LEMMY's BASSTONE in a PLUGIN??? (feat. Marshall and Softube)

[@KohleAudioKult]

Who's in love with this kind of bass tone? What are you using to distort your bass?

[@potp5150]

Still using Mammoth but going to pick this up now as well!

[@MatthiasBuesing]

Neural DSP Parallax is still unbeaten to me...

[@Asgaia]

Boss OD-1 (not the other, especially not the bassoverdrive, only the OD-1) Quadrafuzz Sansamp PSA-1

[@MartinvonBargen]

Bass into an HM2 or MT2 then a FOWL Sounds Sonic Bronchitis into a DSL20 and then the DAW. Record a DI for the lowend and then throw that into as SVT plugin and blend to taste.

[@KohleAudioKult]

@@potp5150 Mammoth is great of course and a lot more versatile, but yeah. That Lemmy thing is sexy too!

[@Producelikeapro]

Motörhead was one of my first shows ever! I saw them at the Hammersmith Odeon a millions years ago and it was life changing! Great video about a great amp from an amazing Bassplayer, Songwriter and Singer and total 'BROOTAL" badass! I got to work with him only once and I was about as starstruck as you can get! Cameron Webb did 6 albums with him!

[@KohleAudioKult]

At Hammersmith? Damn! I'm jealous!

[@Producelikeapro]

@@KohleAudioKult YEP! Cameron has a board tape cassette from the Show I was at!!! It was A M A Z I N G !!

[@mrcoatsworth429]

Motörhead was my first concert! I was 13.

[@Producelikeapro]

@@mrcoatsworth429 I was also 13!

[@TommyToboggan611]

@@KohleAudioKult ​ @Produce Like A Pro Thank you both so so much for all that you do!

[@DarkItachi1]

you Know what I love about this dude He shows how he finds a great tone and is not just going though the presets like others.

[@mehAudio]

I agree, the original tone sounds like a guitar. I worked as a "roadie" for one concert in Belgium in 2000, I think. We had just gotten everything set up PA-wise and went outside to get some fresh air, wenn they started the sound check inside. And when we heard what we thought was the guitar, we went inside, only to see that it was, in deed, the bass. There was nothing bassy about it. That Rick bass didn't exactly have bass or treble frequencies. Also, it had more gain, way more gain than anyone would think a bass should have. I'm pretty sure there was no clean mixed in. It was really tight, though. Either the lack of low bass of the instrument or perhaps a high pass in the pre, as is usual for Marshalls, cut away everything that would ruin precision.

[@stevewills735]

I could nerd out all day on this tone! Thanks for the great review K! This is gonna be up there with my favorite "dangle" plugin mammoth! cheers

[@KohleAudioKult]

A good add on for sure!

[@666tonsofsquirrels]

Saw them live four times; once in Hannover, three at different Wacken(s). The tone you got is great, but I feel like your picking hand doesn't have enough bourbon going to it from your bloodstream. Aside from new strings and FILTHY mids, a Lemmy tone really needs the player to have a blood alcohol level of 66.6%. Top video wie immer, Kohlmeister. 🤘

[@KohleAudioKult]

Maybe I was a little too sober, haha! I saw them in Wacken too. But that was in 2013 when Lemmy had to stop playing.

[@dextermorgan1757]

@@KohleAudioKult as a huge fan of Lemmy Lemmy is my favorite rhythm guitarist and I'm surprised your computer didn't fucking break

[@kylecalandrelle7209]

Sick tone. Bass is so much fun. Best feeling when done tracking the bass and you get to play with the tone.🤘

[@blustulagu]

Love your videos but I must recommend an Orange Crush 50/100 bass combo... With separate dirty and clean and the blend knob you get Lemmy tone so easily with some soap tweaking. It's a must to check out

[@AcadianEmbassy]

Love the term "dangkle." We call it "GANK!"

[@tobins6800]

Warren over at Produce Like Pro gave out some info like this a while back. He used a saturation plug in, I forget which, on a high pass portion of the bass signal. Compressed the ever loving shit outta the low end. That was the inspiration for one of the rigs I set up in my Headrush MX5. SVT clone, clean low end. Lead 100 for the high end cranked to oblivion. I do want to try some IRs to see if that improves even more.

