Real Lawyer Reacts to Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (Episode 1)

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A rookie defense attorney who defends his childhood best friend for murder in his first trial. Will he ace the case or fail the bail? Today we’re going to find out if Phoenix Wright is really an ace attorney. Stay until the end for my Legal Realism Grade!
Somehow this one never ended up on my radar. I haven’t played the game or the watched the anime, but I can see why people love it. But that doesn’t mean it’s realistic… Today I’m breaking down the first episode of Phoenix Wright. Are there other episodes that are especially good? Would you like to see me react to another particular Phoenix Wright episode? Let me know which one!
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I get asked a lot about whether being a practicing attorney is like being a lawyer on TV. I love watching legal movies and courtroom dramas. It's one of the reasons I decided to become a lawyer. But sometimes they make me want to pull my hair out because they are ridiculous. Today I'm taking a break from teaching law students how to kick ass in law school to take on lawyers in the movies and on TV. While all legal movies and shows take dramatic license to make things more interesting (nobody wants to see hundreds of hours of brief writing), many of them have a grain of truth.
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[@LegalEagle]

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[@aaronsahipakka3224]

More suits! Love these videos btw :D

[@dirtymikentheboys5817]

LegalEagle can we ask legal questions

[@Grinnar]

One of my favorite movies is "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil." There is some court stuff. But I'm not sure how great for a video it would be.

[@sreeshnelp]

You should do a video on dressing like a lawyer and suiting-up tips! (I don't know if its already been done, sorry if so!)

[@Grinnar]

@Kandinsky season one, episode 2 is pretty good. I think it was episode 2. Fantastic show, so kudos for suggesting it!

[@PlebNC]

Judge: *Says "Larry Butts"* Legal Eagle: *Doesn't laugh* This man is a professional.

[@ddlcfan5539]

I'd like to thank you... this made me laugh. I needed it

[@PlebNC]

@@ddlcfan5539 No problem. I'm just surprised no-one else mentioned it.

[@cristin6455]

@@PlebNC "okay, that's an... interesting name"

[@alwrig]

Maybe he would have cracked a smile if the defendant's first name was Seymour...

[@PlebNC]

@@alwrig Now I want to see the scene editted so the faces and voices are editted to look/sound like Moe and Bart from the Simpsons.

[@Dr_Confucius]

"The prosecutor cant just pull out some evidence" *laughs in Edgeworth*

[@braydentobin5150]

“Your autopsy report is... outdated”

[@idklol2755]

@@muneshxge *salary cutting noises*

[@nangirb1]

i really want to see how he reacts to edgeworth hahaha

[@alexr1318]

*LAUGHS IN VON KARMA*

[@panwasacz2733]

You say it like it would be allowed in Real life

[@OliversAntics69]

"it can actually be harder if you truly believe someone is innocent" damn no wonder phoenix is so stressed all the time

[@gferrol118]

To be fair, 9 times out of 10 they *are* innocent

[@maximumlength5052]

Don’t forget the final case of Justice For All, my mans had it bad

[@somethingbehindyouu]

O LIVER holy shite i used to watch your videos all the time you’re a big inspiration for me dude, keep doing what you’re doing

[@therealSunTzu]

Well it's a bit easier when the actual killer is sitting 10 meters away eating popcorn

[@maximumlength5052]

@@therealSunTzu very cool actual Sun Tzu

[@scrawnytony3174]

“Trials take months, or even years, to litigate” “Three days. Take it or leave it.”

[@sebastianrochefort6763]

I laughed at the same point XD

[@thatwintanjeen5743]

@@khamjaninja. True

[@aminulhussain2277]

@@khamjaninja. In that sense it successfully captures the near sisyphean task of actually winning a case as a defense attorney in japan.

[@ihavepermissiontospamracia7794]

@@khamjaninja. japanafornia law system really hates defense attorneys

[@gokbay3057]

@@ihavepermissiontospamracia7794 Hey, at least you get a cute girl as an assistant.

[@acemcwolf5445]

"You can't just pull out some record and enter it in as evidence." Edgeworth:*Laughs in autopsy update.*

[@Nexus71c]

Let's not forget the Wiretap.. That's highly illegal in the US lol

[@TheAkumuKing]

Now say it with me: IN JAPAN...

[@Reginald_Ritmo]

He lives in california

[@minababynatsume9343]

@@Nexus71c *_Your autopsy is.... o u t d a t e d_*

[@kgremya520]

Let's not forget about franziska Von karma.

[@stopdropandroll]

wait til he sees phoenix cross-examining a parrot, a radio, and a spirit.

[@theorangeguy6704]

stopdropandroll don’t forget the orca

[@stopdropandroll]

@@theorangeguy6704 i havent played past Apollo justice so pls dont spoil

[@somethingext]

Believe it or not when I was watching a reaction on it I said "Well why don't we cross-examine the parrot" as a joke but then they actually did I was like "What th- I was kidding"

[@kacklina]

and an Orca...

[@gacharaccon2251]

Thanks for spoiling everything i knew The parrot but... 😂

[@pedroboii3843]

"The prosecutor can't just magically pull out some record and enter it into a evidence" Miles Edgeworth : Hold my updated autopsy report

[@themilkman7664]

It’s called Japan apparently

[@Vissorilio]

They pull it out of their ass

[@cacs2201]

@@themilkman7664 more like "video game plot twist" But yeah

[@hahahayden1]

@@themilkman7664 *japanofornia*

[@weebandgaminginc.7593]

Actually I think you mean to say “Edgeworth: “hold my fixed autopsy report”

[@Brick_Eater_]

Objection: In Japan, legal workers are given lapel pins. The pins in game are actually replicas of real life Japanese legal lapel pins. Remember, this series takes place in Japanifornia!

[@NEEDbacon]

"Eat your hamburgers, Apollo"

[@TCRO_01]

Like Yakuza members

[@bucket9144]

From what I understand, the Japanifornia thing is a joke in the community. The games and show take place in normal Japan, but the American localization of the DS game had it take place in California for reasons similar to Brock saying that onigiri is jelly filled donuts in the pokemon anime.

[@mariotheundying]

@@bucket9144 I'm pretty sure kids would know what Japan is

[@bucket9144]

@@mariotheundying yes. But the American localization team at the time did not think kids would know what Japan is. I dont know who was in charge, but a similar example would be 4Kids changing onigiri into jelly filled donuts in the pokemon anime.

[@MyGamer125]

7:25 “That’s bad news for Phoenix Wright!” You just described Phoenix’s entire career as a Lawyer in one sentence.

[@killerbug05]

Phoenix Wright: *exists* God: "that's bad news for Phoenix Wright!"

[@iloveeetsukasa]

LMAO

[@derrickhaggard]

Also the reason why Phoenix wins a lot of his cases is bluffing, and luck lots of and lots of luck.

[@Roid33]

@@derrickhaggard And His "Intimidating","Scary" Hair

[@keitoucreations2727]

@@derrickhaggard And Mia appearing every now and then

[@erikaz1590]

LegalEagle: I would never recommend someone to represent someone they know so well. Phoenix Wright: Has Defended Larry Butz twice, Edgeworth once, and Maya four times.

[@no.850]

Defended even himself

[@yuciehayashi266]

I think Legal High (Japanese drama) mentioned that in Japan it's possible to go on court on your own.

[@aliahmed7287]

@@yuciehayashi266 you can do that in America as well its just a really bad idea.

[@yuciehayashi266]

@@aliahmed7287 wow.. So is it actually something common? Like I don't even know whether my country allows it or not.

[@koalaberrie]

Objection! He has defended Edgeworth two times

[@sharrkan9177]

OBJECTION! In Japan, attorneys do, in fact, have badges.

[@kumatora9959]

Well thats uncalled for😅

[@Dirtyshanks808]

Clearly he's speaking from an American judicial point of view.

[@Void_Echoes]

Seamus Corey Hold it! He clearly said he had no knowledge of the japanese systems. He’s speaking from his experiences as an American attorney!

