is a hit piece on secular morality

[@BombalurinaAI]

I just wanna point out that this video was suggested under "Humor" in my feed. It was funny that this is compelling to someone.

[@vivageocentrism5167]

Bombalurina KZbin "The Global Lie" gets even funnier

[@rstevewarmorycom]

@@vivageocentrism5167 Sorry asshole flattard. The Flat Earth is the LIE!!

[@ForkliftJoe]

I think God laughs at human reasoning... "Oh, look at them! They're so cute when they think they're smarter than Me!" Never forget that God created science and it is subject to Him.

[@briancomley8210]

He just held us back.

[@TheProdigalMeowMeowMeowReturns]

Brian, what?

[@JMUDoc]

*I think God laughs at human reasoning..* Then maybe he should have given you better reasoning - what kind of creator laughs at its own creations' abilities? A *bad* one. Certainly not an _all-powerful_ one.

[@JMUDoc]

@@TheProdigalMeowMeowMeowReturns Limited humans' reasoning, then laughed at it. Some god you worship, there...

[@TheProdigalMeowMeowMeowReturns]

JMUdoc, why are you telling to me that? Most theistic philosophers of religion wouldn’t share the opinion in the original post, and I never declared my own views..

[@Leolioness44]

old testament is the historic record and the prophetic truth to come

[@Porkchop1967]

If that were true, the world would be proved flat.

[@aliceyyh]

the world is flat has got nothing to do with it. the bible never did say the world is flat. back in the old days, everybody believed the world was flat, from the viking to the chinese

[@Leolioness44]

YH Yong just saying: I'm just guessing that you have not read the Torah (Old Testament) /bible, books of Enoch in there entirety? Or you like many others do not believe what Yahweh has told us and showed us about Creation? He spoke of not just a flat earth but a Fixed not moving earth and describes our separation from him and the heavens by a dome. it's all throughout the bible, Torah and books of Enoch. Not many really have searched it for themselves, we just except what science sAus. I have come to the conclusion that I can NO longer sit on the fence. Because I either believe what my CREATOR has provided me about Creation or I believe Human Science's Theory which would make me an Evolutionists. For which I definitely am NOT! So this is where humans Must draw the line, because you just can't believe in both. it's one or the other In the beginning Geinisess Ezekiel 7:2 Psalm 104:5 www.peterwallace.org/old/essays/flatearth.htm en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

[@Leolioness44]

and bty this issue arose because of this man's search for truth.

[@manifestgtr]

ugh...this video and comment section are proof that even though it seems like we're making progress, that progress has its limits...the fact is, there are millions upon millions of people who want so badly for these things to be real, they'll accept any "evidence" you give them that reinforces their belief system, no matter how flawed

[@annan5853]

The proof is there. The evidence is there. Now the question is do you want to be a child of the Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace who created YOU and everything you have. Or do you want to be a child of Satan aka The father of this sinful world which ultimately leads to death. Your pick. You get to decide.

[@TheVCRTimeMachine]

Confirmation bias....Someone has been told their whole life that Jesus rose from the dead, later they learn some critical thinking skills and start to doubt a little, then a guy comes along and says, "The resurrection is real because the Bible says it's real!" and they say, "See! Everything I learned as a child has been confirmed!"

[@uchihadaggerdick484]

VCR Time Machine well he did studying as an atheist, he didn’t just say it was real. Watch the video before speaking, that’s the problem with y’all atheists. You guys dont look both sides you just speak from a bias perspective

[@manifestgtr]

Uchiha Dagger Dick Atheists and agnostics are probably some of the least conformation bias driven people on the planet when it comes to these issues. The fact is, we don’t have any stakes in them, spiritually. I’ve studied Islam and ancient eastern religions...grew up in a catholic school. That’s the thing about being exposed to many different belief systems...you start to realize your religion is completely accident of birth for a vast majority of the planet. That metric ALONE should tell you something...

[@uchihadaggerdick484]

manifestgtr be honest tho man, there has to be something bigger out there that the human mind can’t understand. There has to be more to why we are who we are, i feel like science can’t explain every single thing. Science is great but it’s limited. Our mind is so powerful I just doubt it completely shuts off forever when we die

[@Slippin22]

1 Corinthians 1:18- 21For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe.

[@Raphaelchong]

Amazing message

[@exilfromsanity]

Amazing that anyone could believe this crap!

[@ianyboo]

Theologos Lee gets the definition of atheism wrong. He uses the Bible as evidence for itself. He dismisses other religious claims that meet his low standards of evidence. Want more? There is plenty.

[@sethkunert9872]

Theologos what struck you as the most convincing part of this video?

