Saving Your Disaster Campaigns - Tyrion shows Alarielle who wears the pants

[@blackknight4152]

"The silverhelms are just garbage, you might as well just put a fat person on a trolley and push him around." This made my day

[@Alucard6297]

SYDC should be a treat tbh. Find the ones you think will be a fun challenge for you. Excited.

[@1001themaster]

100% agreed

[@chemicalbacon5210]

For future reference the holes in the wall happened because the enemy faction used the invocation of vaul rite prior to the siege One of the effects is the ability to instantly demolish a small section of wall, twice per battle with a 45 second cooldown

[@manhphuc4335]

Chemical Bacon the new patch only deals 85% damage

[@lek1223]

@@manhphuc4335 I used it yesterday, still 100% destruction, but more like 120s cooldown

[@Hopesedge]

53:55 "Without fail!" 4 seconds later "OuR cAuSe Is fAiLiNg"

[@JB-xl2jc]

Almost as good as "Loyal follower of Ulthuan! In Alarielle's name!!" *Attacks Allarielle's army*

[@WellWisdom.]

After pear harbor, the US request Legend to save their campaign, the rest is history...

[@tavi5922]

More like USSR 1942

[@Cam-sl8ve]

More like German 1944

[@superguy911]

Germany during the battle of Berlin: ultra legendary mode

[@rovers141]

Nope, Fat Man and Little Boy accomplished that quite well enough.

[@Sm4shBG]

@@rovers141 r/wooooosh

[@grahamcoombe5461]

Super psyched to see you’re doing sydc campaigns again Legend, especially warhammer ones!!!

[@patrickcharzin3062]

Allarielle: Our arrows will block out the sun! Legend: Meh, I'll just dodge em all with an eagle.

[@MarnixvanOort]

I am glad that the disaster campaigns are kept on the channel :D

[@lordbusiness2676]

The thumbnail looks so good. Big thumbs up, Legend

[@emperorcaesar4311]

One thing about WH2, there's a 'timeline' feature in the faction details (button on top right). It can maybe help you get some context on how things happened, like how the guy that played this campaign got to a low reliability; maybe attacked Saphary while they had an agreement cause he saw an opportunity., stuff like that. Nice to see SYDC back tho, cheers.

[@Kaiimei]

Yeah, if he checked that he can possibly weed out more fake campaigns from people who have deliberately messed up, like declaring random wars on nearby people after a little while then sending it to Legend.

[@richardg8376]

You also get low reliability if you're allied to two factions and one attacks the other. By joining one side you suddenly jump to "very low" reliability. Very annoying.

[@rovers141]

@@richardg8376 This is true. That's exactly why you never ally yourself to anyone before checking their relations with other potential allies. Actually I rarely ally with anyone, I usually find out who is pissing everyone off and I destroy them and confederate the strongest of the factions that loved me for doing so. Everyone else I either wait for enemies to kill them, or I confederate them later on. Alliances are deceptive in total war games, they seem like a great idea but usually just rope you into unecessary wars. Another downside is if you become military allies with someone, their power rating will raise if you are considerably more powerful than them, which means confederating becomes more difficult because they don't consider themselves weak enough to warrant it!

[@jacobhewitt2798]

This is like when a superhero dies and then comes back 2 weeks later

[@schuttle89]

If you expect to see Legend be cheese free... ever... you need to adjust your expectation

[@stevengood5291]

its what makes a good player differ from an average player. finding the mechanical finesse in a game. I just assumed everyone knew these things and used them i didnt realize it was a " cheese" and imo these are basic things in comparison to what i actually considered cheesey

[@K4inan]

@@stevengood5291 Ok mister genius "The Einstein" of tw warhammer lol

[@minhnguyen5888]

Fighting with Alariel. Troops be like "for the Queen", "by alariel"

[@jandyb6369]

Looking forward to this. The campaign is getting harder now as they keep adding new factions and now the Vampire Coast faction is patrolling the seas

[@sauron1536]

The coast is not that efficient as an AI faction. Actually, none of them is. I'm somewhat sure, unless Lothern takes Bore Ragnarok in the south-west, it won't be even attacked by the dreadfleet. That last part is probably not even true so the whole comment's intention was to land a pun

[@nariac07]

Oh yay! I was sad to see SYDC go, so thrilled to see it's back!

