Lemon-Rx 7 Channel DSM2/DSMX Reciever with Stabilization & Diversity Antenna

[@cowboy6591]

Dude your so correct, I had the same trouble with the stock AS3X Timber!! Swapped out for the Orangerx with flight stab. Totally wigged out on me midair TWICE!!! 2 propellers later, I got rid of it. I put my CG dead in the middle, so my crashes are suttle angles. Got a Lemon with satellite and flight stab. AND also a Futaba receiver that cost more than I care to mention with stabilizer GPS fly home, auto pilot and FPV. NO MORE DISCONNECTS!!! I will have a buddy monitoring my receiver signal strength first take off. The TIMBER gets the high dollar stuff. The lemon is going into a homemade HUGE STOL coroplast 10 foot wing span with Articulating landing gear---project. I will post my results. But I you go down as one of the "Real Reporters" in my archives, We are with very few company saying it like it is about the Orange receivers. The AS3X? Well the software inside crashed, It won’t even bind. Re flashed it and got it back but minus "SAFE" select. They will not supply us with the DAT file to restore the unit back to stock "TIMBER" settings. You have to hack the code. For that and the added expense of a USB connector and windows computer [which I hate] I have shelved the AS3X idea for good. There are far better "Auto" pilot gadgets out there that don't need a computer to tinker with them. The Lemon of course is for the Spektrum Radio Control.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks cowboy6591 I appreciate your comments. I've learned a lot since my "early days" of RC flight, but Lemon-Rx has never let me down, that I can pinpoint, but Orange HAS most definitely. I would love to play with the AS3X stuff...but I can't bring myself to spend that kinda cash for an Rx....that's whole plane kinda cash!!! Lemon-Rx is excellent, if you're using DSM2 or DSMX...but FASST, maybe they'll do one some day ;)

[@teach6445]

Just want to give a big thanks man, watched your vid had my lemon stab rx up and running. Put it in the FMS yak 130 and it’s solid, those dip switches are a doozy for a pnp noob like myself. Gyro direction on my ali. needed to be change. Thanks again man

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I'm very glad I could help! Hope you come back for more. This is an older video too, so as you advance in the hobby, you can come along side me and work together to share what we figure out. Very steep, and poorly documented, learning curve in this hobby

[@patrickcooper2760]

Yes I did figure out the Aux1 and gear in bind plug from watching your videos

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Great!!! That's excellent. Let me know when you get a chance to try the other items. If you want to see my failed attempts at setting up the Stablizer-Plus...check out the Arcus M playlist... kzbin.info/aero/PLXTH0DstRDc7D9b7pdSNem8h19FQ7crwG

[@jasoncutajar5575]

Hi Brian, I just put a lemon-rx stab plus receiver in a plane. When put into auto level mode, the gain control knob puts it out of level i.e. if I crank up the gain to max the ailerons show level but when I lower it, the ailerons begin to go out of level. Any ideas?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I had nothing but trouble with Stabilization PLUS, and never recommended it after using it only once. In fact, the Rx would RESET might flight - very dangerous!!! I'm sorry to say, I'm not sure how to help.

[@scotty1004]

Hi I keep loosing signall with spektrum receivers and my dx8e,so I brought this receiver, is there another 8 channel transmitter I could use with this receiver that you could recommend I'm not using the dx8e anymore

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

That's a real bummer. Have you talked with Horizon Hobby yet? Have you run range tests to see how far you can go back? Is there an antenna broken off on the Rx??? I've only ever had issues when I find an antenna broken, or the like...we've been very fortunate with our Spektrum gear, even when using OpenTx transmitters....BUT we stay fairly close, and have less radio interference than before when we were in town.

[@scotty1004]

@@BrianPhillipsRCMy dx8 is like new only about 6 month old ,I have done range checks but the signal loss is always when close by and only last for 2 seconds then regains signall again. I only fly in 2 places the main place is a disused airfield,I have signal loss everytime I fly their even though its normally only for a second here and there.Last time I had a fly away balsa cessna with a brand new saito gas engine,I found it smashed up in a bush about a half mile away from the airfield.I have just brought the lemon plus I need to buy a new tx to use ,could you recommend anything? Thanks for your help

[@mannysrceverything712]

Wat if I need all 7 channels..will I still have the stabilizer on

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

You can have it OFF...one of the ONLY bad features about this rig...I want to be able to FORCE IT ON, then use the MASTER GAIN on channel 8 to "turn it off, but turning it DOWN..." This Rx is great, but you gotta play with it and use Bind Plug for the last usable channel (channel 7 - Aux 2) and Aux3 is MASTER GAIN.

[@chriswoods8812]

alright. gotcha. thanks for all the help and advice. i really appreciate it

[@jimedmiston6190]

You can also assign certain Tx inputs to certain output channels on the Rx to save the trouble of having to enter all those mixes. I can do that with my Dx9 but I can't remember if that version of the Dx8 is capable.

