Legion Pro 7 vs Legion Pro 7i - Still the Best Gaming Laptop?

[@123Suryasis]

Love the comparison. And I agree with you about the Lenovo's choice of Display. In fact even on last year, lenovo's only 100% sRGB coverage and just around 70% aRGB and DCI-P3 covergage was below the competition of other Premium Gaming Laptops like Asus Rog Strix/Scar series, MSI and Alienware M15's QHD 165/240Hz display, coveraing full 99% DCI-P3. That prevented a lot of people, including me, who do both gaming and a lot of editing work. I have compared it with Alienware m15 R7's QHD 240Hz screen while editing 4K video and the difference can be seen even with untrained eyes. Just having a high brightness doesn't cut it anymore. And the thing is Asus and Aleinware are using these high color gamut QHD panels since 2021.

[@Nunoflashy]

It looks a lot like the Legion 5 Pro, especially the hinge design. While I own a Legion 5 Pro and like the aesthetic, they really dropped the ball on it, the Legion 7 (2021) had one of the best designs for a laptop.

[@xruud24]

You mean 2022?

[@theguard1]

@@xruud24 I had both (own the 2022) and I think the 2021 is definitely more beautiful.

[@ArunKR46]

2022 gen 7 looks the best

[@xruud24]

@@ArunKR46 yeah that’s what I mean. I do think the 2021 model does also look pretty good tho

[@ArunKR46]

@@xruud24 I know.. I was replying to the guy who said 2021 looks better. 😜

[@xruud24]

It may be one of the best performing laptops of the year with their ddr5 6000 support but they really got it wrong with the design and not offering an amd advantage model.

[@victorokita8171]

I am with you on the 6000mhz, that is unique in the competition

[@niebuhr6197]

How can they offer an advantage model when Amd has yet to announce navi32 based mobile gpus?

[@niebuhr6197]

@@victorokita8171 msi?

[@xruud24]

@@niebuhr6197 your right about that, it’s really weird amd didn’t announce a 7700m/7800m/7900m coming. Maybe they don’t even release. But at least they could have made a lower end legion with 7600m.

[@bakagamingcommentary]

with amd admitting they intentional not ship enough product to have customer pay what price market ask for. i go get intel and nvidia combo even if they worse as portable laptop at least there stock.

[@utsavpandey4222]

Glad i bought the Legion 7 2022 Version. it's the most beautiful legion laptop.

[@mohammedomar1870]

The amd advantage?

[@utsavpandey4222]

@@mohammedomar1870 intel with 3070ti 32gb ram 2tb ssd

[@DarkPanda1]

​@@utsavpandey4222why did you chose Intel over amd advantage?

[@utsavpandey4222]

@@DarkPanda1 a little bit powerful than AMD for editing or any CPU based task. But it also means lower battery life.

[@theguard1]

Design-wise, it's a big step backward unfortunately... Also they already offer a 240Hz VRR mini-LED option in other markets! Why isn't it here?

[@victorokita8171]

Wanted to complete your review on a TV screen. I have your variant and so love the RGB lighting as well. 100% on point and on board with you as well, glad you confirmed Lenovo isn't clear on CPU TDP. This is actually my first Lenovo i7-10750h, RTX 2070 Super max q with 144Hz screen, previously had a helios 300 gtx 1660ti core i7 9750h. Love the Lenovo a lot was eager for an upgraded design, a bit of a bummer, but if performance out does most of the competition, I guess still with team Lenovo. The New predator 16 looks much improved from where they were. Wished they adopted lit up IO at the rear panel like the Lenovo legion 7i.

[@darrell9616]

I'm with you Brandon. These are a major step down in design from last year's model. In some respects, it's below the 2021 model. The competition has caught up, finally, with 16:10 screens and Advanced Optimus. Add in the higher quality screen tech, and Lenovo looks to be DOA. Pricing will be critical here, though it's possible to get deals on Asus. A big pass from me.

[@christophherberholz1066]

The fact that the RTX 4070 version comes with a cooling downgrade in the form of only a partial vapor chamber really sucks. Why do they cut costs on such critical components? With the full vapor chamber it would be quieter under load thanks to its lower TGP. I would have hoped for a slightly thicker version of the Legion 7 2021. This thing was simply gorgeous but too thin for my liking. 3-4 mm thicker fans and vapor chamber would have been a safe buy.

