LEGO Tumbler Battle - 76023 (old) vs 76240 (new) & 76239 (minifig scale)

[@RacingBrick]

76240 Tumbler available at LEGO & other novelties for November - bit.ly/3EwPHLw

[@AHYL88]

Normally I'd go for the bigger models but the smaller minifigure scaled one exists and it is just fantastic! Yes it's relatively pricey next to other certain similar sets from other themes, but it's significantly more affordable and easier to handle than the larger Tumbler and doesn't need a ton of space! The larger one is obviously going to be more detailed, but I think it's too closely priced to the 1989 Keaton era Batmobile, which is only £/€10 more but it's a lot longer with over 50% more pieces.

[@godzillamaster34]

It’d be so cool if we ever got one where the left tires pop out and you can have a bat-pod.

[@reyjuarez807]

I totally agree. If they did that, I'm totally getting it!

[@TheRandompaint]

At least we got an official Lego batpod set

[@watevr4evr]

it was the front ones, and there's a video on how to make one with the same front tires as the new minifig tumbler

[@lordvampire3032]

@@watevr4evr hey can you link that video?

[@watevr4evr]

@@lordvampire3032 lemme check

[@maxthrust976]

I like the minifig scale one, too bad that Batman doesn’t get the leg printing, but otherwise I don’t see much to complain about.

[@pinklennonade7155]

it’s meant to be a different suit so the lack of leg printing makes sense

[@mphylo2296]

@@pinklennonade7155 I’ve never seen anybody acknowledge this and it’s pretty annoying. One’s the Batman Begins suit and the one with printed legs is the Dark Knight / Rises suit.

[@watevr4evr]

@@mphylo2296 fr, i always get a little irritated, especially cause my favorite batman figure is the black dark knight. The bat emblem is the coolest one hands down and the black look is amazing, wish i had it

[@Osai1234]

scoured the whole city for minifigure tumbler when my local targét was out of stock. saw ppl selling them online for $70. Said hell nah and waited like a week then it was there, immediate coppage. Remember kids, Tumble bat i had to rise!

[@watevr4evr]

@@Osai1234 same, but i kinda succumbed

[@janekmorel]

Got my mini Tumbler today and it's pretty much perfect. Great for display or play, something for all ages of Nolan movie fans. I've seen some people swapping gray pieces with black ones to make it even more screen accurate. If you're thinking about getting the bigger Tumbler, but worry about the size or cost, just get this one.

[@ambition5851]

The smaller one is the choice for me, blends in and goes well in my shelf with my other batman funko pops and Batarang

[@peroifif4438]

Sad batman didnt get leg printing tho daddy

[@proudbrickfoot7483]

I actually enjoy the updated rear tires, looks closer to the actual Tumbler. Nice review though!

[@poykehmusic]

6:40 The *Tumbler* 's stand is _supposed_ to be sloped: Since this Batmobile is kinda leaning forward, putting it on that stand will display it more straight. I'd rather have had a higher stand so the wheels wouldn't touch the ground,and the Batmobile would be in its correct position.

[@pacecinematics]

Thanks for the informative and honest review! Picked up the minifig scale version and I love it! I wish I could get the Dark Knight minifigs without buying a $230 set though…

[@xyz_7]

check out bricklink lmao

[@drewlovelyhell4892]

I bought the small one last week, and I love it! Looks great, it's compact and solid, doesn't come with a bunch of superflous extras, fun to build, and great value! (I paid $62NZD) I had initially dismissed it since the big one was released as well, but after watching your review I'm happy with my choice. It fits in with my other minifig scale vehicles too! 9.5/10

[@devenpapineau6261]

It’s technically 2-3 times larger than minifig scale, but for what it is I don’t think that really detracts from it at the end of the day. Plus it lets me finally accomplish my dream of designing and building my own minifig scale tumbler as I’ve been planning to do for years now.

[@nikitalomakin3205]

@@devenpapineau6261 You gotta take into account that minifigure proportions are not entirely accurate to a real person so it makes sense the vehicles scales may be off. Goodluck on your MOC! :)

[@devenpapineau6261]

@@nikitalomakin3205 no I know that’s true, but they aren’t 2-3 times off real human proportions like this model is to the real tumbler. Again, I still adore this set and actually just bought 2 more bringing my total to 3 right now as I’m going to convert them into police tumbler models. But thanks! 🙏🏻

[@galiathen]

Love your Eastern European accent and style of presentation and background display .....probably gonna binge watch your videos lol keep up the good work 💪

[@dumbest_bear4198]

Thanks for advance! I just bought second hand 76023 for like 75-80 dollars with everything like all parts, minifigs and include the box and i was worried it is bad investition or nice choice, but when i see the differences between them, i am happy now lol, thanks!

