Lekker Switches Updated? | Wooting L45 Lekker Switch Review.

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0:00 Review
3:50 Sound Test No Deskmat
4:13 Sound Test With Deskmat
4:38 Recap

[@BigBrainAFK]

Just a few quick notes: We did have springs separate yes but they were technically "L50" springs. So the L45 switches are lighter than the spring packs we offered. Theres no 10 pack but a 12pack. The feeling you describe of it feeling like 40 could be the case for singular switches but the deviation (as far as I am aware) is +- 5gf so the average (which is what the graphs show) comes out to 45gf end force. Also to note is that the force you feel in the beginning is around 30gf (for L45). The number of gf does not reflect any actuation force as we can only specify a start and end due to the actuation point being fully customisable.

[@mellowistaken]

Awesome video! I think I’ll pick these up. Ever since they announced them I was hoping they would be nothing but an improvement from the L60s. Not necessarily having to hand lube is also a huge plus

[@d6go56]

i’ve been looking for this thanks bro

[@YourCloudyyy]

no problem.

[@aurajohnny]

in my experience with my wooting60, the springs feel so heavy when you first start to press down on a key. like if i had to compare it to a mousepad, it feels like super high static friction and low dynamic friction. i guess they're kinda like slow curved springs? do the L45s still feel like that?

[@YourCloudyyy]

i get what you are saying although i had the same thoughts wooting told me they are just standard linear springs. they do feel like that just lighter, id suggest buying them

[@MrFurryface]

great vid! im not too worried about sound thou. I usually wear headphones when i game.

[@alpha_btw7396]

Man, it has been quite a while since i last watched one of ur videos, but its great seeing ur channel grow! Keep it up!

[@YourCloudyyy]

thank you bro!

[@montagetm]

Do all the features like rapid trigger, analog etc work with these switches? Im not good with keyboards so idk if this is a dumb question

[@YourCloudyyy]

yes they do i should have mentioned that.

[@binodynamic]

I recently ordered the wooting 60he. I was told by a friend that received one last week that it feels lighter than cherry Mx browns, which are the only switches I’ve tried. Since the recent stock L60 batches are more lubed you think it’ll feel similar to Mx browns? Or if I want something just as light or lighter I should add the L45 to my order?

[@YourCloudyyy]

mx browns have a tactile bump, so the feel will indeed be different. But I would say that L60 will be closer than L45.

[@pennygadget]

I fall into the enthusiast who loves heavy springs/tactiles and I'm unclear about spring swapping the lekker switches. Is it the casing that is the key? I know the previous flaretech switches you could easily spring swap. I just can't seem to find much info about using non-lekker springs in the lekker switch cases or my searches are just unfruitful. Could you shed any light?

[@YourCloudyyy]

aha, so you cannot use non lekker springs because of the magnets. you need non magnetic springs which are not used on standard mech switches. wooting will soon have springs ranging from 30g to 80g available.

[@duStyyFPS]

Is the 12 Pack enough for gaming? Or will it throw off my typing because of the mixed weights. I only got fatigue from pressing wasd sometimes and now wondering if I should replace all switches or which 12 keys I should replace with a lighter switch

[@YourCloudyyy]

yes i do think it might throw it off, you should replace them all

[@binodynamic]

I’m actually going to just replace wasd for mine as I’m in the same boat. My fingers only fatigue when using those keys.

[@dude9237]

Would the L45 or L60 feel more similar to the spring weight of something like a cherry Mx red or a cherry Mx silver spring weight?

[@YourCloudyyy]

id say they are almost identical to a gateron red

[@swarduski6084]

Would this be closer to mx cherry blue switches i have this keyboard with 60cn switches i might get these i think i have hand fatigue a lil bit when playing long hours

[@YourCloudyyy]

these will be more like mx reds

[@sempi_loud2659]

What you all on about, i know most of you havent spring swapped and would benefit from the lighter stock springs on the L45's

[@JustShootToKill]

Just wondering would this L45 be better than Gateron KS-20 whites?

[@YourCloudyyy]

the only difference should be spring weight

[@tommygun6866]

Currently running gateron clears and love that I have zero fatigue in my fingers. Do you think that the L45s might be a bit too heavy for me then?

[@YourCloudyyy]

they are a little bit heavier but you should be fine

[@21ninpo]

is there any sound differences between the 45s and 60s? i really like that deep sound the lekker's have

[@YourCloudyyy]

some people say there is but I personally do not believe there is. I believe that people think there is a difference because they are lighter and you bottom out considerably more which leads to more noise.

[@x93Vanquish]

My concern is that I’m not going wanting to re lube the switches so is buying this keyboard still worth it? I currently have razer huntsman v2 TKL

[@YourCloudyyy]

yes it is worth it, you dont need to relube

[@x93Vanquish]

@@YourCloudyyy awesome thanks for the reply appreciate it

[@YourCloudyyy]

@@x93Vanquish no problem! If you need anymore help lmk

[@ershaudnaderi2291]

I just received both my 70 pack of L45 and L60. Are the L60s still not lubed well. Also which one would be better for playing games like Valorant, Apex, and CoD

[@YourCloudyyy]

weight is all preference, whatever you prefer.