[@daquino0021]

Hi Brian, I'm in the process of setting up a Hobbyking Mini Skysword.. a plane that has plenty of internal wall space but not much internal floor space (the 4S 3000mAh Lipo pretty much uses up the floor real estate). I intend on using a Lemon RX 7-Ch Diversity Stab / Receiver and I'm trying to avoid messing with Mixes if possible. Would it be safe to say that if I mount my Lemon RX sideways to the inner wall, that my Aileron Gain Settings would remain the same, but if I had to adjust the sensitivity of the Elevator, then I would have to make adjustments turning the Rudder Pot, and if I had to adjust the sensitivity of the Rudder, then I would make adjustments turning the Elevator Pot?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

YES, BUT you still need to reassign the control channels too, otherwise you'll be controlling the wrong axis with each stick... This is SUPER easy with a newer Spektrum Tx...are you running a DX9? I was running an older DX8, so that's why it was such a pain in this setup.

[@daquino0021]

Brian Phillips I’m using the Spektrum DX8 G2

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

oh yeah, swapping channels with anyG2 will take you like 5 seconds... so for sure, you CAN do what you want to do without ANY mixing. Do you need help?

[@daquino0021]

Thanks Brian! I may have to take you up on that offer when the time comes for me to have to lay my Lemon RX Diversity Receiver sideways. In the end, I managed to make a custom elevated tray for my H-King Skysword and ended up turning out great: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJuVc6eQbL6op7s

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Cool, nice work!

[@bajawfo]

Thanx ! I just got my first rc plane and would have never known how to set the stabilization up w/o this vid. Now if it would just cool down so I can get in the garage...

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

No kidding, 90° here today! I still got some flying in with my ASK-21 UMX, despite the crazy wind! Thanks for watching! P.S. I have tons of weird tutorial videos as you continue to learn about RC electronics, and I hope some of the other videos might help you again

[@dillonjones978]

Hey Brian I’m in need of some help setting up my lemon 7 channel with satellite and stabilization. I’ve read the manual over and over I’ve been on rx groups and still can’t get it to work. Would you be willing to help trouble shoot? Dillon

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Sure, What's the problem?

[@dillonjones978]

This is regaining the lemon rx 7 channel with satellite and stabilization. I posted the videos on YT so I could get them on rc groups thread can you see them? Or should I send them to you. I’ve read the lemon manual j4 j5 dip switchs set to on with gains completed low I’m getting bad jitters almost have deflection. I also unplugged the lemon and put my spectrum RX back on so I wasn’t going crazy everything is fine with the spectrum. Powered up the lemon to try to isolate a particular servo or control surface. Rudder by its self bad jitters. Ailerons by its self not so bad, but jitters. Elevator by its self horrible and then they stuck at 3/4 deflection .

[@dillonjones978]

Ive rebound several times. Rebound without the satellite. Rebound and plugged a control surface one at a time .. rudder bad.. ailerons bad. Elevator really bad. I have a DX6i tried switching from dsmx to dsm2.

[@dillonjones978]

Do you think 6... 9 gram analog servos, 1100 outrunner and the lemon would crap out a 30 amp ESC??? That’s my last idea before I think I have a bad lemon. But everyone says these things a flawless and it’s either operator error or set up error. I’m pretty sure I’m doing something wrong but I can’t figure it out

[@dillonjones978]

Thanks

[@gbugari]

Hi Brian. I have a HobbyKing eagle that uses Y cable aileron- 1 servo and V tail with Rudder 1 servo and elevator 1 servo. Can I use the Lemon RX DSMP/X Compatible 7-Channel Receiver With Stabilizer PLUS & Diversity Antenna (End-Pin) LM0044? . Also, could you make a video with this receiver and V tail Plane... That would be awesome. George

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I would love to help you out, but I actually don't have any "V" tail planes...sorry! When I get one, I would love to show how this works on the Lemon-RX 7CH with Stabilization (Stabilizer PLUS & Diversity Antenna (End-Pin) LM0044...as you mentioned).

[@genes6703]

The guy at motion rc said the gyro doesn’t support flaperons. You said there is a dip switch that says flaperons? I didn’t see it. Does it say something else? I saw 6 dip switches. Are you saying that it is possible to set up flaperons with this gyro? Thanks

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Gene Sultan What reciever are you using? If you're using the Lemon-RX 7 channel with stabilization and stabilization PLUS... Follow this link and scroll down. www.lemon-rx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=151 ....unless MotionRC reprogrammed the rx, you DO have flapperons.