[@sneakynickname1972]

Hi Legend! I enjoyed all of your recent innovations to the channel. I think it is great you decided to keep SYDC formula. I couldn't ask for a better tutorial on how to handle "shitty situations" every TW game tries to drag you into.

[@matthewshearer8456]

warhammer cities so tiny, remember the layered forts of rome 2?

[@setheus907]

I really like these "Saving Your Disaster Campaigns" vids. Keep em coming I'd watch plenty of these

[@onnol917]

I come here for the challenge you endure And how you badmouth certain units. I can imagine a genral saying this, pure gold

[@ArtanisOwns]

it was the invocation of Vaul that destroyed your wall. pretty strong rite for the high elfs

[@sim872369872362]

Today i learned you could move portraits around to arrange unit order

[@Mactav3]

"Silver Helms are useless" - as he charges them into anti large unit and leaves them in prolonged melee for over a minute... LoTW please, It's a cheaper, less armoured and faster Reiksguard, not godamn Grail Guardians.

[@leadpaintchips9461]

he also had them charge into Sisters, and they lost that melee...

[@Galileo0601]

@@leadpaintchips9461 no they didn't, charged into two sisters and took them out... we watching the same vid?

[@conman7298]

@@leadpaintchips9461 regardless they're shock cavalry, reiksguard are great but if you charge them into two groups of ungor spearmen and leave them they'll lose. You have to play to a units strengths.

[@bobthetop3242]

joey letters sounds stupid to me. what you think about it?

[@DavianLicanius]

@@conman7298 How are Sisters even analogous to spearmen

[@emiledlund9559]

Now i get why they couldn’t fly the eagles into mordor, They were all to busy flying around arrows

[@dominicverissimo1571]

i Love these series btw, i know this is from a while ago but this is brilliant and love watching how you somehow get out of these difficult situation.

[@DougStewart]

Looks like its time for an Elf sandwich.

[@thatonecunningskaven7154]

Douglas Stewart elf-things taste good-good!

[@TheSirNikos]

Gj legend! Keep up the SYDC's . P.S. "Tyrion shows Alarielle who wears the pants" best video title notification of the day i laughed hard!

[@juanpablobarrientos1039]

Thanks for listening to the feedback legend having sydc once in a while is pretty nice

[@mason9806]

Good to see you back Legend.

[@noobtube4760]

Glad your continuing this series. I find it very entertaining.

[@rhysduffy895]

Missed these! They were a part of my daily routine on youtube love it! 💚

[@dominicmoodie7601]

Super glad to see sydc back even if it’s a weekly basis. Thanks legend you’re the best man!!!!

[@TheHawkeye275]

"Sisters of Avelorn are the best Archer units in the game" *_Laughs in Waywatchers_*

[@original5806]

Well considering the rosters as well in terms of campaign i feel like the sisters are better... What i mean is that WE rely soo much on waywatchers as their frontline is pretty squishy so skirmishing is their only option... which means micro intensive.. siters on the other hand can rely on the tanky HE front line and are pretty durable themselves with high melee defense... plus sisters are 80 waywatchers are 60.. so in terms of archer stats maybe waywatchers but all around i would go with sisters

[@triploshadow]

@@hallo-mt5tx Waywatchers are virtually invisible even when shooting, meaning their are almost immune to artilery, they can fire while moving in all directions, they have higher range and better armorpiercing and if you put them near trees they will almost never miss. Sure if you take raw DPS sisters will do better but as a unit as a whole I feel they are superior.

[@ArcDemonStudio]

Yew but waywatchers have like half the ammo of sisters

[@bobthetop3242]

Nikos Mapas can sisters beat empire sword men?

[@CoverofWinter]

@@bobthetop3242 by the time the sword men are in range to charge they will be halfway dead already

[@FabriRRBS]

i learned a lot from this, from now on ill be recruiting more cavarly can't belive how good they are

[@toastrmonky8593]

Really like these videos and solid work as always turning it around. Could have used his 120 influence to help counteract the low reliability though, but a great campaign.

