LEGO Express Passenger Train - Jacobs Bogies MOC 60337 🚄🚃🚃🏹

[@theBoonarmies]

I have made the mistake of watching this at work, and now my afternoon is ruined watching the clock to get home and give this a whorl.

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Haha, I know that feeling!

[@thenetheriteminecartzactnm]

I know this may be rude, but I really HATE JACOBS BOGIES, IT IS SOOOOO ANNOYING HOW PEOPLE KEEP USING THEM, SINGLE BOGIES ARE BETTER CUZ YOU CAN ATLEAST UNCOUPLE THE COACHES IF YOU WANT TO SAY MAKE 2 SHORTER TRAINS LATER TO GO TO 2 SMALLER DESTINATIONS!!@@RobinHoodBricks

[@moontrainz3790]

@@thenetheriteminecartzactnmsave parts bluddy

[@thenetheriteminecartzactnm]

@@moontrainz3790 Saving parts? The normal sprate bogies come in every set! (I kind of like jacob's bogies now but I dn't really like them as they aren't realistic to any of my local trains) near me as they all have the seprate bogies I think.

[@moontrainz3790]

@@thenetheriteminecartzactnm I meant like you can get 2 regular bogies out of it

[@danshewell8746]

So half as many bogies, mean twice as many carriages??

[@TheAmtrakSpartan]

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[@____admin]

Yeah??

[@MaraMash]

Potentially! But then you'd have leftover buffers. Maybe two long stock with Jacobs bogies and one short to use up all the parts.

[@RandJ1996]

Just keep in mind connecting/moving trains becomes VERY difficult. I tried this, but went back. Regardless very nice work Robin

[@BattleshipOrion]

No. For using the same amount of wheels as 2 normal 4 axle cars, you can get 3 units, which are semi-coupled together.

[@eciacud]

Really nice upgrade. I think that if you replaced the new type of wheels with the old type with a metal axle, train would run even quieter and smoother.

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Yes, the new bogies are using the metal axle wheels and I already bought more to replace the rest!

[@WhitedevilEE]

The new ones are queter, indeed, because both wheels are individual it allows them to spin at different speeds when going through turns. reducing scratching noises. you can hear it clearly if your replace a comeplte train.

[@skeletron3606]

the friction is horrible though @@WhitedevilEE

[@owenwoods5148]

Thanks!

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Well, thank you!

[@owenwoods5148]

​@@RobinHoodBricks Set 60337 hasn't been release in Canada yet, but when it does, I'll have to add a few of your Jacobs Bogies design to it, if you don't mind.

[@Slavador2393]

Great idea for amending your train, also practical as you pointed out, less friction equals more power. Thanks for the video Robin.😊

[@Al8lack]

With this latest modification, I can honestly say that I now prefer this train to Horizon Express. Well done Robin!

[@RobinHoodBricks]

High praise indeed!

[@justinamerican8200]

6:32 straightening a 1x1 tile that the build completely conceals. The struggle is real. =)

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Yes, I can't help myself, haha!

[@dennisbomhof]

Jacobs bogies.. every day you learn something new!

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Every day's a school day!

[@enaqleelectric]

You should make the 2 middle cars have a Jacobs bogie aswell, so its like real TGVs and other high Speed train sets

[@RobinHoodBricks]

I'd better get the parts for another one then!

[@aMoGuSsS60]

The tgv doesn’t have double decker carriges

[@IsaakDieleman]

@@aMoGuSsS60 kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2XUfJWDbqh6fq8

[@mikeweston1582]

@@aMoGuSsS60 but the jacobs bogie definitely looks nicer

[@luismiguellopezrosillo9971]

dear robin hood, thank you very much for this video in which you show how to make jacob bogies for train 60337; I also want to thank you for giving the details of the necessary parts, because for a beginner like me it is very necessary, thanks again

[@RobinHoodBricks]

No problem. I like people to be able to build my creations!

[@luismiguellopezrosillo9971]

@@RobinHoodBricks how much I like your answer...