[@jlb4685]

After leading the market for the past couple years I just don’t know why they would take such huge steps backwards and make little attempts to move forwards simultaneously. The only thing I can think of is they want to move up their future production to launch in line with other brands instead of launching their new flagships late in the year, therefore they rushed the gen 8 to give them more time to get the gen 9 out in line for February next year? That’s literally the only thing that makes sense.

[@soggycerealz]

Disappointing that the 4070 gets a regular heat pipe ...

[@SMGJohn]

Why? Have you tested and confirmed it will do better with a vapor chamber? Considering the RTX 4070 is heavily TDP limited to begin with?

[@TabalugaDragon]

you can blame Nvidia for that. Because 4070m is actually now a 4060 desktop GPU. And I guess 4060 is too low of a class GPU to put it in a high end laptop. This is also why we can no longer have a desktop **70 class GPU in budget laptops like Legion 5, Asus TUF, Helios 300 and so on.

[@Romash.]

2022 Legion7 has best design of century

[@Cars.]

The 2022 version seems better to me this looks like its a 5 pro...😏

[@TabalugaDragon]

I disagree, I think last year's 5 pro looks better

[@LMPtm]

besides removing rgb for aesthetics, changing the i/o for utility, don't forget they also removed the fingerprint scanner for security. that said, reviewers keep saying that the i/o changed because lenovo users might have preferred more usb A over C, but did users also hate the fingerprint scanner on the legion 7 2022 or even the legion slim 7 series?

[@volcalstone]

Yeah Lenovo went way back too much this year. Also no Window Hello support yet either. At least give us that if they're going to take away the FPS.

[@dorrito]

Confusing. I also like more usb A's (still want a c though) but a fingerprint reader is very high on my list. Very confusing.

[@me-hk4ic]

legions not an option as everyones making 16:10 screens WITH OLED/Mini LED

[@remykamermans5544]

Huge mistake to cut corners and offering less options. I can understand cutting some corners but competition is killing and seem to improve there products instead of cutting corners. Only offering 16 inch options. I feel like offering mini led options and prob at least a 18 inch model as well is the way to go.

[@abematey9786]

In my country (Australia) legion Pro 7i’s with RTX 40s with 13th gen Intel cpu, more RAM and all the while actually cheaper than RTX 30s for some reason hence it made sense to buy the 2023 legion.

[@cutthat4643]

A real step back this year and the side grills are hideous, no mini led option?. They needed to release 14inch this year their product team are out of step

[@schizofennec]

They're releasing a 14 inch in q3

[@henrydrago]

I'm afraid they'll take all these unused features and release a Legion 9i even expensive 💀

[@kadam_official]

Do you think there will be a Legion 9i ? maybe a 18" ? with miniLED display and more RGB?

[@vijaysutherland1562]

Lol I bet fans were really disappointed with the downgrade of unicorn vomit

[@Juan1985g]

Hello, love ur content man. Keep it up! Are u planning to do a full review of this legion pro 7i?

[@SMGJohn]

Yeah I think I will skip the space heater thank you very much, still just an 8 core part, I rather have the 16 core efficient part with no atom cores "glued" to it.

[@GUY-on-Earth]

nope Lenovo loses this year for not having mini LED display, but the Legion Pro 7 isn’t the official Legion 7, that’ll be announced around May and release sometime Jun-Aug, so mini LED could be coming

[@GizmoSlipTech]

Didn't Jarrod say that the Pro 7 and Pro 7i are the only ones coming? Where did you hear that their will be a regular a new Legion 7 in 2023?

[@GUY-on-Earth]

@@GizmoSlipTech yeah I watched that too, but I heard the 4090 mgpu might not be official and saw a short of a Legion Pro 7i with a 4080 which means they could be saving the 4090 for the Legion 7i. The Pro 7i is an updated version of the 5i Pro, confusing right? The design of the 2022 Legion 7i was brand new, there’s no way they would completely abandon that. Plus, I’ve been following closely, they did this last year. The Legion 5i Pro was released sometime in March-April, then in May they announced the Legion 7i. I also find it really hard to believe that Lenovo wouldn’t include miniLED when they’re main competitor is ASUS who made multiple miniLED laptops, not including all the other monitor and laptop manufacturers that made OLED/MiniLED displays. Even more, the Legion 7i Slim was supposed to have miniLED and they probably saved it for this year. EVEN MORE, where is the Legion 7i Slim? Which is exactly why I think we’ll get an announcement in a few months.