[@jeffreylindsey3951]

Great teaching

[@Awurabena1]

Jude 1:17-21Expanded Bible (EXB) A Warning and Things to Do 17 [L But you] ·Dear friends [Beloved], remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ ·said before [predicted; prophesied; foretold; 2 Pet. 3:2]. 18 [L For] They said to you, “In the ·last times [end time] there will be ·people who laugh about God [scoffers; mockers], ·following [pursuing] their own ·evil [ungodly] ·desires [passions; lusts; 2 Pet. 3:3].” 19 These are the people who ·divide you [cause divisions], people ·whose thoughts are only of this world [who are worldly; or who live by natural instincts/desires], who do not have the Spirit [C living within them and guiding them]. 20 But [L you] ·dear friends [beloved], ·use your most holy faith to build yourselves up [or build yourselves up on the foundation of your most holy faith; C the whole body of true Christian doctrine and practice], praying ·in [in dependence on; or as directed by; or according to the will of] the Holy Spirit. 21 Keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of the Lord Jesus Christ ·to give you [that leads to] ·life forever [eternal life].

[@09reason]

I was an Atheist. My religion was science and hero was Sir Frances Hoyle, one of the greatest scientists of modern times. He computed the statistical probability of the Universe, Earth and life coming together in a series of random events. The odds were one out of one followed by ten thousand zeros. In a court of law that is well beyond "reasonable doubt." If one studies the strange world of quantum physics, one can begin to understand the resurrection is indeed possible.

[@09reason]

....oh by the way, Sir Frances Hoyle and atheist accepted his data and the real possibility of a Creator.

[@ianyboo]

That's just a "god of the gaps" fallacy. The correct answer to "How did we seemingly beat insurmountable odds against our own existence?" is not "God did it" it's "We don't know" and we might not ever know. But our ignorance does not give us licence to start dreaming up supernatural beings to explain away what we don't understand. We should just be honest and admit that we don't know. Which means the honest position is currently atheism. So why are you not an atheist?

[@lindinle]

ohh please. i know your story is horseshit. i only made it 4 words into the 2nd sentence and knew your lying.

[@olivercastellanos4156]

All I can say is.... WOW!!!

[@Andrew-oh4xs]

to all atheist you should read his book the case for christ he makes some really good points lots of evidence to back up his theories

[@lindinle]

i looked it up. and no. he has no valid points.

[@krissynow2024]

Just watched his movie “The Case for Christ “ Great show.🙏😘🙏💙💕♥️♥️

[@ltyr-mr2if]

I don't dispute this stuff. I'm not an atheist. But if God wanted to give the world a REAL message of specific meaning, it would not be so ambiguous! For now, I live thankful that it's all a continuing question. Always reverent and always thankful!

[@ianyboo]

ltyr2001 1 which god is it that you are convinced is real?

[@eugengolubic2186]

I watched the movie "The case for Christ" but it's better to hear it from the from the first hand.

[@eugengolubic2186]

@Christian Slayer ok coomer.

[@stevegarcia3811]

No matter how much Athiest want to convince others that God isn't real they will have no other choice but to accept that it's true one sweet moment in time.

[@ianyboo]

The burden of proof is not on atheist to convince people that your particular god is not real. The burden is on you since you are the one making the claim that this god is real. Can you meet that burden? Do you have any evidence to suggest that your god is real?

[@averagegaming1917]

My Christian mother told me to look this up and it will open my eyes to God....still an atheist.

[@whyugh6279]

Same bruh

[@wowojeejee]

Skepticism is a sign of intelligence. Atheists are all skeptics.

[@annan5853]

AverageGaming There are weeds in every garden.

[@vivageocentrism5167]

AverageGaming KZbin "The Global Lie" to understand the why

[@woonchinglee2991]

Mr Strobel, How are you? For me I find ppl mostly brush me aside.. I believe in God since 1990 and life has been a personal struggle w/out many friends... Hum!

[@DylanOle]

Jesud will always be there for you. He will give you all the love you ever need. Do not feel alone

[@Transblucency]

You can always rely on Lee Strobel to not ask the tough questions.

[@earldowning-gq9dn]

Which tough questions should he ask which he did not?

[@countmontecristo7066]

Wow....thank you for sharing

[@epicglobalmissions4025]

Ironically, the atheists that attack Lee Strobel only have circular reasoning to support their claims. I have seen Lee Strobel and William Lane Craig debate world famous atheists and the outcome is so tilted in Christianity's favor it's crazy. The good news is Strobel and Craig show incredible grace to the atheist. Something most atheists who post are remiss to show in kind.

[@DougTozier]

+EPIC Global Missions Debates don't determine "truth". And just as many atheists have done the same to Christian apologists. Mythology will always stand on blind belief rather than provable facts.

[@Thatguitarist]

Doug Tozier Christianity isn't mythology

[@sabin1166]

The Super Christian : Got any proof or evidence that it's not?