[@genes6703]

I have the lemon rx stab plus, but I also wanted to try the admiral one that motion rc sells. They are both made by the same company but the admiral is made special for motion rc. I assumed they would both be the same but I guess they arent. Thanks for the help in this dept.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I replied here too...but this is a duplicate reply Gene. My reply is regarding the Admiral (not the lemon-rx) Follow this link and PAUSE the video, so you can see the dip switch positions to get flapperons... kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJzRc6Rqhd9-fq8

[@petemiddleton64]

ive got one of these can anybody help me out when i fly my glider dont seem to be working right when i turn left its trying counter act any inputs i do it shouldent be does it with elivator as well using dx7 with it any help i would appreciate it thanks

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

You may need to flip the dip switch on your receiver so that the stabilizer corrects the roll in the correct direction.

[@petemiddleton64]

its got worse the gyro packed up all together but still works as reciever

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

If you want more channels, that's the way to go.

[@rgr4475]

Brian Phillips How do you flip this switch and what exactly does it do?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Can you be a bit more specific. If you Time stamp the point in the video where you're confused, or if you could just clarify I'll try and answer you. If you're not sure what I mean by timestamp... 1:00 will take you to one minute into the video.... likewise 10:23 would take you to 10 minutes and 23 seconds into the video.

[@fpvandgasrc4321]

Hey great video once again I have the 7 Channel stabilizer lemonrx receiver and was wondering how to set up failsafe and if there is a failsafe button on this receiver. I wanted to do a failsafe preset for my flying wing or does this receiver just have a no pulses failsafe thanks

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I don't think there is failsafe, beyond throttle cut at signal loss.

[@fpvandgasrc4321]

@@BrianPhillipsRC thank you for the reply.. yea i was flying and my throttle cut out and all i had was aileron and elavator (flying wing) control. After a few seconds the motor then came back. I wasn't that far... Another question is i bought the satellite extension for the 7ch lemon rx with stabilizer. (not the plus version) i wonder if that would help with the range... also i did a 6 dbi antenna mod on the dx6e. So hopefully with the satellite extension reciever and the 6dbi mod i can get gat more range... What do you think?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I don't know enough to say for sure, but if you didn't have satellite before, but you do now, I have to assume you're going to fair much better.

[@genes6703]

Hi Brian, can you explain what a satellite receiver is? Can't seem to figure this one out. thanks

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Sure Gene! It's a redundant Receiver without all the outputs to the servo channels. The signal is redundantly passes back into the main receiver and then the main receiver monitors and decides between which signal it perceives is more viable. This works similar to a diversity antenna (two antenna vs just one), except that there's actually another small circuit. The main advantage of a satellite over a simpler diversity antenna, or a satellite in addition to a diversity antenna, is that you will be looking radio waves at a different location, thus dramatically reducing the chances of a full signal loss. I prefer to use a diversity antenna like this... Lemon-Rx 7Ch DSMX Rx w/ Stabilizer + Diversity Antenna - amzn.to/2GTlQze VS a Satellite rx like this... Lemon-Rx 7Ch DSMX Rx w/ Stabilizer + Satellite - amzn.to/2F8f3Se ...simply because it is smaller and a few bucks less, but the money is not really the factor for me now. I know that I run a higher risk of a signal loss, so I'm very careful to point my antenna at 90 degrees of each other, to maximize the signal that will be picked up at any given position. Watch this excerpt of one of my videos to see what I'm doing to help you see the 90 degrees difference in position (watch to see what I built to hold the Rx Antennas)... kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKfcoqeIbJp4bKsm57s ...hope this helps!

[@genes6703]

Brian Phillips sorry. I’m on my iPad and it’s little more difficult to see where my comments are. Reason I asked about the satellite receiver is cause I was looking at plane kits from twisted hobbies and they showed it. Did you ever build a plane kit from twisted hobbies. They look fun to do but not sure how they are. Thanks

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Okay, I understand much better now. I thought I had missed something. I've never built or purchased a model from Twisted Hobbies. 3D flying is not my thing. Sorry I can't help you on this one Gene.

[@genes6703]

Brian Phillips are those planes only for 3D flight? I guess with a name like twisted, that should tip me off.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Not only for 3D, I guess, but they are built very light and very high power to weight ratio. They'll fly really good, but just not something I'm into...I prefer scale aircraft....but enjoy any type of aircraft from time to time. Don't let me talk you out of it!!!! I don't mean to do that at all. Just an observation :)

[@roadstar499]

Hi,i deleted my last comment by mistake and have another question...the Motion RC 6 channel rx600sp product which i believe is made by lemon has auto level mode and gyro mode they say...Can you tell me if its worth buying? have you heard good things? I like this mode opion especially if plane gets to far and you loose orientation...thanks.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I don't like the Lemon-Rx Stabilization-Plus, as I don't find it to work well, however, the MotionRC product is supposed to have custom firmware, which may or may NOT work well...since I haven't tried it, I don't want to mislead you. I can say that the Lemon-Rx 7channel with Stabilization is VERY good!