[@herrgyula]

Profi összehasonlítás és teszt! Köszönjük!

[@thomasthetankengine8578]

Love this model! Honestly, the mini one would be the best for me, it has some wheels I need, and its a moderate price!

[@cgondo]

Thanks for the detailed comparison. I have the older version and the new mini Tumbler. I was hoping Lego would fix some of the issues from the original but after seeing your detailed review, I will give it a miss. Having the old version motorised, improved the playability a lot (a lot more stable and no flimsy wings), it has become one of my favorite Bat vehicle

[@avic6069]

You should combine your favourite parts of these models, make structural changes, and add steering and suspension and maybe an engine

[@zealot777]

I think there is a vid out there where a builder did add suspension...looking...

[@avic6069]

@@zealot777 but not only suspension, steering, a fake engine, maybe even rc & gearbox

[@zealot777]

@@avic6069 Agree. Combine, add or remove what you like from both Tumblers then modify with suspension and steering. Now that would be an epic Tumbler.

[@Metalizer]

40 euro model is the one for me :P

[@mugglepower]

The tumbler tires are really great for small scale vehicles with live axles if you wanna use the pinned steering hub.

[@70G-MaNBricks]

Great comparison and your criticism I think is spot on. Good job and keep up the good work!!

[@Kryzmatic1]

I will be amazed when they creat a version where the two front tires turn into the Bat Pod...

[@mattalexto]

Great overview, thank you! I have the original and really struggled to see the difference from the promotional materials.

[@RacingBrick]

Check my blog post for pricing & availability: racingbrick.com/2021/10/lego-tumbler-battle-76023-old-vs-76240-new-76239-minifig-scale/

[@realmicahmillard]

Been waiting for somebody to make this video!! Seriously loved this!! 🔥🔥

[@RestlessFisher]

Just wanted to say you're the reason i kinda got back into Lego, I bought the mini Batmobile and it's a blast, my younger self couldnt have stopped playing with it. Now looking forward to buying some sets I used to have as a kid. Thanks. :)

[@iancadwallender9779]

Love this lego set.A great looking build of a classic vehicle.

[@Gzilla313]

Thank you, this comparison was exactly what I was hoping to see

[@jjoke5014]

The new UCS tumbler looks heaps better IMO! The spacing between the front wheels always looked off to me, whilst the new one looks spot on! Completely agree with the closing remarks though, I wouldn't buy the new one if I had the old one... that is, if I could afford the new one at all... I reckon I'll stick with the minifig scale one for now lol. Nice review, thanks.

[@Bot-rk7mp]

Man that looks so cool will be awesome to build!

[@legomattie3295]

Nice detailed review. I just built the 2021 one. There is a reason why the stand is tilted. It is to prevent the tires get worn. However it is better to place the stand on the opposite side and turn the front to the stand. That way none of the tires touch the ground. Still it looks better when you see it from the side, but then 1 wheel still slightly touches the surface.

[@brandonb2076]

I own the 2014 model and have it for sale. I figured I'd jump on the updated version which I do think is better, but I'm still really digging those beefy side panels at the front of the older model.

[@idotic_kid]

2:52 I cannot see the difference (apart from the rear wheels), it seems like they took the old one and put different wheels on the back.

[@miguelibrahim715]

Nice comparaisons, and nice to have seen a video like this ; )

[@max_power8510]

The turn table is not a weird design choice, it's the somewhat correct one. If you pause the video at 6:50 you will see the model is level. The slight inclination in the turn table is to accommodate for the sag the weight of the wheels cause, so the model can be level. I said somewhat correct because the correct turn table would have been flat, but with the inclination on the rotating assembly instead. Hope that helps y'all.

[@RacingBrick]

Well if you want to provide a single position where the model is level then don't make it rotatable :) The problem is not with that specific position, it is with all the others where the model is not in balance.

[@somedude7040]

I have to say that, to me, scale is a BIG thing. I just got the small one earlier today and, especially after watching your review, I'm very happy with my choice. I can't wait to build and play with it!