[@REXBROWNOFFICIAL]

Great overview of one of the Baddest Bass amps EVER!! Great sounds man…Subscribed

[@KohleAudioKult]

Holy shit! Is that you? 🙄

[@slayabouts]

It’s definitely a lot closer to what I like. Personally, my favorite bass tone is Bob Weston of Shellac who uses a Traynor TS-50b amp. There’s a small company that makes a pedal emulating the amp and call it the Rusty Box, which does a great job. I’m still looking for a way to recreate it ITB so I don’t have to worry about dialing in the pedal wrong. So far, I’ve gotten fairly close with FabFilter’s Saturn

[@mrnelsonius5631]

Even though it’s not really hard to setup manually with other plugins, I love that Lemmy seems to be designed around the possibility of using two instances, one for highs one for lows, on separate tracks. I record that way a lot. The high pass built in makes it easy peezy. The tone you got doing that was “darkglass-esque” but still has a certain organic/vintage quality of its own. Great sounding plug-in and love what you did with it!

[@KohleAudioKult]

Thanks! There’s a certain growl that only those old tube amps have!

[@JeremyVarao]

@@KohleAudioKultso I have a Ric 4003. I wonder how the Rick-O-Sound setup would work running two instances of this. One for the bridge pickup and highs and one for the neck pickup and lows…

[@santoclemenzi]

Great tone (as usual)! I like the way you tweaked the tone and then you decided to go with two different tracks, IMO it's so much easier when you split the signal and work on tracks separately rather then trying to tweak a single track and fiddling with the plugin. I'm going to give the Murder One a serious try! Thanks Kohle!

[@anthonylee3311]

This is a man who KNOWS how to create bass tone - thanks for sharing your understanding

[@KohleAudioKult]

Thank you! 🤘🤩 You might wanna check out my latest bass video from last week! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpDJo3acm819bbM

[@scottbyler2649]

Hahaha! I love it! You could talk about anything and I would listen.

[@TheNathanMChannel]

Jesus Cranborn, you almost gave me a heart attack. I thought that was Comic Sans for three dreadful seconds. It's OK, I've recovered. * whew *

[@Shred_Rocket]

Fucking klller tone, damn dude!!! Always fun to see you work and show us the real magic we strive to achieve!

[@billyhughes9776]

As a former bass player I always loved distortion on bass -- Lemmy's tone obviously is one of the tops but Dug Pinnick from King's X has always had a great distorted bass tone, especially on the earlier records. Another great vid Kohle!

[@KohleAudioKult]

I agree! Thanks

[@clintn6677]

I'm glad I got to see Motorhead a couple times before Lemmy passed. Loudest shows I ever been to..

[@resington]

Sounds great!

[@newamerikangospel]

US Customs agent: Are you here for business or pleasure Kohle: Both, actually US Customs agent: What is the purpose of your visit? Kohle: I came looking for dangles US Customs agent: You have been randomly selected for additional screening

[@KohleAudioKult]

Haha! When I went to the US for my "Nail the Mix" session, I had a 10 minute interview at the border. And 80% of it was about Bavarian beer. It was awesome!

[@Ricky-_-Rocker]

This sounds killer! Definitely going to try it out real soon.

[@randjak]

Most of the time I'm using a plugin version of the Sansamp and that seems to work really well. Frank Bello's tone is one of my all time favorite bass tones. Not as extreme as Overkill, but works so well in the mix. Lemmy's tone was just classic, but i don't think I'd find a lot of use for it very often in a mix, though I could be wrong.

[@singerfromhell666]

Only one word = WOW!!!

[@vincentemerald2574]

The origin of the dangle dangle!! Lmao

[@vincentemerald2574]

Holy fucking moly!! Sounds fucking brutal!!

[@vicnest]

This cool. So much better than my first experience. Wonder what's your opinions on the new Celestion Speaker Shaper released at the same time.