[@roadstar499]

@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks the rx600sp does have great reviews..i am going to learn more about it...i have lemon rx 7 ch stab...any tips on setting gains? where to start etc? thanks again...

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Set the gains ALL the way up, and set a knob for the "master gain"...then when you take off, you can have the stabilizer "low" and increase to your desired setting. Keep in mind you'll have potential for oscillation, which can easily be mitigated by making a "Kill switch" for the stabilizer too. I prefer to setup the switches in the same position as I'd use for SAFE, when equipped. This way I can get used to the same spot for a speedy correction. I've also found it's smart to get your gains worked out on the first couple flights, then you can leave your "knob" at the same general position, so you don't take off your next plane and have an unexpected, severe oscillation.

[@mrfoamiercplanes6859]

Was that a DSM-2 Orange 3-axis stabilizer receiver ? I don't think they ever made a DSMX 3-axis stabilizer ? (was not sure if you said dsmx or dsm-2 )

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Can you put in a time stamp? I probably just mis-spoke, if so, sorry about that. I believe you're correct that Orange only had the DSM2, rather than DSMX...

[@mrfoamiercplanes6859]

@@BrianPhillipsRC Surprisingly fast reply thank you, Time stamp 10min 30sec ish. I have been using lemon receivers for about 3 years now without any failures but I also lost a couple of AXNs (clouds fly HK) due to orange rx signal loss . I am about to install one of these lemon rx stabilizers on my 3D Printed 73" Edge 540 v3 from 3dlabprint and will be using your video for reference. Thanks

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

yep, I think it was just a mis-speak AND I think you're right (but this video is old...so I can't remember for 100% certain)...the Orange Rx was DSM2, now that you jog my memory.

[@slow9445]

so its bassically a gyro?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

It's a receiver with a built in stabilizer.

[@celaleddinozer144]

Hello sir which lipo we prefer supreme a330

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

For the A330-600, I'm running on a 4000mAh 4S 60C Turnigy Heavy-Duty. For the A320, I was running 2200mAh 3S 60C Turnigy Heavy-Duty.

[@woogieman02]

How well would this guy work for a 2.6m glider running a dx6v2?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

It would work well! I have several 2.6m gliders....here's some of them ASW-28 2.6m - kzbin.info/aero/PLXTH0DstRDc5gwAcvxziWIb-HcRqQoQWUASH-26 2.6m - kzbin.info/aero/PLXTH0DstRDc6otzLyJy9aoT9rGvBBiCiTPhoenix Evolution 2.6m - kzbin.info/aero/PLXTH0DstRDc4eYLtaRf01AkhBze6XkRuL

[@s197stang8]

Hey Brian can you use DXE radio with this receiver ?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

You can use any DSMX / DSM2 transmitter, so yes ;)

[@s197stang8]

Brian Phillips a regular DXE transmitter ?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

yes, you will have to bind it to the Rx, and then setup the programming on the DXe to work, but you will also be limited to the number of available channels on the DXe...so keep that in mind.

[@genes6703]

Brian, How come when I am in the self leveling mode and when I turn the gains down most of the way, it affects the ability to use the ailerons. In other words when the gains are turned low the sticks don't move the ailerons. But only in self leveling mode. Is this normal. thanks.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I have to assume you have something goofed up. Since I don't have the Rx you're using, I can't say for 100% certain. I really want to help you out, and feel your pain, but since I don't know what's going on, I'd only be able to recommend, playing with the MASTER GAIN / STABILIZER ON/OFF/ AUTO-LEVEING ON/OFF channel until you get the desired results.

[@genes6703]

I'm using the lemon rx, but it happens on both. When you put yours in self leveling mode and turn your gains all the way down, you still have control of your ailerons with the sticks? thanks

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

To directly answer your question, yes I can always overwhelm my Rx's stabilization control with my aileron inputs...ALWAYS...but since we're not dealing with the same device... What you're refereeing to is the 7 Channel with "stablizerPLUS" or what Lemon-Rx calls DSMP, even though it's still DSM2/DSMX (aka Spektrum's preferred radio protocol)... This is also the one that MotionRC contracted with Lemon-Rx to build under their Admiral lineup, which I'm also not familiar with, since I haven't got one. I think there are some bugs in BOTH auto-leveling varieties, so I have not recommended this choice, especially for beginners. This has been my ONLY complaint with Lemon-Rx gear to date, that and their stupid "green" packaging that allows the cheap cases to be damaged from time to time. Still VERY good track record for a low price point! I'm not using the auto-leveing type, except for in one plane, the 2225mm ST Model Arcus M...on which I only ever used the stabilizer, as I had nothing but problems with the auto-leveling... I don't encourage anyone to use the auto-leveling feature, as I've experienced twice where the Rx attempted to auto-level, then it reset the Rx after it was unable to bring the plane to home/level position quick enough. What I'm flying is the 7 Channel with Stabilization, DSM2/DSMX, which is why I keep saying, I don't know for certain, but I have to assume there's something to do with your stabilizer on/off, which is the same channel for toggling between auto-leveling on and off....since I don't have this piece of equipment, I can't answer for you, even though I'd love to answer for you.

