LONGEST Board Game of ALL TIME - 3 Years 7 Months and 10 Days - DIPLOMACY - World Championship Game

[@DiploStrats]

This game was truly a once in a lifetime thing. Thanks for covering it and for having me on!

[@LegendaryTactics]

Absolutely. We appreciate you making this video possible and for sharing your expertise with us.

[@primetime3422]

Watching this I have a MAD RESPECT for the players of this game.

[@LegendaryTactics]

Yeah, it's beyond fathomable.

[@Sploack]

I'm watching this video while playing a speedboat game with CaptainMeme as one of the players. Epic :D

[@LegendaryTactics]

Awesome that you can multitask like that. Let us know how you do. I need all my attention focused when I have played against/with Meme.

[@Sploack]

@@LegendaryTactics This particular game didn't go so well for me, but in this tournament I have had the chance to play with Meme multiple times and he's a force to be reckoned with.

[@vald-qb2ow]

One must imagine a diplomacy player happy

[@LegendaryTactics]

Might be hard to do!

[@Heldermaior]

This channel is warming me up to diplomacy. I never really "got" diplomacy. Played a few games and found it boring. I love playing Imperial though. Imperial feels like an evolution of diplomacy. It might be the time to learn how to play diplomacy properly though

[@funaraeeeee8002]

Until you met the game called: The Campaign of North Africa, which will take you 1500 hours to finish it

[@LegendaryTactics]

It won't take ME that long. I likely wouldn't get past the first hour of play.

[@aoki6332]

the thing is Diplomacy is simple Campaign of North Africa is designed to be long the game is tedious and as way to many rule so not that fun to play no one as ever played fully and the dude that made it really did as a fun project so its a wonder if it can even be completed

[@slipjones2]

@@aoki6332funny I find diplomacy to be boring. One weak player at the table and you lose do to that players poor interaction with the the other players. Like playing multi-player games at conventions. Some ones buddy gives the game away to their friend.

[@slipjones2]

@@LegendaryTacticsgood to know but it’s still longer

[@aoki6332]

@@slipjones2 you can find it boring do not change the fact that Diplomacy is a real game while campagne of North Africa is a project made to be the most complex and long tabletop game ever made to a point where it will take thousand of hour to even try to finish it

[@Materialist39]

Just discovered your channel- the hodgepodge experience I have from A&A1942, starcraft 1 diplo custom maps, and poker has convinced me to get my friends to get some diplomacy games going. You’re also genuinely an excellent interviewer which helps in understanding the game for complete noobs (like myself).

[@LegendaryTactics]

That's very kind of you to say! Diplomacy is a game that I play in bursts. Glad to have you here!

[@tasnica2438]

Oh hey, another video covering this game! I was Italy's teammate, but my own game in the Finals ended much, much, much sooner than this one! Really dodged a bullet there.

[@orimoreau3138]

How disappointing, they played for 3.5 years only to have the campaign end with players deciding : let's just let Italy win to spite Russia. shame

[@metalsonic17]

The Campain of North Africa: Hello There

[@LegendaryTactics]

There's another kind of insanity

[@metalsonic17]

@@LegendaryTactics Well, you said LONGEST Board Game of ALL TIME, someone had to bring it up lol

[@TheaterCommanders1940]

Bro your channel is awesome! Stumbled across it and absolutely love the diplomacy videos

[@LegendaryTactics]

Thank you so much! Glad you're enjoying them!!

[@terryr9052]

Very cool! I played against Leif Syverson (Germany) on the vdiplomacy server almost a decade ago.

[@LegendaryTactics]

Time flies when you're stabbing friends.

[@IIAOPSW]

The war to end all wars become the war that never ends.

[@LegendaryTactics]

Well said!

[@4DAKINGBEETLE]

The Campaign for North Africa: hold my beer

[@LegendaryTactics]

Hahaha, true! I do want to try that at some point - it just seems so over the top

[@pauldj6]

Super cool video, as usual. Guys, how about making a video about a game of "The Campaign for North Africa: The Desert War 1940-43" ? I am intrigued.

[@LegendaryTactics]

Thank you. Our primary reason for not doing it yet is that we'd need to set aside a few months for the playthrough. But if our sanity levels change, we might have to re-consider.

[@Heldermaior]

@@LegendaryTactics you could also invedtigate the only recprded play of War in the Pacific Second edition. The players too almost 4 years to play the war. Almost a 1:1 time scale.

[@omkarchakraborty1739]

Ah, finally.

[@LegendaryTactics]

I've been thinking about doing this game for almost a year. I'm glad to have finally finished it.