[@AtkataffTheAlpha]

I really like the Jacob's bogies in general. It makes a train more satisfying when it turns

[@bricksgt5382]

Outstanding change on you passenger car train Robin, I think you have inspired me to try that on my trains now. Thank you for the great idea Robin. Keep on bricking it up 👍.

[@Robbie_Hildebrand]

Great video! I just switched the previous passenger train to a Jacobs Bogie setup. It liberates all the expensive pieces like the magnetic couplers and bogey plates for other train projects.

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Thanks so much!

[@dannypipewrench533]

These are quite common on intermodal well cars. The most I have seen connected with just Jacobs bogies is 15. Very interesting.

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Makes a lot of sense if they're all going to the same place!

[@dannypipewrench533]

@@RobinHoodBricks Yep, it sure does. American container trains are basically just moving container yards. Almost all are over 200 cars long, and many go over 300. Many are double stacked part of or all of the way. Many of the trains just do the same coast-to-coast run over and over again. That is probably the most practical use for Jacobs bogies, since the cars always just do the same route. On the idea of a train as a moving container yard, in western Arizona, along State Route 72, there is a BIG intermodal container yard. The thing is, it has no cranes or truck ports. There are just forklifts and rail sidings. Basically, they just pull up trains to hold the containers, and then take or load them as needed. I do not think it is even paved.

[@EGOR4IKTRAINS]

A similar system is on Soviet trams LVS86 .Jacobs bogies are also used in metro trains 81-740, which are operated in the Moscow metro on lines 1 3 and 12 and in the Kazan metro

[@RobinHoodBricks]

They look really good in LEGO form, I must say!

[@EGOR4IKTRAINS]

Do you like Soviet trams?

[@MrPolleyr]

What a clever solution. Love that train.😍

[@danshewell8746]

[@caedmon2behrens186]

I'm so glad this video popped up on my search. It's going to help a lot for my own high speed train moc.

[@countrabricksbuildcraze8916]

Wowzer s great chandge up .yes it seemed to be running a little faster to.an run s more smoother .nice touch to the new train.

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Yes, I think it is too!

[@TealBricksinParadisa]

Well good sir, I'm here to 'express' some thanks for sending me high speed down the track with some inspiration! I had visited the Jacob's Bogie previously but for a completely different objective [streamline & hide the gap with paired concave/convex car ends as well as minifigure walkthrough from car to car]. Yet a solution didn't pan out at that time because was I more focused on a singular pivot point, angles between cars, the cars hugging each other closely at the gap, I was in a rush at it and I didn't have the Book of Chaos to help me out. 😅 I had the intention of circling back and solely implementing the jacob's bogie, but was low priority. Until your video! ..which accelerated the desire to implement them. However...in progress the other day ago....new ideas came up and it all morphed into tackling the 'streamlined and walkthrough' objective again...and I just finished a working concept on a major breakthrough idea! 🤯🤯😍 Elation = off the rails 😂

[@BrooksBricks]

This train definitely is made to use the bogie method. Great idea and practical build! It looks good on there too.

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Yes, it looks great. Especially with the extra boxes underneath!

[@ryangann799]

Very clever build and looks great! Never miss a Robinhood Bricks video

[@RobinHoodBricks]

I should hope not, haha!

[@nathanielnicholson559]

I think I'll do this tonight with a couple of my passenger trains. I just received an order I placed for some delightfully inexpensive magnetic buffer bits too (without the cow-catcher piece or whatever that dreadful plow thing is) lol so I'll be adding even more to my supply cache :) Thank you!

[@RobinHoodBricks]

No problem, enjoy!

[@LordPhobos6502]

Love it!!! I'd like to see jacobs bogies under all cars - I used a technic pin with axle at one end to make them easy to pick up and place, rather than the stabdard grey pin that locks at both ends. It's worth pointing out the real tgv have jacobs bogies for all passenger cars, not alternating cars only - so I did the same when I extended my lego tgv.

[@RobinHoodBricks]

I'd better get the parts for another one then!