[@genes6703]

Brian Phillips appreciate your answer, but it’s happening with the lemon that you recommended. On the lemon when I turn the gains down the sticks don’t move the control surfaces. It doesn’t make sense that the gains setting affects the control surfaces. But it only happens in auto level. Isn’t auto level feature the same as the safe in spektrum? Maybe I’ll have to call lemon. Thanks for the help

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Gene, I'm starting to lose my patience on this one.... SAFE is only available on AS3X receivers, and it's not the same technology as Lemon-Rx, even though they are similar... AS3X (artificial stabilization three axis) is Spectrum branded stabilization. It's gain can't typically be controlled while in flight, unless you go with the highest level AS3X receivers, which will set you back hundreds of dollars per system...and they are VERY complex. SAFE (sensor aided flight envelope) is Spektrum branded auto leveling, which has AS3X as it's basis for auto-leveling. It's a lot more sophisticated than Lemon-Rx's technology, which is evident in how much better it works, but it's also a lot more expensive, so I only get it in my BNF planes, and don't need SAFE anymore, but it was a MUST-HAVE when I was learning to fly. I will say this again, and don't want to keep going back and forth, I DO NOT RECOMMEND Lemon-Rx StabilizerPlus receivers...these are the ones that supposedly support Auto-Leveling...because I have had problems with them. I DO RECOMMEND, love, and use all the time, the Lemon-Rx 7 Channel with Stabilization. They LOOK almost exactly the same, but they are not the same. See the below excerpt from my description list (common on many of my videos, but not in all of my videos)... 7Ch DSMX Rx,Stab,DivAnt - amzn.to/2GTlQze (

[@MrEbringman]

Hi Brian I enjoy your videos, I am putting one of these into a old Calypso glider and it needs to be mounted vertical like the one in this video, I understand the changes in the transmitter, question is do you switch where you plug the servos into the receiver, seems logical but my logic doesn't alway track with others

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Glad you're enjoying my videos! We're glad to have you here! If you want the stabilizer to work properly, you'll just swap the elevator and rudder into the "other" port, then set up a "swap" in your transmitter. It would have been pretty easy in my DX18, but this was filmed when I was still flying with my DX8, where you had to do a bunch of "mixes" an "un-mixes" to make it work the right way. Just make 100% certain you have it right before you launch your Calypso. It WILL work, but takes a bit of trial and error to get it right, Good luck Edgar!

[@MrEbringman]

Thanks Brian

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Sure thing Edgar!

[@rossrcfallacaro3422]

Hey Brian, I know you’ve answered this a few times, but my dumb butt is still confused. I know that As3x is custom to horizon products, as well as SAFE. My question like others who have asked, is there any comparison to SAFE with the lemon? I’m still getting back into the hobby and find SAFE to be an amazing component for beginners. I’m just curious if I should stick to horizon, or specktrum. Recievers that have safe? Unless Lemon offers a comparable stabilization system to SAFE, I would not yet feel comfortable dying with it just yet - not to say that once my skills get better I won’t be using lemon. Do you know of any recievers that offer something similar to SAFE for a cheaper price than a specktrum rx? If not, maybe that is something I need to try and invent! I am in love with the SAFE options on my currre rx’s, but not in love with the price..lol. Anyway, any feedback greatly appreciated as ALWAYS!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Yes Lemon-Rx has Stabilization Plus...but buyer be ware...I don't think it works :( At least I didn't have good luck with it at all! It's their take on "auto-leveling" but Keep in mind, when you finally start to get off of SAFE, AS3X is super similar to other stabilizers, like what Lemon-Rx and Eagle Tree A3, A3-L, Orange, etc... Yeah, there's some other Flight Controllers, like for drones that will do auto-leveling (like SAFE) but I don't like the more complicated setup. If you want SAFE, Horizon Hobby makes a great product, it's just definitely NOT cheap!!!

[@rossrcfallacaro3422]

Brian Phillips i just one a new PnP from an eBay auction - traimstar - for like $50. I also ordered a lemon from motion for $29. Might as well give it a shot, lol. Worst case scenario I’m going to be doing repairs. I need to stop relying on sage soon anyway. Much appreciated like always and I’ll keep you posted

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Good luck Ross!

[@gbugari]

Tks

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Your welcome!