[@honeymoney8502]

HOLD IT! Are you just gonna skip past the comic sans title?

[@gamingstriker6219]

Sustained

[@Pinkstarclan]

real lawyers always react to the first case of ace attorney. fine enough, they make some good points. but I wanna see a lawyer react to that one case in Dual Destinies (5th game) where the defendant is an orca, and the prosecutor is an active death row inmate with a feral hawk as an assistant council, and they cross-examine the orca, and there's a penguin in the courtroom at one point

[@duffman18]

This is reacting to the anime, not the game, though

[@astamanista9447]

@@duffman18 The parrot, the serial killer on a radio, and a dead person's spirit called by a medium are in the anime though. Even without the orca, the franchise can be real weird.

[@pkmntrainerred4247]

I want to see them reacting to Turnabout goodbyes, RFTA & Farewell my Turnabout

[@gold_hampter4017]

Mcscuse me I just played the first game

[@Pinkstarclan]

@@gold_hampter4017 you heard me. also play the rest, they're REALLY good. (fyi tho the case i described is DLC)

[@captainobvious8802]

LegalEagle: “He has no idea about the autopsy report” Edgeworth: “I agree”

[@onskrieg]

*Laughs in tsk tsk*

[@zacross8504]

@@onskrieg did gumfuck not tell you?

[@killerbug05]

@@zacross8504 ah yes gumfuck my favorite video game character.

[@ReptilianTeaDrinker]

@@zacross8504 You already left the same reply to another comment on this video...

[@leslichaosgrimalkin1404]

@@killerbug05 ah yes

[@maidenlessbastard]

My question is: can a prosecutor bring a whip to court and whip the hell out of the attorney?

[@fisharecute5642]

If your dad is a prosecutor that basically owns the court then probably.

[@flaremawile726]

@@fisharecute5642 Guess that's a "No" for the whip

[@shahshakuras700]

Only If the lawyer can bring a taser as well

[@petrhamera9399]

@@shahshakuras700 and his girlfriend

[@braynnwinter4019]

If the Judge accepts...

[@CloudStriiff]

"You would never wear a T-shirt, crazy hair and a goatee to court" Boy oh boy you have no idea how wild it gets lol

[@nicoler5713]

Everyone who's seen / played more of this canon just like "mmm, that's gonna be the least of your problems with defendants".

[@pixelsilzavon77]

just wait for the literal cowboy who drinks in court, and a lady literally cracking a whip against the desk

[@tehotter9780]

Butz is like, by far the most normal defendant PW ever interacts with

[@videogamemusic2962]

@@pixelsilzavon77 and the cowboy has a knife to!

[@Jack_OutsideTheBox]

Just wait for a bomb to go off in court and someone getting sniped.

[@BlueV205]

Imagine his surprise when he found out that this case is the most normal case in the entire franchise. I swear this franchise is more adventure-comedy than mystery.

[@HappyTheFan]

That's what's makes it more interesting!

[@Algebruh2407]

It really is. Then in the anime they have an anime original arc that gives you tonal whiplash from how straight laced it feels.

[@nathanhendrickson790]

@@Algebruh2407 doesn’t the court room like collapse into this battle ground between phoenix and edgeworth at one point?

[@JoJo.mp4]

We are talking about the parrot are we?

[@nathanhendrickson790]

@@JoJo.mp4 the parrot, interrogating a radio, exercising a ghost, holding a retrial on a train,

[@grrumakemeangry]

The fact that he didn’t question the airbender scenes is the proof that all advocates have to go through an airbending tutorial.

[@misplacedsemicolon838]

Hell yeah court is fun

[@misplacedsemicolon838]

Or so I hear

[@hoangblox9991]

They have repaired for the fire nation attack

[@nicoleonlysometimes824]

@HQ i’m applying to lawyering school as we speak

[@NicholasWiewiora]

@@nicoleonlysometimes824 nice, good luck!

[@sirtacovi3262]

"You don't want to bring up the autopsy report unless..." Me, knowing they never shut up about the autopsy report, ever: *stifled laugh*

[@kylemagaro9744]

They do the same in American legal shows. Everybody gets that wrong.

[@AM_xX]

You ever wonder how Gumshoe pays the bills with so many autopsy reports coming in?

[@mortisisnecroborn6400]

why your comment make me think of datz..

[@Smiles122]

Hey guys, I had another autopsy done just two seconds ago, so here’s the updated autopsy.

[@voidsurger7038]

That autopsy report is *outdated your honour* lol update

[@Flevir]

"You're not trying to prove that the witness did the murder." Oh. Oh poor LegalEagle. That's literally the WHOLE premise of these games XD

[@georgelionon9050]

I thought the point was to proof the judge was murderer!

[@maple7093]

I would like but u have nice likes.

[@georgelionon9050]

@@maple7093 done it gone

[@mynewaccount2361]

@@maple7093 stfu

[@Alexe_arte]

also you have to prove the motive of the crime

[@bethanypannekoek6687]

LegalEagle: Ace Attorney is a terrible example of lawyering All Ace Attorney fans ever: sounds about right

[@astralguardian5930]

It was never about realism It's about that feeling of piecing together all the clues like a detective and putting them to use to solve zany, other the top murders.

[@brasteryakintosh9418]

You're telling me a witness can't give multiple contradictory testimonies over and over again, withold evidence, and admit openly that the prosecutor specifically told them to lie in their testimony without ANYONE trying to declare it a mistrial? And that's just what only the witnesses do in almost every case in this series

[@EpicgamerJoeDaSeal]

@@astralguardian5930I agree

[@That_1GayTheaterKid]

We’re just here to have a good time 😂

[@Aisubun]

​@@astralguardian5930 Yeah, at the end of the day it's a video game with a story to tell, not a job simulator LOL

[@oops3798]

In these games, the basis of court trials is "Guilty until someone else is proven guilty"

[@Felixr2]

"Guilty until at least one witness and/or the prosecutor is proven guilty"

[@theluckygamer10]

@@Felixr2 *Cough cough* DL-6 *Cough cough HACK-* Great. I'm sick

[@thelastmlg2699]

@@Felixr2 "Guilty because someone has to be guilty but we don't know who so you are guilty until proven otherwise"

[@iamthetable8131]

That's how the Japanese courts work though

[@SlashoftheGreatnessOfficial]

@@Felixr2 yep, its either the witness is the murderer or the prosecutor is the murderer lmao wtf

[@DarkDay2012]

I love how there was no reaction to Phoenix Wright being knocked down by the sudden gust of wind from the witnesses hand

[@sketcher4362]

It's because it also happens in real life

[@lotusluminance5872]

All layers are airbenders, didn't you know that? Did gumfuck not tell you? *Salary cutting noises* You should take a look at this *updated airbending Report*

[@killerbug05]

@@lotusluminance5872 gumfuck is the absolute authority on air bending so he would definitely know, and if he doesn't know I sure hope he remembers he's up for review soon.

[@derp777_]

that just happens sometimes

[@AccountName_]

It is because that is not illegal in 49 states. (True fact, I checked).

[@aadithiyapillai]

"Why is the judge asking questions?" wait till he sees Manfred von Karma

[@jeremywilson3095]

Wait until his daughter starts using that whip on everyone in sight in the courtroom

[@darkkiller_2127]

Jeremy Wilson she’s his daughter? I thought she was his wife Edit: to everyone seeing this, please note that I thought that Franzika was about 35-40 when I first saw her.

[@jeremywilson3095]

Darkkiller _ Nah, the lovely Franny is his daughter. Going into the lore a little, she and Edgeworth basically grew up together.

[@darkkiller_2127]

Jeremy Wilson ah ok.

[@skelyboiisdumb]

Yes

[@paddythelegend1671]

If he thinks Payne is breaking a lot of rules... Payne is one of the cleanest procecutors in the series compared to everyone else.

[@jadedfire4351]

fr tho hahahah

[@TheUnsureFox]

Franziska: Laughs in whip striking all in the courtroom

[@GZilla311]

@@jadedfire4351 I mean, Gavin isn't too bad.

