Legion Pro 7i Gen 9 Review - Cool, Fast and Quiet!

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Do you think Legion should make any changes for Gen 10?

[@thespoffo5424]

Mini led screen, camm memory and better software with better battery life

[@zechssiguro7476]

Thanks for reviewing a 4080 range laptop! I agree it's more than enough. Can you please do a review of the MSI Raider 18HX 4080 UHD or QHD? I'm looking for an indepth review to see whether the heatpipes in the Raider18 vs vapor chamber in MSI's higher range Titan&Stealth, can manage 4k or Highworkrate or gaming without overheating. I'm hoping they can send you a sample version to test.

[@enyejiapono2413]

For Gen 10, they should definitely bring back the lighting of the ports at the back. The rgb lighting removed is ok. If they can also use mini led screens and incorporate a 16:10 with 18" it will be great

[@OWNORDISOWN]

@@zechssiguro7476 Thanks! Yes, I reviewed that a couple of months ago :)

[@OWNORDISOWN]

@@enyejiapono2413 Yes, that would be my wish too!

[@ManleyReviews]

I have the gen 8 and it's still insane after a better LM repaste. probably the best high performer on the market. with some tuning was able to get 32000 cinebench out of the 13900k

[@OWNORDISOWN]

That is awesome 👍

[@InnocentiusLacrimosa]

That is pretty awesome. With laptops like that I could perhaps get rid of my desktop totally. My 5950X is at around 30k in CB23 so having a laptop topping that :-D Nice stuff.

[@ManleyReviews]

@@InnocentiusLacrimosa i have a 12900k / 4080 desktop that had a drive failure right before a trip, so i worked on the laptop. It's been 6 months since the desktop has been booted. Just never missed it and the laptop did everything i needed the desktop to do so not sure if I'll sell it after a drive swap or upgrade it. Never thought I'd be typing these words

[@InnocentiusLacrimosa]

@@ManleyReviews thank you for that perspective. I am now truly starting to wonder if I could be in that same situation at some point soon (perhaps already on the next upgrade cycle). Laptop cpus are finally getting powerful enough to handle my work tasks also. Laptop GPUs are also almost there (if Nvidia would not cheap on that). Anyhow, you provided some food for thought to me.

[@art_means_artificial]

@@InnocentiusLacrimosa amd is rubbish

[@vincepaperclip7874]

You can get this with a 4080, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD at Lenovo for only $2072 with the current discount... What an absolute steal.

[@art_means_artificial]

no RGB gay club please!

[@plebreton01]

$3000 seems ridiculous to me, considering I purchased the Gen 8 version of this same laptop, also with a 4080, 6 months ago for Less than $2000.

[@TabalugaDragon]

and they want extra for a smaller battery, lol.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Totally agree. The 4090 one should be $3k and the 4080 one no more than $2400

[@alvinamana1459]

You are right it's not worth that. To put that into perspective my Asus rog zephyrus duo 16 with 4080 an and CPU ( which you can literally still play games on honestly at medium setting) it has 2k mini led at 240 hz an a second a second screen at 4k 60hz an I got this for 2300. That's way more worth it compared to this over priced this. You can literally go to basically any other company an get the same specs for several hundred less. Don't get a 4090 though it has same power limits as a 4080 so you don't get to even abuse the power

[@mrrasron1]

Man calm down, that price is in different regions. I paid 2175, 2376 after tax for this exact model two weeks ago. I literally put it side to side with a 2024 rog strix scar 16 and there was a slight difference but the scar will blind you. The screen is actually good and the pro 7i performance was better than the scar for less money.

[@BBRC627]

Yeah, calm down. I just got this with 4080, 32RAM, 2TB storage for 2,200

[@rossdev]

Great review as always thanks. I have the Gen 8 Legion 7i with 4080, I'm definitely passing on Gen 9 as going from 13900HX to 14900HX makes no sense. Last week, your exact model was on sale on the official Lenovo site in my country for only €2300 - an absolute steal! Needless to say it sold out in a couple of hours.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it. I agree, you are set for a few years with your machine. I have no plans to upgrade my laptop with the same specs. What a bargain!

[@crazylfo1]

I like how Legion always keep their laptop design slim and minimalist. This is what MSI laptop should learn....

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Yes indeed. Eluktronucs even better still.