[@Victard]

Awesome to see more TTW Warhammer content, I really like watching you play this game specially and it's very enjoyable to watch your content. ^^

[@Niscimble]

1:01:06 "That is absurd actually" hahahaha

[@Rawkit_Surgeon]

That great chicken was the real MVP.

[@Malyfous]

Congrats on reaching 110K subs, your channel is really growing these past few weeks! A little feedback while I'm here: I really like that you're explaining what you're doing when you're fighting those extra hard battles. I also think that two SYDC per week is a nice balance, to prevent viewer fatigue. However, have you considered more regular let's play alongside the Last Stand and SYDC? Maybe choosing the hardest campaigns across all Total Wars? I know that you said you want to keep Warhammer on Twitch, but there are not many big KZbinrs with the guts to play warhammer on Legendary (and even most of those are just Twitch streams). Since you've come to appreciate it now, have you ever thought of doing challenge campaigns on warhammer? Most viewers get bored once the campaign reach the grinding point, but you could do some very short challenge campaigns with objectives you've chosen yourself. Won't that help keep the campaign interesting?

[@seasnutz9741]

Great video, love both of these series. Thx legend

[@leadpaintchips9461]

That first battle just shows how silly having hero stacks are, specifically the elf hero stacks. This whole SYDC is just showing me that the bonuses that the AI gets for cranking up the difficulty is BS. As to the reliability, I'm guessing that it might have been the borked derplomacy that this game has. If two allies declare war on each other (which isn't uncommon in the early elf campaign) then your reliability tanks. As to who wears the pants, neither one of them, because they're both elves so they both wear dresses.

[@acefinelli5847]

Much love for your SYDC vids!

[@TheJorge10466]

Lol. When he flipped out over the cavalry recruitment building in Lothern, that made me laugh so damn hard.

[@alianabestani9564]

SYDC IS BACK! YES! I appreciate you bringing it back! love u legend you are the best youtuber bro.

[@darth0tator]

how fitting, just finished my own Warhammer 2 campaign yesterday and now this, beautiful starting battle

[@xFatBoySlimm]

You probably know this by now but i reckon the walls at start were destroyed using the Vaul's Anvil rite that High Elves get. Allows you to destroy 3 castle walls per siege battle for 5 turns or something

[@jackgreenlee7223]

Absolutely loved this, especially the cheese play with the huge chicken, trying to cross the busy street. Unorthodox to say the least, but effective just the same. And that chicken deserves a medal btw!

[@donaldobrien2614]

Thanks for hearing the SYDC fans out! Very happy to see a return! But like the top comment says, I think SYDC should be a treat, not an obligation :)

[@Sombody123]

This is why I don't play the very hard difficulty. You'll end up cheesing a lot if you don't want to throw away your campaigns left and right.

[@systemshocker7634]

TY for these! I like these and the last stand vids.

[@redelephantsdotnl]

You can get that reliability thing very easily as helves if you're not careful. In the beginning, if you try to get on good terms with all the kingdoms, get non-aggression pacts and alliances with as many as you can, or just accept the ones you are asked for.. They will all declare on each other regardless. I think that's intentional, so you have an incentive to use that influence thing in the elven courts, and/or to make sure you will always have a neighboring enemy as soon as you run out.

[@dannyalex5866]

The map reminds me rise of the witch king ,2v1 ,Fornost or something like that...great work Legend

[@rovers141]

That first battle...I definitely learned some new tricks but there's 1 thing I would have done differently. at 19:03 you finally sent lothern sea guard that were out of ammo for ages into melee, instead of letting their archers hammer your valuable white lions for so long I would have put the sea guard front and center the second they ran out of ammo. They have shields to deflect shots, and they're really not bad in melee either. Maybe even the 2 regular archer units as well, they're so cheap and useless after running out of ammo that you may as well have them go soak up some sister arrows!

[@mihaicosmingradinaru1859]

Watching this 2 years later and how Legend plays the game now (mass archers), makes me think what was he thinking with all those spears ...