[@tryfergoodra552]

@@GUY-on-Earth legion 7 being better than pro 7 ? Lmfao i hope they drop other tho

[@GUY-on-Earth]

@@tryfergoodra552 the pro is just a marketing gimic the legion 7i is the deal. Their marketing thing is basically the reverse of Apple when they sell iPhone vs iPhone Pro

[@Valarmorghulis101]

That manual spinning table 😿

[@bis7331]

1:27 In my opinion, I picked the gen 8 over the gen 7 just because i prefer the more incognito look. 90% of the time I have the rgb off and the laptop looks so ordinary but packs such a punch, its surreal.

[@dotheoso4081]

Hey Brandon! I just invested in a legion 7i with an RTX 3070ti, figured it be a better bang for my buck. Do you think any of these newer models coming out have a significant edge over 2022 model? Thank you in advance and thanks for the content!!

[@GizmoSlipTech]

Newer models should have a significant edge over a 3070 TI, but also have a significant price increase. The 3070 TI was positioned pretty well for price to performance if you got a decent price on it.

[@invoked5114]

It wasn't a better bang for your buck cause the 40er models outperforme the 3070ti by far with frame generation specifically... You should have waited and invested in rtx 4080/90 which is more future proof then a 3070ti which can't even play 4k

[@mhije8388]

@GizmoSlipTech maybe the times has come for fall down for lenovo this year after dominated for years ? first, that design changed i tho its downside for this year. maybe every person have their opinion about RGB right ? but hey, its high end device and it suppose to have one, the person who dont like RGB can turn it off right ? its just few clicks, 2021 lenovo 7 was the best design in legion 7 history. second, the display they dominated soo much on this section for years, look all the reviewers back then all positive feedback from that 500nits 16, but everyone now is improve and catch up but even going to another level with miniLED display wit 1000+ nits, third the weight increase to 2.8kg idk what they thinking, its not include the huge power brick that u have carry arround.

[@hitobatosai]

Best part of this video is Thing from the Adam's Family turning the table.

[@GizmoSlipTech]

Haha

[@Xarx42]

While a mini LED dipslay would be great the laptop is in my eyes more than expensive enough already and I am certain this is the reason why Lenovo downgraded slightly the design as well: to offer a more competitive price. Sure you can get a razer or asus, but then you have to pay for similar components 500 to almost 1000 euro more. Regarding AMD vs Intel: with leaving the benchmarks aside, battery life is not really the strongest argument to get such a laptop. I personally prefer the thunderbolt connection. And sorry, but I am actually happy with less RGB ;P.

[@fred420]

I just replaced my 7i 1660ti with the 7 pro 4090 and couldn't be happier with it. The performance is on point and the build quality is great as usual w/ Lenovo. I'm with you on less RGB. Personally I don't want my laptop to scream gamer, I like the sleek design of Lenovo's legion laptops.

[@doc_verma]

Legion pro 7i or Alienware m16? And somewhere i read, Alienware doesn't support usb c power delivery. Is that true? And for lenovo legion pro 7i, can you send me a link for the usb c power adaptor. Thanks

[@Superpandaseth]

When will it be allowed to publish tests of new laptops in games?

[@killerra]

Around Feb 1st

[@GSVSurgeon]

My goodness, i habe been addicted to your videos. Never seen anypne as passionate as you in this league. Provides accurate info to the best of your ability. It would have been nice of you make a video or advice post about amd ryzen 7945 legion pro 4090 varient. Not much information is available about these amd chips amd the temps are off the charts. Confused between buying the pro 7 or 7i. Any insights,advice much appreciated

[@GizmoSlipTech]

The AMD Legion Pro 7 is one I would still love to test. It wasn't available for most of last year, and then I got distracted with other reviews.

[@GSVSurgeon]

@@GizmoSlipTech keep up this great work. I just used the duo video with 7945hx and 4090 as a reference.2200 dollar is a catch for lenovo 7 pro 4090 ryzen i guess.

[@eric131313]

Cost cut everywhere , guess margins were low

[@mehdishirazi3]

It's a major step down from last year. It's ugly, I prefer the brushed sides not the ugly vents. I also prefer the jack the other way around to make it easier to connect and remove. They removed most the usb c, which sucks. I am glad I bought last years i7 12900 HX model, this is awful. All they needed to do was add the new chips and upgrade the screen. Hell, if they did it right I would have bought a new one and sold the one I got a few months back just for the power gain from dlss 3 on the 4090.

[@ahsoka6807]

Right dude just change the internals for some better cooling , keep the same design , and throw in a mini led screen and Lenovo would still be one of the best.. I cant believe how much they stepped backward. Even if they threw in a mini led screen now i still wouldnt want it considering how far back t=design wise they went.