[@ChibGaming543]

Being a criminal is one hell of a rule break (Cough cough) Von Karma (Cough)

[@darkacadpresenceinblood]

​@@ChibGaming543 *cough cough Godot*

[@kirbstomp3945]

objection: a big part of the original game was to show how one-sided Japanese law is in favor of the prosecution

[@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat]

Which apparently is disturbingly close to reality...

[@timonix2]

@@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat If a case goes to court it's because they are really certain that they are going to win. But as a consequence a lot of cases never go to court at all.

[@jesseanimatess]

Considering a 14 year old ‘blind’ and ‘non english speaking’ boy got convicted all because his fingerprints are on a vent which was ‘the only way out’, I’d say this is quite accurate

[@shadowling77777]

@@jesseanimatess Bruh

[@arturoaguilar6002]

True. It’s a satire of the Japanese law system where things have been pushed so far into the absurd territory that it makes ones thankful for the constitutional rights that stop the real world from becoming like that.

[@KurtisC93]

"The defense, especially in a criminal case, bears no burden whatsoever." LOL you, sir, have no idea of the rabbit hole you just stepped into. In the world of Phoenix Wright, you are not innocent until proven guilty; you are not even guilty until proven innocent; you are guilty until someone else is proven guilty in your place. Yeah, not exactly a fair justice system.

[@Braithekaikiller]

*idiot dressed to go rob flashbacks*

[@charlesedwinbooks]

Actually this isn't 100% there are plenty of normal cases in the world of ace attorney where the true criminal isn't found. It just happens that the cases you play in the game are all radical suspense stories of murder. Nick Apollo Athena blackquil Payne and even Edgeworth take normal cases behind the scenes.

[@phoenix_flame2561]

Japan's legal system is also buttfucked. It's a situation where like 99.6% of defendents are proven guilty.

[@smallfry2567]

Judge:thank you for this evidence that 100% proves that the defendant is not guilty but who could be the culprit Defense:... I dont know Also judge: I DECLARE THAT THE DEFENDANT IS GUILTY 100% NO DOUBT ABOUT IT

[@KurtisC93]

@@charlesedwinbooks - I'm referring more to the cases where there's a defendant on trial, the ones you actually see play out.

[@schmooca]

“the prosecutor can’t just magically pull out some record and enter it into evidence, especially in the middle of an examination of a witness” edgeworth, with his updated autopsy report: well ain’t that a damn shame

[@jacen884]

Damn bro the autopsy report was outdated

[@simonghoul3602]

Have edgeworth dancing from the video instead

[@gavinkemp7920]

@@jacen884 yes but in that case It has to be established why the first report is wrong. In this case you have essentially two expert testimonies that are contradicting each other you have to know why.

[@apd_a4361]

Normal person: This comment is edited Edgeworth: This comment is *OuTDaTeD*

[@silvertipstudio9622]

I HAVE ANOTHER NEW AUTOPSY REPORT!

[@devdalwadi31]

“Theres no way you can prove theres a bullet in my shoulder!!!” Wright: laughs in convenient metal detector

[@crystalcarbon]

Well phoenix wright I'm sorry but the bullet worked in a chemical factory and has no finger prints How will you prove it now

[@andrearossi6564]

@@crystalcarbon OBJECTION! I am a lawyer!

[@Hollowstuff]

@@crystalcarbon haha RTGame moment

[@crystalcarbon]

@@andrearossi6564 Damn I guess the bullet got it's fingerprints back

[@itz_fuyumi-chan1556]

Judge: *Agrees with Wright and lets him use said detector* I believe in Judge Supremacy 🛐

[@randomguy2584]

This is like watching a martial artist reviewing an anime fight scene.

[@YTDeepshock]

Writing this one down, suggesting it to Buzzfeed.

[@RandalfElVikingo]

@@YTDeepshock There's a martial artist called Ramsey that sometimes reviews cartoons, McDojos and self defense videos

[@Enchantix00Sasori]

Well depends on which anime because some animes have realistic fight scenes. If you are talking about Naturo, Dragon Ball or Pretty Cure on the other hand than I think any human being would know that this is unrealistic and also you would be dead after like two minutes due to the fact that the characters can punch gigantic craters in the ground.

[@yocarter9221]

@@Enchantix00Sasori what about JoJo

[@xxcocohontas6934]

well damn lol

[@TimmyTam]

"The only time you want to bring up the autopsy report..." *Miles Edgeworth intensifies*

[@AbdulAhad0128]

*OUTDATED INTENSIFIES*

[@delusionalnoodles]

*GUMSHOE INTENSIFIES*

[@ancomoverheaven5307]

WHIPPING INTENSFIES

[@urmomoldchannel1768]

MANIPULATING TESTIMONIES INTENSIFIES

[@the_santa_stalker1378]

-TAKE THAT- -slamming table intensifies-

[@Baron4827]

Hah, if you think thats bad I can't wait til you meet Miles "Updated Autopsy Report" Edgeworth

[@robertoazuaje9279]

Or Manfred "hide evidence I don't want and intimidate the judge" von Karma.

[@pussinbootsisawesome]

Roberto Azuaje i hate that this is accurate to both manfred and franziska

[@Polarthief]

@@robertoazuaje9279 Manfred "the enlargement doesn't exist, and when it does exist, it isn't relevant" von Karma.

[@CodecrafterArtemis]

Or Franziska "I'm gonna just whip everyone" von Karma.

[@iamapieceoftrash9653]

@@ryyyysa Oh my God xD

[@devirianne710]

“Do you not have any evidence at this point?” Phoenix fought a trial when he didn’t even have a single memory at that point so-

[@starmada105]

Phoenix *won* a trial when he didn’t even have a single memory at that point so-

[@starsscapes]

​@@starmada105 phoenix won a trial when he didn't have a single memory AND got the same defendant acquitted after she was accused of murder AGAIN in a retrial that was needed because he didn't have a single memory of the trial (because he was being impersonated the first time)

[@zavtparticles6828]

US: "Innocent" until proven guilty PW:AA: Guilty until someone else is proven guilty Japan: Guilty until Proven guilty

[@solidsnakeandgrayfox]

Lmfao

[@OrangeNOrange]

XD

[@zidbits1528]

People always talk about Japan's high conviction rate, but Harvard Law did a study of their system and found that it's high because prosecution only moves forward with "sure thing" cases. They do this because Japan's court system is underfunded and understaffed. You can google the study for more info.

[@justjoking5252]

@@zidbits1528 Well that's even worse than the original problem...

[@justjoking5252]

@Tristan Basri I don't know where you got that particular opinion from, but you do you

[@douglasfreer]

Well in Japan the court can be boiled down to “guilty until proven innocent” since the general consensus is that if you got as far as being in court you most certainly did it.

[@aorusaki]

yup

[@sonario6489]

*laughs in America*

[@iknowyoursearchhistory]

Sonario648 ︻╦̵̵̿╤── g u n

[@legendarymarston9174]

seems...kind of excessive.

[@doubtful_seer]

LegendaryMarston there’s a reason the have such a high conviction rate.

[@Eclipse4589]

OBJECTION In Japan you can pull evidence out of nowhere legally

[@L16htW4rr10r]

Really? Wew

[@SuperMisteryMan01]

I see the intention with it but tbh it sounds like such a serious loophole

[@drcommondrate12]

L16htW4rr10r most of the time, sadly, yes specially when you are rich and male.

[@Dragonk116]

Yep it's part of it's legal system

[@seanthesock5063]

Wow i thought u where joking

[@claralima1967]

The storyline of Phoenix is actually very good in the games. He goes from believing that all clients are innocent and he needs to save them (taught by Mia, who accepts that her methods are limited and quite blinding at some point) to knowing that what matters is finding the truth so justice can be applied properly even if he is somehow connected to the case. It's really interesting the transition because the first game is basically in Phoenix's favor and every defendant is innocent, but then the second game introduces the idea that it might not be like that and the third throws in the personal factor, a real good story.

[@waldoman7]

Sooooo he goes from a good defense attorney to the world's worst defense attorney? That's his character arc?

