Legacy Conversations - Anthony Turton - National Intelligence Service (NIS)

Dr Anthony Turton completed his military service and was recruited to the intelligence world shortly after. He became involved with penetrating enemy organizations and intelligence services. This is his story. If you have questions for our guest, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes.
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[@johnphillips5607]

From the darkness to the light indeed! It takes a very special kind of courage needless to say. Contributes immensely to an informed and shared understanding of our past history. Thank you Tony for reminding us what special people South Africans are.

[@danieduplessis-c3x]

😊😊😊😅😊😊😊

[@deniscoyne5671]

What a story. Thank you, Dr. Anthony Turton.

[@markdraper2474]

What a Fascinating story, we just never knew what was happening behind the scenes. There is just nothing more to say. FANTASTIC.

[@andrewwhitaker7313]

And what we’re trying to achieve with Legacy. Get the information out there

[@danieduplessis-c3x]

You ŕrealise we are small fsh

[@chrismoll6862]

As we say ... every episode is the best one ! This was great!

[@kempvdwesthuizen9245]

Wow what an interesting career. Really enjoyed listening to Tony.

[@louisstopforth5886]

Thank you Dr Tony and Legacy, this has been one of the most interesting podcasts. Very interesting having first hand knowledge.

[@andrewwhitaker7313]

What an interesting man to interview as well

[@wettham715]

Awesomely blessed hearing this officer of immense integrity and honesty.

[@jandejong5307]

This has to be one of the most interesting Legacy talks ever! Thank you both.

[@user-eh2tm9kp8l]

Fascinating! Thank you Tony for sharing

[@colleenangelamilne-warren4739]

Thank you, Sir. What an honour for my Jess to have met you.

[@SeanFinland]

Thanks Anthony and the Legacy Team. Very interesting.

[@terencetruter4294]

Dankie vir u diens!

[@infoswissoil2452]

That was awesome it puts a picture in place of how it was

[@356B]

Thank you

[@brucedickson6019]

Professor Turton - thank you for a truly interesting explanation of the chaotic years when I was a junior officer. I was often forced to guess on what was really going on. As it happened, my late father - a soldier during the Malayan "Emergency" - guessed that fuse tampering was causing the 'surprises'. This technique, together with introduction of rice fibre into food dumps and the deformation of rifle barrels, was pioneered by "The Projects Section."

[@williepretorius9262]

Wow, baie interresant en leersaam. Saluut aan U.

[@cccmmm1234]

In about 1989 or 1990, we woke up at about 5am to the sound of a limpet mine going off. It seemed that the goal was to attack the Wynberg police station and somehow the mine went off before he had put it in place. He was killed and nobody else was injured. There was speculation at the time that the fuse had been tampered w8th.

[@wettham715]

Very interesting. I was in Lisbon during the Carnation outpouring in 74, just passing through . Returned home soon after and ended up in 1 Para B Coy, 74/75 and later on in 2 Bin till 83.

[@AW-rj6qf]

Salute / Saluut.

[@brucemcdonald8529]

What an event!! Thank you so much to all involved, especially of course Mr Turton. For me, this was the most significant and important presentation of your channel!

[@sihlengomane9985]

This is likely the most fascinating thing I've listened to this year, especially as someone that's interested in SA intelligence services both the history and their current form. I'd love to pick Anthony's brain on a variety of topics, so if he is open to it maybe he could share his email address or you guys do a follow up episode and I mail you guys some questions. There's a lot that he can share with us, you guys have just scratched the surface

[@oom-At]

Die beste van die bestes!!

[@annaliedupreez9488]

Extremely interesting!

[@premierhoner614]

WOW, he lived my high school dream.. But nou ja... Some are blessed... 😅

[@christianmortimer6407]

Thank you sir for a most interesting and informative presentation . And good for you sir ..

[@gianlucapirro9054]

Great video as always !! Many Thanks

[@JohnBothma]

Very very interesting

[@henrydekock4398]

What a story thanks for sharing this Legacy love this and great great respect for what you did

[@drbrucejmacmurray1834]

Thanks Boet.

[@lehlohonolomasiza9952]

It was a lovely story

[@colleenangelamilne-warren4739]

...and the Toti Bomb. We drive down a street every day that is named after the bomber.