[@ZandaHazard]

I’m a bit late to the party but this has just been recommended to me as I’ve been looking at a lot of Lego train videos due to starting to build a small Lego train layout in the loft and this will really help with one of my trains which has 4 carriages and a dummy car. And like you said at the end of your video I’ll have some spare wheels and bogie plates left over which I can use to make some other rolling stock.

[@RobinHoodBricks]

That's the best part. I also have a Trains playlist that might interest you!

[@MayoHosko]

I should probably do Jacobs bogies for more of my rolling stock

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Well it's my first time as well, but it was a good experience. I think I can recommend it!

[@telecomsuk]

Love them, built some for my moc of 4511 ( I only had the cab pieces) I did contemplate exits at the bogie making the truck a bit longer and wider in the middle.

[@xinlu2806]

I think it would look better if you connected all carriages this way. It is like that on the real live tgv as well.

[@Erikve]

This looks simply fantastic; also a very nice thumbnail! Well done!

[@RobinHoodBricks]

It seems to be fairly popular. I'm always wary of a zoomed in thumbnail, but this one is still clear enough what it is!

[@ShinGojira1]

Bro treats his Lego railway like a real railway and I like that

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Much appreciated!

[@ShinGojira1]

@@RobinHoodBricks no problem my fellow Lego builder!

[@LordNuttington]

Very cool, ties in well with the bevelled style of the end of the carriages 👍🏻

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Yes, it looks quite smart now!

[@BulletNoseBetty]

I would put these bogies under all the carriages. They have serious advantages and, as you said in the video, it frees up valuable pieces for future builds.

[@kenrohde6841]

The original Eurostar trains (class 373) have then between the carriages except for the end ones (all the powered bogies are then conventional as the end carriages ones are powered too) centre pair so they can split if needed to evacuate the tunnel (never have in practice though). The AGV is different as that has every other bogie powered and they are all Jacobs bogies between the cars. I think this train is following that design, we just have one end to disguise the battery box in.

[@TimBorg]

wow great idea ... I want to do this too ;-) and upgrade the axels back to the metal types

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Yes, I'll probably change the remaining wheels to old style ones as well!

[@TimBorg]

@@RobinHoodBricks yes I will using higher quality fake-lego the problem with this kit is its made in china clearly as the pieces are lower quality then normal and as low as LEPIN it seems ALL LEGO for sale in Australia is from China

[@patriotiitaliani6218]

wow it's fantastic robin!!!!

[@mitchellbettencourt8306]

A round printed tile would go perfect on those exposed open studs on the new bogey's

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Well I'd need a lot of them whatever I chose!

[@sampykett8799]

Great job

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Cheers!

[@BattleshipOrion]

To correct somethings stated: the cars are semi-coupled depending on there use. North American intermodal (containers & semi-trailers) use the Jacobs bogey and in the event of a derailment, are meant to shear off the car that connects to the parent car (usually either the A, E, D, and C units in 5 unit cars, or A, and C units on 3 unit cars. Edit: fixed various typos

[@RobinHoodBricks]

More train facts!

[@BinkBricks]

Very cool! It's sounds much quieter and even looks smoother on the tracks. The bogies do look a bit different but it's like having a Porsche and then buying an Hyandai it's obviously going to be different but I'll get used to it after a while. These are so much better though! Great video Robin.

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Hopefully the end product is the Porsche!

[@brickartisan]

This is very good and cost effective. Great job!

[@West_Midlands.Trainspotting]

Great video as always robin! Now we’re just waiting for you to make a tilting mechanism lol

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Golly, that'd be difficult!

[@ajokay]

Niiiiiice, very nice! Looks brilliant!

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Much appreciated!

[@konstantinhrabovsky7246]

They(Jacob`s Boogies) a real deal to lowering the usage of train wheels and couplers! And in my case where was an old magnet coupling that can`t hold to each other - jacobs boogie, was a saviour. And their design is by default a way cooler and neat to standard, boring, low-pice "stock"/lego basic boogies design.

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Yes, they're a lot better looking as well as more efficient. Win win!

[@k1ngofpayne991]

Great a Robin video! i need that so much ATM as i just came back from the Hospital.