[@curtisostriker9952]

Jennifer Benton and my fellow Christian brothers and sisters I applaud your speaking up without reservation in regards to the undeniable truth about our Heavenly Father Yaweh and our Lord and personal savior Yeshua. However I would gently suggest perhaps that you do not waste your words on deaf ears. The aethist barring a life altering event, will NEVER Accept what is true because of one simple reason. They rely on their own limited thinking. They are not humble enough to put their prejudices to the side and accept the idea that in reality there is NOTHING complex at all in regards to the existence of GOD and Jesus. These individuals are merely a result of a society that demands that there has to be an intricate and complex series of evidences to support what to them is impossible. As Christians we go by Faith. A doubter or Atheist would never understand the simplicity of Faith because they have been conditioned to rely on their own limited intelligence, books, science and philosophy. Just from reading some of the comments being put forth by these people, mostly acerbic in nature if not sarcastic, it illustrates the sheer ignorance and willful denial of what should be fairly obvious to those who have eyes to truly SEE. The very fact that they cannot provide an answer themselves as to WHY they doubt the existence of GOD and JESUS nor provide evidence to support their claims, only underlines the futility of their arguments. Faith is a GIFT. Free will is a gift. GOD is a JUST GOD because if he were to force us to believe in him then we would merely be automotons. Robots. Then what would be the purpose of being? We are therefore free to CHOOSE to serve a JUST and gracious GOD or try going about our own way thinking we have all the answers. Judging by some of the comments put forth here by skeptics I would say going your own way only leads to MORE questions and endless theories that NEVER have a definitive answer. I will continue to let Faith which has thus far NEVER Failed to reward me with incredible life changing events Be the foundation of my peace and the guiding light in my life. Peace, Strength and blessings to everyone.

[@MC473428]

Curtis Ostriker That was long.

[@willyb0ne]

+Curtis Ostriker Well said Brother Curtis! Praise God in the name of Jesus. Tell them the good news. If they will not hear it - shake the dust from your feet and continue on to the next house.

[@curtisostriker9952]

willyb0ne I will continue to do so brother. Believe me, I have shaken the dust off of my feet several times.

[@MC473428]

Curtis Ostriker Can you please elaborate on this: "The very fact that they cannot provide an answer themselves as to WHY they doubt the existence of GOD and JESUS nor provide evidence to support their claims, only underlines the futility of their arguments." It seems to me as if you are trying to shift the burden away from the claimant. Unless I am misinterpreting?

[@gpowers2785]

Praise Jesus Christ Lord of Lords and king of kings.j

[@leenewman4463]

Look it's black and white. He said I am the way the truth in the life. No one comes to the father but through me. He is lying or he's not. If he is lying you die and you rot and maggots eat you. If he is telling the truth Everything is true you will face judgement for the wrong you have committed. You will be stripped of all the good and lovely in your life when you are cast into hell. You will endure unimaginable pain and suffering for all eternity. The fact of the matter is when you die. SOMEONE WILL BE WRONG AND SOMEONE WILL BE RIGHT. But know if you are wrong God took your punishment. And you rejected his sacrifice.

[@johnlopperman2161]

lee You disputed we die and rot and maggots eat us?

[@FrancisCJtest007]

Amen - great testimony!

[@whitaker144]

And continue to come to Him!!!

[@vivageocentrism5167]

Andrew Whitaker KZbin "The Global Lie"

[@osmosis321]

3:43 - He was looking for the ultimate high, and that was wrong. [waiting for him to say he found the ultimate high in Jesus..] 9:53 - I can't stomach this tripe any longer. Is this guy even for real?

[@annan5853]

Why are you two watching then??

[@punchline43]

+Anna N Because the whole world is a circus, and they probably get a little passive entertainment out of it, like me.

[@vivageocentrism5167]

Osmosis KZbin "The Global Lie"

[@ianstrange8709]

Why on earth did God/Jesus choose to reveal himself to people living in an obscure corner of the Middle East thousands of years before the invention of television and the internet? What a wonderful opportunity it would have been, now in the 21st century ,for Christ to have preached his message to virtually the entire world. The absurdity of Christianity never ceases to astound me.

[@lukefontaine8727]

because people still would not believe. (video edits, lies, accounts of religious oppression and religious radicalism would be the main attention of our world... text can be examined and scrutinized backed up by multiple people speaking multiple languages with a unanimous agreement on the story... God knows best... Jesus saving, the sooner the better. how would we sacrifice animals for religious purposes in this day in age. it wouldnt happen thanks to animal rights activists. good thing Jesus came before them

[@ianstrange8709]

Luke Fontaine I take it you're being sarcastic??!!