[@TabalugaDragon]

Lenovo be like: "If you want a smaller battery, you'd better pay extra" 🤣 Thanks for the review! also thanks for mentioning "Laptop GPU" in the beginning. I guess they removed a lot of features to make the price completive while still keeping the vapor chamber. The only thing I *really* think they should change is the ugly exhaust vents. Hated them last year, still hate them now.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

LOL, yeah, that extra for a smaller battery was very puzzling! I have never liked the side vent shrouds either. Personally I would like them to do a complete chassis redesign. This one is starting to look a bit dated.

[@siyzerix]

@@OWNORDISOWN I personally love the xps 17's design. Especially the display design. Looks really cool. Wish lenovo would do that kinda display design, but make the base more squared off.

[@Fanwen529]

I got the exact same specs for just 2100$, there was a 870$ discount and with my 15% student discount I got it for around 1000$ total discount 😁😁😁

[@jacobengland1350]

Picked one of these up for $1950 before tax with 1tb ssd instead of 2 as the only difference. Looked like the best bang for the buck in this class, especially for a 14th gen i9 and a 4080.

[@julio6917]

This one is on sale right now! Coming out to about $2530 after taxes, sales and a $100 off coupon from the Lenovo website

[@kasico]

Dear Santa, I've been trying my best this year, all things considered, and I now I know what I want for this Christmas 🤣😂🤣. Nice video Stephen!! I think that the design of Legion laptops is the best out there, great look and feel. And resistant. This laptop should have an Oled panel and not the typical low brightness screen. But definitely love it

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Thanks!

[@mhije8388]

greetings, very good review steve, did they using liquid metal as a stock now ? i bet last year they using ptm phase change thermal paste.

[@saturnotaku]

According to the spec sheet, only the USB-C port on the back can be used to charge the laptop. For certain, Lenovo's proprietary adapter is required to achieve 140W because it uses 20V/7A, which is not part of the PD 3.1 standard. All other Type-C chargers will be limited to 100W.

[@ahmettarikyanik]

wym? is it not possible to charge it via type c? as i know, minimum 75w charger is needed

[@shinvdoom]

very good review. enjoyed the little laugh in the middle "over cocked" lmao

[@JohnWick2077s]

Man thats hella expensive, this model in my country is still at 3.5k. These prices never goes down at all.

[@MrRowe5280]

Do you think its worth buying the extended warranty I bought the 4090 version because I caught i on a great sale at B&H photo? My warranty is about to expire in another month and I have had not issues with it. If you do recommend an extended warranty can you also recommend which one makes the most sense in your own opinion.

[@mrrasron1]

Man that price is in different regions. I paid 2175, 2376 after tax for this exact model two weeks ago. I literally put it side to side with a 2024 rog strix scar 16 and there was a slight difference but the scar will blind you. The screen is actually good and the pro 7i performance was better than the scar for less money.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

That's a huge price difference! Was that direct with Lenovo?

[@mrrasron1]

@@OWNORDISOWN Bestbuy

[@henrikg1388]

Last November I bought the gen 8 (1390HX/RTX4080). It cost roughly $2500 (in EU), but that was with 4 years of premium support. Sure, it was black friday and some student discount, but anyway. I really fail to see what is added in this gen. It is still one of the absolute top gaming laptops. I just don't see the difference. Minor features, but not much. If you ask me. Do you really need to buy a new laptop, then buy gen 8 if it's still available. If you're in no hurry, wait for the next gen and if you're on a budget, buy this when the price drops, otherwise buy next gen. This year has been hardly anything better, but higher prices.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

I agree with you 100 %

[@Alexander_Sannikov]

Why do they make workstation laptops without an air intake on the top panel? In my opinion, it's a must have.

[@enyejiapono2413]

$535 extra for a 4090 is crazy when its only 9% faster. 4080 is good but also quite expensive

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Oh yeah, it is nuts. Complete waste of money. Overclock the 4080 by 5% for free.

[@InnocentiusLacrimosa]

You'd buy that mainly if you need the extra VRAM for some non-gaming usecase. Otherwise its wasted. It is a real shame that Nvidia put desktop 4080 chips into laptops and renamed them 4090s. A real 4090 chip (even when power constrained) would have been great on laptops.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

​@@InnocentiusLacrimosatotally agree. I will be doing a video showing exactly that.