[@jrompolo5264]

very nice and detailed comparison video!

[@adrianprepelita8683]

I skipped the 2014 Tumbler, so, I'm very glad about the new one, but I'm also disappointed that the steering and suspension are missing (

[@TH3MinniiSavage]

The stand design I believe was on purpose to mimic it jumping in the air to take the RPG the Joker fired out the side of his semi

[@KaderRocks]

Stickers should be on a perforated page in the manual.

[@coffeeinhandproductions3238]

Never got the original though wishing I had as it's not built all that differently, yet costs about a $100 more. Real missed opportunity for the steering/suspension. Minifig scale is definitely the one to go for here as it's greatly improved over previous smaller models.

[@ericbeverly8700]

Honestly, I rather get the mini version; less money, more stable, still comes with two mini-figures, demon Batman face, and requires less space. You don’t need to spend a couple hundred dollars to show you’re a fan of the Tumbler, the mini one will show that just fine. Besides, buying the biggest sets LEGO makes, is not worth it in the long run.

[@stankolodin5586]

Surprisingly in depth.

[@cchangg]

The Tumbler was supposed to be an military armored vehicle that goes thru walls like a tank. This one basically become part of the wall when go head-first into one.......

[@DTS214]

Nice review, I’ll definitely be getting the mini Tumbler at some point.

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

I missed out on the 2008 Tumbler and the 2014 one. But I'm very tempted to pick up the new one to go with my 89 Batmobile

[@viktorn4975]

Kinda wish minfigure scale one came with a Lego Ra's Al Ghul or leg printing.

[@alienfac32]

i like this verhicle but i dislike all the studs they keep. could have smoothed it out alot and made it nicer in my opinion.

[@young.vader_66]

A few days ago I purchased the old Batman 76023 Tumbler set, before choosing I made some observations while also watching your video. In the end I bought the old one, I liked the box a lot! And the minifigures such as the joker one are more complete with the coat, I find it more beautiful, Batman is less refined but it still fits. The new version (76240) is also beautiful but the differences are minimal apart from these things...

[@mxes5938]

my main point of discontent is with all the visible studs on the surface wich doesn't fit the slick original. missed opportunity for the rereleased version

[@JeddtheJedi]

10:54 oh hey I took that photo in 2008 on the Warner Bros Studio Tour in Hollywood.

[@wjian333]

thanks for the detailed comparison review & honest opinion. i was hopping it will have a revised build with a more sturdy structure and im going to buy this eventhough i already have the first one. but too bad lego doesn't change much on the design or fixed the flaws that first version had.

[@The6Guest]

Wow, you get all the cool new sets! I need to get a Lego KZbin channel going. 😅

[@masteryuda7444]

I love the 2014 model more but the new one is also good

[@DEricKesler]

I, too, own both tumblers. I absolutely agree with this review.

[@roelhendrickx4302]

I guess you will have to make an update of this video, with the release of the 76303 set. Now there are not only two UCS Tumblers, but also two minifigure-sized ones, with some noticeable differences between them. Seeing the new one, makes us realize that the back wheels on the 76239 set are a bit out of proportion (they are as big as a person, which is not movie-accurate, but it IS and remains cool and threatening...). As for movie accuracy, some aspects are improved (like the proportions), but some are definitely not (like the horizontal spoiler/wings on the back of the vehicle). I am curious what you think.

[@i_am_lsg]

Спасибо за обзор! Как всегда все информативно, сжато и интересно !!

[@Ice-Qube]

Hey @RacingBrick do you own the 9398 4x4 Crawler from 2012? (or any other Set with the same Wheels?) because I think the Wheels on that Set more closely resemble the Original Tumbler you showed. It would be cool if you could try and put them on this Set since the wheel hub is the same and I think the spacing could actually work out to be the same. You said in you Video (4:46) that the spacers are the same but just visually there are 3 of the black connector pieces in between the gray round Hubs and with them there I think it could work.

[@SilverSpoonRiche]

I agree. I like the smaller one. But then again most of my Lego models are 6 to 8stud and all of them minifig scale.

[@MajorFusion]

I’m not entirely sure why they released virtually the same model (however I’m glad they did, I didn’t get a chance to grab the first). I also think they missed some opportunities with this, however, it’s a UCS model meant to be built, and displayed, so some of the stability and playability criticisms you gave are a little misplaced.