[@miguelnieto83]

Fascinating stuff!! Please Koos and legacy staff, try to get some more Intelligence people especially ex- MI/CSI? Also would be interesting to hear from some of the SAP Security Police people if possible?

[@LegacyConversations]

Come and tell your story. Koos

[@sihlengomane9985]

YES! Please get more

[@NickSchoonwinkel]

Amazing Billy

[@JOATMOFA]

I did not recognize the beret insignia? SA Intelligence had a "jakkalskop" on their berets. During training in Kimberley (SA Intelligence School, Diskobolos) you are issued with a black beret and a jakkalskop pin for your beret. I was posted in 1984 to 53BN Ondangwa and served more a year in the war against SWAPO! My Commanding Officer, Major Fred Lotter, was later killed by a SWAPO bullet as he peered out of the Casper's hatch during a spoorvolg!

[@ivorvandermerwe9934]

Respect.

[@colleenangelamilne-warren4739]

Yes! Foreign entities were aiding and abeding. Most definitely.

[@danieduplessis-c3x]

Read Niel Barnards book Geheime rewolusie with this interview

[@unwoke1652]

Wish to read that. My uncle was his adjutant.

[@chrismoll6862]

Hello SAW!

[@josephnakale7343]

Great things there were,one wonder how much out there still to be known.

[@colleenangelamilne-warren4739]

👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

[@danieduplessis-c3x]

Paar stukke van n groot legkaart

[@hermansplombaard9089]

#PresenteerGeweer

[@thapelomaselwa2081]

👍

[@shortMario]

Koos I don't know about this one. The cohesion of the story is undermined by a underlying level of dought. I am not sure what to think.

[@andrewwhitaker7313]

I suggest you buy his book “shaking hands with Billy”. Most of what he speaks about is backed up by photos. Unfortunately the very nature of undercover work will be difficult to substantiate, but maybe set out the issues that creates doubt in your mind. Would make a good topic for a future interview. Would you be willing to do a discussion with Anthony?

[@arthurmason2532]

It's difficult to retain your continuity of thought in a podcast of this nature. So reading his book will straighten things out.

[@LegacyConversations]

Anthony Turton is the real deal. This happened. Koos

[@shortMario]

@@andrewwhitaker7313 Thank you for your generosity of spirit in the reply. i think I will read the book. The format of a written form might be more constructive as far as this subject matter goes. In terms of being willing to have a discussion with Anthony my position is as follows. The facts of the conversation is almost irrelevant as far as the feeling of unease goes. The Narrative as Dr Turton has presented it has a strange quality to it. It has an almost emotional appeal that intersects with the facts in such a way that a hybrid truth is synthesised. There is the truth of the facts intersecting with the truth of a world saturated with uncertainties and compartmentalised silo's of action. The net result sits uneasy in my mind. The story told by the Dr somehow manifests some of the realities of the world he describes in the phycology of the viewer ( or at least in myself). Suspicion and uncertainty from the space he describes seeps into the absorption of the story itself. Having a discussion with Dr Anthony would have to explore this psychological space in me as well as him. It would take the shape of a journey into the subconscious . I am not sure if this is really the focus of your platform. Perhaps you meant a private discussion with the Dr in contrast to a public one ? In retrospect I will however say that I will rely on the integrity of Yourself and Koos to Bridge the gap. I have come to understand that Dr Turton has an interesting story that happened to be difficult to absorb because of the very context of the story. In many ways if the integrity of this story is guaranteed it fulfils the mission of Legacy conversations in a most admirable way. Not only is a story that deserves recognition platformed, it is imbued with scrutiny and endorsed as reflective of the truth.

[@shortMario]

@@LegacyConversations Thank you Koos I am inclined to take your world for it. Your reply and that of Andrew has done much to allow me to focus on why this story invoked a nervy sense of unease within me . I think that the space and impact of the space that Dr Anthony operated in colours the description of that space in a way that reflects the suspicions and uncertainty of the space itself and this sits at the hart of my scrutiny towards this story. Thank you kindly for the work you do and the approach that you take.

[@BarryWaters-ky8li]

Ping

[@jacovdmerwe2655]

Kan iemand die klank verbeter?

[@LegacyConversations]

nee, Koos