[@jarritostf2188]

watching that Eagle bob and weave like Ali was fucking nutty I was clenched the whole time

[@absoluteManiac]

Imagine being in the fray of that battle with the "Finest archers in the world" and having the general screaming in your face "SHOOT THE FUCKIN BIRD FOR FUCKS SAKE"

[@T33K3SS3LCH3N]

It always annoys me how Pyrrhic victory is supposed to describe a technical win that gained so little at such cost that it is a strategic disadvantage, whereas in Total War its often used for the most pivotal battles that open up the path to victory.

[@svenbrede6151]

I mean Cav still has it's uses. Rearcharges are still awesome after all. Not for prolonged fighting, that is cerainly true. The eagles are... mostly useless, that certainly is true. Interestingly enough they do perform well on walls. Flyers are crazy there since you can land them with terror inside an enemy troup to flank them. Though your use was still way better given the reduction to your enemies efficacy. Really good prediction as to what the battle would look like.

[@SeasonsMad042]

+Sven Brede Cav has its uses. Silver Helms are the issue. That's what he was complaining about, not that Cav is useless as a whole, that Silver Helms are one of the worst Cav in the game. And I can't help but agree with him. Saying that, even they have their uses. Chasing units off the map is always helpful.

[@svenbrede6151]

@@SeasonsMad042 I see, didn't quite get that.

[@StillRooneyStarcraft]

@@SeasonsMad042 Plus they get obliterated first in autoresolve.

[@SeasonsMad042]

@@StillRooneyStarcraft Probably because the AI uses them like actual Cav instead of glorified hunting dogs.

[@KnightofBretonnia]

Alarielle decided to put on a light show for Tyrion outside of Lothern, how kind of her!

[@Bashkadaf]

Thanks, it was long wait to see another warhammer2 sydc!

[@TheIsleNarrator]

I agree that SYDC should be a treat and something special, find interesting scenarios or even see if you can create some interesting scenarios yourself by putting some restrictions on what you can do. Since SYDC is 1 hour + release one every week or every other week. Glad to see it return though :)

[@DIY_Miracle]

I'd love to see you give a crack at this for Crusader Kings 2. I've had plenty of campaigns in it that end in disaster.

[@silverdeathgamer2907]

How? No offense but it is very easy to get powerful alliances and the enemies generals are often terrible( they often run nobles with martial of 6-12) and can easily be baited into attacking you over rivers or when you are on mountains. Not to mention it is relatively easy to inherit land and once you are large enough your vassals will start adding land to your empire also. The only challenge in CK2 are jihads, crusades, event invasions and civil wars(which can be easily avoided by using intrigue properly, imprisoning threats before they become a problem or bribing them with viceroyalties, gifts, honorary titles and duchies). Certain starts are difficult but not for very long.

[@DIY_Miracle]

@@silverdeathgamer2907 Sort of answered your own question there. There are plenty of game ending scenarios.

[@silverdeathgamer2907]

@@DIY_Miracle Still they are very manageable, especially compared to the total war equivalent. That said if you are in Europe and want help in CK2 tell me(preferably multiplayer instead of sending me the save).

[@lordinquisitorstefanauster846]

This is similar to the Stealing the enemies arrow with straw boats strategy of the 3 kingdoms used at red cliff by Zhuge Liang.

[@MrMattyFo]

Good stuff, every time I watched a last stand video I would have been very interested to see you continue the campaign to try and turn things around.

[@antonioking2602]

That eagle was in the matrix against those archers during the first battle. Sheesh!

[@AurioDK]

In my game all the High Elves are hugging trees together, after an initial push by Tyrion on the right side and my push as Alarielle towards Khaine´s hideout + the territory to her right the war on Ulthuan came to a halt. I confederated Chrace and had no idea what to do after that .... Nagarythe were steamrolling the Druchi, they seem to be hit or miss as a faction on their own. I gave up out of boredom.

[@CoverofWinter]

If you are playing normal you can confederate with the legendary lords by having good relations and paying them silly amounts of money.

[@pakornwattanavrangkul2550]

6:40 Christ, that lightshow

[@zandarmaver5569]

That eagle is like a starfighter avoiding laser fire.

[@gromstar]

Great to see SYDC from Warhammer! Thanks Legend!

[@dc3bear]

Thanks mate, enjoyed it.

