The real impact of DEI in gaming

[@LegendaryDrops]

I need to make a correction for something I failed to convey in the first section. Most of the skills issues these companies face likely come from their massive growth initiatives where they hired on a lot of people. It's the speed these companies grew and their use of supplemental training that caused the wide majority of issues. Catch me live: www.twitch.tv/legendary_drops

[@idleeidolon]

The problem is that videogame consulting firms are in bed with supposed games journalists. Imagine those OSHA construction consultants being in bed with not just the regulators but also with media.

[@SWOTHDRA]

To say DEI is only greed is an huge understatement. Its about an Ideology that actually thinks the are right and everybody else is wrong. Not only wrong they think we are evil and everybody should think like them. You say companies get money, but why do they get money? And from who? They getvmoney from black rock and black rock already has all the money they could ever have! This is about power, this is about controlling people. Black rock wants to destroy the fabric of society so that society is easier to control. And tokenism is very powerfull, we currently have an Indian woman, raised in Canada being paraded around as a black woman and therefore she should be president. And if you dont like it, you are racist, and me , as a blk man, Im being called sexist. Not by twitter wok weirdos, No By Former president Obama! This , this is the true end game of Dei. If everybody is always concerned with identity, then you can simply always win elections and therefore power, if you just put somebody on the ticket, that looks like the peopl you want votes from. And the whites they are gonna vote for that person too because they dont wann be seen as racists or bigots. DEI and ESG go way farther and way deeper then corporate greed or gaming. Thats why you see it in all entertainment. Especially in popular entertainment. They know they wont be able to brai wash older people so they start with the youth. At schools, then in gaming, then in popular IP's of shows or movies. And next thing you know, 30 years from now, all you have to do is put a disabled, gay, trans woman in a wheelchair for president and everybody will feel compelled to vote for that person. Society will have fully broken down in indentity groups.....and easy to control. Thats the end game.

[@generalconnard5271]

Dude, I have the name of the person behind the DEI initiative in gaming. It's on their official site and everything is there with all the motives behind this initiative. The name is Alaa Murabit, she works the Gates Foundation and is part of the United Nations. Make a little search, you will see.Her team with her trans consultant Christina Myers. A small hint: "To give an example, only 7% of women play shooter games globally. The explanation is quite simple: women - and particularly women of colour - are most frequently diminished and objectified in shooter games - if you can find them at all. In Mario Kart, a game developed exclusively by male game designers, the only female character, Princess Peach, is kidnapped about 13 times and always saved by Mario, a male character. The solution to this issue is based on inclusion. Take Lara Croft, one of the most famous gaming characters of all time. In 2013 she was transformed to become less sexualised and objectified than her previous depictions. This was done by integrating women developers into the game design strategy, in other words, by including women at the table where key decisions on the game were taken. The importance of inclusion in game design was also demonstrated by research which shows that when we have more diverse teams (in terms of race, sexual orientation, religion, age, gender, etc) of game designers, the games created are more inclusive. When we invite people to design their own games, their voices and visions are directly represented."

[@generalconnard5271]

Why my comment got deleted ? Am i censored by the government ?

[@generalconnard5271]

Just leaked the name of the person behind the DEI initiative in gaming industry and got censored ...

[@stevendeamon]

Nah bro, DEI and SBI are the best things that happened to gaming. Now its easier than ever to sort trash from diamonds.

[@Cloud92390]

I’m glad I finished that comment, damn, absolutely savage

[@kukuhimanputraraharja8084]

at the cost of many well made old game series being ruined and their studios+employees being wrecked upside down scattered to the winds.

[@GrainGrown]

*it's

[@dezmundtv962]

Except when DEI turns what would have been diamonds, into trash lol. we get a few good games per year, instead of dozens of them like we used to.

[@XplsiveBeanr117]

​@@dezmundtv962exactly

[@nebylicza]

DEI is when devs say that stereotypes are harmful and then make a black character whose only features are Jordans and a hip-hop soundtrack.

[@Ilovepoopin]

Lol. That's actually a hilariously accurate description of what they do. "Stereotypes are bad!" Same person: "Why don't you act like a ___?" (Insert whatever group you'd like; Italian, Black, Christian, NonBinary, Monotheistic,etc.)

[@therobustempyrean1436]

DEI: Makes a black character who constantly makes rap references, and references to "whiteness", or a female character whine about masculinity. Actual diversity: Sgt. Johnson, Joanna Dark, Augustus Cole, Lee Everett, Sheva Almonar, Carl Johnson, James Heller. Just reminded of that meme, and how many characters we had before all this current crap that EVERYONE loved, or liked purely for their character.

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

What did you expect from people following subversive politics to think like?

[@robertashford197]

​@@therobustempyrean1436 Lee Everett...damn the pain just hit me all over again...

[@whitelasagna6786]

Don't forget the dreads with the side shaved.

[@DirtRabbit]

“This is about being sick and tired of watching companies commoditize people’s identity’s and then go and use them as a shield for bad products” The most concise and well worded argument amidst all the noise. So well said.

[@alus992]

Companies using DEI is the most harmful thing that could have been done to all minorities, identities and beliefs of people. These companies make regular people turn the blind eye on problems of exclusion etc because people are just getting tired of being forced to experience half assed DEI actions that affect quality of these games. As a white person I always have been playing as other races because it was fun. Now when I see race X or Y I know it's there not to be fun but for being a lecture device with terrible writing around it just to fit to the current narrative - not to be fun and interesting

[@ZeroenHawk]

God damn I didn't know they really tried to make a female freeze the stupidity of this company im so happy they failed and I never heard anything good about this stupid game

[@LuisSierra42]

I fell the discussion has gotten pretty extreme on both sides so it's always good to stop and really put your thoughts in order.

[@seekittycat]

Everyone: "This game is boring and lazy." Some people: "I hate the main character she's awful." Company: "See? All the complaints are just from incels who hate women. We did an amazing job and everyone loves our game." How many times has this happened already.

[@jazzyjswift]

This modern pushback against DEI has been referred to as "Gamer Gate 2" and just like the original GamerGate was labeled by the media as the gaming community being "racist, misogynist, and bigoted" when the truth is it was about exposing the corruption and collusion of game journalists across the industry pushing a false narrative, so too is this modern gamer gate 2 not about being "racist, misogynistic, and bigoted" but instead about the as LD put it "being sick and tired of watching companies commoditize people’s identity’s and then go and use them as a shield for bad products" Once again, it comes down to the side doing the wrong things blaming their core market of being the same things as they always have in order to deflect from the actual issues. At a certain point, it starts to venture into an abusive tactic to manipulate others into not defending themselves from false accusations. These people are legitimately evil.

[@resident19guy]

Getting called a "Nazi" for thinking Concord looks "dumb" was my limit. Seriously, those people have worn that word down to a nub.

[@brucevandermescht6957]

They are the true Nazis my friend, trying to indoctrinate an entire generation of kids to their way of thinking.

[@angel_of_rust]

Republicans: "first time?"

[@joelbaker9366]

With the Republicans, they gave the neo-nazis a safe harbor back when that movement was new enough that it could have been snuffed out. It wasn't just the racists and bigot, but the worst that society has to offer. It was the Republicans that welcomed the KKK, practically with open arms. Their reputation as a whole is well deserved. Not to say there aren't bad apples on the Democrat side, but they tend to get pruned fairly regularly.

[@Myder_Dragon]

No one was getting called a nazi for hating Concord. It was a poorly made Overwatch clone in 2024, of course it was going to fail. People calling the game woke though made no sense. The word woke means "awareness of social inequalities". There was nothing in the game about that. People just say "woke" when they mean "thing I don't like"

[@angel_of_rust]

@@Myder_Dragon bro gtfo with your revisionist shit

[@nappy6806]

As a black guy we never asked for this, we just wanted authentic and original characters not half ass race swaps or or shoed in “killmonger hair cut character” to check of boxes and try to get brownie points. Plus it just makes people hate us even more and increase the racism towards us it does more damage then good

[@arostwocents]

This is the craziest thing, the activists anti white racism is making things worse for everyone 😢

[@AC-ut3nk]

It wasn't your fault to begin with, These greedy corporate just using people gender, race for profit.

[@DarkXessZ]

Same, what a lot of people want including me an Asian guy is to experience the world that artist's vision has created for us. I never ever thought the need any Asian representation in Dragon Age Game ever since Dragon Age Origin is created or any Western Games ever to feel represented. PS: You know the one thing me and my friends always laugh about in all Western Game entertainment as a joke? We Asians are always the first people who dies first then the black dudes. haha

[@alex434343]

@nappy6806 This. I'm hispanic and I never cared about race or gender in video games before this DEI era, if it was a good game I loved it. Now after years of this DEI pushing pissing me off I've started avoiding content that features certain ethnicities/genders prominently because I know 99% they will be ass. That sort of makes me functionally more racist, doesn't it? It's sad, I want to go back to the 90's where being "colorblind" was the gold standard and where the quality of your character was what you were supposed to be judged on. We're regressing and it's a real shame.

[@captainhydra4291]

Your damn right. I started hating poc more because of this. Leave my fking games alone

[@paulwade4058]

I saw a short of some girl playing space Marine 2. And she was like "is this what masculinity in games is like. We need more of it. It's fucking awesome". Says it all really.

[@cirescythe]

Indeed. By making EVERYTHING diverse, they made everything the same. Its like putting all spices in all dishes resulting in a samey, grey mush. REAL diversity would be to offer us vegan dishes as well as steak and burgers.

[@deathproof8732]

Her name is Bubbel

[@robertlawrence9000]

@@cirescythe That's a good way to describe it.

[@Master_Beef]

Saw that too, it’s funny my S.O. Fav game series is gears of war, she played through the first 3 with me and loves them. Then she tried the new ones and was like why did they make these so much worse lmfao

[@leandro6234]

No, it doesn't. What the fuck does that even mean? Lmaoooooooooooooo

[@elpolodiablo5486]

"Making a Game For Everyone is a Game For No-One" - Arrowhead Game Studios

[@moister3727]

Payne Brother!