[@siyzerix]

@@InnocentiusLacrimosa The desktop 4080 at 220w performs 95% the same as it does at 320w. Turing and pascal both crammed 200w gpu's in laptops. Are oem's telling us they can't cool an additional 20w 7 years later? Or is nvidia telling us their chips are so low quality they have to reduce tdp's? And a 4090 desktop at 250 to 270w would be ~10% slower than undervolted/stock 4090. People already made their current 4090m's in asus scar 17's use 250w without issue. Nvidia is artificially gimping gpu's

[@4evahodlingdoge226]

@@siyzerix Maybe we will see a big jump in wattage and performance next year for laptops, several oems showed that they can keep their laptops cool this generation so let's see what happens next year.

[@Avacadobeans]

Bought a legion pro 7i gen 8 for $2000, then the gen 9 got a deal for the same price 😭 (both 4080 models)

[@inkaddo]

Where is the Gen 9 down to 2000?

[@bryce2fadeway]

Well did you check the GC?

[@ChillYeti]

What is the difference again? What is new?

[@anthonym_8863]

Great video. I always try to catch your reviews and give you a like when I can. You definitely deserve more subs and likes. That said, this Lenovo definitely seems overpriced. I just picked up a Gen 8 Pro 5 with the Ryzen 7945HX and 4070 for a little over $1500 after tax. It's gonna be a CPU beast for me, which is my main priority, and any gaming on the side will be a bonus. It's a major upgrade from my Legion 5 with the Ryzen 4800H and 1660Ti.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Thanks, really appreciate the support! Yeah, like I said in the summary I think its too expensive. Should be closer to $2400. They need to trim some stuff like Tobii. You have a bargain right there! Awesome CPU!

[@יונהסרוסי-ט5ס]

thanks a lot for your responses 🙏 , still I have one more question , when im putting balanced mode wich is the recommended plan from win , it gaves me the best results, less temp ans less noise and more fps unlike the balance +ai mode or performance mode that's giving me 12c more on temp , fps slightly better but maybe 10-15 more fps only and the fan are noise , how it can be ?

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Are you talking about the balanced mode within windows itself or the balanced mode in the advantage software? I think in my testing I switched the windows power profile to high performance but I don't think it makes a whole lot of difference. Certainly the AI in their software ups the CPU power in game which results in a higher temperature and depending on how your cooling is it may throttle if it goes above 95 degrees. Mine cooled quite well, although there were instances where I saw the CPU go above 95. Also, it is very game dependant so you may see one result in one game and you may get something different in another. I tested the AI in 4 games if I recall and all 4 were faster (and hotter) than standard balanced mode.

[@Re3Ns]

Does this laptop expell hot air through the bottom and not from the side vents? How does this affect when holding it on your lap? Does it get hot?

[@Elderester]

hot air shoots out the back mainly.. the cooling system is great on its own, but highly recommend a stand or whatever you want to use to raise the back end ~2inches. It made a huge 10C difference (71 C to 61 C)... I've got the 4090 version, but same thing

[@Hakeem597]

I have a lenovo with the 2080 super....the thing I love about this laptop is the ability to open the lid all the way, then you mount it in a laptop holder....its almost like having a monitor as a laptop....

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Thats a very good point! Thanks for sharing.

I have one with 7945HX. It's a beast.

[@greebj]

I'd have one ... if they brought it to my country... Not willing to drop AUD$4K on a grey import

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Wow, I bet it is !

[@tradefutureusa6110]

I heard the battery life on THE Lenovo legion 7i pro with AMD 7945HX, is poor. Is it TRUE?

[@hasandeniz6612]

Does it have a kensington lock? thanks in advance, I guess I couldnt see one, supposedly these are "on the go" kind of gaming devices, anyone would not be able to lock it on a table at a cafe or library and , not caring about it being stolen and go for a short wc break, or go buy a cup of coffee ?

[@gregpwnage]

Are you sure that the keyboard deck is made out of aluminium too? A lot of people still mention Gen 9 having a plastic keyboard surface deck.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

It's often hard to tell. Notebookcheck mentions it's an aluminum body www.notebookcheck.com/Lenovo-Legion-7-16-G9-Laptop-im-Test-Gamer-mit-3-2K-Display-HX-CPU-und-uebertakteter-RTX-4070-Laptop.825453.0.html Whilst Lenovo say it has an aluminum D cover (bottom) and plastic A cover (lid). To me this would imply the keyboard deck is also aluminum as it's part of the chassis frame. www.lenovo.com/gb/en/p/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-7-series/lenovo-legion-pro-7i-gen-9-(16-inch-intel)/len101g0034

[@gregpwnage]

@@OWNORDISOWN I just ordered a Legion pro 7i and in the configuration it mentioned the palmrest being PC/ABS, which is a kind of plastic compound?