[@komodot9249]

Actually wait a while and eventually he will but it will be to late then . One thing that scares me though what would happen if you saw a miracle happens with your own eyes and it was proven to be true and this man said he was God? Would you believe him? I really hope not. Cause the Bible talks about in the end times that will happen and he won't be God but the Antichrist and if your not careful and we are in those times(I don't believe we are yet) then you will for it thinking well that was something" I can see" . Also to your comment God doesn't work that way because then we wouldn't have a personal relationship with him. God wants to have a personal relationship with you not just a belief in him. He doesn't give a crap if you believe in Him I mean according to the Bible even Satin believes in God and Believes that Christ existed and knows the Bible backwards and forwards. I mean the Bible even says pretty much( In my own words )"good for you even the devil and his angels believe " see God wants a relationship not a religion. He doesn't want you to sing and pray and do everything right if you don't have a relationship with him all of that is useless and meaningless. You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror. James 2:19 NLT bible.com/bible/116/jas.2.19.NLT (This is the verse)

[@jeremiahwalker3345]

If it wasn't successful why are over 90 percent of the world's population Christians

[@just_jimmyyt5819]

if God can be fully proved by the human mind and he's no greater than the mind that proved him

[@lindinle]

because he isnt greater than the human mind. because it was the human mind that spawned him.

[@gavinsan9843]

@@lindinle and how can u be so sure of that, do you know something we dont?Can you explain how the Universe was created?

[@322doug]

Atheism accepted because it only gives Freedom to do Evil, not because is true - 201 - 4 of 10

[@radioman3229]

thats why all the shit packers love to be atheist.

[@lindinle]

you clearly dont know what atheism is. so let me simplify if for you. an atheist is what you call a person that does not believe in a god/gods. i know this because i am one, and i dont go around doing evil shit. and lastly. go fuck yourself, you presumptuous judgemental little shit.

[@sabin1166]

radioman 322: So all sexual child abusers love to be Christians?

[@jabbpapi]

Why is everyone always blind to the idea that Jesus' body could've simply been moved? It isn't that hard to believe that an apostle or follower could've easily dug him a proper grave out of love and respect for him.

[@sdmatt1975]

I couldn't get past the first chapter of the book. It employs all the tactics used by AM talk radio infomercials.

[@sdmatt1975]

That's possible. It's also possible that it only took one chapter for me to recognize cheap sales tactics. Maybe someday you will ascend to that level.

[@Jackson-xl7sv]

sdmatt1975 hahahahahah... ascend hahahahahah

[@georgetteboctor8951]

Thanks God for you, God bless you pray for me

[@tracer740]

OK. You have been prayed for. Now go sit down and dummy up. Next-

[@pepefrog9262]

Oh damn he mentioned the talmud. This guy is legit.

[@leadbythelight5691]

Only through Jesus we have eternal life ✝️🕊💞 Romans 5:8 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 2 Corinthians 5:21 21 For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. Romans 6:23 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Acts 2:38-39 Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. John 3:16 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 14:6 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Romans 8:38-39 38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Hebrews 4:12 KJV "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." Hebrews 13:16 "And do not neglect doing good and sharing, for with such sacrifices God is pleased." These are the sacrifices that please God.

[@stevenalexander7309]

LOL! I watched the whole thing, and his entire case boils down to "The bible is true because the bible says so."

[@vivageocentrism5167]

David Minerley KZbin "The Global Lie" runs deeper than you realize

[@eyesopen66]

I'm currently trying to come back to Christianity! I am/was a Christian from 2004 until about 2013/14 and after two/three years of doubt or dietician, I'm starting to yearn for belief again! To get with God again! Please help! any advice? Thanks in advance!

[@wowojeejee]

Is that the god no one has ever seen?

[@bill.huninghake]

I highly recommend you to read the info on the CMI website (see creation.com) with over 10,000 articles and peer-reviewed scientific information plus you can contact them ...

[@peterwalker2377]

You should try Islam. Or Zoroastrianism. Some of the Nordic religions are fun. If you want something a little less judgemental try buddhism. Any one of those will get you to a god.

[@MarilynABinay]

Why are the atheists watching Christian videos like this one and criticize it? Funny.

[@elainepowell4654]

+Marilyn A. Binay Not all atheists are trolls...but the ones who are harassing us here - are trolls...ignore them and they go away...