[@Zabadak]

Great modification. I like it very much 👊

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Great, thanks my friend!

[@tarkelprice6875]

If you look at the ÖBB Railjet trainsets they have jacobs bogies all along, including connecting the control car to the next carriage. I understand for your convenience it might be better not to have them all along but I think it would be really cool to see a fully coupled trainset in LEGO. Edit: They don't have jacobs bogies, but they are permanently coupled.

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Still, I might have to get two more to speed up the rest of the train. One linking the two pairs and one linking the cab car. Thanks!

[@tarkelprice6875]

@@RobinHoodBricks If you want an example of a trainset that actually does use shared bogies, the spanish talgo series uses a modified jacobs bogie on a permanently coupled trainset.

[@CraigH999]

I enjoy trains but I have no Lego train sets. I just don't have the room to put anything but dang it they look like fun!

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Yes they are. Planes, trains and boats all need squeezing into a LEGO city, if possible!

[@perrylim9728]

You could add a third Jacob’s bogie between the two double deck cars

[@wilque6324]

tbh i would add jacobs bogues everywhere for example as it is on the italian AGV

[@RobinHoodBricks]

I'd better get the parts for another one then!

[@guard13007]

It certainly is quieter! :D

[@RobinHoodBricks]

I'm glad it wasn't just me that thought that!

[@audiotron1003]

Yes Robin I want more derailment videos!! Let them there carriages ride them studs!!! 😁😁😁

[@unbekannt9105]

I was never really interested in trains same goes for lego trains but I love your builds and modifications! Always interesting and your trains look amazing! Have a nice day and I wish you the best!

[@RobinHoodBricks]

You too. Thanks so much for that!

[@geraiswaiya2347]

Maybe try Pacer-style 2 x 1 axle per car, or even Talgo style shared 1 x 'virtual' axle bogies?

[@Gumlass1]

This is brilliant!

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Excellent. Glad to hear it!

[@3lifigs]

Hi Robin Hood I am a huge fan when you make a new video I always click on your video and ignore the video I’m watching and also amazing layout I hope I have a Lego layout like that one day!!!!

[@darrynkilpatrick4244]

I'm curious on what you're going to do next to mod your train? Maybe make it a tilting train?

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Wow, that sounds difficult. Has anyone managed that in LEGO? Yikes!

[@darrynkilpatrick4244]

@@RobinHoodBricks I was curious if anyone has before either but figured it would be an interesting challenge.

[@swissbrick_rigo2186]

That is cool. Now i know what i have to do with my 2,70m long 60197😁

[@RobinHoodBricks]

I must measure my cargo train. I'm guessing 4.5m!

[@ImAnubisDude]

I'm definitely going to add this to my train

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Yes, I think it's a no brainer!

[@justaddbricks5527]

Great idea! Love amazing.

[@NodiumAmoko]

the TGV (the french one and the lego one) does not use Jacob's Bogie, but differents Bogies (I don't know if hit has a proper name)

[@RobinHoodBricks]

I didn't realise it was different!

[@ch1lly05]

When are you going to modify the rest of the carriages into double deckers?

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Most of the parts are here, some are not. More hauls!

[@stevesterr2296]

Have you thought about adding the ghost train to your city? Halloween is right around the corner!

[@ceesvolkers6969]

Robin, two things. Do the carriages come in just as much or is that less? And you can also apply this to your freight train. Container wagons also use Jacobs Bogies, see Marklin 47810.

[@RobinHoodBricks]

The carriage spacing is identical. Yes, I could use it for cargo wagons but usually it is a pair of the same type. Mine are mostly totally different. Maybe a few could be used!

[@ceesvolkers6969]

@@RobinHoodBricks Robbin, make 1 set of 2 container cars. With a Jacobs dolly. and place different containers, length and content, on it

[@portalgamer1.]

Love that design! It looks much better than the original

[@puppetguy8726]

If you'd've done this change without telling us I probably wouldn't have noticed, but variation is good. 🙂

[@RobinHoodBricks]

The little extra boxes make all the difference to me, but I agree they'd need pointing out, haha!