[@killed__]

Is there a way to put custom springs ive been looking and im not sure if the standard springs would work because i want to make the lightest acuation possible

[@YourCloudyyy]

there is not unless you get the ones from the site

[@killed__]

@@YourCloudyyy are you taking about springs or switchs

[@YourCloudyyy]

the springs need to be non magnetic because of the sensors. You cannot use any other springs.@@killed__

[@everything-bagel]

Do the L45s feel as light as the Apex Pro Omipoint 2.0 switches? The Omni's are rated at 40cN and feel really light. Wondering how they compare to the L45's.

[@YourCloudyyy]

yes, they feel about the same

[@everything-bagel]

@@YourCloudyyy It might be time for me to switch off the Apex then. The light Omnipoint switches are good for effortless spamming, but the software is terrible and the keyboard bugs out despite updating the firmware. Thanks for the info!

[@YourCloudyyy]

def recc the wooting over apex pro, well worth it..and you support a great company, really good people.@@everything-bagel

[@ChessBoxin]

Are the l45s similar to a gateron red feeling? Ive been on the l60s for a year now and I went back to my gateron reds on my anne pro 2 and felt like those were a lot better overall. I'll probly just make the jump to Lekker45s just to try them out regardless but any opinions appreciated. Thanks for the video.

[@YourCloudyyy]

yes they feel very similar to that of a gateron red

[@ethanthe3157]

quick question can you customize the actuation if you only buy the switches or is it already set to the lowest amount

[@YourCloudyyy]

Yes you can customize

[@ethanthe3157]

@@YourCloudyyy wait so if i use a different board i can still customize it?

[@YourCloudyyy]

@@ethanthe3157 you can only use these on the wooting

[@ethanthe3157]

@@YourCloudyyy alr tysm

[@liamoneal3895]

W Preciate this…. How close would you compare them to apex pro switches?

[@YourCloudyyy]

i would say they are very similar at this weighting.

[@markus301]

Sorry i dont understand english, what is better for you? Lekker 45 or 60 and why?

[@YourCloudyyy]

45. Much lighter

[@ericpiceno1381]

Can you put these on other key boards? Maybe black widow v4?

[@TvojjKott]

No

[@kiljonlenin]

do these switches still have rapid trigger?

[@YourCloudyyy]

yes

[@TwitchVanishlol]

Can you put these in the drunkdeer a75 and see if they work

[@YourCloudyyy]

they do not

[@jece-]

so these come pre-lubed right?

[@YourCloudyyy]

they do!

[@TvojjKott]

If I will buy L45 switches from wooting website, will they be prelubed?

[@YourCloudyyy]

yes

[@leeblanchard306]

sorry i was a little confused do these switches come already lubed?

[@YourCloudyyy]

yes

[@dawidpapiez]

@@YourCloudyyyl60 too??

[@YourCloudyyy]

@@dawidpapiez yes

[@FistFN]

Can the key switch be removed without using a special tool?🤔

[@YourCloudyyy]

it can but i would recc just buying a cheap switch remover

[@FistFN]

@@YourCloudyyy thank you for your reply. I bought a $3 switch remover😎

[@YourCloudyyy]

@@FistFN you are welcome

[@ChampagneZanitey]

Are these compatible with apex pro tkl?

[@YourCloudyyy]

no

[@TheHextor07]

Can i use this switches on my rog azoth?

[@YourCloudyyy]

no

[@1600luv]

Are the springs inside the L45 switches lighter than the L50 springs?

[@YourCloudyyy]

I do not 100% know but they are close enough to where it shouldnt really matter

[@1600luv]

@@YourCloudyyy ahh I see, thank you! Do you know if Wooting fixed that stuttering issue when pressing a key on the side a bit? I’m planning on buying the 60HE but was wondering if they ever got to that issue yet.

[@YourCloudyyy]

@@1600luv yes, so the backstory behind that issue is actually pretty simple. Because the switches are hall effect and use magnets and sensors; if you touch a key before your pc turns on or right after plugging it in then it will uncalibrate the sensors and you'll just have to unplug it and plug it back in and everything will be perfect.

[@1600luv]

@@YourCloudyyy Awesome, looks like I’ll be ordering a wooting 60HE with some L45 switches. Thank you! :)

[@albriziosebastian1598]

@@1600luv Hi! 12 or 70 pcs switches did you buy? I would only change the WASD keys. Are you allowed?

[@Maqxy]

are the l45 also have a 0.1mm ?

[@YourCloudyyy]

yes

[@sxcret_eli]

Do they have 0.1 mm and rapid triggee

[@YourCloudyyy]

yes

[@nomecognome5050]

They aren't smoother: I have L60 and L45 switches lubed with g205, both using the same 45g spring. When I press on the switches really really slowly and apply sideway force (this makes the plastic rail touch more) The L45 gives more resistance and "stutters" it's way down, the L60 I can easily press it down smoothly. This is also very noticeable while playing osu and makes streaming harder. For me the L45 was an useless disappointing purchase since I hand lube switches anyway, the 45g spring is exactly the same as the 50g I already purchased and they are LESS smooth.