[@cybernet343]

This is economy and marketing 101 in general. Literally among the most basic concepts when it comes to making and selling ANY product. It baffles me how companies with billions of dollars on their shoulders just willfully ignore it and effectively speedrun going broke.

[@lumbagoboi1649]

And then they randomly proceeded to nerf everything in their game into the dirt- quite literally making it for no one. So I'm not sure they even understand their own quote lol.

[@hotsandspicy]

@@lumbagoboi1649They heard the cummunity and even buffed all weapons now (compared to prior the nerfs)

[@lumbagoboi1649]

@@hotsandspicy yeah but they can't fix the fact that they lost almost all the good will people had for them and they wasted a month worth of time killing the game and it's popularity, when that time could've gone to good updates and gaining more players.

[@Kendoujo]

DEI has done so much damage to the very concept of "inclusion" that it’s hard to imagine how long it will take to repair the wreckage. Growing up, I played games that genuinely moved me, immersive and inspiring experiences that, if released today, would spark an immediate sense of suspicion, or worse, an urge to uninstall them as just more "woke" propaganda. Not because the games themselves have fundamentally changed, but because the cultural environment surrounding them has. When diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives become more than guiding principles-when they’re clumsily shoehorned, screamed from every conceivable platform, or reduced to tokenism-it poisons the well. It strips genuine representation of its impact, making it feel like a cheap veneer rather than a meaningful part of the story. True diversity should be as natural and invisible as air, a seamless aspect of the narrative rather than a forced, garish display of "progress." When executed subtly, without feeling the need to flaunt itself, it blends in as it should, enhancing the experience rather than detracting from it. There’s nothing wrong with inclusion when it is honest, when it serves the narrative without self-congratulation. But the current trend of injecting hollow social gestures into everything-from storytelling to gameplay-only cheapens the very thing it claims to uplift, rendering it a caricature rather than an enrichment. True inclusion doesn’t demand attention; it speaks for itself, naturally and unselfconsciously.

[@MomsRavioli]

So..... we should all support DEI? LFG

[@mattmartin6493]

I have always said this back in the 90s and 2000s nobody cared what race anyone was or if they were gay, but it wasnt preached and screached about constantly. Everybody was cool with everyone pretty much. I loved blade and jax was my favorite mortal kombat character i didnt care he was black or even think about it he was just a badass bodybuilder with metal arms that clapped peoples heads off.

[@chadachord1011]

Democrat politicians have been doing that with minorities for years but people still vote for them. Use minorities as shield while they constantly implement damaging policies to the communities. It’s sad. The more things change the more they stay the same.

[@timflemming4christ]

Bro is yapping about nothing

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

I already had become stubbron to touch most modern gaming due to since wii/360/ps3 era. Look at how much corporate slop, shady practices, design choices that make games a chore, and so on we got even before this crap came to light.

[@SimuLord]

The only "DEI Statement" anyone ever needed happened 60 years ago. "I have a dream that someday my grandchildren will be judged not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." It's not that hard.

[@GracefulMage3089]

Amazing quote and one more people need to live by today. Especially when these companies, consultants and journos are using exactly only the color of ones skin to rate and judge everyone. Disgusting behavior.

[@Norde_]

Fuck MLK he hated whites lmao

[@shazmodeus2795]

we were basically there 15 years ago, but that's not profitable for race grifters and politicians, so we got Obama and his racist rhetoric to bring us to today.

[@arkgaharandan5881]

too bad he did not actually believe this and that speech was written by stanley levinson. His family members and the king institute agree with wokeness and blm and dont believe in content of character only skin color.

[@kosmosXcannon]

​@@shazmodeus2795yeah people like to act as if this happened because of Trump. Obama, is typically committed from the conversation.

[@cdman90]

Im a 34 year old black man who has been gaming since i was 4. And i personally am tired of this stuff. Im sick of my likeness being used, mocked, then being told that it's for the sake of me feeling "included". As a gamer, I've always been included by nature and the camaraderie surrounding the hobby. And they feed us this cow manure and expect us to smile and beg for more.

[@beerosaurusrex]

Exactly, the only requirement to be 'included' in gaming was that you had to actually like games. That's it. There's no one putting up a barrier when you try to buy a console or game (other than financial), you just buy what you want and go play it. That alone shows the difference in motivation for these activist types, is how much is around the social/community aspect, or any aspect EXCEPT just playing the games.

[@KrauseParcival]

Preaching facts!

[@cirescythe]

Yea. They have no clue about actual social interactions. "Hey" "hey" "is that a warhammer 40k shirt?" "Yea!" = best friends for ever. Plus i dont want a game about my life. I want to do things and be things i am not.

[@robertlawrence9000]

But, but they are representing you!.... LOL. But in all seriousness I understand what you mean. Back in the day we didn't think about "diversity" because "diversity" is already all around us in so many forms of media. There are many characters of many genres of games from various backgrounds, color and ethnics that are great and memorable. I never thought about it ever being a problem until now when we see these companies making weird versions of characters, odd boring stories with pushes of weird ideology on us. Now I don't trust any game until I see more about it, know more about the companies making them and wait for TRUSTED reviews. I stopped preordering games. I've been burned too many times.

[@leandro6234]

"Camaraderie surrounding the hobby" lmao, the gaming community is full of racists that despise you, what are you talking about?

[@codyjacobs6899]

"DEI will happen naturally if artists can just be artists" is a great point. Artists don't want all of their characters to be barely distinguishable from each other and naturally will put tons of variation between them. I never even thought about "representation" when I was a kid playing games with a minority MC and a white supporting character with a hispanic love interest(I'm not naming anything specific, just making a point). It happens naturally just by artists wanting to build a group of characters

[@pyepye-io4vu]

No, it's not a great point. You guys need to stop making arguments that sounds like "there is actually a good version of DEI". There isn't. There never was. STOP. It's purely an anti-male first, anti-white second, hateful ideology that was invented by women in gender studies departments. Stop doing "ideological bargaining" with your enemy, they hate you.

[@CurtOntheRadio]

Except it hadn't. It didn't happen like you said.

[@Grassdia]

@@CurtOntheRadioand what are you gonna do about that? Make shit games with no heart and that just propagate hate and discrimination in a world too comfy to confront it properly?

[@codyjacobs6899]

@@CurtOntheRadio No, I think you're misreading me because I was parroting him, and maybe I wasn't specific enough so my bad if so. I mean that when we were kids we were more accepting of things being "different" because when a character was made "different" it was with a genuine desire to make an awesome character that stands out with their own unique properties. It wasn't a token black character with the half dreads and hip hop background in the samurai time period of Japan. It made sense when they themed a game around a character like that. Nobody questioned why your main pilot in Mass Effect was a guy in a wheel chair because he had a personality and had pushed himself hard to get there because he knew his disability was a set back, not "empowerment". Their inclusion was realistic and really well orchestrated. Not some slop to check off boxes. No one questioned why the original cast of Gears of war was a black guy, a hispanic guy, and 2 white dudes even though that is an unrealistic probability for half the squad to be minorities, but they were awesome and I have yet to meet a single person that disliked Dom or Cole Train because they were great characters. Not how nowadays 75% of the GoW squad is young women who aren't written well or given any reason to believe they make sense in the current time period/landscape of the game. I'm saying that diversity is natural because artists use it as a way to explore their artistic talents and show off how well they can design different characters, not because naturally people will gravitate towards making DEI box checks.

[@mateoreyes6921]

Gaming industry was more diverse when they weren't trying

[@MrTickleTrunk]

Most gamers and nerds have never cared what you are ONLY WHAT YOU BRING TO THE TEAM.

[@Azmo477]

After spending a couple thousand hours playing Counter Strike, I can assure you that this statement is not true lol

[@yarion4774]

Please let us not forget the inherent mysoginy that dominated most online games in the early 2010's. This does not just go for video games but women had to experience bad treatment simply for giving away they were a woman. It has gotten a lot better, but there is still room for improvement.

[@Azmo477]

@@Lionel-Goodfellow Low quality bait, try harder

[@Pufflord]

@@Azmo477 I can see where you'd make that mistake, but you're wrong. That isn't bait, that's someone who has an opinion and is absolutely fed up with the viciousness of racists... seemingly like yourself? Though I could be wrong. And they're just stating it as is, adding spice in the process. Read between the lines and you get their message. It's a space that no inside it ever had an issue with, we don't need soft women, men, blacks, whites, or anything else to come in here and ruin it. Those communities fostered some of the closests relationships you could ever see.

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

​@@Azmo477 You probably wouldn't last in a arena shooter deathmatch session lol.

[@EspyMelly]

As a gay man, DEI has given me nothing but grief. Not only has it worsened the quality of games, its toxic supporters have done real damage to social acceptance of people like myself. As far as I'm concerned it can't die fast enough.

[@stevenyee1055]

People's content of character matter more that having an ethnical or orientational background, and the fact we're even having a discussion about it shows us the real nature of their movement, full of hatred, desperate need of validation and deceit.

[@ibnu7942]

bro u gay

[@LB-yg2br]

For reals though, the damage these people are doing is beyond unacceptable. They are so eager to race/gender/queer wash that they don’t care about second order effects. They were so proud of themselves for making the little mermaid black that they didn’t bother to make sure the new little mermaid movie was good…so no we have a good little mermaid cartoon with a white Ariel and a bad little mermaid live action with a black Ariel…how awful to give a minority a bad role and then act like you did them a favor…now a whole generation will grow up with a mental subconscious link in their head that connects “black” and “bad”. Literally taking us backwards…regressing us as a culture

[@zac8670]

It's ironic that a lifetime of advocating for individual freedom is somehow deemed insufficient. I now have to support this wolf in sheeps clothing of an ideology or else I am a [insert slur]. I think those are misguided and naive people. Normal people see through it and are simply forced to experience the effects of these loud people. Happy to see it go.

[@Unethical.FandubsGames]

I'm a bi-dude, myself. Never been on board with this fuckery.