[@MaraMash]

I think the difference between the carriages is simply the length - the bogies in the Horizon Express work just fine because the carriages are slightly shorter than those in the passenger train. That being said, I'd say this is a necessary and well-done upgrade. I've tried building a lower-profile bogie in the same style as a typical "dummy motor" but that seems to have too much friction with the technic axles. I'm definitely going to try this and compare the performance, but something tells me this is just going to be better lol.

[@RobinHoodBricks]

This is very smooth indeed so go for it!

[@MaraMash]

@@RobinHoodBricks Not surprisingly, it is definitely much better! Very much appreciate your inspirational and informative videos. But I've run out of regular wheels again! Back to bricklink. Lol

[@dgibbs6956]

Whoa whoa This is so cool I Wish I had enough money

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Since it saves on train wheels you could even use the excess to fund the parts required!

[@Legomad81]

I’m going to build these I think. Looks better I think

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Yeah, I really like them a lot!

[@xanthicdragon6510]

Very cool 😎

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Many thanks!

[@MCDomain23]

Thx for the Inspiration

[@RobinHoodBricks]

You're very welcome!

[@Cyroid_1]

It looks quite good though! Also could you do a city tour every year? Just to make it so we don't need to see outdated content and make sure to add the year number on the title!

[@buddylee6996]

This fantastic Robin! I would of never thought of this, so I'm glad you did a video of it. Do you plan to do this with your patreon train as well? I think if you come up with another passenger train you could name it the Robin Hood Express. I'm definitely going to try this on the new train when I get it. Great video my friend! Keep up the amazing work!

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Will do. Thanks. I'll keep this train unique I think. I already stocked up on train wheels and buffers anyway, haha!

[@360Production.Services]

I was just thinking how this frees up wheels for other projects

[@RobinHoodBricks]

It frees up wheels, buffers, boogie plates and won't come apart. What are you waiting for?!

[@souris_62]

nice video

[@RobinHoodBricks]

I hope it's useful!

[@tillywallenstein]

Are you sure you are an accoutant and not an engineer? I´m impressed as always. Great German pronounciation, too.

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Accountants are cool too. Vielen Dank!

[@Lollyfrench]

How do you make a Jocob's Bogie online please? We cannot find them to buy/ Thanks

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Go to LEGO's Bricks & Pieces service where you can buy individual bricks. The parts list is in the description of the video. Enjoy!

[@brickmaster7795]

Can you make a video about your bogie?

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Is this not a video about the bogie?!

[@brickmaster7795]

I mean, better describe what kind of lego bricks are...

[@Zombiehunter2_0]

I recently modified the "new" Lego Creator small bullet train set with Jacobs bogies, nd I think it looks better!

[@IZAQ_]

"Write that down, write that down!"

[@therailfanman2078]

Great video! Will these bogies work with the 2018 passenger train? Or would I need to modify them?

[@RobinHoodBricks]

I tried this digitally, just for you. Yes, it works perfectly. Same build, same spacing on the 2018 as it had before. Clearly there is more space in the middle, under the base, as a result so you can extend that bit by two studs on each side you modify. It looks really good actually. Enjoy!

[@therailfanman2078]

@@RobinHoodBricks thanks man! I'll have to try it. I might have to substitute a few parts though

[@therailfanman2078]

@@RobinHoodBricks Also, are you gonna get the new cargo train? Do you like it or do you hate it?

[@archsixx2845]

its probably stupid but i have an idea, remember the ghost train that came out many yonks' ago, id love to see you do like a personal rendition of that, to go with your ghostbusters subway! you could even do an ecto one style freight car to combat it on the other line!!!

[@imaginationsquare]

GTV's? Isn't it TGV's, train en grande vitesse?

[@RobinHoodBricks]

I didn't notice misspeaking but it is definitely TGV!

[@brickmaster7795]

Could one buy the newer bogie? If yes, then for how much??

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Buy from me? No. Buy the parts from BrickLink yourself, yes. Probably only a few pounds!

[@brickmaster7795]

Ok, thanks.