[@KohleAudioKult]

Thanks! Haven't found the time to check it. That product is a little more complex than Murder One!

[@rock741228]

dd verni from overkill is the first bass player with the dangle dangle sound

[@michaelrichardson8343]

I totally agree🤘

[@sambaird8138]

that years of decay bass sound is fuckin awesome

[@clintn6677]

They were my first concert when I was 12 years old on the Years of Decay tour. There was like 20 people there cause of a snow storm and they played like it was a stadium.

[@Crowbar11115]

Don't forget Peter Steele!! Type O Negative's Bass Tone literally sounds like fire. Another New York Legend!

[@KohleAudioKult]

Oh damn! The almighty!

[@francescochissale]

Dude than tone is pure bliss. Heavy distortion, chorus, and power chords. I don't think he was even going though a cabinet either. Just out from the preamp. The sound seems like it in the Life is Killing Me album.

[@TeleCustom72]

Great video, and well-timed. I've bought a bass recently and loving the change from guitar. Try a RAT pedal for the dangle-dangle. I'm using a RAT-variant by Caroline pedals called the Wavecannon and its fire-breathing for bass. SYIHMF!!!!

[@douggroulx1525]

Yeah that sounds great in my opinion. You referred to Frank Bello I was very very inspired by his playing and techniques and that overdriven tone made it sit in the mix incredibly well! It is played very tight and precise but it still sounds kind of loose, yeah kind of hard to explain but you know what I mean a. Anyways love your channel love your content. Much metal love from your friends in Canada \,,/

[@KohleAudioKult]

Thanks man! Stay tuned!

[@YsAbTones]

Hey man great vid ! love the preamp that you used, just a suggestion for future video, i think that you might be in love with a mesa boogie mark series amp, particularly the more versatile tone shaping one the mark IV B also mark V/JP2C, the mark IV and the mark III green stripe have the best power section IMO though, to fully enjoy those beast of amps, start with the settings as following ; input volume 7.5, bass 0, mid 2, treble 7, gain 8, then use the treble shift to had distortion to the upper mids, then use the graphic EQ to shape your tone then enjoy the chugga chugga ;) Keep in mind that those amp have the tone stack before the gain so run the bass at 0 to start with, they really shine due to their power section though

[@KohleAudioKult]

Thanks man! I’m actually planning to revisit the EQ if I find the time!

[@MartinBellamyMBDrums]

that was a super cool tutorial!

[@Salantsoundstudios]

I am from new york and i dangle dangle HARD!

[@whitex4652]

Yööööhhhh... Ace of spades, ace of spades... Lemmöööö... 🙌

[@eddiewayne9995]

Origin of the dangle! 😂

[@bones2532]

From what I've heard, the only difference between the Super Bass and the Super Lead is one capacitor in the tone stack. The main circuit layout is very much the same. I had a Laney Pro Tube Bass 100 from the 80s, that turned out to be a Plexi-clone. Unfortunately there's almost no information to find about these amps anywhere. Seems to be quite a rarity. This Amp has real authentic vintage tube tones, unfortunately - like almost any vintage all tube amp - only if you play it at the right volume level. Crystal clean, fat and warm with volume (gain) up to about 4 (10 - 11 o' clock), then it gets slightly saturated. Past 2 o' clock you get into that 'Lemmy-area', I'd say. Only problem is, that all the distortion of these Plexi-style amps comes out of the power tubes. As there's no master volume/preamp distortion, the volume is just deafening if you want overdrive sounds. Even against the loudest drummer you cannot play like that without a power soak. The volume levels are really ridiculous. If you like these kind of distorted bass tones, it can be a good idea, to use digital amp modelers like the Line 6 Helix in my opinion. I use a HX-Stomp for both, guitar and bass guitar. The plexi model sounds really cool for bass, as well as the Fender Twin model (which is very much a Bassman with reverb in the real world). With the option of multiple signal paths, you can also create bi-amp sounds by mixing one dirty signal path (with a guitar amp and cab) with a clean bass tone. Possibilities are endless...