[@EastyyBlogspot]

There was a game called Aurion, done by african developers about african culture...it felt genuine they did not have white people in to knock down there was no race swaps it felt like a earnest attempt to bring their culture into games, and the biggest thing was....it is a good game

[@sarcasm-83]

Hmm sounds interesting, but I can't find anything about it. You sure you got the name right?

[@shawnpetersen1204]

It's called Aurion legacy of the Kori-Odan

[@sassyghost_8]

I just checked out the Steam page and it looks fun. Thanks for the recommendation!

[@SimuLord]

I've been saying for awhile now that modern media can take a big chunk out of the problem with a lack of originality by looking beyond the done-to-death stories and into other cultures. It's not about "representation", it's that African, Chinese, Southeast Asian, Native American, and every other culture's history and folklore would make awesome stories that people haven't heard a million times already. I want to hear those stories and see those movies and play those games. I hope the devs of Black Myth Wukong are able to lead the way, building on the success of their telling of a familiar Chinese story (Journey to the West) to tell a less familiar Chinese story in their next game.

[@LegitHarpyHunter]

​@@shawnpetersen1204thank you, I'll be looking it up after work 😁

[@drockopotamus1]

Working in games, this is very much the case. I've seen high-profile titles stripped away from studios because they venture away from what the publisher actually wants (which is to make money.) That's directly impacting the lives of people working on the project. All because they wanted to play with adding fat vampires to the game and re-shoot voice lines to be non-gendered, all of which COSTS extra money. I've sat in meetings where full grown adults are being taught how to be sensitive to race, which COSTS the company money. Anyone who pretends this doesn't directly impact the employees when a game fails on these merits is absolutely kidding themselves. For what it's worth, the industry is correcting itself. Diversity IS a good thing. But we're not getting that with any of the goofy shit they've been peddling the last few decades. We're getting it by making good games and convincing people from all walks of life to partake in making them WITH us.

[@1_underthesun]

The pendulum is swinging back in every industry. My company has had quarterly "sensitivity" training for the last 4 years, but the last 2 were cancelled, and the one that's supposed to be scheduled by now for Q4 has been "postponed indefinitely". Pretty sure my company has let that consulting firm they hired to handle these go, and are quietly phasing them out. Not only did these seminars cost money, but they actively made for an awkward work environment in an industry where many of us are customer facing and need to be upbeat and energetic to succeed. These seminars actively brought people down and made it impossible to have the fun needed to have us be the most successful when working with customers. As such, we've seen our stock dip to all time lows, high amounts of turnover, and knee jerk reactions to try and stem the flow of lost sales. Oddly enough, numbers have began to go up the last few quarters. Coincidence? Maybe, but for anyone who worked there would tell you unequivocally that these values were a constant drain in an industry where we couldn't afford to me mentally drained.

[@numberonedad]

it's capitalism davey

[@apophisstr6719]

Honestly, diversity as a term had already lost its noble aspects with these DEI people running at the top, it's all just a freak show of weird fetishes that they pushed into mainstream and force everyone to like them

[@drockopotamus1]

@@numberonedad I wouldn't blame capitalism, contrary to the belief of perpetually-online folks. The goofy incentives would happen under any economic system. If you build in the incentives, they'll be pushed. The incentives are the problem. Plus, there's no reality where the government is going to pay us to make videogames for a living lol. Communism isn't going to save the videogame industry.

[@thehatter9400]

I just worry how long until the pendulum swings to the other side, because i remember how "family values" was the cudgel used back then

[@aderan5011]

DEI has set back progressive thinking by at least 30 years. Before DEI people were generally ok with occasional DEI issues popping up in their games and entertainment. However, today DEI is constantly in your face non-stop everywhere you look, and it's causing people to be hyper focused on countering it. Bottom line, this stuff needs to gradually happen over time, not be forced down our throats.

[@RockinIan121]

I'd argue that it was set back about 60

[@GaioSamurai]

Back in the day, it was normalizing that the people exist. Zevran in DA:O was gay before gay marriage was a thing in the U.S. people still liked him more than Wynne. As time passed we saw the minority characters pop up and do cool things all over. Then it became a DEI mandate. Everything was abrupt and in your face. Pride Parades weren't about being gay and being accepted... it was about flaunting themselves in your face like a victory dance to mock you. It's abrasive. And because these people are still acting as though there aren't laws giving them equal status, they keep fighting beyond acceptance to ubiquitousness. The LGBT can't rationalize that they are 13% of the population, because 8% are gay, 5% are bi, and

[@RedBarDragon]

Im Czech and I remember when the CZECH developers of the Kingdom Come: Deliverance were attacked by gaming press for not including any people of colour. When they argued our country barely has any even now, the press argued back they need to PROVE that the country didnt have a racially diverse population back then... THIS is whats wrong with this kind of agenda. I do not condemn anyone for the colour of their skin or ethnic or religious background. That being said I am against bending history in any way in any form of media. Same goes for using token characters. For example I love What We do in the Shadows. out of 5 characters Laszlo is openly bisexual, Nadia enjoys multiple partners, Nandor is from muslim world and has hints of bisexuality, Guilermo is openly gay and I love the show. Because none of those chracters is written JUST to be that one thing. They are many more other things.

[@DelusionalDunmer]

What actual scumbags those people are. I'm 100% sure they didn't even and to this day don't know anything about Czech culture or the populace there and yet have the gall to act like they are so above you and can be so morally righteous is insulting to anyone with an IQ over 50.

[@Domura]

It's also like people complaining about lack of ethnic representation in Japanese made games, like bro Japan is one of the most ethnically homogenous countries in the whole world.

[@arcadenoah993]

I'm happy the devs pushed back - hope the new KC:D bê good too

[@FluffySylveonBoi]

Czech here too. It's so sad where thie world is going now.

[@RedBarDragon]

@@FluffySylveonBoi Yeah. I was never EVER against anyone based on the color of their skin, religion, who they love or sleep with. Pushing all that downt peoples throats for NO reason is wrong though. Just like having a "token gay" character in the past was.

[@TheForbidden_1ne]

It’s social engineering. They’re trying to guide a social revolution through hijacking art and entertainment. They’re trying to create an audience that doesn’t exist yet, but through relentless adherence to their messaging, they hope to eventually break through to young people (thus creating the new audience as they grow up)….. it’s wild to see this taking place in real time

[@qu1253]

The scary part is that it's working.

[@sirgoreth9176]

@@qu1253 ehhhhhhhhh not in this avenue, and not in the film industry that was undergoing the same changes before game production. Education is where more of the longstanding success of these movements has worked.

[@HANNIBAL30ro]

it wont happen, not in gaming anyway. i mean they can try but companies will go bankrupt in the process and the industry still wont be changed.

[@Cartel734]

That's the one major point I think this video kind of misses. It's not just about money, if it was, they would've stopped already. No instead they just keep pushing forward with their agenda regardless of the hundreds of millions of dollars they've lost on DEI.

[@jaxthedisintegrator8096]

​@@qu1253It's not working... What it's create is more extremists (left and right). You'll witnesse more hatred aimed at lgbt people from gamers and at the same time more forced inclusion from corporations. It blurs the line to the point that racists don't hesitate to call every non white in a game "Dei Hire" or else... Paranoia ...

[@ZEN_7RZ]

Diversity has always been in games, pop culture & media. A diversity of ideas, cultures, gender, ideologies, nationalities working on the games etc. There was artistic freedom too. But it started becoming corrosive the moment people pretended like none of this existed, therefore overcompensating using DEI. I have no issue with DEI as a concept. I have a serious issue with it in practice; being prioritized over quality, innovation and passion.

[@TheNightman.]

it started happening when activists and retards with chips on their shoulders entered the fray. the talentless freaks and hacks with pronouns in bios, raised and told they can have anything they want, brought up in bubble wrap and participation trophies being denied jobs because they have literally no capability. They look for any reason whatsoever. They force their way in and corrupt from the inside out.

[@simplysmiley4670]

DEI as an idea is fine but becomes a massive issue when it's only bothered with for financial benefits with half-assed work while being used to somewhat defend against criticism. Waving away players unhappy with a bland character as racism because the character so happens to be black for example.

[@arostwocents]

DEI as an idea isn't what it means in newspeak though. Words like diversity sound innocuous but they are actually racist, sexist and bigoted

[@rayman17420]

The corporate version of DEI is just a modern take on tokenism

[@robind8526]

I fully agree with what you have said.

[@Shine0222]

Funniest part of SBI is that their core mission is literally the same goal that the main bad of kingdom hearts xehanort has

[@TheDrune]

What is that

[@ihvojd]

So…Sweet Baby Inc are nobodies 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@silverhawkscape2677]

Comics people warned about this years ago when they were applying the concepts of DEI in comics. Now its has become full bloomed in gaming.

[@VV-ve4ie]

The problem with comic books is that we have ex cia agents writing them not DEI.

[@ConnerMacKenzie]

Remember snowflake and safe space? 😂

[@yufeng1707]

Diversity is selecting the right spices to make a cooking a dish stand out. DEI is putting in all the spices you can and then forgetting to cook it.

[@ProfessionalTrafficplayer]

@@VV-ve4ie You are the minority.

[@iownall2222]

Dei has been in comics since the beginning though. There have been multiple heroes of different race, gender, religion and more. The issue is the quality of writing has gone downhill massively to the point where the current writers don't process the ability to write good characters anymore and just rely on the token aspects of those characters making them far more 1 dimensional than ever before.

[@defoley5]

I remember a quote from Vince Flynn, “Without care and concern for quality and content, you will fail” so many things only care about checkboxes as opposed to making a good product for their customers

[@arostwocents]

These people hate gaming and gamers, they are purely racist activists

[@Carlin2810]

CSR is when they remove Aunt Jemima from the packaging to solve racsim but leave the high fructose corn syrup & hexamethaphosphate in the actual food.

[@israelquiles9127]

Stupid AF comment.

[@DxBlack]

Hexa isn't even unsafe unless you're knocking back 5 boxes of pancakes every day for an entire month...

[@HeroSword_P]

And take the Native American woman out from Land o Lakes.