[@zaibatelzm]

Have the same model, but mine is overheating easily, I dont know how you claim that's fast and quiet and cool

[@jcn268]

20% off for student discounts too ,only bought it for £2,356 instead of £2.9k

[@ThreeFortySeven]

You overpaid bro. I got the 4090 for $2,800 USD after tax. You’re right about the performance difference though. Aside from a little more VRAM, it’s not much better than a mobile 4080. Nice laptop, but the CPU thermals can get uncomfortably high. Great review!

[@AA-yk3bj]

The breakthrough new generation of CPU is coming soon, so it seems it is not a good deal to buy laptop at this time. Do you agree?

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Personally I think it makes sense to buy the last Gen for a $1000 less. Perhaps the Rtx 5000 models that will be released early 2025 will be up to 40% better? What price will they be? It seems to me that pricing is getting out of hand. The 14900HX doesn't bring much extra to the table that's for sure.

[@artbynaition1278]

Still got my legion i bought from yooouuu hella power house

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Awesome 👍

[@thrillhouse4784]

If I game ALOT would this be a wise choice to buy. Sometimes I game ALL day and would have it connected to my monitor but they I'd want to move to my bed and use it that way as well. Just worried that all my gaming would burn it up

[@siyzerix]

Great review stephen. Sad to see the vapor chamber go wasted on the pathetic rtx ''4080''. This laptop can easily handle a 230w 4080 desktop and retain 95% of its performance. The acer helios predator went down to $1600 recently packing a 4080 and i9 13900hx. You can do the smokeless bios method to unlock undervolting (screw acer for blocking that). Its made of metal too. I can't justify spending 2x more for just a better cpu mainly. Lenovo should offer a ryzen hs version. I'd imagine it would last 9 to 10hr if they optimize it. Can you talk about the downgrades and baffeling decisions lenovo has been doing? Worse build on some models, worse designs on others, worse ports/selection, etc.?

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Thanks Eric! Certainly I think they need to freshen up their Legion laptops. They have kept them the same for years. I have two more Lenovo laptops to review.

[@siyzerix]

@@OWNORDISOWN I don't mind the design of some of the older legions. But the problem is the price. If these designs stay the same, then surely the production cost would lower over the years. If that happens then lenovo can constantly reduce the price or keep the price the same which will greatly help offset nvidia's higher gpu prices. They could start offering more OLED options, etc. Because if you see the nitro's, they've stepped up massively. To the point of rivaling some of the older legions in most aspects including build.

[@יונהסרוסי-ט5ס]

by the way , the heat air is going out from the sides ?

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Yes

[@lesliejora9344]

Dear Sir pls one day make a video of cleaning the dust from fan ...

[@iraklimgeladze5223]

you should try Eye traking in racing

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Yes, or a flight simulator.

[@HaloblackopsTenken]

Slightly over cocked 😂 i had to replay that hahaha. Also thanks for showing Ocerwatch and Halo

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Lol, yeah I was pissing myself laughing. You are welcome! Thanks for watching mate 👍

[@zeronine-eightyfour]

I do not consider this an all aluminum build. It's just thin sheets of aluminum folded around a plastic chassis as can be seen in the teardown. Just a very cheaply made laptop for the money. Especially considering the Zephyrus and Blade series.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Yeah, it's not like a Razer that's for sure

[@AUTOSARTID]

watching this video with my 2020 legion 5 gtx 1660 with Ryzen 7 4800H

[@siyzerix]

I mean the 4800h was the last ryzen 7 cpu that could be undervolted. And the 1660ti can still do 1080p at reasonable settings,

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Great! Just shows you don't need to keep buying a new laptop every couple of years 👍

[@siyzerix]

@@OWNORDISOWN Well according to louis rossmann, if you put a desktop gpu in a laptop, it will die in 2 years. Since his legion has a desktop 1660ti, it should've died 2 years ago and is a meme on account of being a gaming laptop. Looks like he defeated the laws of physics stephen.