[@claralima1967]

@@waldoman7 Hm, no? Being a good defense attorney isn't saving everyone, it's finding the truth and working with it. There's an entire case on the second game that touches exactly that

[@triparadox.c]

@@claralima1967 "Being a good defense attorney isn't saving everyone, it's finding the truth and working with it" Wrong. Being a good defense attorney is using every single tool that you have in order to prove in court that your client is innocent. That's it, nothing more and nothing less. It's never about "finding the truth". That's the duty for the judge and jury, not you as the defense attorney.

[@claralima1967]

@@triparadox.c Right. Can't argue with that. It's his job, even if the client is guilty and he knows it. I guess he is a bad defense attorney, after all. I might've gotten swept up by the game's narrative 🤷

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Makes me wonder what a defense attorney is supposed to do when during the trial they themselves are being convinced of the defendent's guilt. Would they have to let themselves dismissed due to conflict of interests?

[@FavianTubeX]

I really hope confetti is dropped from the ceiling when the verdict is announced in real court rooms

[@l.n.3372]

I think AA Investigations implied it's Gumshoe who cuts up the ticker tape for the confetti

[@penguinmaster1795]

@@l.n.3372 There was an official comic that shows that. I think ProZD did a dub of it

[@l.n.3372]

@@penguinmaster1795 It's also dialogue in AAI

[@luriv37]

Imagine a murderer getting death penalty and suddenly confetti starts dropping, what a mood changer

[@justcomments]

@@luriv37 omg, or that one trial where the defendant dies on the stand... woo! 🥳

[@ram4771]

*OBJECTION!* Anime characters can only wear one outfit! Unless, of course, they’re going to the beach.

[@shinysilverstardust]

Or to school or Church

[@bendystrawz2832]

Or have some kind of character arc, in which case the clothes/style can change with (hair included).

[@Sproutpies]

Nah Phoenix also wears the suit for the beach 😎

*One Piece laughs*

[@braydenk5180]

OBJECTION, THEY WEARE 2 OUTFITS AND A BEACH OUTFIT

[@moneygrabber6720]

Objection! By not reacting to the game, this witness is unable to give a reliable testimony. I move for dismissal

[@kylianlol13]

Sustained

[@tophu_]

Seconded.

[@thattonnatoguywithafez8246]

@fish cocaine Eh, you are given all the info, somewhat at start, you can re examine and inspect the case more easily, where as this, its going at a pace, now that pace may be good or bad, and at that it can leave out, different options or details.

[@thattonnatoguywithafez8246]

fish cocaine Read the above comment and first half of yours, now i see the second, sorry EDIT about not reacting to the game i mean

[@Cookie_dragon64]

@fish cocaine objection!still having diferences,so much of them!

[@UziMan-Science-Math]

"The prosecutor cant just pull out some evidence" Edgeworth: Legal Eagle.......... your autopsy is outdated.

[@kate_alt]

10:40 "Why is the judge asking questions?" Manfred von Karma: Exactly.

[@shourikaen.]

Manfred died 1year after final case in aa

[@kate_alt]

@@shourikaen. Yeah probably because he was framed for murder?

[@Serrifin]

@@kate_alt he did admit it tho

[@Lernos1]

@@kate_alt Actually, as we can see, there is usually a large gap between the sentence being announced and the execution (just like IRL). We see it in the case of Terry Fawles and... his girlfriend that inmates spend at least several years on death row. It probably means that von Karma died of old age, poor health or broken heart in detention.

[@c101vp]

@@Lernos1 people also say that he may have commited suicide

[@lunastie39]

OBJECTION! *slams table* There is a clear contradiction in this statement! *shows attorney badge*

[@brandondriver99]

I clicked it on accident on my last sliver of health on the Kidnapping case in Miles Edgeworth.

[@DragoCubX]

The classic move

[@user-fx2eg3cv6d]

detective gumshoe look this is my attorney's badge

[@snoopygamesandvlogs1033]

XD

[@updatedautopsyreport7358]

Brandon Driver oh no

[@ZackofSpades]

Welcome to Japan, where there's no discovery phase and no jury. Being a defense attorney in Japan is HARD, because the deck is stacked so heavily in favor of the prosecution of criminal matters. This game still has a ton of inaccuracies to the Japanese courts, I believe, but it does capture the spirit of how much of an absolute uphill battle it is to get an innocent verdict.

[@ToastyMozart]

If memory serves Japan's top defense attorney was famous for having like, *5* wins in court. Shit's pretty dire.

[@spymaster0035]

OBJECTION! While Japanese courts do, in fact, have notoriously high conviction rates a large part of this lies in case selection. Typically it's only the most blatantly guilty criminals who are even brought to court in the first place, meaning it's less an issue of the courts finding innocents guilty and more an issue of the courts primarily only dealing with the guilty.

[@truedarklander]

@@spymaster0035 that's not true either, the reason why few cases make it to court is because Japanese police os known for extorting confessions from people who are held without trial for months.

[@Miyakolover]

@@truedarklander Last time I checked, a suspect can be held for 23 days ...NOT months....because if the police doesn't have any evidence by then, you can't submit the case to court.

[@lessevilnyarlathotep1595]

@@Miyakolover thats not true even of the US (one word: Guantanamo) 🤣 if a rule doesnt get enforced is it even a rule?

[@Jared-cm2wv]

I know it's an older video, but I wanted to clarify a couple of points. The legal system in Ace Attorney is very loosely based on the Japanese system. It's partially a satire of real elements of their system (like a less consistent pretrial discovery, which used to not be practiced at all in Japanese courts), but mostly a system designed to make each case an interesting uphill battle for the player. The Ace Attorney games are set in a dystopian alternate reality where the murder rate is so high that the government has responded in two ways: by assuming the guilt of the defendant (which is why Phoenix was trying to prove his client's innocence) and by putting a *three day time limit* on trials, giving the attorneys very little time to defend their clients.

[@kiraina25]

Technically speaking these three day trials are a _filtering_ mechanism; anyone found guilty at these trials are held for a more formal hearing at a higher court (the Judge references this in most game over messages).

[@clarabstract]

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[@gwillis01]

Thank you for a detailed, excellent post. Jared.

[@sharrkan9177]

Okay, seriously. I wish I’d gotten to see him reacting to that one time Phoenix handed Miles his badge, and somehow that meant he could be a defense attorney instead of a prosecutor now.

[@EllentheGreat_1]

When did that happen?

[@EllentheGreat_1]

Wait, do you mean case 5 game 3?

[@tash7666]

@@larrybutz1391 yes

[@_namiedits_939]

Larry Butz Wait , what are you doing watching a KZbin video

[@JessCArtist]

Hell, even a cardboard cutout is enough to become a defense attorney, as seen with the third case in the third game (no details due to spoilers).

[@ilikedsbm]

Wait till he sees Phoenix cross examining a parrot and radio, and Fanziska using a whip in court

[@erikaz1590]

Or the witness who brought a sword to the witness stand. Or Blackquill who is apparently throwing knives or daggers at people, or Godot who throws ceramic mugs full of hot coffee at people. And then there was the one guy who somehow brought a bomb!

[@theblackantonio]

And a whale.

[@defnotanaltacc3271]

And...The prosecutor...banging his head..to the...yeah..

[@jasonm.r765]

He would be furious at whoever made the franzisca von karma whip a thing

[@Talonistrying]

@@erikaz1590 and Franziska Von Karma, who is, FOR SOME REASON, allowed to not only bring a whip to court, but to hit people with it, including the judge.

[@williameldridge9382]

Objection: Anime/manga characters consistently wear the same thing in all scenes. This is a common trope.

[@m_diae]

William Eldridge you should see Phoenix when he’s a hobo in Apollo justice... dude, I love your camera beanie, where can I get one?

[@genos684]

objection sustained... hee

[@weichang9693]

420th like

[@CyberLance26]

Does not animated characters in general wear the same clothes most of the time? Its the same on American and European cartoons.