[@Carlin2810]

@@DxBlack You could say that about practically anything even water but im not hyper focused on that paticular thing really im just throwing it out there as an example of something that shouldnt be in food.

[@corn_enthusiast]

I'm gonna be honest i think you're a little stupid

[@02yricky]

Great video highlighting these issues!

[@Sean12248]

I hope Sweet Baby Inc goes out of business.

[@illuminate427]

Just give them a little more time, it's coming.

[@XDarkSlayerX]

Doesn't matter. There's like 20 other companies

[@King0nyx]

If you think SBI is the one and only "company" behind all of this, then you are VERY sorely mistaken.

[@blazingmonolith4323]

Even if they do go out of business, other businesses that have the same interests in mind will just keep hiring these morons because of their credentials.

[@Updup]

@@King0nyx Figure out who the people are, track what companies they go to or start, follow groups like SBI Detected on Steam, and do your own research before buying a game. The good news is the signs are pretty obvious so it is easy for a mindful consumer to detect and avoid.

[@TheAutistWhisperer]

They never cared about art, only control.

[@turgonnaish]

we were called racist when we called this shit out 10 years ago.

[@noiminoimi1179]

10 years ago? It still happens now only now they slander dox and tell you to kys. Lady's and gentlemen the tolerant left.

[@brandon-qc1ul]

When people don't buy and play their DEI games they still resorted to name calling and blaming the so called in their words toxic fan base like they always do. Rather than see how other games that refuse to follow the DEI checklist are making money like Black myth Wukong, Stellar Blade, Warhammer 40k Space Marine 2 Etc. Look at how Dustborn and other DEI games turned out in the end like that one studio that made Concord that got shut down since no one is playing their game.

[@zaruuchshekel5806]

Who cares im racist and proud

[@Swagjagson]

its all part of the lefts radical agenda.

[@jeffpesos420]

​@zaruuchshekel5806 go get some pus bro JC

[@poshima]

I remember when Michael Jordan got a lot of shit back in the day but he was right when he said, “Republicans buy sneakers too”

[@writhes7170]

At <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="190">3:10</a> you say something to the effect of many fearing Dragon Age Veilguard could be the next casualty of heavy handed DEI influence. I just have to say that I personally am willing to turn on every franchise I grew up loving if that's what it takes for companies to learn and I think many feel the same way. There is no fear of another franchise fading to dust. A future without old franchises without DEI is going to be so much better than a future that panders for the sake of preserving old franchises. If every single thing needs to burn before DEI perishes then that's just how it has to be.

[@VinceP1974]

100% Dragon Age is dead to me now, as are: Halo Assassin's Creed Mass Effect Rock steady GTA Saints Row

[@TheDarkwill777]

This feels like some sort of evil necromancy reviving the tortured warped corpses of our favorite franchises and using it against us. We see the characters and games we once loved... but they aren't as we remember. Bastardized versions of what once was. We know what needs to be done, but could you be blamed for not wanting to do it? As these shells that are no longer the things we once loved, but empty soulless husks reach to us, grabbing at us (and our wallets), there is only one final thing left to be done. "I'm sorry this happened to you. I hope you're in a better place now." And pull the trigger, ending their pain for once and for all. We may lose most of our old friends, but they would have told us to do the same. And to make new friends and stories, and have new adventures. One feature I personally miss, was the game end screen. Perhaps its finally time to turn off the game, and unplug the cartridge. And maybe even insert a new one...

[@casters5514]

Amen! I would rather characters I’ve loved in the past be remembered fondly then to be hated because of some stupid dei change. I’d rather let them die in peace then to turn into a mascot for dei.

[@RealKeetz]

Sruthán an domhain!

[@pilotmanpaul]

Just saying. Representation and Inclusion DOES NOT MATTER. *WRITING SKILL DOES.* My entire life, I've watched Japanese anime. Not once was the protagonist a small brown Filipino man like me, same to South Americans. Yet, we soak it up and eat it like there's no tomorrow. We relate, and understand it as if we ourselves are Japanese. Why? Because Inclusion and Diversity happens naturally. If you write good, Black, White, Yellow, Orange or Albino or whatever will relate to it even if the cast are a bunch of Japanese High School kids in a Comedy Romance Story. At the end of the day, if you can write and direct, even if its just a bunch of aliens from Mars with no Humans in it, or a drama about two moldy breads having an existential crisis as they near there expiration date. If you know what your doing, its Gold. We're gonna love it, you don't need to insert a Filipino o Brazilian there.

[@tomclark1213]

Wrong. Representation and inclusion does matter. Writing and programming skills also matter. There is nothing wrong with a woman wanting to play a female character or a dude wanting to play a James Bond character. You might not care, but lots of people do care. So it does matter. The problem is that there are no longer portrayals of dangerous, serious, masculine males being put out. So, while the soy infested get included, the traditional male is always (nowdays) excluded and it is a major problem.

[@smokedcheese2942]

@@tomclark1213 f r a g i l e

[@mohamadmottaghi4519]

i related to Wall-E and i am not even a robot (i swear)

[@G.D.G.]

​@@tomclark1213 Im a white women. My favorite franchise is Doom. I would fight anyone that would try chaging the doom guy into a women. It would be the most disrespecful and disguting thing I could imagine as a huge fan for over 2 decades. My second franchise is subnautica. The first game main protagonist is a black male. I DONT GIVE AN EFFING SHIT THAT HES A GUY OR THAT HES BLACK. DO YOU KNOW WHY? No actual gamer gives a shit, but we DO CARE if its shitty plot, shitty characters, shitty gameplay. Make the whole game into monsters. We wont give a shit. Just MAKE. IT. GOOD. DEI has literally RUINED MULTIPLE games. Not one is successful. All of them is shit.

[@Skelethin]

Representation and inclusion always matters. The thing is, as everything going on recently highlights, most people *don't notice* diversity and inclusion in well done material *unless* that diversity or inclusion includes *them*. On the flip side, **everyone** can, and will, easily notice diversity and inclusion done *badly*. And so it easily falls to the bias of the obvious symptom being blamed, rather than the cause. Soulless executives and their slavish attention on focus groups to just make the most liked, and "least offensive", product they can that can then be infinitely reproduced for infinite money. Except they try to do it with art, the one thing that requires a soul and the potential to intentionally offend someone(most often those in the higher reaches of power) in order to *actually be art* in the first place.

[@karlfaxby7076]

I almost never comment but me and a friend had this discussion yesterday as we felt squashed in between parties in the constant culture war. Really thankful someone else is bringing this up and drawing attention to this, keep up the awesome job!

[@Emma-js3sp]

“This is about being sick and tired of watching companies commoditize people’s identity’s and then go and use them as a shield for bad products” This sentiment right here being so well thought out and articulated is why I listen to you. Its also why I truly believe you are carrying Totalbiscuits legacy and doing him proud.

[@RedDragon-yp3tg]

I hate to break it to you, but journalists didn't need those idiots calling that Zau game spear chuckers to call gamers racist. They started calling us that, from straight out of the blue when those dozens of articles all dropped on the same day in 2014, about how gamers are over. It was organized and planned. They are all racists, sexist, homophobes etc. They've been doing this for a decade now...unprovoked. So yeah it sucks, but after getting lambasted for a decade by the media on some made up problem, there is going to be a section of the gaming community that has just had enough and their mentality is "If I'm going to be called a racist no matter what I do, what does it matter then?"

[@fullstackweebdev]

Does anyone even care when the cult calls them racist, sexist etc anymore? Those words are like saying “hello” with them, they’re utterly meaningless these days

[@LimC.A]

Yeh kinda strange when we say racist shit and they say sexist,homophobes and other words we suddenly get called out...lol what hypocrites. They do this to everyone and probably anyone they disagree with...and thats the joke, accuse someone of what you did.I dont even know what "spearchucker" even means???? genuinely? is it racist?

[@LimC.A]

The ppl saying these "buzzwords" also create more "space spaces" for themselves so we have to self-censor ourselves cuz the "fee fees" are hurt. What a joke, call us snowflakes when they themselves are one. Dunno why the conservatives are now "weighing" in now that someone in our community has said "spearchucker" bruh they need some skin cuz they are so thin skinned. Dont throw shit on the otherside of the wall when u dont want it thrown back...how hard is it to understand?

[@Soupy_bass]

@@LimC.A its a racist term for black ppl

[@AsheramK]

It wasn't unprovoked. Gamers questioned the integrity of Journalists, so journalists destroyed the credibility of gamers.

[@Saimiri1334]

You speak from my heart. It's so disturbing to watch companies bastardize peoples identities for marketing, then use it as excuse that everyone is just racist. And some gamers are so naiv, they defend these companies not realizing they fell right into the companies trap

[@Cloud92390]

They do not care it’s what they think people want to get more profit

[@CurtOntheRadio]

Or maybe everyone is prejudiced? They are. That's how the mind/brain works. You'd rather hold on to your prejudices? Sure, no-one stopping you.

[@neppity5887]

@@CurtOntheRadioJust because you're prejudice doesn't mean everyone else is. Majority of people don't care about the race/gender/sexuality of fictional characters. It's the DEI firms that are trying to make people care about it, because that's how they make money. It's really that simple, I'm sure you can see the conflict of interest if you step back for a minute.

[@CurtOntheRadio]

@@neppity5887 How do you know what the majority of people care about? Really, everyone is prejudiced, preferring 'us' over 'them'. But one is also rational and can adjust instinctive responses. But that's a choice. I can see a financial interest but it's not a central one.

[@neppity5887]

@@CurtOntheRadio It's a logical conclusion made through the fact that games with diversity have been selling incredibly well over the last two decades. Can you give countering evidence that a majority of gamers will actively refuse to buy a game with a diverse cast of characters? I believe you are conflating prejudice with preference when it comes to games, as prejudice implies holding a strong view you believe that all people of a certain group fall into. Are there actively prejudice people? Absolutely. But to say everyone holds negative stigma against every other race is an extreme take that needs substance behind it. If diversity in games wasn't an issue (it wasn't) these consulting firms would be out of a job. They have an active incentive to create a means to justify their existence, which is unfortunately why they are openly racist/sexist on social media while labeling anyone who calls them out as the problem. It's pretty similar to developers creating trash mechanics to sell players microtransactions that fix the problems they intentionally made. People blindly fall for that as well lol.