[@calixtogomestutoriais4334]

I would like to know which website bought boeing A330-600

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

RC-Castle.com Get one now, they're back in stock!!!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

....or... Hobby-Paradise.com

[@ljhobbylife]

Lemon RX should be sending you these in droves with all your responses, lol. Quick question, I have a DX6 and was trying to set up a plane with retracts and Flaps, is there any way to still use atleast the stabilizer don’t need the leveling function, kinda of like an AS3X does in the Eflite Corsair?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Yes, that's what I do! I would strongly encourage you to get the Lemon-Rx 7 Channel with stabilization, and NOT the auto-leveling (AKA Lemon-Rx 7 Chanel with StabilizerPlus), since I feel that the setup on the Stabilization is a bit easier. (Buy THIS one... amzn.to/2GTlQze ...which is the one without AUTO-Leveling, but you still get the actually very good stabilizer...like AS3X) I have done lots of stuff with these Lemon-Rx receivers with stabilization, and I always use the stabilizer. There is a way to keep the stabilizer "ON" all the time, while still using that channel, only keeping the play within the "top half" of the servo range. I did this on my ASH 26, and my Airbus A380. I use ALL the channels, AND I have stab on/off, and master gain. The setup was quite complex on both of these planes, but if you want to pick up a trick or two, and you are a very, very, very patient person, you could watch both of these playlists...I mean, if you're REALLY patient... Airbus A380 - kzbin.info/aero/PLXTH0DstRDc5vJAqLOLT35hN4lIDmz9ttASH 26 - kzbin.info/aero/PLXTH0DstRDc6otzLyJy9aoT9rGvBBiCiT ...seriously, if you had a 3 year sentence, you might not be able to watch them all, but if you had 5 years...you'd be good to go... LOL Hope you watch some at least :)

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

P.S. Oh Yeah, almost forgot... It would be nice if Lemon-Rx would send me some goodies to put out for them, and I'd gladly point people toward their products, as I always point at what I enjoy.

[@ljhobbylife]

As always you’re always so helpful, thank you so much. I’ve used these lemon RX before based on your videos, but wasn’t sure if I could leave it on like AS3X, on the Carbon Cub 1.3 I pulled the GPS and factory receiver out and used the lemon stab+ one since I had a buddy that his Carbon flew away never to be seen again with GPS enabled, 😆

[@ljhobbylife]

Ordered used your link, hope you get some credit and the folks at lemon are watching, lol. You deserve it. TY

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

That GPS crap is a HUGE pain in the but! Not only is it extremely difficult to figure out, but I hate even more when you're flying along, and the plane is like "NOPE I'm GONNA GO OVER HERE NOW!" The idea is a cool idea, but Geo-fencing is like giving your cell phone full control of your car, when all you want is the GPS to tell you where to exit the interstate.

[@shckltnebay]

Just got my Lemon 6 stability in a Flyzone Cessna 350 in five days, maiden tomorrow

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Good Luck! I hope you love them as much as I do! 1) Make sure you have a shut off or mater gain setup and ready to go. If you start to oscillate, you can turn it off, or turn it down quickly! 2) Make sure when you pre-flight, the ailerons go up when you lift up the wing. If you haven't spent much time with stabilizers, double, and triple check that all control surfaces move contrary to the direction you move it...it they move the same way you move the wing/elevator...you WILL CRASH!!!!

[@shckltnebay]

Brian Phillips Thanks I already have a Conscendo and a Super cub S with AS3X and set up gear on switch H on my DX6 , watching the maiden now

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Excellent! AS3X is great, but just be carefull...Horizon Hobby does a great job setting up all the AS3X settings for you while Lemon-RX will require a bit of work. It's worth it. Good luck! Thanks for watching. P.S. Hope I can help if you have questions

[@shckltnebay]

Brian Phillips Thanks again, im got initial settings at 12 noon, seams to be close to the As3x settings, and I can switch it off if need be.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Great! Hope all goes well!

[@patrickcooper2760]

Hi Brian,love your videos on Lemon RX. I was wondering if you can help me? I can't figure out how to set the auto level. I want auto level only when the gear are down and can't find how to do that. Thx, Pat

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I don't think the auto-level works well at all on the Lemon-RX stabilizer-Plus. In fact, and not to be a Debby Downer here, it's the only thing I can find wrong with their lineup. I watched the MotionRC videos, and they are doing to WEIRD stuff, and don't think even they've figured it out yet, but you know how lemon-Rx is..., "well, we don't have a manual. We were hoping you knew how to use it" - LOL Have you at least figured out that the Bind Plug acts as AUX 2? Gear Channel is going to need to be assigned to a 3 position switch. At the top (or bottom) of the throw, you'll have "Auto Leveling", then in the middle, stabilizer, then at the other end, Nothing... You have to switch DELTA and VTAIL to activate the features...even though you're not using Vtail or Delta....you just choose BOTH which means the "stabilizer / auto leveling" are "on" with the GEAR channel. I must warn you, before you get too far along. You may not be able to SHARE the GEAR channel for the landing gear, since you're gonna be in the middle of the throws for a lot of the flight, and most gear will activate above or below center, so you may not have enough differentiation to properly control the gear on the GEAR channel...but no issue there, just use AUX1 (not AUX2). Are you gonna use flapperon support?