[@pageryan37]

you've been hit by you've been struck by a smooth eagle

[@LukasGookas]

When I saw the eagle matrix dodging all the arrows I knew. This is it chief.

[@Kindiko]

Dude managed to keep Caledor friendly and got everyone else pissed off wtf

[@mythofreadiness2213]

Just think that dam eagle was like Commander what do you want me to do? Commander : Fly in and freak the fuck out. The enemy Ai will use all their ammo trying to hit you.

[@Hslt95]

how the fuck do you fuck up playing as Tyrion

[@jalalal8056]

These saving your disaster campaigns just turn into cheese

[@3ndeavor]

Nice! Glad for the return!

[@shando4105]

Man you made me play this again

[@minhnguyen5888]

Tyrion with the bloodline of aenerion plus the evil sword (i forgot the name) is a monster, as long as you do the diplomacy and managemen right. In my legendary gameplay he single handed destroyed a tier 3 chaos army including prince sigvald, hellcannons, dragon orges, chosen infantry with ease.

[@michaelmiller8600]

For a supposedly diplomatic and moral guy, Tyrion sure can be a bloodlusting psychopath

[@Dionihilo]

Depending on the difficulty I find the warhammer games the most cheese-proof for the player. The only ones doing the cheesing and getting away with it tend to be the AI. 6 rank 20+ heroes, 4 dragon princes, 5 sisters of Avelorn and 4 star dragons in every single army? MMMMyeah okay I'm calling BS on that.

[@Shrapnel57]

Warhammer campaigns begin off really hard. Once The ball gets rolling you can't really notice The difficulty differences between very hard and normal anymore.

[@DarkFilmDirector]

Supposedly Three Kingdoms will be working to fix the schizophrenic AI, at least when it comes to diplomacy. Looks like they've actually done something other than make it a battle simulator like the past five TW titles have been.

[@chadkensington6710]

@Joe Plummer Nonsense.

[@rodh1404]

@Joe Plummer Did you notice what happened with the eagle in the first part of the siege battle? Admittedly, siege units do tend to have a big advantage vs blobs, so that can work. And I do like using archer heavy armies because they tend to take fewer losses if used correctly. But you still need a decent front line (more than a single unit) or you will get wrecked.

[@Dionihilo]

​@Joe Plummer Yeah that works when the AI is fielding mostly T1 archers like skeletons. If you try going up against a HE full stack late game (post-confederation) your big units will get melted too quickly to take advantage of the distraction. Usually I can still win those battles whilst taking significant losses with my faction leader stack of 100% quality units. But they have 6 more armies like that whereas my second and third best stacks are already incorporating a lot of mediocre units in order to not go bankrupt.

[@R3GARnator]

The bird tactic is done in real life. The units are called Wild Weasels.

[@sankhyohalder97]

I don't know if Legend knows this, and I'd be surprised if he didn't: You can select a unit, and instead of right clicking, hold shift, right click at once and *drag* to trace a path for them. It makes setting up fire and forget flanks so much easier. Plus, you can draw long squiggles and zigzags to ensure your units run all over the place, without tedious right clicking!

[@captainfearendur5566]

I knew this but forgot about it, thanks for reminding this will make my Vampire Coast campaigns easier to manouvres my handgunners !

[@sankhyohalder97]

@@captainfearendur5566 Happy to help! The moment I saw that in action, my index fingers danced in relief haha

[@tacticaltaco7481]

Can still be useful to micro arrow dodging especially if you're dab in the middle of arrows from everywhere.

[@chriskerwin3904]

You said the AI doesn't understand horse archers: it doesn't understand skirmishing units period. It uses Lothern sea guards like spear infantry and doesn't understand counter skirmishing outside of sending horses to chase archers.

[@RaxMid]

Great vid, would be useful if you explained things you are doing to fix the overall-map campaign. Saying "dude this is bad" doesn't provide any insight for newer players on why that building is bad where it is or why we should/shouldn't build X , Y, Z. As for low reliability, I found that newer players don't know about the 10 turn timer between breaking a peace treaty/trade agreement and declaring war. You only get the warning message if you declare war from the diplomacy menu, if you declare through the world-map there is no warning.