[@fallingcurse9208]

At least one moderate content creator is talking about this. Most like skill up, Act man and other just dodge the question or dismiss it completly, making fun of easy boogeyman like Andypants instead of talking about the real problems...

[@FLCLingg]

I've given up on Skill Up ever having a genuine take on how DEI can be harmful to the enjoyment of games. He seems terrified of being labed as a 'wrongthinker'.

[@albeon81]

Exactly. This topic is either ignored or used as a grift by content creators. Some people I used to like to watch only talk about this stuff now and it’s just so tiring. Then the content creators who defend this stuff use the morons as an example of why we need more of it. It’s a vicious cycle.

[@spellandshield]

@@albeon81 Which ones did you used to watch?

[@fabiankrokaa1114]

Andypants could of done good if he didn't shit the bed with fake and gay name calling and unsubstantiated claims. Not to mention copyright striking Act Man and disabling comments. Andypants barks loud but he's a bitch.

[@albeon81]

@@spellandshieldgeeks and gamers, well really just Jeremy and Ryan . They are only about politics and looking for DEI now. Don’t get me wrong, I hate this stuff but some have just gotten to the point that it reminds me of the satanic panic of the late 80’s and early 90’s.

[@Stevo.100]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="617">10:17</a> this applies to everything. You don't need DEI in workplaces, DEI in workplaces is someone coming in and saying "you have 20 employees, 15 of those are white, you must not hire any more white people and only hire non-white people", you don't need that, if you hire the best person for the job DEI will happen naturally, there will naturally be non-white people getting those jobs because, unlike what these pro-DEI people think, non white people are just as intelligent and good for the job as white people, who would have thought?! You don't need to force them into the jobs, they can do it on their own!

[@mattmartin6493]

This 1000 percent. I've seen diversity hires many times as a blue collar employee and the guys never pan out or barely get by, but the diverse guys hired because of their actual skills do great.

[@DylanPorto45]

as a plumber of 5 years (im 23), now that plumbing and hvac are supposedly the next millionaire class, i cannot wait to open a plumbing shop with an ESG of 0. i refuse to bend to private equity.

[@Daniel_D-bo]

I will be your 1st customer and spend $

[@Rakschas666]

Until everyone of your competitors takes that DEI money to price you out of the market. These people provide shit service and shit products, but it is a big mistake to forget that these people are gods at networking and building alliances. Once thats achieved, meaning you are out, either prices rise again or quality of products and service is lowered. Likely both. Jokes aside, your industry is relatively safe because it is rather hands on and based on local demand. At least I hope so.

[@bitpine]

It's not supposed, I live in New England and have met multiple trades men that have built multi million dollar companies from nothing. It's here and you're ahead of the curve

[@captainhydra4291]

Maybe in 50+ years. No hvac employee is gonna be a millionaire. Not when they can hire a forign jeet to do it half the cost

[@bitpine]

@@captainhydra4291 I never said employee, he intends on owning his own business, use context please.

[@jbdxiii]

Professor Carlo Cipolla defined a stupid person as one who causes harm to another person or group without at the same time obtaining a benefit for himself or even damaging himself. I ask you, just what are these activists and "consultants" accomplishing? Well, they charge millions of dollars as a consulting fee, but are they making media more "inclusive", or are they making people hate them and what they represent? What is David Gaider accomplishing by insulting gamers and calling them "incels"?

[@arostwocents]

Incels is just the latest brainless insult. Anyone who uses it immediately marks themselves out as a useful idiot for the establishment

[@pyepye-io4vu]

This is more generally a female instinct. Males like Gaider might exhibit the same behavior too, due to feminization of environment, but it's still a female instinct. Don't get stuck on specifics. Notice how this "takeover" of gaming, movies etc. has been completely one-sided, gender wise. Anti-male. "incel", etc. There is no similar attack on female things women enjoy in general (day-time TV shows, Oprah, Dr. Phil, soap operas, romance novels etc.) Notice how it's not specific / limited to gaming. It's society-wide in pretty much everything. Law, business, education, college, jobs, music, everything. If it's a male thing it gets attacked and destroyed. If it's a female thing, not. "What are they accomplishing?" You have to understand that instincts often don't make rational sense. Some of them are outright maladaptive / dysgenic. You have to understand female intrasexual competition and female dominance hierarchies. You also have to understand how animals (including humans) function based on signaling mechanisms. Then you have to understand the "costly signaling theory". Look it up. Geoffrey Miller has a book called "virtue signaling". Basically, the more openly hateful and destructive she is, the "higher" she is in the eyes of other women. Women never evolved past the cavewoman level. Hope it helps.

[@voidplayy]

in old days new gold mine was a new town and a lot of handwork jobs. now is all automated and ppl tray to find new jobs like consultants, managers, HR, and more.... and this jobs are all jobs that human can live without but is here to stay and even more useless jobs will be in future. the moral of the story is we have a lot of useless jobs and all human needs is water and food

[@disalazarg]

Moving the Overton Window farther to the left, which is the whole objective of the people funding those paying him. Look up interviews with Larry Fink and his likes, they literally admit their objective is to drown the masses in their message for long enough that children grow up knowing nothing else.

[@Gorpmeat]

@@voidplayy Man does not live by bread alone, but by every word from the mouth of God. Food and water are not enough to fulfil us.

[@Ryan91487]

Read the article: "What Shall We Ask of Writers" written in 1946 that talks of this issue. Specifically the very last few sentences about what "Art As A Weapon" results in.

[@matthewtorley6508]

Orwell's discourse on Newspeak (I think it was an appendix to 1984) is illustrative. Especially since it seems some people seem to have taken it to be a playbook instead of a warning.

[@Ryan91487]

@@matthewtorley6508 Because they see those methods as a tool of power over others, believing that to them, as long as their causes are met, it matters little who suffers, even if it was one they walked apongside in the past, they will be placed on the chopping block if they don't toe the line.. Loyalty only goes so far until the siren song of Power or Renoun is heard, then such loyalties only become words.

[@arkgaharandan5881]

"out of all the arts the cinema is the most important to us" -Vladimir Lenin

[@thisisfyne]

"Rules are there to establish an average behavior. In art, if you want to create something special, often it comes from breaking rules, going beyond the accepted rules of how it's done." - Rick Ruben, on the creative process. That quote resonated with me today as I was watching the documentary about Reboot, the hit animated series from the 90s. That creative project came to be because a small group of nerdy white guys came together with a dream to do something that had never been done before, and they had the fiery passion to make it happen. The money wasn't there, nor the technology. They had little experience with screenwriting and directing. But they did it, against all odds. Same scenario at Pixar. And that story isn't uncommon in the gaming world either. With those two things in mind, it's not surprizing that DEI is a cancer to gaming studios, or all creative studios for that matter. Those people are there to ADD rules, to put people in line, and to ensure a consistent messaging that won't pose any risk of offending anyone. They are not creatives. Their focus is on real-world issues often completely irrelevant from the project at hand. It's a corporate strategy that puts money and safety first, which in turn waters down actual sparks of creativity, nothing more. If we want fresh gaming experiences with new compelling stories and characters, we need LESS guidelines and MORE people thinking outside the box. And of course, everyone is welcome to that process, as long as they are there to bring passion and creativity into the thing their team is working hard to put into the world. The social barriers of what's acceptable or risky or offensive or whatever that DEI brings have NOTHING to do with a genuine creative process. I say, get it out!

[@michaelamaynard]

It's way way bigger than gaming. It's in gaming, education, banking, media, law everything.

[@rushpatriot2866]

That's how spiritual warfare works

[@stormstrider]

'Division is lucrative' that's no joke, and not just in entertainment, but I should avoid branching into other topics in a gaming channel. I love your work, man.

[@davidmichael9275]

Amazing how DEI is a must in the games industry, but we hear NOTHING about it in say, plumbing or firefighting. Ferguson Enterprises is a publicly traded plumbing supply company. How come lesbians aren't demanding representation in the sewage industry? Oooooh. I see. It's only important to be represented in the fun, lucrative, popular industries.

[@IFRYRCE]

Finally someone else that is mentioning this. This is my biggest problem with it. If you do see anyone demanding representation in those industries, it's ALWAYS in management or the executive board. Never in the trenches, which are overwhelmingly male for any job requiring physical labor.

[@jacobk6371]

I’m a gamer and I am gay. My favorite characters that have stuck with me are Bill from L4D, Master Chief, and Ghost from MW2. they’re not gay….they’re good characters and that’s what people want to see.

[@j-thugger5057]

Sing it brother 👍

[@LesPaul2006]

The problem is not diversity and inclusion. The problem is THEIR version of it.

[@FeliPeltier]

"Without identity, their life has no meaning." This is SOOOOO true.

[@Geometric3163]

Gay characters in the 90s were chastised for being tokenised, but we're straight up back where we were. Nowadays you just know the masc woman's sexuality from the get, and I know that you just reading this pictured exactly the type. That isn't representation, it's exploitation.

[@ChipperMcManus]

i have always thought it is even more sinister than underrepresentation

[@vaan_]

A generation raised on tumblr and its consequences. All they care about is fitting people into labels, the content of character no longer matters.

[@_Just_John]

Incredibly well composed video. I also appreciate the minimal editing and no jump-cuts.

[@stischer47]

The problem is that the "E" in DEI, started out as "Equality". That is, the equality of opportunity. It then turned into "Equity" meaning that equal number of _______ (fill in the blank for checklist) must be included in ALL entertainment, regardless of story.

[@CBEnoddyy]

Equity is a fantasy, we are not all equal. Everyone is different, physically and mentally and some people are better than other at different things. That's how we got where we are by putting the best people in the best position, to further humanity and progress. Not take steps backwards and seed division.