[@kaynex1039]

+Andrew Suzuki Well, Andrew, Lee does a great job explaining everything religion has to offer in terms of evidence. If a whole bunch of references to Jesus from people who were not alive to see his crucifixion is enough for you, great! But for me, all that proves is that people believed in the stories, not that Jesus ever lived. If a whole bunch of early responses is good enough for you, great! For me, I want legitimate sources, not early ones. The fact that these are so early makes them fishy. Lee doesn't provide any justification for why these sources are legitimate, he does a bit of "slight of hand" to imply that early = legitimate. He is wrong. If an empty tomb is somehow good enough for you, great! I don't know why that would be good enough for you though, because clearly, the mere existence of an empty tomb shouldn't be good enough for anybody. If people who said "The apostles are really sure of it" is good enough for you, great! For me, there are many people to this day who die for Allah, so if "They seem really sure" is evidence, then Islam is winning. We know Alexander the great existed for three main reasons. He had: References from others mentioning his name and acts. Archaeological evidences, such as busts or carvings. Evidences of historical impact. Things he did. Jesus only has one of those three, and he has the weakest of them. We have no idea what Jesus looked like. Jesus changed nothing on earth during his time here. We're missing 30 years of his life.

[@kaynex1039]

Well, fair enough. I mostly post for people who are on the fence. Lee is a very good talker and can convince people who've not heard both sides.

[@MrBlackCracker100]

+Marilyn A. Binay simple. most atheists are open to new information. if someone says they have evidence for god, we are more than open to listen. only problem is that the evidence is almost always poor or just false. then we get annoyed becouse the repetition of ignorance.

[@sickintentionz57]

bc the spirit hungers for our lord.

[@ExtantFrodo2]

Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; & many bodies of the saints who slept arose, 53 & came out of the graves after His resurrection, & went into the Holy City & appeared unto many. And not so much as a ... Dear Mom, The Zombies came out and played today. Rest of day as usual. See you at the second coming.

[@vivageocentrism5167]

ExtantFrodo2 KZbin"The Global Lie"

[@happyguy650]

Being on the crossroads im always on the lookout for good apologetic material which present a rational and unbiased sense of theology. Sadly this was not the one, not even came close to presenting the case for christianity.Sad he misrepresented the non-believers to be immoral. He thought the opposite of christianity is drunkenness, sexual promescuity and pent up hatred towards god. This person needed help for his marriage. All these sources and historicity of jesus are not verifiable and all it takes is a few minutes from ur part to check it or if u wish one can take the same methodology and make a case for any religion. Why were the followers of Mohammed so willing to die for him even after his death and spread islam if not for miracles and belief that he was the messenger of allah. Does that make islam true? As for hallucination people still around the globe claim that jesus appeared to them (not kidding) and is like publising a book where i saw an alien spacecraft along with my 500 friends & relatives and based on the numbers i gotta believe. Only takeaway of this video was the creed and other extra sources which i gotta study more in my spare time and better go for CS Lewis.

[@vlonytachos2330]

CS Lewis is great. I recommend listening to Cold Case Christianity podcast by J Warner Wallace, as well as reading some of his books. The guy is a homicide detective who was an Atheist for 35 years before he started becoming convinced otherwise. His need for evidence is what drew me to him. It wasn't until he had been working on cases that had gone cold (exactly our situation) for 15 years that he started to change his mind. Also, he grew up in a Mormon household. He thought both Mormonism and Christianity were baseless beliefs for comfort. He talks about the day he became a Christian was the same day he became a not-Mormon, because the methods of investigation he used to, say, convict a murderer were the same methods he applied to Christianity and Mormonism.

[@Nolan-fg7wx]

Thanks for the suggestion I'm definitely going to check out the podcast. My grandpa used to be a morman before he left it when he was like 18.

[@Thatguitarist]

Nolan 17 Can I just say that you are the nicest person I've seen on KZbin who didn't try to degrade us Christians or Lee Strobel? Thank you so much

[@BrandonMather8]

There is only so much information that can be give in an hour. You're expecting him to perfectly distill what took him a long time to discover into a single video?

[@jamesolsson9705]

If ever a book had the potential to make converts it would be this one. As a Christian, I used to study, not only with one or more bibles, but I'd have my biblical dictionary, an atlas of the holy lands, a biblical commentary, and a concordance. The one thing I never studied with, which I should have, in retrospect, was any sort of literature from the skeptics. I knew that the Christians were the "good guys" and any force trying to overthrow the good would by definition, have to be evil. Unfortunately, eternal punishment for finite crimes never seemed fair, so I wondered what the skeptics had to say about it. One book led to another, one subject to another, and pretty soon I discovered that the bible is not what it purports to be. Professor Emeritus William G. Dever (archaeologist) says: "I am not reading the Bible as Scripture… I am in fact not even a theist. My view all along-and especially in the recent books-is first that the biblical narratives are indeed 'stories,' often fictional and almost always propagandistic, but that here and there they contain some valid historical information." (Me again) The Bible is not inerrant, it is not "inspired" in the sense that God used a supernatural force to convey his message to the "prophets." I urge the student of biblical history to visit jesusneverexisted dot com, or kyroot dot com for more compelling evidence that the Bible isn't merely the Greatest Story Ever Told, but it is the greatest fraud to ever be foisted upon over two billion people. ~ May your studies lead you ever toward the truth, whatever that truth might be..