[@YourCloudyyy]

i dont think you quite understand the video, we are talking about stock here. if your switch feels weird on the way down you most likely overlubed it. Wooting updated how they lube their stock switches so thats what this video is about.

[@nomecognome5050]

@@YourCloudyyy sure they add more of factory lube, awesome. I can add g205 myself which is way better than the stock lube. But at the same time they changed the plastic tolerances or changed something in the plastic cause it's simply not as smooth as L60, both stock and hand lubed, actually g205 lube improves it a bit. No it's impossible to overlube unless you're stupid and drench it in lube, simply the plastic has more friction and doesn't go down smootly when pressing sideways

[@YourCloudyyy]

@@nomecognome5050 youre still missing the point of this video and why people watched it, they also did not change anything to make the l45 different, you must have a bad batch if yours is less smooth lol .

[@nomecognome5050]

@@AquilaeYT Mine is not a reason not to buy wooting, I'm not saying the new switches are bad -_- You will hardly find any other switch being that smooth, maybe just the tangerines but those are not HE, I'm just saying it's not worth buying the new switches if you already have the old L60 hand lubed and spring swapped cause it's basically the same switch. I think usage did probably make my old switches self lubricate so they are a bit more smooth, the new ones will probably become as smooth after some months of usage

[@YourCloudyyy]

@@AquilaeYT well no, its hard to judge someones experience if they have previously modded it. you cant compare a hand lubed switch to a switch that has been machine lubed, if his switches were scratchy out of the box that could be a qc thing, if its after he lubed it clearly wasnt the switches, the literal only difference between the L45 and L60 is the spring weight and their new lubing technique...there is no structural difference like he was hinting at. It was not being rude its talking about facts

[@Triviafn]

Are the switches 0.1mm ?

[@YourCloudyyy]

yes

[@adumbledoor394]

I was originally waiting for my uwuting to test the L45 before buying them for my 60he. But the fact that they are smoother and properly pre-lubed changed my mind, and I bought them.

[@YourCloudyyy]

theyre so good.

[@StasRyadinsky]

Thank you for your input/feedback on the switches. However I can't help but notice your typing comparison is quite bad as one had the keyboard directly on the table and the other one was on the mouse/desk pad XD

[@YourCloudyyy]

yes, that is on purpose. The sound tests are only displaying the L45 switches, both sound tests are only the L45 switches.

[@StasRyadinsky]

@@YourCloudyyy ahh understood. I thought you were comparing the L45 to L60 and by accident one typing test was done on a desk without the mouse/desk pad

[@YourCloudyyy]

@@StasRyadinsky ah no sorry the difference between the 2 switches in terms of sound is so small lol i was just trying to show off the overall wooting sound. I should have clarified!

[@StasRyadinsky]

@@YourCloudyyy it's all good my man. Am thinking about getting the two HE and it comes with the L60 so was wondering if the L45 swap was viable but I guess I'll just lube the L60 myself. Hopefully in doing so will get smoother yet heavier feel than the L45.

[@YourCloudyyy]

@@StasRyadinsky i do actually hope they make L80s...

[@Maqxy]

are the l45 same fast as the l60

[@YourCloudyyy]

yes

[@Maqxy]

@@YourCloudyyy u sure?

[@YourCloudyyy]

yes@@Maqxy

[@Maqxy]

@@YourCloudyyy ok, thxysm

[@YourCloudyyy]

I HAVE NO IDEA WHY THE VIDEO DID WHAT IT DID MY BAD

[@uli4106]

Liked and subbed

[@YourCloudyyy]

uli thank you

[@wilihey1425]

i spilled a nice cold refreshing glass of coke and vodka all over my wooting keyboard so i'm gonna buy these as switch replacement, none of them died and everything is cleaned and dried but the lube and stabilizers are ultra dry now, luckily it was diet or it would have completely ruined the keyboard

[@YourCloudyyy]

wow youre lucky as hell it survived...

[@wilihey1425]

@@YourCloudyyy its happened 5 times in total on plenty different keyboards, i've perfected my craft over the years

[@adami775]

Is the apex pro or this faster to spam press

[@YourCloudyyy]

this

[@adami775]

@YourCloudyyy read another comment that was saying is heavier at the start of press is it heavier than apex pro reason I'm asking is my fingers are really weak from injury temporarily

[@YourCloudyyy]

@@adami775 mmm id say they are close to the og apex pro switches in weighting, sort of like mx reds if you have any experience with those

[@adami775]

@YourCloudyyy the only keyboard I have is a red huntsmani mini, so is it lighter than that, and also, is it lighter than the apex 2023 also really liking the content and surprised how u manage to get a lot of stuff really early

[@YourCloudyyy]

yes it is lighter than the huntsman mini im sorry for the late response!!!

[@laykaban]

4 minutes of straight YAPPING

[@YourCloudyyy]

Real asf

[@MrNikovec]

i will just get wooting 80he remove the lekker and slap on some gazzew boba u4t

[@YourCloudyyy]

you cannot do that, they are not hot swappable with mechanical switches.

[@MrNikovec]

@@YourCloudyyywhaatt? wtf