[@noecontreras7068]

💯​@@CBEnoddyy

[@CurtOntheRadio]

Good story, bro

[@SuperGreenqueen]

@@CBEnoddyy This exactly the reason why some people are discriminated and not accepted in certain positions, BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT. Different from the norm -> White, christian, male, straight.

[@sebastiansirvas1530]

​@@SuperGreenqueenHe clearly meant different in a general sense, probably around skills, values and vision. You are just pushing for racial obsession, the same one present in marxoid Critical Theories such as Critical Race Theory or Queer Theory.

[@jeremyrivera660]

This is possibly the single best video on the topic. Not picking a side and pointing fingers. Just straight to the point conversation and calling out the corporate greed that’s killing artistic expression on video games. And I’m here for it.

[@eliaspanayi3465]

The idea that diversity is important at all is the issue. Nobody has to see someone that looks exactly like them to relate to the character.

[@codymartin4405]

GREAT video, brother. KEEP IT UP! Thank you for all your hard work and honesty.

[@WDWelly]

I feel so bad for the kids and anyone else that didn't get to experience gaming and entertainment before 2016-2020. Everyone was trying to innovate, make great games with great content instead of satisfying shareholders. Remember, a lot of the time the devs just want to make a great game and are forced into decisions by their shareholders.

[@CurtOntheRadio]

And costs escalated massively. Making the entire sector much more risky - one failure and the entire company is at risk. The problem is a financial one, where the costs/benefit calculus has made it imperative to have a hit, which reduces risk taking, lowers quality, reduces content, etc and which drives studios to diversify income through lootboxes, DLC, in game purchase etc. Fortnite is free yet makes $billions. How to compete for screentime and $$ against that? Spend $200m on the off-chance of a hit? Why risk it? At the end of the day the capital is invested for a return - games are only made to make money, ultimately. And most players are locked into a very few titles which are successful, the vast majority of titles are left competing for the remaining crumbs. This is why it's an issue with AAA max budget games, not indy.

[@joeyginise6051]

Not anymore. not since the woke infected the HR departments and started hiring their fellow activists.

[@tamim3319]

Thats weird to say the highest rated games of all time Totk, bg3 and Elden Ring came after 2020. Gaming is better than ever unless you only play triple a western games.

[@WDWelly]

@@tamim3319 those are great games, but elden ring was released 2 years ago and that’s just three great games. It used be 10+ great games every single year

[@CurtOntheRadio]

@@tamim3319 Fair point.

[@CataclysmDM]

I've witnessed the games industry implement these DEI practices, and I've watched as beloved studios collapse. It's real, and it's been awful for many franchises I used to adore.

[@ProfessionalTrafficplayer]

DEI = DOA Wallets closed.

[@Jeffdaam]

Games were always Diverse, it just happened naturally but the difference nowadays it that Diversity now the requirement and no longer a natural process

[@TheNightman.]

No they weren't, not all of them. They had diversity when it mattered, or didn't where it made no sense

[@Chilltown4eva]

​@@TheNightman.I think you misinterpreted the comment a bit. Not every game had it, but it was always around prior to it being pushed. I believe that was his point.

[@cirescythe]

Indeed. It was "does the game or story actually benefit from this or that character? Does the design fit the setting? Can i weave a meaningful story around that characters identity? " Now its "i want to buy that armor, mister shopkeeper" "oh my HUSBAND!! Likes armors as well! I am a man! And.....have...A HUSBAND!..Man on man!! Two guys!!" "Ooookay then. I will see myself out"

[@arkgaharandan5881]

hollywood now requires you to have diversity checkboxes to get an award, this is how games are made nowdays as well, so what gets funded depends on fulfilling those checkboxes.

[@The_world_is_not_worthy_of_Him]

@@TheNightman. that's cute. You think diversity means skin color 🤡

[@METAL-ADDICT]

Love your channel. Awesome T-shirt! 🤘🏾

[@XDarkSlayerX]

Now the gaming journalist are going to come after him

[@HomersIlliad]

That's like China putting a travel ban on you. He might as well treat it like a badge of honor.

[@kukuruyo5994]

I think one of the main issues is that from the very beginning of this DEi process, every single argument we do, no matter how well expressed and thought out, gets simply dismissed with some thought terminating cliche. Gamers get tired of their worries never getting adressed and getting insulted for it so they end up going overboard too just this week i wrote a long text on facebook much on the line of this video, in which i tried to explain why Gamers viewed ugly female characters in games as an indicator of bad quality. I didn't one in the text mentioned anything about wanting sexualized big booby bimbos in games, and simply explained this DEI topic and how nowadays when we see a game double down hard on doing ugly designs it usually means the game is gonna have many of the issues you mention on the video, or problems with Toxic positivity like it happened in Concord, so actually the gameplay, story, characters, etc is affected by that design philosophy I instantly got a wave of hate in which no one even tried to counter argue anything i said and they simply called me an Incel and strawmaned my text as if was saying that all games need to have big tiddy anime girls so we can masturbate It's impossible that we can ever even begin to solve this issue when there's no way to even begin to have a discussion about it. Too many people just see an opportunity to use you to virtue signal how morally superior they are to "the gamerz"

[@qu1253]

Social media is the worst thing to happen to the human race in the last 50 years.

[@MikePainstill]

They are “promoting” discussion, this discussion is just not about what we care.

[@racingraptor4758]

Facebook is 97-98% of b0ts made by Korpos or just trolls. You won't make conversation here. Although real people (essay do spot) are with us

[@Fleshlight_Reviewer]

Sounds like that time I made a post on Reddit 😂

[@CKProductions-07]

@@Fleshlight_Reviewer Same here. I had to delete my Reddit account and start a new one because of this issue. People don't like to be shown the truth and take offense that they have been taught wrong this whole time. Instead, they deflect/project and make you the problem rather than admit the core issue and keep living in that drainage reality. The cycle of hate and racism from both sides will keep on circulating. I don't know if we will ever unite, as the damage done is just too great.

[@WDWelly]

It's very clear to me that Independent games, films, shows, etc are going to be where the real quality is from now on. These consultancy agencies are a cancer on everything they touch.

[@qu1253]

You act as though independent creators don't also get in bed with these consulting agencies. Even if they don't, they use their influence to destroy independent creators. Look what's happening to Eric Barone after he refused to add pronoun selection to Stardew Valley.

[@I_am_ENSanity]

Never pre-order, never buy day 1, never purchase microtransactions, and never give money to companies that hate you.

[@Mr.starvy]

Let’s make a game dedicated to the the smallest percentage of players Good move

[@alexfrost2799]

Yeah, that's one of things I don't get about when they shame white people, especially straight men. The U.S. alone is 59.3% white. Saying 'it's not for you' is automatically cutting out over half of the potential consumer base. I thought they were trying to make _more_ money, not less. And it absolutely doesn't help when even the demographic they're trying to appeal to (minorities and different identities) aren't biting either.

[@unscblackbeltgi5893]

I feel like alongside what's discussed in this video it's also worth discussing how the people who exercise good-faith criticism of DEI and its influence are treated by its supporters. Yelled at, called all sorts of horrible names, told we're toxic and evil and any other buzzword they can throw at us, as well as my personal favorite, that we're a small minority who can be safely ignored (yes they're fine with discriminating against a minority when it serves them). Yet, when people with a genuine interest in videogames speak up and say "hey this doesn't pass the smell test" those games do actually tend to fail. This creates an interesting disconnect, not only between gaming publishers/developers and the paying public, but between games journalists (and I use that term extremely loosely) and those publishers/developers. We're at the point where the best possible thing to do is to ask any mainstream gaming journalist what to do with your game, then do literally the exact opposite. These people aren't interested in the success of games as a medium, they're only interested in the success of games as propaganda, so that they can remain in a state of ideological authority over the "toxic chud gamers." This isn't a phenomenon unique to games; look at the so-called journalism associated with any entertainment medium and you'll likely find examples of this - the "you're a bad person of you don't like this" argument. If you know that DEI and its underlying ideology are the only reason you have a job, well then, you have a vested interest in ensuring that ideology stays prominent, don't you? Remember: Propaganda often isn't intended to convince the dissenter; it's to make the dissenter believe they are alone in their dissent. "Nobody cares" (appeal to triviality) is their absolute favorite argument. It isn't a problem, why are you saying it's a problem, you don't want to be a Bigot(tm) do you? Just shut up and ignore the ideological slop that's being injected full-force into every product you consume. This is why the "Just consume product, then get excited for next product" became such an iconic line. It's legitimately how they want us to think. You are the consumer. You decide what you spend your money on. Just like I'm tired of companies treating people and identities as commodities to be sold, I'm also sick and tired of companies and journalists acting as though they already own the contents of my wallet, and it's a moral failing of mine for not just giving them what's already theirs. It is never a moral failing to not spend money on something you don't like or don't agree with, and it is also not a moral failing to spend money on something you like and/or want to support; this applies to all sides of the debate.

[@dlc_2678]

Well said...The free market is what determines whether a product is successful or not regardless of how badly they want our money, and making trash products that won't sell isn't a good business model, and therefore should NOT be rewarded OR continue to allow them to still be in business at all if they keep failing to deliver what customers want. What is interesting to note here, is for all the screaming, whining, and crying about how gamers aren't buying/playing their games and blame US as the reason why it flops, why would they do that if we in fact were the actual vocal minority that they claim??? Where are the people these games were made for?? Why aren't THEY buying the games?? Why aren't they directing their anger and frustration at THEM for not supporting them?

[@arkgaharandan5881]

@@dlc_2678 this is why those esg funds were created, to make it so you dont need the free market, its funded by the top.

[@FoxyCAMTV]

Perfectly put.