[@silverdamascus2023]

Also, it's a way to save money and memory when making the videogame, since it's not that easy to redraw sprites for all characters with different clothes.

[@cosmefulanito6854]

I love how many things he's questioning about Ace Attorney in just the first 5 minutes. Like, how do we tell this guy that we'll have a parrot as a witness in a later case? Or the use of mystic arts on trial? We had ghosts too

[@flstep835]

What about a full blown trial on a fu*king train with Edgeworth via zoom call or whatever that was???

[@cosmefulanito6854]

@@flstep835 Well, that was anime filler, so at least that one can be blamed on the anime studio rather than on the series (not like the actual series is beyond doing that, though)

[@v1ncebuthesjesus135]

“He shouldn’t be wearing the same clothes he wore on the day of the murder.” Oh poor LegalEagle. Larry literally always wears that.

[@duncan954]

I see you like total drama

[@melodythewolfqueen3558]

Except that one time he wore a Santa costume.

[@reaperdestt5099]

To be honest, Larry is the only character that changes his clothes almost every game he appears in

[@zyul6420]

OBJECTION! Wright does say he got the badge a couple months and that this will be his first real trial. It's not his first day but his first real trial.

[@bobatea8038]

What! Impossible

[@nitroplasma788]

N-NO WAY!

[@notajalapeno4442]

nani

[@claudioandino3199]

So it's confirmed now

[@thatonefuyu]

Ma-MASAKA

[@dwayneduphraine7024]

Everyone else here: I wanna see him react to Phoenix cross-examining a parrot and Edgeworth's updated autopsy report Me: I wanna see him react to the guy who plead guilty to a robbery charge so he could double-jeopardy his way out of a murder charge

[@LespaulMr]

"the guy who plead guilty to a robbery charge so he could double-jeopardy his way out of a murder charge" - where can I find that? Thanks

[@dwayneduphraine7024]

@@LespaulMr Ace Attorney 3, season 2 of the anime. There's also a guy who straight up impersonates Phoenix so he can frame someone else and give them an intentionally bad defense.

[@OptimusPhillip]

I know a lot of people don't understand double-jeopardy, but this is just ridiculous

[@ianfinrir8724]

Didn't Phoenix also illegally wiretap a witness?

[@Jack574.]

Nah, I wanna see him react to Phoenix performing a straight up exorcism in the court during the Trials and Tribulations finale.

[@phoenyck]

"The defence attorney here isn't trying to show that the witness in particular committed the murder. All he has to do is show that there is a reasonable doubt that his client did." *Laughs in the entire game structure*

[@AstralArbourSys]

Mr Wright if you cant prove this witness is guilty in 10 minutes then your client is no matter how much evidence says they aren't

[@chicken_salt722]

Wait till he meets the physically abusive prosecutors

[@OneToxicPixel]

Whips, hot coffee and whatever Blackquill is doing. The wiki says he is using his fingers since he obviously is not allowed to carry any weapons, but I call bs on that

[@Crystal_saga]

OneToxicPixel I always thought it would be a feather!

[@valkyrie_therianlife8053]

C h I c k e n s a l t

[@updatedautopsyreport7358]

OneToxicPixel 😂 and like necklaces from “sad monk”

[@Talonistrying]

@@OneToxicPixel and tasers!

[@wittykittywoes]

Objection: actually I don’t have one I just wanna say nice tie

[@iamsky3008]

@holpy opiniões TAKE THAT! *all of LegalEagle’s earnings*

[@rajivasal4928]

@HQ I wonder if he's ever channeled Lionel Hutz and said: "How about that! I looked something up! These books behind me don't just make the office look good, they're filled with useful legal tidbits just like that!"

[@solared]

TAKE THAT!

[@immortalsun]

It’s so long!

[@immortalsun]

@HQ It’s just a visually appealing, classy background. It’s not that deep.

[@KeoniPhoenix]

First Rule of Lawyering: Tell your Client to Shut Up. Second Rule of Lawyering: If Client continues to speak, repeat rule 1.

[@feathertail2891]

Rule number 3, don't go near the judge or jury during the trial; the bailiff will tackle you. Rule number 4, you can't make argument whenever you want, do it during closing arguments. Rule number 5, don't piss off the judge.

[@nkhelaifecteau522]

Third rule: what are you doing here, go back to rule 1

[@toaky4948]

Third rule: repeat rule 2

[@Roodneyfb]

And if you think your work is done, than start back at one.

[@Topaz_Estrella]

OBJECTION! Not once did I hear anyone say, "if something smells, it's probably the Butz." How can anyone properly react without this critical line?

[@tillydill]

thats what I am saying

[@doopythespoopy6995]

Woo boy, I wonder how he would've reacted to the prosecution legit withholding an updated autopsy report from the defense

[@Stilgarsan]

True. When he said the prosecution can't just whip out evidence whenever they please, I was immediately thinking of Miles Edgeworth.

[@so0meone]

"Your honor, I would like to cross-examine the witness's pet parrot" - Phoenix Wright

[@ihappydawnz]

lol i wished he got to that part of the anime

[@hitkid2456]

Everyone: ..............

[@ghaniKSW2]

Von Karma: i know i suggested it but wtf

[@lonelym4ge]

don't forget the Orca too

[@KumaoftheForest]

The irony that IRL a parrot was used to put away his mobster owner

[@bernieswim]

11:30 - The prosecutor can't just whip out evidence in the middle of an investigation. Me: That's all Phoenix Wright does!

[@Eneriah]

Have you met my friend, the updated autopsy report?

[@Eneriah]

Have you met my friend, the updated autopsy report?

[@Merlin1908]

"Why whip out evidence, if you can whip the defense?" Franziska von Karma

[@keitoimon]

they can if they say that before the case it didn't seems relevant. they only have to pass on " relevant" evidence.

[@Eneriah]

@@Merlin1908 "Why throw out bad arguments when you can throw coffee at the defense?"

[@TheNathand1996]

OBJECTION! This is just a small thing, and I'm sure you may have heard this before. But in the games Phoenix Wright DOES talk to Larry for a bit before the trial starts. Being honest, the games have more to show and possibly tell than the Anime. A single case story in a game can take up to ten hours, so they had to narrow it down to either twenty minutes or a multi part episode.

[@kiraina25]

The anime also skips over a short scene where Phoenix considers objecting to Larry taking the stand, but decides not to because of his philosophy of "believe in the defendant's innocence".

[@ppcrusader5282]

Wait till he sees a man drinking 17 coffees in the court

[@user-bj5ki6sr6c]

16. The last one is thrown to the defense

[@perttutunkkari3275]

@@user-bj5ki6sr6c 15/5 half a cup goes to the defense

[@soyjackz]

*Objection!* Im pretty sure its 16. The last one that made it 17 was thrown at Mr. Wright. Heres math for you. 16+ 16, So 1+1 is 2. 6+6 is 12. So that makes it 32 coffee cups that armando diego has dranken in the court. So there it is. My Mathematics Objection.

[@shadowling77777]

@@soyjackz Isn’t that assault

[@miafey3350]

@Shadow Ling he surely didn't get charged for it.

[@RagnarokiaNG]

"The prosecutor can't pull out evidence during a witness testimony that has nothing to do with that information" Manfred Von Karma objects in the sternest possible yell.

[@OddThings]

OBJECTION: CALL THE VERDICT NOW. IT'S BEEN 3 MINUTES. GO ON JUDGE, SLAM THAT GAVEL.

[@Ulysses626]

Demon voice: OBJECTION

[@RemyWillard]

@Huhnet Don't forget to snap your fingers, either before or after shouting in a demon voice.

[@jj48]

"Trials take months, sometimes years, to litigate..." If I recall correctly, the games explicitly addressed this by saying legislation had been passed requiring all trials to conclude in three days (and presumably, they all start the day after someone is arrested, which is generally within hours of the crime being discovered).

[@Distant_Dubstep]

He likely knows that and was just informing the average joe watching this of how long it actually takes

[@mirjana.milinkovic]

*"Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?"*

[@Rapidashisaunicorn]

I don’t think that fact was mentioned in the anime, only the games

[@pomegranate10017]

oh my god thats another reason he should react to the game NOT the anime.