[@brickmaster7795]

Could i give you my number? And, for your information, I'm from germany.

[@datguymiller]

Actually irl if it had a Jacobs bogie on one side it's on both beacuse there's no real need to re-arrange trains with TGV's or other HST's

[@RobinHoodBricks]

I'd better get the parts for another one then!

[@datguymiller]

@@RobinHoodBricks especially since they're mostly on electric trains and the engines can't work unless connected to the coaches and the other engine

[@jusjetz]

Why didn’t tender steam engine have this bogie?

[@RobinHoodBricks]

I think because you need a workshop to separate them so it's not very flexible in the less reliable steam age!

[@mezbricks]

Nice upgrade. I wonder why Lego itself doesn't do it.

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Yes, they should!

[@Syntim8]

put all carrages with thys type of bogie together

[@natashawoods2970]

I think im gonna make a bunch of them and make a custom train

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Great plan!

[@BDubs0610]

Can this be used on the old train

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Yes it works on the 60197 fine. The 60051 has the same spacing so it must work there too. You may need to do something different in the gaps created between the bases and the Jacobs bogies!

[@ue_kuler]

Top idea

[@meganandrews2330]

4.9 stars

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Darn it. Just missed the perfect score!

[@Dreadnought_1]

I have an idea see you with your new cargo ship maybe put some police are investigating it Ps oh so maybe make your new passenger train 50% double-decker and 50% single decker

[@toybuns1st558]

If a lego employee sees this lego ok guys we are going to get ride off 4 wheels from each passenger train that are coming for the years to come

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Haha, yes, costs cut!

[@jaxChannel1]

Do you meme by 2 wells

[@RobinHoodBricks]

I don't think I do!

[@tdog-jy1pp]

Definitely looks really good and more like a real bullet passenger train. Is that set worth a buy or would it be better to build more of a moc

[@RobinHoodBricks]

I'd only buy it of you're going to change it a lot like I am. The base set is a bit meh. I don't like the big doors or the front too much but the colour has grown on me!

[@waitthatsgoingtocostyouext5450]

After last weeks dark revelation that your new cargo ship was actually an illegal pirate vessel with a corps inside, I was actually expecting you to say that these new Jacob bogies where actually going to be for a new 'people smuggling' and 'Sex trafficking' train that you will debut this Friday!!🤔. Brilliant video though!!!😃👍

[@RobinHoodBricks]

I considered people smuggling for the ship but decided against it. Don't want it too dark, haha!

[@TimBorg]

I just received this in the mail, on special for only $169 AUD total bargain...

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Woop woop!

[@timberpony1814]

I would like to point out something and I hope I can get people behind me on this. we Lego train fans have always been screaming at Lego to make better trains bigger trains and more and more sets dedicated to being trained. however a lot of our Lego layouts don't respect proper railroad layout etiquette. we don't gauge our tracks properly you yourself have a large number of Minifigs buildings and decorations that are far too close to the railway lines. if we're going to have train sets let's actually treat them like train sets and gauge our tracks properly. so that when Lego comes out with a big monster train which we've been asking for, we're not going to upload a thousand videos saying how it doesn't run on most people's layouts. that's not Legos fault they're making a train as we've described a train to be. it's our job to gauge them properly. it'll be a lot of work and a lot of room to properly gauge all the tracks on a single Lego layout. but it's worth it to prevent the uploading of negativity across all new Lego train sets. I noticed that was one of the biggest problems with the amazing new carriages in the Orient Express set, is that they're so huge they bump into things that are placed way too close to the rails on a turn.

[@RobinHoodBricks]

I prefer my trains at LEGO City scale so I don't buy the other bigger ones. If I wanted realism I'd have a model railway I think, haha!

[@jackieboy2398]

i wos the first person to get the new lego Tran

[@jackieboy2398]

LoL

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Lucky you!

[@adambarton9118]

We all know your just doing this to get more sets of wheels for cargo carts 😆 lol.

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Is it that obvious? Haha!

[@bjarnehelsaa1626]

🤩🚂🇩🇰

[@RobinHoodBricks]

Much appreciated!