[@GeometryEX-hp9zs]

I recently finished Marvel Spider-Man, Spider-Man Miles, and Cyberpunk 2077. I'm playing Tales of Arise. I almost ignore all new games because I've been playing games for many years. I only look for the games I like the most. When I finish all the games with storylines (I usually only go through the main storyline and don't drag the process for a long time), I will eventually return to driving simulation games. I have high requirements for the story of game products. For me, role-playing games are just one of the options. I'm still considering whether to buy Star Blade (this game is essentially a soft porn game). I will definitely buy Death Stranding 2. I have to say that I won't give good reviews to most games. I need the characters to be very three-dimensional and deep, and the storyline to be complete. The world background of the game needs to be very complete, and there must be enough conflicts. I think I will finish the Final Fantasy series. Other games are another matter. Game quality has always been a concern for players. As for the scam, these large game companies have actually been doing it for a long time. It has become very bad since about 2018. The 3A games that really reach quality are rare, and almost all of them are half-finished and unfinished works. This leads to me not deciding to buy the genuine version. Pirated versions are still the best option. The genuine version should be purchased only after all aspects of quality are met. I still recommend PC players to play pirated games to test the quality of the game before deciding whether to buy it. For games like Concord, it is best to wait for a period of public testing. The core of online games is the gameplay. The core of story-driven games is the story. This is a completely different focus. If the game is not fun, I would advise anyone to give up on it. At the same time, in fact, many people will never become players in their lives. Those who will become players can only be driven by the most primitive desire for exploration to do this.

[@hahahafunniness]

​@@dlc_2678lmao pirating the games cause they can't afford anything.

[@kenenix3680]

It's sad that HUGE gaming youtubers (1m+ subs and up) don't wanna talk about wokeness and DEI in videogames because they're afraid of backlash or something. You earned my subscription, sir.

[@PeerwasNOPE]

Just make sure to avoid andypants gaming and youtubers he mentioned for people to watch. If you wanna know why, check a video about him by thegamertronshow and that interview with act man.

[@-Blue-_]

@@PeerwasNOPE also avoid Actman also

[@PeerwasNOPE]

@@-Blue-_ why? what’s up with him?

[@Nazgul1393]

As long as cancel culture is a thing, people will not talk freely. Sometimes it shines through and some are honest, and some would rather shut up and not risk their livelyhood. While it's easy to critisise them, would you risk such a high paying job this way? And yes some don't care or are for this ...

[@ninochaosdrache3189]

​@@Nazgul1393 Yes. Because you would have much support and because the DEI people are in the minority, so the dangers of long term consequences are small, especially given that there already are large KZbinrs like Arch, who called this stuff out day one.

[@michaelbrooks9474]

Really been enjoying your content and your take on the industry, you are very well spoken. Keep up the great work man.

[@PermanentlyTemporary]

"It seems division is a very lucrative industry." Well, that's because it is. Arms manufacturing is built on division that has devolved into violence. While less severe (as no one should lose their life over video games) consulting companies, like those described, are trying to be the "Arms Manufacturers" of a culture war that wasn't as prevalent before 2008.

[@linopontes]

The games industry could disappear tomorrow and I wouldn't care... just play old games, and end the garbage that 95% of companies are putting out these days.

[@arkgaharandan5881]

i am not interest in any new AAA games.

[@DarkMan307]

@@arkgaharandan5881 monster hunter wilds is the only thing im remotely interested in, besides that il play old games for the next decade until kenshi 2 or the league of legends mmo comes out

[@bakonax7080]

I would say the same, if it weren't for Indie games, that's where the real gold is

[@D3adCl0wn]

You don't even need to pivot to old games. Despite all this DEI push in modern gaming, I still have a backlog of games in Steam that I have yet to play since 2020. AAA gaming being woke is a nothing burger to me, I am not forced to play those and neither are those the only games in the market. This doom and gloom is laughable to me.

[@DarkMan307]

@@D3adCl0wn as someone pointed out it does become a bit more of an issue with shit like dustborn, funded by the goverment... and we are forced at gunpoint to pay taxes... complicates the issue a little

[@elitetripod4188]

Quote: "I don't think that there is probably anyone out there that was hired or even knows they were hired because they were there to check a box" WRONG. You couldn't be more wrong. There are entire jobs and programs in dozens of western countries that only allow certain races or genders to apply. They exist only to check a box and to apply for them you have to explicitly say that you check that box. CDPR's scholarship program that was recently in the spotlight is a perfect example.

[@sillylilstella]

I really got into Deadlock recently and I think that game is a perfect showcase that an inclusive, diverse cast of characters is far from an inherently bad thing. Each hero has a cool design and aspirational traits that makes you *want* to play as them. Wraith takes the "black girlboss" archetype and gives it some actual flair, she's a suave telekinetic gambling kingpin who throws explosive playing cards and fires a steampunk tommy gun. McGinnis is the "turret engineer" character, a bit short and wide, but she doesn't need makeup or revealing clothing when she's got grease smudges and an portable artillery barrage on her back. Haze is a corporate assassin who infiltrates her target's dreams and kills them while they're sleeping. Lady Geist is an old bourgeoisie femme fatale who keeps her beauty through her midnight years by sucking the life out of others. My point is that the problem with something like Concord isn't "this game is too woke", its that Concord is a shitty, uninspired game with characters who are boring at best and horribly designed at worst, and corporate executives said "make this game appeal to everyone!" without actually knowing what representation means or what it can do for a game when its done right. I think inclusion is important, but when it's obviously hamfisted without a second thought, it's just offputting.

[@rensten4893]

DEI is another manifestation of moral panic. In the 90s, this was pushed by religious outsiders to gaming. In the early millennium, that was changed into social justice. Now, it's DEI. I'm simplifying a lot but the growth of this moral panic and the stretch of it really has to do with learning how they have that protection racket as shown in the video.

[@pyepye-io4vu]

The religious stuff can be called a moral panic, sure. But social justice / DEI are not moral panics. They are hate movements. Primarily hating men. They were invented in the 1970s / 80s in gender studies departments by women. All you have to do is read the books they wrote at the time. Exactly the same things as you see / hear today. In fact take a look at 1848 Seneca Falls Convention + Declaration of Sentiments. Pure hatred manifesto. What's the difference between then and now? There are WAY MORE WOMEN IN EVERYTHING now. Law, public, media, entertainment, work, education... Women are natural carriers / spreaders of these messages.

[@LuquePlayer]

this video got me thinking, I never had a issue with DEI as a concept, some of my favorite characters in pop culture from back in the day could be considered "DEI"today, Static Shock, Barret Wallace, Dorian Pavus, Constantine, Blade, Tomb Raider, between many others, and they were always their own character in their own right. But how they have been changing characters or replacing a IP direction, when I see something that smell DEI I already think will be bad because of that. Game industry is following all the mistakes that Hollywood did, and I am so tired of Californian way of media be imposed to everyone else in the world.

[@ubersc00ber]

Californian here -- we're tired too. These companies feel like they are being ran by the HR department and it shows. Not all of us have lost our minds. Many of my friends went from pretty progressive to moderate because we don't agree with the modern approach to inclusivity.

[@Motard.Actual]

Good, that’s what videos like this are for. That’s why you have some many people hating on DEI, it’s not because it’s a bad idea. It’s because we know it’s fake. A lot of people defending DEI are people who are terminally online and haven’t worked a corporate job.

[@Motard.Actual]

@@ubersc00beralso Ew, California…. Gross.

[@joeyginise6051]

First: you're wrong. Second: The purpose of DEI is erasure of white people. When was the last time you heard a black company be told they need a certain percentage of white employees?

[@jiskool1]

The reason why you like them is because they are cool and fleshed out. They aren’t a checkmark character but a character that has goals, wants, needs, backstory, etc.

[@ZwiekszoneRyzyko]

To think that the definitions and ideals of Diversity, Inclusion and Equity are actually something very positive and were supposed to help people. I hate how the activists twisted those into toxic environments where everyone has to walk on eggshells to not offend anyone. I work in corporate and it's exactly like that. Everybody keeps their mouths shut for fear of getting canceled and losing their jobs because some oversensitive diva rmay report you for any statement they don't like, even the most innocent one.

[@CurtOntheRadio]

I'm not surprised you keep your mouth shut when you hold such opinions of your colleagues. "oversensitive divas" reporting you for "any statement they don't like"? So, why do you think your workplace is an appropriate place to be upsetting people with your views?

[@sebastiansirvas1530]

They are not positive things when you account the ideologiea they want to smuggle in (marxoid Critical Theories).

[@ZwiekszoneRyzyko]

@@CurtOntheRadio Dude... slow down... I'm talkin about "You look great today" being reported as a microaggression.

[@CurtOntheRadio]

@@ZwiekszoneRyzyko It isn't difficult to imagine a context and tone of voice and circumstance in which that could easily be offensive. What are you doing commenting on how "oversensitive divas" look anyway? It's a workplace, not drinking time for the lounge-lizard, right?

[@MrMcWitt]

You understand that is exactly why they do it though? For power, for money, for influence. it’s a power game, they found a glitch where people can’t challenge them. It’s getting patched as we speak but they’ll kick and scream on the way out because a lot of them have ended up in very cushy positions that they don’t deserve all while having to do very little. They’re not gonna give that up without a fight.

[@Duskmelt]

Thanks for speaking out on this

[@digitalxcaffeine]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1571">26:11</a> hits hard for a lot of us they're trying to represent. "Hey look, we got a character that was put in just to make you feel welcome! Oh, but we don't actually stand by having them there as something important to the game and have removed them when selling to select markets."

[@dlc_2678]

To be fair, Hypnotic, Grummz, nor Smash JT aren't the racists that were making the comments you were referring to in that stream. That was Ryan and maybe one other person. That stream was justifiably taken down by YT within a day or 2. It's a bad look for those of us who hate DEI and what it represents and is doing to the gaming industry for sure, which is something that Hypnotic will have to publicly deal with and address to keep his reputation and credibility intact since it was on his channel...Those 2 jackasses just gave the DEI pushers ammunition to use against gamers to double down and dig in deeper. It added more fuel to the fire and was entirely unnecessary. They do not speak for ALL of us by any means, and should be ostracized and ignored by everyone on BOTH sides accordingly

[@marzblood]

Hypnotic as already addressed it on 2 of his late night streams and so has smashJT. SJT has even had other KZbinrs to talk about it and Hypnotic has a Sunday stream schedule for it.