[@RacingBrick]

Let's assume it's strictly for display only, why does it have an interior then? I guess because it's a feature you can observe! Then steering and suspension could be something similar :) And I don't think stability is a "nice to have" feature with a LEGO set. If you cannot pick up the toughest Batmobile ever without loosing a part then something is wrong.

[@Johan92Johansson]

I think you put the large plate on the stand on the wrong side. I guess the rear wheels should be turnd towards the high end of the stand as the tumbler is back heavy. and then the plaque or what the display info is called get's coverd by the car.

[@drewlovelyhell4892]

Yeah, I also thought you had it back to front, since the rear wheels should be held up slightly higher than the front ones.

[@videogameranime]

Needed steering, suspension, and the fins should be connected to move them all by turning something or a lever.

[@operatorstryker9865]

The minifig scale tumbler is the best choice for me lol.Small,can bring it to anywhere u want,cheap,still looks cool.

[@Posanubon]

6:41 the rear limb has to 1 hole closer to the front one.

[@NoConsistency]

Don't forget the tan one from the dark night rises set

[@Nathan-is7li]

I personally like the minifig scale one best

[@viniciusgoncalves2642]

Lego fans when Lego does not include a functioning combustion motor, 4×4 suspension, anti ballistic window panels and a functioning computerized system: too bad Lego, missed opportunity

[@DH_Artist]

I really didn’t see the need for another modular tumbler, especially with it Being 90% the same as the old one

[@michalsnaiberg2734]

It is there for people (like me) who didn't get the first release.

[@toby182]

I definitely missed out on the mini one

[@largewallofbeans9812]

Future video idea: All batmobiles compared

[@shawns7150]

Very good video which covered the key things about the new Batmobile Tumbler set. I got one this week but didn't know about the first veresion released in 2014 until later on when I read some other reviews. It's sad to see that there aren't that many improvements from the first version. Completely agree with the key problems highlighted for the new big brother. There isn't much of playability with this model and it's better used as a display/collection. Personally that's ok with me but I do wish the top can be opened like the littlbe brother instead of having to be removed in order to access/view the interior. The design of the stand just doesn't make any sense. You cannot freely rorate the vehilce on the stand because of the contacting part is not high enough to raise the back end of the vehicle off the surface is just sad. I do really like the rear wheels on the new model as they look very intimidating which matches well with the overall theme of the Tumbler.

[@user-rs1990]

For starters, the Tumbler debuted in Batman Begins (2005).

[@nicolassilvagni7909]

Someone need to make a technic only version to share on rebrickable ! I never thought about buying one, but my little girl is crazy about car and the small one would actually be a good addition alongside the speed champion !

[@nokialover31]

I like the mini one! My aim is to build a diorama around it!

[@beerwine1000]

Thought theres a minifigs scale version before too ..

[@dankmemer2774]

For $40, it’s hard to beat the minifig scale one. It’s durable, better scaled, and captures a reasonable amount of detail for the size.

[@lokirules520]

I believe the stand for the new one is supposed to be replicating it jumping or doing a stunt

[@BricksAndBuild]

I personally not own the previous tumbler yet. But im not keen to get the new version soon. However, the small one is what i gonna get first for now because of the price, playability , and the design which i think its very cool

[@haryadisuryonoto1118]

I love the minifig scale more.

[@voidlazar9912]

I have the new big one and am thinking of getting the minifig one so I can have scarecrow

[@jakedogan4875]

What's disappointing is they didn't add a bat pod, idc if it's hard to make just do it

[@pvl282]

The big ones are for shelf only and require much space, the small one is nice.

[@iRacerJared]

Do like the front on the new one. Maybe be able to replace it on the original

[@Armaron06]

I think you just got unlucky with the transparent "HUD" sticker. mine was thankfully flat.

[@brandonharris7516]

I have both of the ones today

[@di7125rr]

I had the same issue with the stand, however, I used the higher side of the angle to prior up the rear of the tumbler and now the tires don’t touch the table and it rotates better on the stand. Not sure that this was the way it was intended to be used since it covers the plaque altogether though

[@BreaksBee]

There is only 3 ? i thought there was more.. welp thanks for this awesome review

[@demonslayer9772]

So many other Batmobiles and Lego had to waste it on another Tumbler. Arkham Knight Batmobile would be a dream. Heck, even the 1960 Batmobile is a much better choice. I completely agree a missed opportunity on lack of steering function and suspension on this tumbler redesign. A slightly revised Batpod release would also make sense based on the demand but maybe Lego wants to protect Collectors.