[@jamesolsson9705]

www.amazon.com/Challenging-Verdict-Cross-Examination-Strobels-Christ/dp/0968925901

[@DougTozier]

So... if you don't believe in the God of the Bible, you have no moral compass?

[@ketchuponthedog]

Doug Tozier You skipped his entire argument based off of something he didn't even say?

[@DougTozier]

Styrkr I didn't skip anything. And he certainly did say that.

[@DougTozier]

Styrkr Sart listening at 2:20

[@princegedeon8584]

Doug Tozier no he says if you don't believe in the God of Bible you are wrong just when see the history facts

[@DougTozier]

Truth I don't even know what you are trying to say. Oh... except the part about "our book is better than their book so you better believe it without evidence or you'll burn forever in Hell". No thanks. I have a brain. You say the universe was created, but God wasn't, and the Bible is the key... I don't get how you can trust a book that you don't even know who wrote it. I just don't. Trying to scare me with your "God will judge you" crap is laughable.

[@derekthemasta]

I have been struggling to accept Christianity for a long time and would love to believe but I have another loophole I can't get over. What if Jesus had a twin or lookalike to help fake the resurrection? Please tell me why this isn't more likely.

[@voicevitality7197]

Then Jesus would not be Jesus then. How would His "lookalike" ascend up to heaven? If you are struggling with the resurrection, why aren't there other loopholes about which you wonder? Jesus was able to: -raise Lazarus from the dead, -turn water into wine -Walk on water -Feed the multitude from 5 loves and 2 fish -Make the lame to walk -Make the blind to see -Make the deaf to hear -Make the dumb to talk -Calm the storm And more

[@wolfferguson1293]

"As an atheist, there was no accountability." 2:30 - Paints a nice picture of how atheists are. Drunk, abusive, empty. There is so much wrong with this I can't even begin to comment on this. "Is Christianity true... all you have to do is answer is did Jesus return from the dead." - 7:10 - It would be if the claim could be investigated. It's a claim that hasn't met it's burden of proof. No more than any of the other biblical miracles. "... I have to accept the bible as historical documents." 9:20 - The bible isn't the evidence, it's the claim. "Evidence list : 10:50 - Josephus was written after the Gospels. Not an account. Tacitus was written 116 AD, 70 years after the supposed resurrection. The Passing of Peregrinus, written by Lucian was a satire written in 165 AD, how is this even remotely considered evidence? Mara bar Serapion and his letter is a mention of how the wise are punished unjustly and is taken from a Christian perspective while using historical figures to demonstrate his point, this was written as late as the 3rd century and isn't historical in confirming the resurrection. The Talmud, now do we accept other contradictory religious texts as evidence? I could confirm the Egyptian God's using the Bible if that were the case. "Jesus death is indisputable..." - 11:30 Funny because historians are still arguing over if Jesus was an actual figure or not. "Legends..." 12:30 The gospels do a great job at confirming the accounts have the Hallmarks of Legend. The accounts Mark, Luke, John, Peter all were written much later after the events. As they are written, they grow in length as time gets longer. (You'd expect it to get shorter since memory gets worse.), the powers of Jesus grows as time+length goes. The Gosples don't match in details. "Road to Damascus." - How is this evidence? It's pulled straight from the bible. That's circular. "This was formed within months after the event." - 17:10, there is NO evidence of this. The earliest writings of the account were done 30 years after the purported event. This isn't "Historic Gold" it's cherry picked from a single historian which nobody else agrees with him. "... We have good historical records that the tomb was empty...." 18:35 - No citation, just claims it. "How can you account for a religion exploding without this actually happening?" - 19:20. You'd have to ignore the OTHER 21,000+ religions who also had an exploding of followers after false events that never happened. This is a joke. It's like if a Mormons said, "How else do you account for the boom of Mormons if Joseph Smith didn't read from the tablets?" "Embarrassment..." 19:50. Nearly every mythology has this, nearly every compelling story has this. This isn't compelling in the least but it's a good dissertation on narratives. "Enemies" - 22:20 Pulling from the bible, circular logic. At least Stroble is self-aware that there are more logical explanations like stealing a body if it existed. "They had no motive for lying..." - 24:00 Bullshit, martidum for false beliefs isn't a Christian exclusive theme. There is nothing more powerful than being an idol to a religion. "The best explanation is it really happened..." What a stretch. "Eye Witnesses.." 24:50 - We have 100,000 eye witnesses to Sathya Sai Baba performing miracles as a Hindu guru and yet nobody bats an eye. Eye witness testimony is NOTORIOUSLY unreliable. On top of that, the "Eye Witnesses" are from the bible. "4 Gosples" 28:00 - They are not reliable sources of "History" since they are the claim, not the evidence. On top of that, they are self-contradictory and filled with holes and lack continuity. The rest of the video is full of holes... I'll leave it here for now