[@albertherlicka4078]

Nice video. I installed the Lemon RX7 in my glider and have a couple questions on the way it works. When the stabilizer is turned on the ailerons make a corrections but they go to the max position. I can adjust the sensitivity so it's not such a hard correction. Is this suppose to move the ailerons slowly or snap to the max positions? The elevator does not do this. Am I suppose to turn the switches 4 and 5 to the on position? I've tried that too but no difference. Appreciate the help. Al

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Check out this much more recent footage. I'll show HOW to do it, since it's going to be VERY hard to help you figure out what's working or not working based on this info. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHutfJefisyIkLc It's regarding a sail plane, but you can more or less copy the setup exactly, if you wish. Pay special attention to the way I get the control channels to move the surfaces, and which direction...then later, you set gains for each axis, and ultimately, a master gain for all three axis stabilizaiton.

[@celaleddinozer144]

I have airbus a380 can ı use this lemon for my plane same setup

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I don't have the Airbus A380, but I've learned a little bit about this RC plane. There are two out there, which make is yours? ...but YES, you can use this receiver for your A380, but it'll be configured differently, depending on if you decide to run the dual elevators with the ailerons like a lot of people do on that model. Since this A380 is a bank and yank (...assuming I'm guessing the right plane) you may want to use the left elevator with the left aileron and the right elevator with the right aileron. This can be accomplished without giving up stabilization, but you have to set up your transmitter as a "regular" plane, then use the "DELTA" dip switch setting. This may disqualify your ability to utilize Flapperons, which would not likely make sense in such a setup, but either way, good luck! If you get me a bit more info, I'll try and help you more specifically. Thanks for watching!

[@celaleddinozer144]

Brian Phillips thank you very much I want to try and how about supreme models I want to buy a330 but dont idea do you have any flying video your lemon rx recevier

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Yes, I have several playlists... Here are the two relevant to Supreme-Hobbies planes... A330-600... kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnasgoqda6yUi6M A320... kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2Knm5ZsaqeZfa8 Please take a few minutes are scroll through them to find what you're looking for. Enjoy!

[@Mike-01234]

Have you had any radio link problems with the lemon receivers?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

No, none that I can say. Lemon-RX is an excellent value, and I'd highly recommend them. If I were flying a $20,000 plane, I'd probably get a Spektrum receiver, but I'd also die of a heart attack before I could taxi to the runway

[@genes6703]

Brian, my gyro works great but when I set up the Tx for flaperons and separate the ailerons into 2 channels, only one of the ailerons is working with the gyro. One channel is Aux 1 and the other is the ail in the receiver. How do you get the gyro to work both channels?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Gene Sultan You have to flip the Flapperon Dip switch, as well as the radio system being turned on to Flapperons.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Gene Sultan Also, you might need to be on Aux 2 (but I can't remember for sure)

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJzRc6Rqhd9-fq8 Pause the video and check out the dip switch settings...you CAN do flapperons. Sorry, I've been so busy I just sat down to work on this case. I hope you get it working!!!

[@dkroen]

Hey Brian, I put a lemon-rx 7 channel tx in my FW A-10 64mm and the stabilizer seems bit "wobbly" when I'm in the air. When I do a ground test, everything seems to work fine (gyro, auto-level). But the second I get up in the air and engage either of those functions, it seems like the wings get jittery and the plane moves around on its own quite a bit. It doesn't stay level and becomes very difficult to fly. It is way easier and smoother to fly with everything disengaged. Thoughts?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

If it's harder to fly with the stabilizer engaged, you have it setup wrong...you might have things backwards...I wonder if you actually have the stabilizer ON and it's flying well, then when you turn in off, it's all of a sudden way more touchy? Also, if the plane oscillates, you just need to change your gain setting for that axis. Let's say you're flying strait and level at 60% throttle, and all is well, when you give it 100% throttle, you notice the wings tip, rolling left, then right, then left, then right, until you slow down...this is a stabilizer oscillation...you'll have to adjust the gain for that axis DOWN, then she'll settle down. You could also just turn down the Master Gain, but that might make the rudder and elevator axis less effective. Setting up the stabilizer is not super simple, but once you get it, it will make flying a whole lot easier.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Have you watched this video series yet??? It's NOT about the A-10, but it might help you out as far as setting up the radio system, (part 3 in particular)... Part 1 - Unboxing - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmHKi6t8hs2aoLM Part 2 - Build - Decals - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJmyl3-Dm9iqosU Part 3 - Build - Radio Setup - kzbin.info/www/bejne/l32ulp-Yo5WmptE Part 4 - Build - Assembly Part 1 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXfReYmjoJlsi5Y Part 5 - Build - Assembly Part 2 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXTYoJKoo6mHqqM Part 6 - Build - Motor Breaking Setup - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWKym2qfoZ2of68 Part 7 - Maiden Flight - kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4PGmKikrMh-i6M ...If you have questions, definitely ask, and I'll try and help, but your question is just a bit too vague for me to specifically address.