[@LadyTsuki]

I agree with others that I wish he'd reacted to the games and not the anime. The games do a far better job of explaining this combined USA/Japanese legal system. As I remember, trials are only allowed to take 3 days in the games. This was due to the fact the courts were overloaded with various cases and this was their solution to speed things along. I don't agree with it, but yeah, that's how they did it. If I had the lawyer education, I'd happily react to the games, as I quite enjoy them. Then again, Phoenix Wright does go into supernatural territory with one character being a medium, another having some power to read emotions (I think?) and there was even some "memories of the dead" mechanic in the latest iteration. Either way, the games are at least fun, even if not realistic at all.

[@stargateMimhi]

Man, he would so disturbed to learn just how much of this is actually accurate to Japanese law.

[@Krushak8888]

It is?

[@Xilladan093]

​@@Krushak8888 thats the whole point. Do ur research. Satire on how messed up it is

[@Krushak8888]

@darren6458 the issue with doing my research is, I could find articles for and against. It is legitimately fine to ask someone to show me what they mean. You don't have to be a dick about it.

[@HoneyBunchesMcLover]

The Japanese legal system has an INSANELY HIGH conviction rate, so I always took this as a satire of that - guilty until proven innocent.

[@TLAF923]

guilty until someone else is guilty

[@ogeid772]

@@TLAF923 remember when Phoenix proved Will Powers was innocent in The Turnabout Samurai, but the trial kept going until he proved who the real killer was? It really is guilty until someone else is proven guilty

[@Jack_Ss]

Speaking of anime and the Japanese legal system I can’t wait till the lawyer character in jujutsu kaisen gets adapted

[@Sydney_Angelyt]

@@Jack_Ss aren’t these games like 20 years old? when did the anime start?

[@knicknevin9975]

The dark side of that conviction rate being police who conspire with prosecutors to hide evidence, manipulate witnesses, or even fabricate evidence. And, of course, the fact that if the prosecution cannot 100% guarantee a conviction they simply won't prosecute. Charges get dropped, the incident gets buried, and with civil law in Japan being what it is, you can't even try and pressure them with the news or social media or you'll get sued for libel. Because in Japan, it's still libel, even if it's true. Sometimes especially if it's true.

[@RyanGButler]

Objection, the legal system in Ace Attorney does not operate under the law that states a defendant is innocent until proven guilty. Rather than the defense attorney needing to prove reasonable doubt, the prosecutor simply needs to cast reasonable suspicion.

[@pakacha8999]

*TAKE THAT!*

[@snovaspectre2]

Order! Order in the court!

[@oceanstarch]

or as they say in a different franchise... *_SORE WA CHIGAU YO!_*

[@qhostloop6330]

@Noah Hastings NANI?!?!

[@laworder5861]

øv3r_ mïdñïght my danganronpa soul loves you tbh

[@rey-qd1yw]

LegalEagle: "And he's apparently wearing the same thing that he was wearing on the day of the murder." Me: It's called anime logic, something you don't question.

[@bendystrawz2832]

Clothes are part of the personality. It doesn't change unless there's a character arc.

[@lolface_9363]

Kevin Meeker or you are Rohan kishibe

[@reddpoint3788]

@@bendystrawz2832 *OBJECTION!* There are other instances when an anime character can change clothes! Such as when they go to the school or the beach!

[@zarabatanaproductions9240]

Also a bunch of other shows have characters using the same clothes all the time.

[@crocyoin1886]

And luffy and his crew apparently have a whole closet full of clothes

[@nyx7664]

"The prosecutor can't just magically pull out some record and enter it into a evidence" - Actually, in Japan, they totally can! Japan uses an inquisitorial legal system as opposed to the U.S and U.K's Adversarial Legal system, which means things such as the judge having a much greater hand in not only evidence gathering, but evidence presentation (They can even question and interrogate defendants and witnesses) but also evidence can be entered during a trial, precedent also has much less of an impact there and judges have a wider discretion on giving punishments! It kind of lives up to the moniker of "Inquisitorial" to be honest, the trial itself places an emphasis on "discovery of the truth" as opposed to the adversarial system, where everything is more or less known and entered into the court records beforehand and the key purpose of the trial is "winning versus losing".

[@thediethrower1803]

Of course the reality is that they usually just go "guilty" and move on

[@Monorakun]

Can't believe that i understood everything. Finally, law school is playing off after 3 years

[@bensherinian3599]

This makes a little more sense if you knew Japanese court primarily: lack of jury, showing evidence without discovery, and the judge gets the verdict.

[@dutchclark7205]

Objection! The Japanese bar does actually issue pins to lawyers that must be returned if they are disbarred. They have a sort of attorney id number on the back and everything. I think that's just one of those different national legal system things.

[@DaBeezKneez]

objection: relevance, cause for speculation

[@hazeltree7738]

@@DaBeezKneez Objection overruled, the relevance is earlier on the episode when Law Falcon said they don't give badges. No speculation is present, it's a real rule.

[@DEMIxGODxSHADOW]

Objection? It also takes a while to get a badge so it's not like phoenix is brand new at this.

[@thatnorwegianguy1986]

@@DEMIxGODxSHADOW OBJECTION all lawyers even new ones get badges www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2015/02/23/issues/badges-honor-japans-legal-lapel-pins-really-mean/#.XmwI8nIo-Uk

[@DEMIxGODxSHADOW]

@@thatnorwegianguy1986 all trial lawyers. The person posting the same article I was going off of starts by saying he just got his after 2 years of working in law. First trial but he would have been working in law likely for a while unless he is some kind of prodigy which again I think in part calls question to the inexperienced comment at the beginning of the video

[@Coaster42]

Me: Oh cool, a lawyer playing Ace Attorney Also me: *Clicks video* Video: *is anime* Me: *surprised Pikachu*

[@jamiemations12]

Lol the whole game is base off the anime

[@jamiemations12]

@kite man really!? Oh oops

[@winkmink7709]

Nick Rekieta is not only playing the game. He also voice dubs it. Peak quality.

[@DrMoonRose]

@@jamiemations12 the anime is based off the game that came out in the early 2000s I believe 2001 but I could be wrong

[@asheslegends2576]

@@DrMoonRose You're not. Even this guy (sorry, first video) did state at the beginning of the video that the anime was based on the game.

[@noname-wr4qf]

Objection, this is pure gold compared to episode 2, where they call on the murder victim through the accused murderer as a defence

[@pokedash1221]

Well technically no one(except Phoenix) is really aware of that happening in the first place. Also at that point Phoenix was the one being accused.

[@Lugnal]

​@pokedash1221 isn't there one later trial where Lady Von Karma took a picture of either Pearl or Maya as they were channeling Mia to prove that their spiritual ability is substantial? I think it was to refute Phoenix's argument that Maya did not murder the victim because she didn't have a motive.

[@chewy9843]

11:26 The prosecution just can't magically pull out a record and enter it as evidence Edgesworth: Laughs in *updated autopsy report*

[@axelowo2411]

QwQ

[@pogggaming4470]

And he also ballerina dances when that happens

[@reddpoint3788]

Von Karma: *Tazed the defense attorney and stole evidence*

[@joeass2399]

Stolen

[@apollojustice5338]

Umm actually...

[@Zenriesz]

"you'd never wear a t-shirt and crazy hair to court" Phoenix: Watch this. *Cross examines a parrot and an Orca*

[@Swellowing]

Tell md what case is the dolphin

[@tantris2876]

@@Swellowing the DLC case in Dual Destines and it’s the 5th game excluding spin-offs

[@grosebud4721]

@@Swellowing she’s actually an orca

[@prometheanrebel3838]

still an oversize murder dolphin.