[@cheekypasta55]

I have a feeling Lenovo is going to be releasing a Legion 9 later this year that is basically what you described. They release this version first for everyone to trash it and it looks terrible in comparison, then everyone’s prayers are answered with the legion 9. But that’s just a guess from me. I too have the 2022 7i, and I was considering selling and going with the 4090 version because of DLSS 3, faster ram, and more future proofing for all the games coming this year. But unless a legion 9 is on the horizon….guess I’m sticking with my current version.

[@mehdishirazi3]

@Q Ravioli You are right, the 7 pro from the build down to the new naming scheme seems like a 5 pro just renamed. I just don't know why they would do this because it will only confuse people. I think their Yoga and Slim lines are named 7 and 9 too.

[@ahsoka6807]

@@cheekypasta55 I think that might be a possibility too

[@crestofhonor2349]

They should of added MiniLED as a screen option. Really sucks because Asus, Razer, Alienware, and Acer are all adding MiniLED to their laptops. Makes a huge difference in HDR content because edge lit displays suck for HDR because they have poor contrast for HDR as well as being very dim making it less impactful.

[@sauloehidalgo9046]

Which laptop is Alienware adding mini-led to? Don’t think I’ve seen that for their 2023 line up

[@goallow1793]

Maybe Legion 9 will be added Mini LED

[@rodgermurphy5721]

Tough crowd...I would LOVE to have that laptop

[@GizmoSlipTech]

Oh yeah, it's still a great laptop. But just probably not the best you can possibly buy any longer.

[@JustAnotherDayToday]

Love the fingers spinning the lazy Susan. 😂

[@Romash.]

Finallyyyy my all time best laptop

[@TheDude50447]

Im still mildly annoyed that Im paying for those useless blinking lights on so many things. It might just be a few €s but it would be so easily avoidable. And who knows how much theyre actually charging for it.

[@tryfergoodra552]

I want a 18" model either of 7 or 5 legion

[@Romash.]

Hi gizmo can u bring legion 7i 2022 3070ti 12800hx model??

[@victorokita8171]

So glad, been waiting for this

[@dirktucker77]

legion pro 7i vs MSI RAIDER GE78HX both 4080-32gb-1T for 2k right now. Msi doesn't have g- sync

[@synstark6858]

Can we have one more video about the Asus Strix Scar 18 but more in dept and more details and everything?

[@GizmoSlipTech]

Have you watched all three scar 16/18 videos I made? I thought I covered everything between those three

[@synstark6858]

@GizmoSlipTech I did like 10 times each haha.. I'm wondering between the MSI GE78, Acer 18 and the Asus 18 so I'm interested in videos of them as much as possible to make the right choice.

[@mredizon00]

I dont care about the RGB but hate the actuale usabble features that were remove but, I guess it can't be helped givend how ridiculous price the RTX gpus are

[@Z-add]

Every reviewer will just glance over thunderbolt port. Looks like thunderbold has become useless.

[@user-mt9eg3ro5p]

AMD побыстрее будут благодаря 80 MВ L2 кэшу

[@joelconolly5574]

Honestly I like the side vents on the new ones but not by much. It's just a preference on the weird hexagonal pattern. On the other hand the back is only subtly bumped on the back compared to the Legion 7i. Too bad it's not as RGB as that model.

[@ragaadin9408]

same with you, I like the new side exhaust vent, but still disappointed they just like abandoned the overall desain.

[@RW1LD]

I'm staying with the 2022 7i ... 2023 7i just feels like going backwards. The ports alone are a downgrade, eithernet cable is facing down and harder to get to. . . Where's the nicer mini LED screen? And "pro"...? Really? "Let's just slap buzzwords on everything and add 10% !"

[@invoked5114]

I got the new one with rtx 4080 and i love it and don't mind the cheaper build since it skill feels kinda premium after all and the performance is way better not to mention frame generation

[@romansm3682]

prefer 7i 2022 model , looks much better rgb lights all around etc visually looks much better than 2023 model

[@BBSlats]

It’s too bad the legion 7 I bought has to be without a doubt the worst purchase I have made in the last 5 years. Premium care is absolutely useless.

[@GizmoSlipTech]

Really? Can you share more details? I had a great experience with premium care. Fixed my windows install problems in like. 15 min phone call with no wait.