[@masseur10]

Gerd Lüdemann stated that his studies convinced him that his previous Christian faith, based as it was on Biblical Studies, had become impossible: 'the person of Jesus himself becomes insufficient as a foundation of faith once most of the New Testament statements about him have proved to be later interpretations by the community

[@epicdman8139]

Atheists: we would believe in God if you could only give evidence! *provides thousands of apologetics books* Atheists: You can't only use the bible dknsodnwhfksnfksb

[@yakojjy]

+epicdman813 What are you even trying to say, that apologetic books are evidence?

[@epicdman8139]

+Wilbur Jenkins no that they are just there for decoration

[@yakojjy]

epicdman813 Well apparently your standard for evidence is pretty low.

[@epicdman8139]

+Wilbur Jenkins so you've read every single apologetics book in existence and have credibility to say they are not evidence? Or do you just revert to the stereotype that we only use the bible to prove the bible

[@yakojjy]

epicdman813 Dude books don't prove anything. A biology book doesn't prove anything. A history book doesn't prove anything. Just because a book says something doesn't mean it is true. Things need to be independently verified with evidence. When a science books says the acceleration of Earths gravity is 9.8 m/s, it's true because you can actually measure it with evidence. They're called apologetic books for a reason. All they do it present baseless conjecture that cannot be tested with evidence.

[@dspondike]