[@AAjax]

@@marzblood I saw the SmashJT stream with Ryan and Mike Hollow. While SJT said he didn't agree with the stuff Ryan said, my take is he worked overtime on being Ryan's apologist. Saying it was just comedy, and Ryan says that kind of stuff all the time. All the while Ryan was saying it's ok to say that stuff because he speaks his mind, and is against censorship. I didn't see Hypnotic's reply, but I've seen commentary that he's standing by Ryan and his right to say this stuff. Is that wrong?

[@marzblood]

@@AAjax you half right, SJT wasn't running damage control for Ryan but instead he was trying to be an intermediate during the stream and trying to clear his name do to the fact that ppl on X attacked him and Hypnotic first before even going after the actual person that was Ryan. To be clear I believe in the first amendment (since I'm American) and yes freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of consequences but in social media everything is offensive and your guilty before proven innocent. My believe is it was a bad joke and maybe a few ppl might have found it funny but let's be real 90% of the ppl claiming they knew it was racist did not even know that was a racist joke.

[@D3adCl0wn]

See, this is the problem I see about the "push" against DEI in gaming. Instead of us simply making fun of it and not supporting such games, there's a subset of us that are malding on its existence. There was no boycott on Suicide Squad, Concord, Dustborn, or Unknown 9, yet they got the outcome we all wanted; FAILURE. DEI games are not the only games in the market and no one is forced to play them last I checked, so this doom and gloom is as annoying as pushing DEI in gaming.

[@AAjax]

​@@marzblood I watched the Smash stream, and I'm telling you how it landed with me. I watched Smash regularly before all of this. Take that for whatever it's worth. I'm all about intent mattering. When Michael Richards (Kramer) was doing stand-up and dealt with hecklers with a series of N bombs, he said he was trying to deal with the hecklers in a way that was cutting and blew it. In my mind, I had instant forgiveness for the human being and a bit of sorrow for his consequences. I think people get Ryan was making an edgelord raycist joke. But he's saying he meant all of it too, which takes away any grace you get when you joke and it gets out of hand, because he's just going to do it again and again. For him to complain about "cancel culture" when he's intentionally telling raycist jokes... Ryan my dude, people get to react badly to your humour and tell other people not to support this garbage. It's no more cancel culture than Sweet Baby Inc Detected is.

[@ntall123]

I think we need to consider a change in perspective. What has SBI actually done? So far, they have destroyed studio's that don't really deserve to exist based on the products they create, and they have decimated pre-orders across the industry. In my book, this is a W.

[@DtLS]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="495">8:15</a> I'm gonna have to stop you right there. There's a saying "Even 'C's get degrees" and as someone that was a Teacher's Assistant for quite a few of my college's CompSci courses it is incredibly accurate. You would not believe how low the bar for passing is.

[@CleverCodger]

All my years in life and there is one immutable fact. Where there is a lot of money to be made, there are bad actors. DEI in it's current form is a grift pushed on gaming at the expense of the product and the user (gamers) experience. More often it is used a shield against criticism of bad games where we the gamers are told to accept subpar products. Products that are costly enough.

[@nodwick4231]

There are people that are hired just to check a box, and they have to know it. They show up to work on their first day, are less qualified that anyone already there, and get nothing to do.

[@MightyZannn]

I still have my PS1 and Dead or Alive 1... the move combos in that game are psychotic.. and the jiggles go pretty good too...

[@wavion2]

Baldur's Gate 3 is the perfect example. It checks all of the same boxes that these other DEI games, from race, gender, sexuality, etc. And nobody cares. Because the game is amazing and the characters are well-written, and none of it feels out of place. It is obvious to gamers when the focus is being put on making a great game vs pushing an agenda. And it's obvious when the people making the games don't have the talent/skill to do it well. And every time these terrible games fail, they always pull the racism/sexism/phobic card, and gamers are sick of it. Gamers are one of the most accepting groups there is. They might insult you, but that just means they like you.

[@creatorsfreedom6734]

every time i see a comment bring up baller's gate 3 i think of that crowd of weebs who laughed at the man bear pig segz scene at E 3 , which showed to me how far gone that society is

[@wavion2]

@@creatorsfreedom6734 You're hardly one to talk when it comes to societal decline, as evidenced by your smooth brain comment.

[@jamonyqueso6328]

No.

[@The_Primary_Axiom]

If there is no sorrow, if there is no beauty if there is no passion it’s not art. Without those 3 you have nothing. Without beauty especially you have nothing. What is art without those 3 ? Nothingness.

[@Draconisrex1]

You really love the fallacy of the Golden Middle. FWIW, Haidt, the sociologist, has done remarkable work on left/center/right. The left, fundamentally, scores far lower in most moral domains. Worse, why the right and center understand the left and their morality across the six domains, the left doesn't think the center and the right have ANY morals. This isn't a both-sides issue no matter how much you play that game. This is an abusive left who, historically, when they've gotten power have filled up the re-education camps, censored free speech and racked-up death counts in the millions through their totalitarian ways. All in the name making their 'Utopian Society' which is IMPOSSIBLE to create.

[@aznhomig]

"Both sidesism" is an intellectually lazy take anyways. The current state of affairs is clearly something akin to a 90-10 ratio of left-versus-right bad actors. The left have clearly captured the institutions, media, and entertainment with their decades-long march through the institutions and are clearly the status quo establishment that must be challenged. Trying to equate irrelevant right-wing religious zealots with the actual leviathan of left-wing religious zealots confuses where the actual problem truly lies.

[@IrrelevantPlease]

Thank you for pointing this out. I'm tired of spineless cowards butting in to stifle the discussion every time "sides" are brought up.

[@ASEVENK]

AH yes, the classically moral Right, who spent 4 centuries enslaving the globe, raping it for its resources, and brutally supressing any opposition to their system, culminating in the single greatest conflict with more death and destruction than had ever been recorded in history. The Left had its role to play in that barbarism but dont pretend like the right hasnt spent the past 4 centuries brutalizing the planet in search of fabulous wealth, power, and domination. Is it any wonder the reaction is the way it is? They learned by watching their oppresors.

[@ASEVENK]

There are fundamental issues with Haidt's analysis, like how it completely ignores how the left would view something like purity or authority and how his questions are loaded to favcor one side over the other. On the left Purity would be about ones actions being in accordance with their beliefs, Do you walk the walk so to speak. On the right I hear many christians lament about the poor and suffering. and in the next breath call the cops on a homeless man that dared to exist uncomfortably close to them.

[@arostwocents]

Poor to not even mention the racism of DEI. I think being "moderate" you are taking the terms they use under their dictionary meaning without understanding its newspeak and diversity and inclusion dont mean what they used to.

[@ChromaSoul]

You hit so many good points. Articulated it perfectly. Great video.

[@AC-ut3nk]

The only thing that DEI give to the gamer is that Now we know all these AAA company true color. When the time come we will be laughing at their Modern game.

[@phoenicia1313]

Indeed, for those who didn't know before or needed further convincing. We shall continue laughing at their failures.

[@Ptown_1988]

Great video, brother. One of the biggest issues with this modernized DEI is the characters they create using it are inappropriate, often offensive, caricatures of the groups they are trying to represent. Members of these groups should be appalled by the ridiculous injection of a stereotype of them.

[@DeaD1te]

the pic of the sweet baby inc employee with a bullet point behind her listing "why are we here" and "to burn the gaming industry to the ground"... how true - milk it as long as you can SBI... the well WILL run dry for you.

[@Rogue-ish-k2h]

first of all thank you for covering this topic. I don’t think ever I’ve heard someone talk on this issue with a more level headed demeanor than yours. Your candor and clarity are really appreciated. Second, as an artist (and gamer), my heart couldn’t be more broken by this assault on the arts, freedom of expression, and humanity. I love this industry because it’s given me everything by means of appreciation for art, writing, and music. This is the ultimate art form! And in an age where we as a human race have more money and time to devote ourselves to an ultimate art form, we come up with reasons to slide ourselves into an unprecedented cultural dark age. I hope we can overcome this… hurts my soul.

[@matthewvandyk7773]

As a white Christian im usually painted as the villain from the DEI crowd. I honestly just want good games with either no Sexualality. Outside of Nintendo its becoming a hard thing to find. I'll continue to play my switch and play games with my kids and friends and family. Honestly I have given up on games Outside of Nintendo and sonic. And here in Canada i have zero faith in our government. The UN states our international workers are slaves. Sad time yo be a gamer :(

[@mawnkey]

I always hear this "DEI is great in theory" line from people trying to appear even-handed. It's _not._ It's the philosophies of A Gramsci (I can't write his full name or KZbin deletes the comment) put in to action. The production of bad products and collapse of entertainment is not a bug; it's a central _feature._ Go look up that name. You'll understand very quickly.

[@Syntax.error.]

Thank God for Asia and Eastern Europe for still making good games.

[@Alunae]

I’m so touched and genuinely moved by ur last three minutes of comments. We care because it is a space where we can be ourselves and actively shape as a community. ❤

[@jimlok1089]

Damn, your opoinion is pretty neat. Tbh, you are one of the best commentary content creator I've seen. Everything happening is so well-explained in your take.

[@BrockWittmayer]

With the title of the video you already know it’s gonna be good

[@holysecret2]

I don't feel like you touched enough on the point that a lot of this stuff actually causes more racism and bigotry. I know that I didn't care about race one bit 10 years ago, now I tend to be quite distrustful why certain characters are portrayed in certain ways. When you can't be sure whether something is genuine or not, that absolutely destroys investment and good will. That time in the past was more innocent. An innocence that feels corrupted now by greed, hate, power politics.

[@patpanic2365]

You nailed it… again :) Feells good to hear.

[@japangator]

I'm truly tired of the extreme opinions on social media being the loudest ones, to the point that the rest of us might as well not even waste our breath

[@Tedrow_Crusoe]

I really think the consultants and worrying about shareholders are the big problem here. DEI and SBI are just the snake oil, as you stated. Diversity is turning into a scapegoat for shitty games and it sucks. It's really clear that you do a lot of research for these videos. Thank you for the quality content!

[@Old_Machine_Spirit]

Ah private Equities: the super cancer of EVERY industry