[@emidiezdelasierra9694]

* an orca

[@7ylerD]

Yeah, that whole “reasonable doubt” stuff doesn’t really fly in Japanese courts. It’s basically “either the defendant committed the crime, or someone else did. And I don’t *see* anyone else, sooo...” Lol

[@TARINunit9]

Are you basing that off AwkwardZombie? Or was Katie's satire actually right on the money?

[@alchemicpunk1509]

Once you research it it becomes shocking how accurate Ace Attourney is.

[@ReginaldVonSir]

Yeah conviction rates in Japan are insanely high over there

[@salutemeorsh00tme]

ReginaldVonSir the biggest reason for that is that prosecutors have a very low budget. Thus, they only take the people with the highest chance of being found guilty to court. It's not because their prosecutors are extremely good, just that they only try the most slam-dunk cases.

[@mrtannzr]

salutemeorsh00tme what about the unclear cases?

[@ashleysvoboda8331]

Since I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, the keychain at 3:01 signifies the friendship between Phoenix, Larry (the defendant), and Edgeworth (one of the prosecutors in later episodes). As children, they all enjoyed a TV show called Signal Samurai, so as a sign of their friendship, they each hold a keychain depicting one of Signal Samurai's three color-coded protagonists (Phoenix has the blue one, Larry has the yellow one, and Edgeworth has the red one). The keychains make several appearances throughout the series to consistently remind you that their friendship still holds strong, even in adulthood.

[@WolfofKaos]

OBJECTION! An important thing to note about Ace Attorney is that the whole franchise is one big satire on the Japanese justice system, which was way less fair than our own. The prosecutor getting more say on the trial and the defense lawyer getting effectively dissed throughout? That's accurate to Japan, as prosecutors are given much more influence because they served directly under Judges, who were considered royalty at a period of time (that's the gist of the reason at least). And the Japanese very much had a "guilty unless proven innocent" approach to their courts, and there was no benefit of doubt. If you're convicted of a crime in Japan you *will* receive punishment (which, in the case of murder, would most likely be execution, as Japan still practices that) unless there's 100% without doubt that you're innocent, or someone else was proven to be guilty of the crime/outright confessed to it, hence why Phoenix tries so hard to prove Mr. Sahwit was the real murderer; not only was it freaking blatant, but too often it's the only way for a defense lawyer to prove their client innocent Indeed, one of the main creators of Ace Attorney is a Japanese Defense Lawyer, who in the span of 25 years only managed to prove FIVE of his clients innocent! And that's considered exceptionally successful, as most Japanese Defense Lawyers don't ever win a case in their entire careers. As you can imagine, he helped create this franchise to show just how thick-headed the court system in Japan is, which thankfully worked in some aspects as "court jury's" had been implemented after the first three games, to which a fourth game was made to promote the jury system (which people were having doubts of) by being the sole reason the "main villain" gets arrested, as he destroyed a crucial piece of evidence and would've escaped punishment despite being blatantly guilty of the given crime Of course, other legal inaccuracies in Ace Attorney are done in order to make the games more fun and engaging, namely how evidence is utilized. In order to progress and ultimately win the games, you have to present specific evidence that contradicts a given statement in a witnesses testimony (think in terms of a puzzle game: you have to figure out which statement is false and what evidence shows the witness to he lying). That's why the prosecutor and defense are able to just pull out and insert new evidence in the middle of the trial; it's to stay accurate to the games (though I wouldn't be surprised if real Japanese prosecutors did that kind of crap, since they are determined to "win" court cases at all costs, and would get away with it because of the aforementioned privilege) All that said, this was a great watch lol I've always been curious as to how real life lawyers would take to Ace Attorney, and your response did not disappoint XD If you take suggestions, would you make a video on "12 Angry Men"? Although, if you don't mind me asking, why are you "reviewing" certain media involving the legal system when your channel is otherwise all about law school?

[@Tali2161Zorah]

The death sentence in Japan is very rare for cases of single murders and usually only applied to multiple murders. That mistake makes me feel like I need to ask for a source on the rest of this.

[@WolfofKaos]

@@Tali2161Zorah Ooooohhhhh lol I did not know about that 😅 I got the impression that Japan applies the death sentence to any murders, since they already have/had a very one-sided court system. But that's a LOT more reasonable. Thanks for the correction

[@jevonbatti]

Legal Eagle should read this comment

[@camzoman]

I think he's done 12 angry men in his general movies episode.

[@Jay-ti7wm]

@@jevonbatti Didn't he say something about saying "objection" if you'd like to argue back about how he viewed the anime?

[@dylandreisbach1986]

Considering this game has literal spirit mediums it’s not exactly going for realism.

[@goodiesohhi]

Spirit mediums and psychics have been used by American Police before. It was a very controversial thing.

[@imraanakollo-arenz1449]

Don't forget cross examining a parrot

[@krysal1489]

@@imraanakollo-arenz1449 animals have been used as witnesses before too.

[@RandalfElVikingo]

Are you triggered?

[@clemente3966]

Waiting to hear about someone using an emotion matrix in a court to complete the series tbh

[@TheFrostedfirefly]

Was..... kinda hoping he was reacting to the game. Not the anime...

[@skeleboi2646]

Ikr

[@GayAndDog]

TheFrostedfirefly Same

[@enzoesposito9929]

Ikr, celestial tofu

[@PanDiman]

It's much easier this way though. Besides, the plot is mostly the same.

[@sorashirogane7039]

Yeah,but the downside is the pacing.From what I heard,they compressed Ace Attorney 1 and Justice for All into one season.Which...kinda sucks,actually.If you're making an anime adaptation of a visual novel-type game,i say give us more episodes to focus on all the details of the games,and even include some laughs as well,such as the ladder vs stepladder banter.

[@chaseteel251]

The show should get extra credit for that bit where the bailiff restrains Butz during one of his outbursts. As you said on several videos, the bailiff can and will tackle you.

[@XxDestxX]

Larry: *Say something* LE: S H U T U P. . Oh boy, Oldbag are going to be something.

[@benedict.v.dharma8729]

Ratatattatatt

[@Efreeti]

Huff! Puff!

[@Miguel-bs6kh]

LE is basically edgeworth

[@sesilliasandra2820]

Lotta Hart probably gonna be troubled either

[@shami5enwow]

"Dress for the job you want, not the prison cell you have." - Best life advice I've ever heard

[@Hayseus712]

Interestingly enough, not only is the legal system in Phoenix Wright completely unrelated to the U.S. legal system, it's actually a full on PARODY of the Japanese legal system, which gives incredible power to prosecutors (to the point that nearly all cases end in Guilty verdicts) and basically just assumes guilt most of the time from what I understand. The bizarre nature of the system in Ace Attorney is meant to satire and caricaturize the Japanese legal system in a cheeky attempt to poke holes in it and make more people aware of its flaws in Japan.

[@srkibble]

I don't think that's what Phoenix Wright is attempting to do, unless you have a quote from one of the developers or something, I think it's just trying to be entertaining. The legal system in Japan has an over 99% conviction rate, but it's not because they're harsh necessarily, it's because prosecutors get like 20 cases a day or something, and they only bother prosecuting the 2 or 3 that look 100% guilty. The rest they just let off.

[@NeoCreo1]

srkibble No, this guy’s right. One of the designers of the game was a 25 year defense attorney, and in that time he got only 5 not guilty verdicts. Which is considered amazing work, as most don’t get any in their entire career. Look up the Japanese justice system, it really is incredibly unfair and weighted against the defendant (for one, it follows guilty until proven innocent).

[@bigchungus4722]

@@NeoCreo1 What's the name of the designer that got the verdicts?

[@masteroak9724]

That's true, I've read about it in the past.

[@mauroquartuccio6088]

Greggity wow this is cool

[@coffinmyface4237]

Objection: the game is lawyering the Japanese legal system as its incredibly archaic and the best lawyer in Japan only successfully defended six clients, because once your trail has reached court in Japan it tends to be that you've basically already been considered guilty as it's almost impossible to actually win a Japanese court case

[@Twisttheawesome]

Ace Attorney actually began as a bitter parody of the Japanese judicial system. At the time trials were seen as being incredibly rushed and unfair to defendants - hence the two day trial limit and everything being "guilty" or "not guilty". It's an element of dystopian parody that was lost in translation

[@Melphisto_]

The parody was instantly lost as soon as we went from the original Japan to Neo-California in our localizations.