[@KohleAudioKult]

That Laney sounds interesting! 🤯

[@bones2532]

@@KohleAudioKult ... if you can find one, you should buy it without hesitation. Mine was built in 1987. Got it from a friend, who had bought it used with Ruby EL 34 Tubes in it. Don't know, how many amps Laney built of this model. Haven't found any pics or info about this particular model on the internet. The Pro Tube Lead AOR guitar head shows up every now and then in ebay kleinanzeigen, but I haven't seen one Pro Tube Bass head so far. Except for the label that says "BASS" below the front panel it looks exactly like the guitar model. Same layout as an original Plexi. The chassis seems to be the same as the guitar head's, too. The bass model only has 3 preamp tubes instead of 4 in the Lead head for more gain. There's a fourth hole for the tube socket already drilled, perfect for later modding, a tube driven effects loop for example. The only one, I've seen is in a KZbin clip, where a guy plays doom stuff with his guitar through it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/barLlKBrgraCasU Sick stuff!

[@JayBeBerg]

@@bones2532 The Lead spec amps changed quite a lot from the 60's to the 80's. The Bass spec circuit remained pretty much the same. The early Lead amps were very similar to the Bass amps. The bass spec amps (model#' 1986 50w and 1992 100w) are very versatile for both guitar and bass. I can get the tones in this video from my 1972 Super Bass by jumping the channels and fiddling with the gain knobs. But it's also great with guitar and an overdrive (Gary Moore in the 80's).

[@bones2532]

@@JayBeBerg Thanx for that info. The keynote - as I see it - is: In the early days of rock music (late 60s) there hasn't been such a big difference in amps for different Instruments. The reason is, that overdriven, distorted or even high gain sounds were not produced by the amps back then. The main purpose of an amp was just to produce as much clean volume as possible. So the amps used for guitar, bass guitar and organ were quite similar at this time. For me it makes absolute sense, to try different amp models (especially vintage guitar amps) for bass guitar to create unique bass tones. The Orange OR 120 or Matamp heads are a great example.

[@pilummurialis6490]

The best bass for the tone is not a fender, a Spector can do it, but ultimately, you need the position of a Rickenbacker bidge pickup to actually achieve the tone, sadly

[@TheOtherJohnBrowne]

Kristian Kohle and the Quest for Dängel... I'd watch that show! Netflix! Amazon Prime! Get on this shit!

[@KohleAudioKult]

Haha!

[@TheOtherJohnBrowne]

@@KohleAudioKult I'm dead fucking serious 😂 imagine a show where you travel the world chasing all sorts of audio and recording origins and flavours. Kinda like Anthony Bourdain did with food. I know the demographic isn't big enough for something like that but the thought makes me smile

[@DavePowell666]

That bastard bass tone sounds cool! Old school vibes but also kinda modern with the tightness. I currently have Parallax and Mammoth for bass but this is another cool flavour I can't wait to try. 😎

[@KohleAudioKult]

Perfect description.

[@ashnthat]

MF cabs actually don't contain V30s. They have G12 100s in them to deal with the 350w the heads throw out. Amazing sounding cabs. Super underrated.

[@KohleAudioKult]

Nope! There were two different MF cabs. One came with K100s but the 280 came with V30s!

[@kellerkind8438]

Ha, i have a pretty close amp to that. 1979 JMP Super Bass MK2 100 W. It is awesome for Pedals. Grüße ausm Taunus.

[@toemasmeems]

Pls come to New York for the memes and in honor of the dangle dangle lol

[@Geekin_up]

a little split eq with those two mixed murder two it’s gonna sound really good 🥳

[@dominikrog4822]

Journey to the origins of #dängle ? But you promise to film it, even after a few"' beers, right? RIGHT? 😂🍻 On the other hand, are the ba$$ IR's anywhere on the horizon? I remember you saying something about that a long time ago (bass speakers video I think), forgot to ask back in September 😅😉 And the two camera setup looks daaaamn nice, dare I say "professional" 😜 Kickass plugin, even more kickass tone, my wallet may need to suffer a bit 😅 Oh well 😎 Cheers! 🍻🤘

[@KohleAudioKult]