[@dr0g_Oakblood]

Up next, the Campaign for North Africa

[@LegendaryTactics]

On it! See you on the video comments in 5 years! :)

[@Qossuth]

Longest game of Diplomacy for sure, but I back in the 90s I ran a game of Gunboat Diplomacy for almost five years before my zine folded and the game was orphaned and successfully transferred. Most of the players were original at the time of the transfer (at game year 1924) but I don't know the ultimate fate, except that the game was completed eventually. My zine was probably average speed (4 and then 5 week deadlines) and I'd be very surprised if other publishers didn't surpass this "record." The longest game of Regular Dip I ran went to 1917 and probably lasted 3-1/2 actual years. I guess I'm sort of quibbling about the longest "board game" video title :) I haven't played Dip on current systems and I'm confused by what you said about Press in this game. Were ALL negotiations conducted out in the open? Didn't the players know each other in real life? @7:03 you show 3 of the players being interviewed by a podcast, didn't they have ways to contact each other outside the Backstabbr system? Not that I would ever suspect Diplomacy players of underhanded tactics EXCEPT THAT THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY ALLOWED IN THE RULE BOOK! :)

[@LegendaryTactics]

Thanks for letting us know about these. Do you have a link to the zines that covered the game? It's so incredibly rare to find such balance to sustain a game this long. The press was indeed visible to all, but I think the tournament format keeps all communication inside the game and accessible to all, though, I'm not sure the original ruleset would have predicted the level of connectedness that we have in our digital world today.

[@Qossuth]

@@LegendaryTactics Sorry, to be clear i was the publisher/GM, not one of the players :) The zine in question was UPSTART, at one time reputed to have "the best maps in the business," a slogan I used to annoy people with. (At the time there was "controversy" over whether zines should bother with maps, etc.) I think the fact that even in zippy well-run zines (like UPSTART when I started) you were lucky to get through five game years in an actual real-life year, gave each game tremendous importance. Whole institutions like the Boardman and Miller Number Custodians were erected to maintain game continuity after messy folds (like UPSTART when I finished). We took the business of having fun very seriously, I guess. Press where we pretended to be some potentate or other fit right in with this inflated sense of importance. Pretty sure that the same spirit was part of the incredible game you covered here.

[@LegendaryTactics]

@@Qossuth Thanks for giving us a little glimpse into the quasi-lost History of the zines. I think the Briefing is still bringing some of these back to life.

[@kongolandwalker]

Why Subterfuge game doesn't get as much attention...

[@nikmaxter]

This is so interesting!

[@LegendaryTactics]

Thanks for checking it out. Have you played much Diplomacy Nik?

[@nikmaxter]

@@LegendaryTactics Actually not, First time hearing about it. Looks very interesting but its not really my kind of game. Still, seeing people who are good at these games is fascinating.

[@Amber-vn2le]

Campaign of North Africa when?

[@Apeshower]

Interesting video. I will say his haircut was not a surprise…… 😉

[@braydenalbright5470]

Are you able to provide the link to this game in Backstabbr? I would like to see it on the site.

[@LegendaryTactics]

The game was played on WebDiplomacy. Captainmeme graciously shared his Backstabbr re-creation of the game with me.

[@braydenalbright5470]

@@LegendaryTactics Ok

[@braydenalbright5470]

@@LegendaryTactics Can not imagine recreating such a long game on sandbox. One wrong move and you have to make a new sandbox.

[@dżentelmeniprzystole]

Oooo coś dla mnie :)

[@LegendaryTactics]

O Boże. Mam nadzieję, że ci się spodoba. (Oh good, I hope you enjoy it)

[@AsadbekAbdunazarov-ip1bi]

Game?

[@LegendaryTactics]

Diplomacy!

[@primetime3422]

I actually have an idea on how to communicate with other players privately in public press. This is not actually meeting then irl. Ok so at the beginning of the game u could ask people or as the game goes on figure out what peoples interests are. You can then alliterate to aspects of those interests only the person u r communicating with will understand. Say for example. England could refer to Russia of a battle, and England is 99% Russia knows about that time period of military history, and therefor probably knows about that battle. Then looking at the board Russia could think why would Wngland reference that battle? And then bam! Oooh England wants me to support or move or convoy or something because a,b, and c happened in that battle! Of course that system is fallible as Russia could misinterpret what England is saying, or another power at odds with England and Russia could correctly interpret what England is sayin. But nonetheless I would still argue it is better than guessing on past moves and predicting. Thoughts?

[@antonhengst8667]

what

[@primetime3422]

@@antonhengst8667 do u have qiestionsV