[@242rideausecurity6]

MASH UP THE TWO SETS!! To get the best over all details!! please make video if so ;D

[@matthewbray764]

I think the rear wheels should have a similar profile to the buggy wheels but would need to be bigger. The stand works on the old one as well (built from pictures) I do have the rear wheels touching my shelf which does not concern me. I would like to add steering to the orginal but I don't want to pay the £20 for it as it includes RC and other features that I don't want (unless someone can direct me to ways to include steering). It is dissapointing that the new one does not include the headlights located behind the side windows (watch it closely and you will notice there are 3 rows of head lights ultimately just need 4 more parts).

[@kennethbeer206]

I would have preferred a UCS 1960's Batmobile, or the Batwing (Batpod?) from TDKR.

[@drewlovelyhell4892]

Oh, you mean "The Bat". (Inspired name.. 😒) The hovercraft thing. That would be cool. Might have to go with a scale somewhere between the big and small Tumblers to make it feasible. A '66 Batmobile would be frickin sweet too..

[@stephanberger3476]

Already in doubt, but I'll skip it now. Thanks for this honest comparison.

[@stephanberger3476]

UPDATE: I got it anyway :p

[@patrickdaly5988]

Isn't the stand replicating a "jumping" tumbler?

[@RacingBrick]

Probably... or a falling one ;)

[@owene2530]

I'm surprised that this is just basically a re release of the same set. Like the core build is basically the exact same

[@perkis12]

Maybe because thats what its meant to be bro

[@owene2530]

@@perkis12 well I don't think they made that very clear. I realize that its intentional, and not some sort of scheme that they hope we don't notice. Its just they never tried to make a point that it was for the people who missed the old one, and they made it seem more like a new and improved one meant to make the old one obsolete.

[@madmerlinsart]

Not the biggest fan of the Dark Knight Trilogy, but that Minifig Tumbler is just too darn cute to not get. Will look nice to the £30 Batmobile that came out a few years ago with Batman and (in my opinion) a very Jack Nicholson inspired Joker.

[@jaakvdbergh24]

I bought mine yesterday and the biggest difference was the price. It was €550 cheaper than the old model. So for me it doesn’t matter if there is a big difference between old and new. 😅

[@TonyMontanaDS]

Why remake the same set only 7 years later? Lego should start making updated versions of their 80s and 90s sets instead.

[@Alpix12]

I bought the small one for my son. Not sure if the big one finds his way in my office.

[@type_one]

i like the old one better/front wheel arch/rear tires - the new one only the fron window was the improvement

[@edmundlim1796]

Just wondering where you got that iconic tee shirt!!

[@RacingBrick]

Huh, bought it a looong time ago, maybe at Tesco :)

[@ochjoo77]

the new one definitely is last on my list, the minifig version is by far the best, how can they match it well in the small scale but miss the ball on the big ones? The narrower front on the new one looks quite ugly compared to the old model, so do the rear tires.

[@Theleaver5088]

Another missed opportunity for me is the batpod

[@sirgnavic]

I have the old one and am very disappointed that the new one is a rehash of the first, especially considering how great the 1989 Batmobile looks. In my opinion, there are a lot of flaws in both versions of the USC Tumbler with respect to screen accuracy. I have modified my Tumbler a lot to make it more like the movie version, though I'm still not 100% satisfied. I feel like the designer based the USC Tumbler off of a slightly less accurate toy model of the Tumbler rather than off of the real thing. For example, the side windows are supposed to be single panes instead of being broken into two panes by a strut. The large triangular hollows on the sides are closer to where they are supposed to be on the new version, but the shaping of the windshield "eyes" are still off, and I think that the paneling on the outsides of the "eyes" could have been done better, like by adding a 45-degree surface to transition to the side surfaces. I still don't like the cheese wedge pieces used on these panels and have removed them from my own Tumbler. In addition, I think that the model looks rather ugly when you look at it directly from the side because the edges are horizontal instead of sloping forward, which makes the real Tumbler look sleek. It's nice, though, that the back tires are bigger in the new version, but it also seems that there is now an unsightly gap between the tires of the doubled tires. I do like that you can angle the large rear spoilers now, and I think I'll incorporate that design into my own Tumbler.