[@BBSlats]

3 months of never ending BS with premium care. Battery would only last an hour they ran me through multiple resets, then sent techs to the house, new batt but the computer ran like crap, multiple resets again, they wanted it sent in, 3 wrong shipping boxes sent to me, agreed to use original packaging, I stated I would only do that if I got them back, stole the packaging, sent the computer back from the depot busted after replacing the mother board, 2 more resets, sent the wrong packaging again. I could get into more detail but it’s been 3 months dealing with these jokers and hours of my time. Never again.

[@GizmoSlipTech]

@@BBSlats for general use support, I’d recommend the legion discord. The users there know their stuff better than the average support. But sorry they didn’t help you :/

[@dataskin]

Why there is no review for the Ryzen version?

[@Fabi-tx6vk]

Idk either, everything is just abt the 7i pro. From what ive heard the ryzen offers more fps while the intel is better for heavy wokrloads and editing etc

[@kaushiksarkar6290]

I was waiting for the legion series coz i need one before college...i dont want them anymore...its rog time

[@colluminati2988]

Is it aluminum like last year? Or plastic

[@GizmoSlipTech]

Metal

[@colluminati2988]

@@GizmoSlipTech niceeeee

[@RobertoMeza-co4nw]

Would it be able to push a 4K monitor

[@GizmoSlipTech]

In games, yeah-but with tweaking the settings down in certain games, like DLSS set to balanced in some titles. But most titles should hit 60 FPS in 4k no problem.

[@TheXploadX]

around how much would these cost? im interested but if its too expensive wont be able to afford it

[@maximum8414]

I bet itd be about 4K+ base price

[@killerra]

Base prices are $1999 USD w/ the 4070, $2699 w/ the 4080, I think $3299 w/ 4090.

[@Aditya-sj4ev]

@@maximum8414 what an insane overestimation...

[@maximum8414]

@@Aditya-sj4ev not really that is the price of the L7i 2022 3080 in Australia.

[@eduardopariona430]

En Perú hace una semana compre la versión Ryzen con la 4090 salió $ 2784

[@aventurussy]

good thing they removed some of the rgb looks nasty like that

[@GizmoSlipTech]

How dare you!! 😂

[@LCJammer]

yeah less bling bling and more usb a's. i still have more usb a devices then usb c's so it makes sense to me that they added more.

[@TabalugaDragon]

you do realize you can always turn it off in software right? While those who liked it before can't turn it on now.

[@antosouza9578]

Does anyone knows if the RAM is expandable to 128gb?

[@GizmoSlipTech]

I do not believe so. Only the GT77 with 4x so dimm slots can go to 128 gb this year.

[@antosouza9578]

@@GizmoSlipTech hey thanks for replying 🙏.. do you think I can expand for at least 64gb then? 😬

[@GizmoSlipTech]

Yeah, 64 gb is available in most laptop this year, unless one of the so-dimm slots are soldered to the motherboard. You can check my tear downs to see what pre-existing ram is in each laptop and how to upgrade it

[@antosouza9578]

@@GizmoSlipTech Dude thank you so much for replying and for all the content.. 🙌

[@mauricevandenakker6015]

shame aboiut the screens.. just like alienware

[@gabeo9740]

This is the best laptop at ces

[@MobileDecay]

I will just puke on my current laptop to increase the framerate.

[@pctribe7943]

no vap chamb 4070 😡 even in Legion 7 wtf

[@goallow1793]

Which one is better, 7i or 7?

[@GizmoSlipTech]

If it were my money, I think I’d go Pro 7 for better battery life, but I’d also wait to see benchmarks

[@goallow1793]

@@GizmoSlipTech Oh, when to release the benchmarks, and one more question, will Intel's p and e cores affect the training efficiency of the model and the compilation of java project.

[@Drumtech08]

so basically the difference between the 7 & 7i , its that the first is amd based and the latter intel based?

[@MrAldebarandeTauro]

i understand the legion 7i is better than legion 7 pro is right?

[@mattpunx]

it seems like all added "Pro" versions are just a synonym of "uglier and duller"

[@PatrickA1]

Lenovo is the Toyota of laptops.

[@Marc_YTC]

Finnaly good laptops

[@GizmoSlipTech]

lol

[@joelconolly5574]

@@GizmoSlipTech just another stan.

[@Marc_YTC]

@@GizmoSlipTech haha 😂

[@kevinpaterson6052]

Let’s go Brandon

[@brightoskar9469]

Lol talk about bottom feeders

[@norajuarez8470]

😍😍😍😍😍