[@fadope1612]

Your eagle was hit by your tower at 11:15 😂😂

[@Zarastro54]

I feel as though for the first battle, the White Lions should have been put on the wall and the Swordmasters held in reserve. I think it would have made things a little easier.

[@shaokhan2845]

Wow that thumbnail is really badass

[@hmpdahak714]

"Might as well put a fat person in a trolley and push them around" Lmao. *Bogan Suburbs Of Aussie City's: Total War.

[@Epic0201]

1:54 OH REALLY ?!? Coming from you then that's some great Emmental grade cheese then if you're warning us xD

[@lucaswilker6692]

Amazing Battle! In terms of graphics, tatics and difficult, Warhammer is AWESOME! And Legenda too!

[@LordQuode]

The hero we need, but not the one we deserve.

[@ColateCo]

Only Highelf cavalry i hire are ellyrion reavers, and only when i'm fighting skaven. And, their only use is to run down routing Skaven and or to counter there clan rat spawns they use against my archers.

[@pdc4930]

Something says this was an intentional mess

[@srteoh]

Thank you Legend.

[@tomasmb816]

That eagle looks like the mosquito in my room

[@Diego000793]

glad to see some love to warhammer 2

[@SeasonsMad042]

If you're interested in the tournament scene Turin is currently doing a competition. Each stream has 4 players, and it's a best of 3 in the first matches and a best of 5 in the deciding match up.

[@abad-enoughdude._.3919]

That eagle is a damn hero

[@nothingtobeconcernedabout7477]

SYDC should only be a video when there is a really good scenario. I think being very picky it is better than going in chronological order. I think waiting for a good scenario is better than just doing them just for the sake of doing SYDC and much more enjoyable for everyone.

[@inperatieloos]

Can't you create a group of 1 for the eagle and give him orders with the keyboard whilst looking over somewhere else?

[@stevengood5291]

i think they had the right so they could use Vauls Anvil

[@OtterSpace975]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, artillery is the king of TW:W2. Cav was the king of TW:W, but somewhere they let arty get way powerful, and in 2, it rules the battlefield. The Vampire Coast is a very illustration of this concept, as my Queen Bess regularly gets 400+ kills per battle, and my mortars that back it up racking up 100+ each. That's half a 20 unit army killed at 600+ killed with three units. Doesn't work in multiplayer though, as regular players won't clump up like the AI will.

[@zzirSnipzz1]

technically arty is more powerful irl also than cav

[@OtterSpace975]

@@zzirSnipzz1 Well, technically, modern Cav is HMMWVs and LAVs, and they can do way more precision damage. It depends on what your needs are. If you need to soften an enemy position before beginning an attack, if you need to keep enemy heads down while you retreat, if you need to just generally make soft targets die, arty is your best friend. If you need to kill tanks, helicopters, or other specific targets, and you need to make sure they die or retreat, cav would be your best option.

[@Runenschuppe]

I love my high elf archery lines. Let the enemy come and shower them with death. Spears in the front (later replaced with Phoenix Guard), Sea Guard in the second rank, Archers/Sisters in the third and Bolt Throwers in the fourth. Then a life mage to heal the troops back up and one or two flying monsters to hunt enemy archers and war machines.

[@OtterSpace975]

@@Runenschuppe Your lines would melt in front of the arty I have set up. Queen Bess+2x Mortars+2xcannonades would take care of all that cute high elf ranged when it stopped, while the gun line (read:ranged meat shields) would help to take out the Phoenix Guard. The QB is particularly good at taking out artillery machines without killing the unit. By the time you closed in (because I would have ranged advantage with the QB) my 2x Terrorgeist or Deck Droppers would take out whatever fliers you sent out. A while later, my "hold the line" meat shields would be almost dead, but the Sireens and Depth Guard would make sure they didn't die before my healing spells could go off (OC invocation of Nahek). The ranged hero unit would help to take out your lord, and lore of the deeps would wreck your lines. I am still annoyed that none of the Pirates have shields, but I've found a way to stomp high elves without them. Online, I'd have to shorten this list, but so would you... we could always take in 20000 pts and see, though.