[@SigmaExcel]

Yeah

[@Goldude]

*Three days. There's a three day timeline. 1-3 and 1-4 are both three days.

[@orang3121]

@@Goldude and 1-5

[@rootbeerdrinker609]

@@Goldude Let is be stated for the court that the game also gives the information at the beginning of the first game about the 3-day trial limitation. (*Sweats* because the defense may be misremembering information)

[@SKyrim190]

The way the game works is even more bizarre from a legal perspective. There are some cases where at a certain point you have proven the innocence of your client, going way beyond a reasonable doubt, but then the judge is basically like "well...then who did it? Guilty!"

[@maskedbadass6802]

LMAO so true hermano!

[@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447]

In another you prove the "innocence" of a guilty client, and have a witness arrested more or less for colluding with said client.

[@noyusa7894]

Trust me.. judges in japan usually do this. High guilty cases are in japan too.

[@caslaBBalsac]

That's because it ACTUALLY works like that in Japan, where the games are made.

[@alexanderlloydmendoza979]

Like the case with will powers where you could prove that he was druged and thus slept through the whole murder but edgeworth was like " dur dee dur that doesnt prove the people in the trailer were the killer" while in my mind "obviously it doesnt but it does prove that he didnt do it and thus wont be liable for the murder. My job is to prove he didnt do it not find the one who did it"

[@d3-ll754]

No kinds of counterarguments. I just want to say, as someone who's only played the games and not watched the anime, it's REALLY weird hearing Prosecutor Payne with a normal voice and not his screeching bird-esque voice. XD

[@LaranJOOJ]

That Payne's OBJECTION...

[@louise4152]

*_OBJECTION!!_*

[@caslaBBalsac]

Not really, Von Karma doesn't sound like a Demon either.

[@multikioske8044]

Karma: OB JEC TION!

[@mikeock184]

I always imagined payne with a sniviling weasle voice

[@Tyler-cm6vk]

I think Legal Eagle will be surprised to know that here in Japan, once you get sued, the possibility to be found guilty is 99.99%.

[@karsten69]

LegalEagle: litigation could take months Ace Attorney: you have 3 days.

[@vilotdarkmanner6801]

Wellllllllllllllllllll

[@salman_rudro07]

@Stevie P, you copied a comment.

[@nicedesu6760]

@@salman_rudro07 it’s an opinion shared by many, plus many people have bought the game and like it better

[@oscargimblett1990]

"You wouldn't want to be defending someone you know, in case you could be a witness" OH BOY

[@Felixr2]

I feel like Phoenix at this point has defended pretty much everyone he knows, including himself.

[@AE86FTS]

@@Felixr2 Representing oneself is allowed, even without a law degree. But yes, many of the cases involve Nick representing a defendant he knows or it's a crime he was a direct witness to, which is a big no-no

[@jesseanimatess]

atleast phoenix only saw the victim after they were murdered, Apollo had a man die on his lap... soooooooooo

[@LaserShark123]

@@jesseanimatess "Never goin' back to that strip club again..."

[@cheesewizard3965]

Having an expert on the judicial system analyze how accurate Phoenix Wright is to actual due process is like watching a plumber analyze how accurate Mario is to fixing a pipe

[@DeathnoteBB]

The game is based on how fucked the Japanese legal system is though. Very exaggerated potentially, but the point was to show how fucked it is. So it’s not having an expert analyze it that’s the problem, the problem is he’s not an expert in Japanese law.

[@DeathnoteBB]

Mrs. Lop3z Okay I could be wrong but it’s my understanding that 1. That’s literally a law in Japan (and it’s only “Japanifornia” in the English localization. It’s just set in Japan) 2. The game was made specifically to exemplify how bs that specific law was.

[@thesuperdigitalentertament1374]

I WANNA SEE THAT SO BAD!

[@scouthernandez8050]

I think the difference tho is that Phoenix Wright attempts to make a game out of lawyering and the legal system (as exaggerated or wacky as it might be), whereas Mario isn't really a game about plumbing

[@superAmaster]

It's not something to get bothered about lol

[@cherrybee95]

Objection! You said that nobody would take an attorney who had never been in a trial before for their homicide case but this can be overlooked considering who the the defendant is: Larry butz, due to Larry's unconditional belief in Wright as soon as he found out he was a lawyer (and got himself in legal trouble) I can say with 100% certainty he would call phoenix

[@X-SPONGED]

Voicecrack McGee is least of the problematic prosecutors when you have Miles "Updated Autopsy Report" Edgeworth, German Girl with a BDSM Kink, Caffeine Addict Robocop, and Manfred "Chemical Factory" Von Karma. Edit : Can't forget The Literal Death Row Convict who somehow prosecuted in court

[@shininggyrados9311]

Cant forget Manfred "I'm the Judge too" Von Karma

[@cachis1130]

And guitarist that can play an air guitar with actual music coming from it.

[@kaybadberg534]

@@cachis1130 he’s the best prosecutor. Wdym

[@screamingfalcon71]

Or the death row inmate with his paralegal hawk.

[@driving.me.crazy_]

Edgeworth: *updates it ONE time* Everybody: haha updated autopsy report go brrr

[@leefitzgerald8765]

"[Representing your friend] can be VERY problematic. You don't want your emotions to get in the way of your trial." Oh boy you ain't seen nothin' yet.

[@mmoVSmmo]

He should be reviewing the final case of any game.

[@mishaalpatel194]

He should meet Maya...

[@lululala4530]

OH BOY... ALL OF THE SPIRITS OF JUSTICE CASE ARE NUTCASE... FOR HIM.. BECAUSE ANIME LOGIC THAT'S WHY...

[@cofeespear4992]

Objection! The anime does skip some key parts of the cases, in the game you actually do talk to your client before the trial. Also each case in-game takes place within 3 days cause in-game it used to take too long to get to each case and finish it so it was shortened to 3 days so that's the main reason the cases seem so rushed and unrealistic in the anime while making perfect sense in the game.

[@nathanieldardar4295]

I'm pretty sure Phoenix doesn't talk to Larry beforehand i the game either.

[@alejandromomota6934]

Nathaniel DarDar you’re right. I played it a few months ago and he didn’t

[@silverbuck9998]

He does talk to the buttz before the trial.... buuuuuut he just keeps crying about wanting to die

[@KLo1922]

Nathaniel DarDar he doesish

[@concaveUsurper]

Not to mention the whole point of the series is how corrupt and unfair the system is to defendants. Phoenix is looking to help make it fair for them, hence why he (usually) only helps innocent people.

[@leachristine5264]

"Have you not spoken to your client?" Welcome to Ace Attorney

[@obseed3041]

I love how he doesn't react at the over the top animations at all like how Phoenix just got blown away when Sahwit pointed at him like an airbender and how Sahwit's mouth foamed before fainting. Probably because the constitutional violations he witnessed are much more ridiculous.

[@leratoemeldahkgwedi2042]

"Dress for the job you want, not the prison cell you have..." - LegalEagle (I don't OBJECT to this quote, I laughed so hard.)

[@EvilPaladin11]

Sustained

[@Kryspycoop]

*OBJECTION* It is legal in Japan to bring in evidence that wasn't arranged to be in the case.

[@AjarTadpole7202]

yes but hes only looking at it from a American pov

[@Kryspycoop]

@@AjarTadpole7202 *TAKE THAT* But he says that's a mistake when the game is based half Japanese half American making it a thing that's fine to put in the game.

[@AjarTadpole7202]

@@Kryspycoop Yes but he also said since he knows nothing about the Japanese Legal System he would be looking at it from the perspective of the American Legal System

[@francescobertaglia8985]

@@AjarTadpole7202 HOLD IT that's why he asked to correct him in the comment section

[@AjarTadpole7202]

@@francescobertaglia8985 Correct, Not Dictate.