[@ys-zc2sr]

great video thank you !!!

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Thanks, appreciate it!

[@astrokinng]

Is this better or rog strix scar 16

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Yes, I would say so

[@iraklimgeladze5223]

It's look like GPU was on when you tested battery life.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

If I had more time I would have tested it in iGPU mode too. Perhaps the auto thing wasn't working too well.

[@iraklimgeladze5223]

@@OWNORDISOWN I have gaming laptop and i encounter similar problem. Some app even igpu can handle with easy, it still uses dGPU. Mine at list have light indecator, beside lenovo has light indicator when gpu is used, i think

[@OWNORDISOWN]

​@@iraklimgeladze5223they just have the light on the power button showing the power mode you are in...

[@kamm3021]

Better to wait for RTX 5000 series

[@hasandeniz6612]

quiet? In all other reviews we can hear the fans roaring in cpu and gpu load.. howcome is it quiet?

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Did you not watch the video?? Time frame 17:30 I go through the fan noise at various power settings showing the decibels. I said it was quiet in balanced mode when it just over 40Db. That is not loud at all. The maximum loudness is 52Db so that is perhaps what you are thinking of. Not the loudest I have heard, about average. I have tested machines that can go as loud as 60 Db

[@hasandeniz6612]

@@OWNORDISOWN Sorry I missed the right section where you show the DBs. So in balance mode 40 dB is very good , but how does it perform in r23 for example as compared to boost mode? I love your revies, great review again, thanks!

[@OWNORDISOWN]

​@@hasandeniz6612thanks! In CBR23 in performance mode it will be closer to the 50Db mark... CPU is pulling max watts invariably gets into the 90s...

[@hasandeniz6612]

@@OWNORDISOWN thank you very much, you 're the best!

[@aa-xn5hc]

thanks!

[@jukijunk]

15:25 LMAO

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Lol 🤣

[@SBGAZI]

Is there anyone here that has a Lenovo Legion Pro 7i Gen 9 (2024) / i9-14900HX / RTX 4080 / 32 Go DDR5 / 1 TB SSD / 16” QHD+ 240 Hz / IA Laptop, and has experienced any issues or crashes with it? I'm thinking about buying it. But also there is another option, which is a brand-new Legion 5 Pro with AMD Ryzen 7 7745HX (2024 model) and RTX 4070 8GB. Also, Lenovo Legion Pro 7i Gen 9 (2024) / i9-14900HX / RTX 4080 / 32 Go DDR5 / 1 TB SSD / 16” QHD+ 240 Hz / IA Laptop is another option I have been using desktops my whole life, but since I am moving to Spain to continue my studies, which start on 10/09, I want to buy a laptop that would handle my gaming and also computer engineering. I’m stuck deciding between the two. Sorry for throwing this message, I can't decide (intel CPUs problem is making me go nut)

[@Elderester]

I have the 4090 version and it's been great, but I got it on a massive discount at 2400$ right now its over 3k$.. if I was going to do that, I'd just go for the 9i Pro.. but to your question, I haven't had many crashes in most my games.. Wukong crashes, but I've got everything set to Cine and Max RTX, running at 70-110fps in most areas. No crashes in photo/video editing software. I'm sure CAD and python would run fine as well

[@ahmettarikyanik]

@@Elderester hey man, im gonn a get the same laptop as yours. But before buying a backpack for it, can you tell me the dimensions of the laptop in cm?

[@Elderester]

@@ahmettarikyanik I'm sorry bro i just saw this! I don't know that information, but the Lenovo site should have all of the specs on their website

[@ahmettarikyanik]

@@Elderester no problem at all. I couldn't find about dimensions, it shows only screen size which is 16". Im going to get a backpack so i need to knowhow many centimeters width and length of the laptop

[@Elderester]

@@ahmettarikyanik 36.3cm x 26.2cm x 3cm Hope you find the bag you wanted!

[@sovu9399]

mine is hot, loud and fast

[@Aleww]

Games stuttering?

[@ChillYeti]

Yeahh... i will not pay over 2k for something made of plastic, even the trackpad is made of plastic.

[@AleksandarT10]

Just get Gen 8 for 2k$

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Yep, I do the same with phones. By a previous gen and save $$$

[@thespoffo5424]

Firsttt🎉😂

[@art_means_artificial]

no RGB gay club please!