Of course I would film that. There's actually some kind of loose plan about bass IRs

[@dominikrog4822]

@@KohleAudioKult You've had my interest, now you have my full, undivided attention 😜 very much looking forward to that 🤘 Lead us on the quest for #dängle, oh Grindstein Master! 🤘😈🤘 😁😂

[@gorf101]

My bass player "touchy" has one of those old Marshall bass rigs and he wouldn't play with anything else.. Sometimes older biker metalheads will have a lot of good shit! He put his a little twangy and a hair fuller than Lemmy's , it went perfect with both the guitar players 6505s . Awesome

[@KohleAudioKult]

Which one is he using?

[@gorf101]

I'll check when i go to rehearsal on Saturday and I'll let you know for sure..

[@81jmfk]

I have a 1980 Super Bass. It can get fairly nasty on its own. Really fun with bass. With guitar, I get it to edge of breakup and use the Klirrton Oh My Goat, a Way Huge Fat Sandwich or a Horizon Devices Precision Drive.

[@Kairuofficial]

Love you use fernandes! but just to note: Fernandes USA went down but Fernandes is still active here in Japan! Actually came out with a sequel to the sustainer system, no need to have it in your neck pickup now.

[@KohleAudioKult]

Great to hear that! Say hello to Fernandes, haha!

[@Kairuofficial]

@@KohleAudioKult haha ill tag you on Japanese net with them ^v^ "look at this cool foreign guy still using your guitars and basses!"

[@chuckpudish5497]

Great tones. I downloaded the presets through Discord, but I am unable to import them into Amp Room. Is anyone else having issues?

[@KohleAudioKult]

I gotta check if there is s as compatibility problem because of a new version. Or maybe they just work with the single plugin and not with Amp Room?

[@Starch1b2c3d4a]

Heavy!

[@aryehwiznitzer9060]

I associate this type of bass tone a lot with UNSANE - and they are also from New York!

[@griiseknoen]

Let me take a plugin and make it sound completely different? (That being said, the end result sounds GREAT !!! 😁)

[@anyshittynickname]

First time you hear Kohle saying "I just prefer the sm57 on the V30".

[@KohleAudioKult]

🤪

[@acommon]

Question - what kind of strings do you use on your bass? Thanks! ♥️

[@KohleAudioKult]

Warwick. There’s a link below!

[@potp5150]

Danny Lilker is my boy! Best dangle ever.

[@KohleAudioKult]

It's rather total high gain madness than dängle!

[@chrismarcyy]

New York is the mother of dangle dangle needs to be printed on a shirt.

[@jaychen2000metal]

Yeah i heard the Sansamp was good for bass. The guitar version had no mid control and i just couldn't dial it in to something i liked.

[@whatskraken3886]

holy _shit_ that's some low end.

[@aldolopez5179]

Motörhead was the best band of all time

[@TommyToboggan611]

Thats the tone ive had in my head!!! Its grindy, thick and not all dangle! (that dingwall thing is getting old!)

[@KohleAudioKult]

I know what you mean. There's a touch of dängle, I'd say, just not the clänk of the more modern tones.

[@rachitbhengra4298]

Lets goo to the " Dengl Dengl Land ".

[@KohleAudioKult]

That's where I live!

[@stevil77]

I use a real one of these bassamps for guitar. It's more usefull than a stock Superlead or Superbass because of the different gainstages. Whoever claims that these are just Superleads is totally wrong !

[@hyloxalus2798]

New York: Home of the Dangle

[@oleskiyashko2901]

As always 👌

[@michaellandrumguitar]

I use ezmix good enough for me sometimes I choose it over my kemper

[@The404Erorr]

Time for a beer

[@Ap-sz4nb]

Dängle, dängle, dängle!

[@karmelomarin9592]

Next step after this is for someone to make Spinal Tap Marshall plugin that goes to 11.

[@Pabloignacioalvarez]

The Marshall super bass was indeed a bass amp

[@EndlessMeece]

Should you travel to New York? Well, I'm in New York, so I vote yes. And there will be so much Dangle. Soooooooo much Dangle. I vote yes.