Critique of Lee Strobel: 1’00” Decided as a teenager that god does not and cannot exist. That is not a rational statement atheism. A rational statement would be that we do not know if God does or does not exists, but the evidence indicates that it is not very likely. I have little or no confidence that god does exist. If his atheism is not based on reason and relationally, than it was not more than a belief system to begin with. 1’30” Makes not even being interested in checking out the other side the equivalent of being a skeptic. No. As a teenager he was not only not rational, he was closed minded. This is typical of teenagers. He took this idea of skepticism into his professional career. 2’00” His “skepticism morphed into cynicism” - because his skepticism was not the healthy open minded type of skepticism, but the closed minded unhealthy type of skepticism. 2’30” His “logical” assumption is that without god there is no framework for morality. This is just not a factually true statement. He came to the “logical” conclusion to be a hedonist. This is not a logical conclusion. The conclusion does not necessarily stem from the premises. He is simply wrong on this point. He chose to be immoral and is blaming that on his atheism. The man cannot take responsibility for himself. 3’15” He is telling us about the failures of “hedonism” which really has nothing to do with atheism, even this those this man claims atheism as the cause. It was his own lack of moral fortitude that was the enabling factor. Atheism does not cause hedonism and his alcoholism. 5’00” Wife (who needs emotional and psychological support due to her alcoholic and abusive husband) becomes a Christian. I would hope her life would get better. This is no evidence of god or the truth of the doctrine. Just than a caring community can improve a life. But this man thinks it just might be a miracle? 6’45” Starts investigation. 7’20” Core claim: Did Jesus rise from the dead? 8’15” Reference to Paul post ressurection. The Bible is true because the Bible says that it is true is a circular argument. The Bible is not sufficient evidence to prove any claim made in the Bible. That is simply how logic works. This journalist is not using reason and logic here. 9’25” The New Testament is a mix of documents, many of them would not be considered to be “historical”. His generalization is misleading. 9’55” Start the 4 E’s First E: Execution. We he talks about no dispute he is seeking in hyperbole. There is no indisputable conclusions about the resurrection. All of the references are singular, indirect, distant in place and/or time. This is extremely weak evidence. 11:30 Simple “Appeal to Authority” to claims that something that is obviously being disputed is indisputable. Again, the man is not using classical reason and logic. 12’00” Second E: Early (reports) 12’45” His claim: In the first century the early Christians follow a creed that was based totally in fact. His evidence: The person passing down the creed thinks that is it so important and will pass it along to you unaltered. First this is merely an assumption. Second, this is not at all evidence that the creed is based in any fact, let alone completely in fact. This again, regardless of the claims that Jesus appears to 500 people other than this apostles, is still simply the Circular Argument fallacy. It is the claims the Bible is true because the Bible says it is true. (14’00”) 16’00” Paul, has formulated a creed is not evidence that what the creed says is fact or true. This is a rambling circular argument at this point. 18’30” Third E: Empty (tomb) Mentions that there are some good historical reasons for believing it is true but only refers to the Bible. 19’10” William Lane Craig is a pseudo-intellectual professional Christian debater who is renown for misusing and abusing classical reason and logic. The “Jerusalem Factor”. Unsubstantiated Claim: the open tomb was know to Christians and non Christians alike. It is this wide spread knowledge that allowed the story to gain traction and grow into a movement. Again, no way to know who knew what. Same circular argument, the Bible is true because the Bible says that it is true. Craig is also making some predictions about human behavior. 19’45” The Criterion of Embarrassment Women discover the empty tomb. Women were not considered to be credible. So why tell a story that would hurt its own credibility? That is exactly the type of thing one might do if one is attempting to replace an old paradigm with a new one. Its is a new world order, a new testament. Women play a symbolic roll in Christianity. The assertion that it must be historical fact and not symbolism is not supported by any evidence or necessity of logic. 22’10” The enemies of Jesus say the tomb was empty. There are other natural reasons for the tomb to be empty. We do not yet know it was filled because every new point is built upon the precious Circular Logic fallacy. This is yet another repetition of the Circular Argument fallacy the Bible is true because the Bible says that it is true. 23’45” Strobel is explicitly making the claim the the Bible is a historically accurate and reliable document. This is not a journalist. This is a “believer”. 24’25” Strobel makes the claim that the suffering of the apostles is evidence that what they claimed is true. This is not a true claim. Many people suffer greatly for beliefs that they hold dearly even if they are not true. They do not even have to be religious beliefs. Strobel is simply making a false assertion about human nature here. 24’46” Fourth E: Eyewitnesses Oh, my! This is from a journalist? Someone who should know better than anyone else about the questionable reliability of eye witnesses, it should be a journalist. Appears to 515 eyewitness. This is recounted in the Bible. The non-biblical evidence is said to be 9 records of the apostles seeing the risen Christ. This is simply asserting, assuming the records are accurate, that the religions visions or hallucinations of these men is evidence that Christ actually rose from the dead. This is not evidence of reason, logic, or science. 26’30” Claim: The conviction the apostle’s have in their beliefs make them true. This is again a terrible argument. There are many people who have extremely strong convictions about things that are not real or true. Again this is all reported in the Bible. (Circular Argument fallacy). 29’45” Evidence that the apostles taught followers is not evidence that what they were teaching is true. 31’00” Scholar states that its is a historical fact that the apostles had experiences of the risen Christ after Jesus death. Even if we assume the truth of that statement, there is no evidence anywhere that says it could be anything other than a hallucination, a subjective mental experience. 31’31” Equating this own atheism with that of this scholar is misleading and distorts the scholar’s position. 32’15” Again misusing a scholar. The claim here is that because the scholar says that a mass hallucination of 500 people seeing the same vision is not possible (which may be true) means that the story must be talking about a real risen Christ and could not be fictional. Yet he still goes on to fallaciously argue that since this mass witnessing has to be true, this proves that individual’s hallucinations were not really hallucinations but the actual risen Christ. There is no reason to believe the premise is true, and the conclusion does not follow from the premise even if it were true. Strobel is using terrible logic and reasoning., 36’00” Repetition of the false claims that being willing to die for something makes it true. 36’15” Preparing to present his “conclusion” from all of this “evidence”. 36’40” Due to the overwhelming evidence, it takes more faith to be an atheist than to be a Christian. Strobel is unaware, for whatever reason, that he is not very good at evaluating evidence. As I have demonstrated above, his evidence is weak at best, nowhere even close to overwhelming. He makes it seem overwhelming by his use of logical fallacy and misuse of logical reasoning. 37’00” Strobel concludes that the resurrection reality happened. 37’30” OK. I have throughly explained what Strobel’s conclusion is not overwhelming evidence to accept the claims that a miracle that violates all known laws of nature occurred with the resurrection of Christ. Expounds on himself as a “believer”. Plus receive. Christ died on the cross for our sins. The moral argument here is that torturing and murdering an innocent person to atone for the sins of another is a divine example of moral standard. 38’20” Strobel blames is immorality on not being a “child of god”. He simply was not moral. He feel the need to be moral nor did he reason the need to be moral. Either one of those two conditions would be equally sufficient to produce moral behavior and are independent of being a “child of god”. One does not beed to be a child of god to be moral, but apparent Strobel feels that this is the case for him, and is therefore evidence to him that Jesus is the risen Christ. 39’45” This is his conversion. 41’00” Attributes his conversion as God’s answer to his wife’s prayers. Strobel will use is conversion to be his source of morality. This was his choice. One could also choose empathy and/or reason. 43’20” Begins to assert the scholarly study in this field is revealing that the resurrection is historical truth. 43’45” I am happy that this man seems to have saved himself and his family. This is a good thing. However, this is by no means evidence that the Jesus literally and historically rose from the dead.