[@KohleAudioKult]

I’ll show up sooner or later anyway! The story of the Dängle needs to be told!

[@EndlessMeece]

@@KohleAudioKult Yes, ToneLord! The Mystery must be revealed! Thank you, O'-Dangly-One, for yet again FREELY offering us so much of your wisdom, for helping guide our steps as we seek to follow The Narrow Path of Clank-n-Dangle. Just finished the video. Gonna go grab that plugin right now. I got a few other things to do around the house today, but I will give it a thorough look/listen and leave my thoughts in the discord later today. Thank you, Kellerrrrrr! We are Dangle-Dangling in your debt! 🔥🔥🔥

[@briegleruyet4139]

and rex brown sound?

[@aftertheendtimes]

Or a cheap Behringer BDI21 give that clanky sound and it cost 22 euro =) Cheers

[@deathrules001]

Better than mammoth?

[@KohleAudioKult]

Nope. Less versatile. One trick pony. But that sound is awesome!

[@clarencemarsh5533]

Do it again

[@sitesta3748]

Well, Lemmy got his tone from the Ox: "Best bassplayer in Rock n Roll, ever! No Contest!" kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4StqXSmet-Sj6M 0:30 Just listen to the "My Generation" Solo from "Live at Leeds"

[@bassgearbeergeek9754]

Great video Kohle, maybe your best about bass tone. I'm still waiting waiting for killing bass speakers IR's by the way !!!

[@KohleAudioKult]

In the works! Or let’s say: I’m having plans!

[@bassgearbeergeek9754]

@@KohleAudioKult Oh yeah ! Can't wait !

[@gearforest9746]

I found the mammoth vid really great as well! And it got some Kohle presets with an IR from Kohle, if I remember correctly.

[@zenistermister9695]

Hellyeah 🤘☠️🤘

[@theineffableword1072]

I love this random british guy that comes in looking like he's on a comedown from a 2 day MDMA bender, and he's all like "OI ROIGHT I REMEMBA THAT BLOKE ME AN 'IM USED TO BOOF MESCALINE DOWN IN THE RED LOIGHT DISTRICT IF ME MEMORY SERVES CORRECT YA"

[@PraiseTheSaw]

Thats tasty, damn!

[@musicmore5169]

yes come to Rochester ,NY and drop off more metal heads ,lol.

[@StrikkoPonz]

2 unskippable 15 second ads? Next

[@carlosalfaro1777]

I go to try make it whith the free aplitube plexi!!

[@KohleAudioKult]

Let me know if it worked!

[@dwebus5958]

That doesn’t really sound like lemmy at all LMAO the default one sounded alot like lemmy. The default was way more “metal” than that horrible mid scooped sound you made

[@Asgaia]

But it only goes to 10 ...

[@KohleAudioKult]

Haha!

[@cerebralcoma4850]

Manowar......

[@GingerTwunt]

ok but ask yourself this, did lemmy use plugins? would he have wanted this? no, he used guitar amps :p

[@KohleAudioKult]

I don’t think that matters. But looking at the wide range of Motörhead merchandise, I doubt he would have stopped this! 😉

[@Tt-nt1iu]

Don't go to New York. I lived in Buffalo for a while. Stay in Germany. I promise.

[@alanboomerdavey9356]

Wrong bass guitar, wrong pick ups, wrong everything, that’s not how ya get Lemmys sound.! He showed me personally how to get his sound. I hope no one paid you to do this 😂😂♠️😂😂

[@KohleAudioKult]

I wasn't trying to copy Lemmy's sound. Because I'm not Lemmy! I was trying to get a cool distorted bass tone. I recently played Lemmy's original rig in LA. You'll find a short video about it on this channel. From last month. Enjoy!

[@garethde-witt6433]

Have never liked Lemmy’s bass tone always thought it was crap. He was awesome in Hawkwind and rubbish in Motörhead.

[@johnhareiel5118]

Why not be real and get sounds from real gear man? I'm sick of all these computer cheats. What, you gonna bring an entire computer system to a gig?