[@62heliman]

Did you restart the program with a clean model select. If you don't you get problems.

[@fa300ry]

Hey Brian Does the Lemon Stabilizer PLUS work like "SAFE" or its just like AS3X with availability of a panic option ? Can you recommend an after market gyro that works like "SAFE" ? Thanks

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

SAFE is Sensor Aide Flight Envelope...AKA Auto Leveling AS3X is Artificial Three Axis Stabilization...AKA Stabilization AS3X is at the heart of SAFE. Without AS3X, SAFE would not be possible. The AS3X system is a Horizon Hobby product. Horizon Hobby uses DSM2 and DSMX, which is their transmission protocol form the Transmitter to the Receiver, even though many manufacturers operate within the 2.4GHz bandwidth. Lemon-Rx is not affiliated with Horizon Hobby in any way but their Recievers are DSM2 or DSMX. Most recently, they've coined the term, DSMPlus...which isn't a thing...it's just DSMX. This DSMPlus is just their "auto-leveling" product (that doesn't work well at all, if you ask me...and I LOVE lemon-rx, btw) Lemon-Rx makes a 7 Channel with Stabilization, and a 7 Channel with Stabilization Plus... The 7 Channel with Stabilization only provides stabilization which works GREAT, while the 7 Channel with Stabilization Plus supposedly provided for Stabilization AND/OR Auto Leveling, that later of which I've not found to work well. If you NEED SAFE (Auto Leveling) Stick to a plane with SAFE or SAFE Select, and when you're ready, stabilization only will be very helpful, and Lemon-Rx will work perfect for you. If you don't need SAFE, then you can use either. P.S. This is a slight over-simplification, but I want to answer your question fully...Panic is just like being in AS3X only (stabilization), and switching to SAFE for a few seconds, with the press of a button...then it goes back to AS3X only (stabilization). I just answered this question for another guy, so I hope you don't mind me copying the reply. This is a loaded question, and it's easier said than done, explaining it ;) Thanks for understanding!

[@skeeterhoney]

DO you still use the Lemon receivers? I'm late to the game and I think I'll like them....especially for the price.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Yes, but haven't been doing as many PNF planes, since we've been so busy with RTF and BNF planes, HOWEVER, I'd be using this if I were putting together a PNF plane today... 7Ch DSMX Rx,Stab,DivAnt - amzn.to/2GTlQze OR 7Ch DSMX Rx,Stab,Sat - amzn.to/2RibIry

[@spyglass3978]

hello brian..i saw several videos how to set up this gyro..i have one question the 1,2,3 switches must be on or off???

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

You will need to be more specific before I can answer your question.

[@grantlouis2688]

Hi Brian.. So.. I just ordered my new DX8 TX and a 7ch Lemon RX I've reading the manual for the Lemon and with the DX8 I'll have Master Gain capability.. Am I correct assuming the Aux 3 (Ch 8) is an internal ch with in the Lemon Rx? Thanks Grant

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Channel 5 (GEAR) toggles on and off Channel 8 (Aux 3) changes the level of MASTER GAIN Please keep in mind, you can still adjust the ailerons vs elevator vs rudder gains, then turn them all up or down nominally with the Master Gain...works well, but I wish I could have gear channel back, since I usually set AUX 3 to +/- 150% to make for a huge variation from nothing to more that you're supposed to get...thus, you can make a mix to turn it off with the flip of a switch, or just use GEAR to turn on and off. One very important hint, as you get ready to start setting this up...set the same switch and knob EVERY TIME, on EVERY MODEL (where you're using these awesome Lemon-RX receivers). This will help you build good muscle memory to turn off the stabilizer quick, and since you'll probably have to pull your hands off the sticks to adjust the master gain, you'll want to have as many factors taken "off your plate" to avoid accidents. Good luck! Lots to learn, but you CAN do it!!! One more quick tip. Set up a simple glider, then get out in the yard and test it with nice simple tosses. When you're doing your pre-trip, turn the master gains all the way up to really exaggerate the throws, so you wan be 100% sure they're working in the right direction. If you have a stabilizer working the wrong way - YOU WILL CRASH! Not sure if you saw my Sig Dornier DO 217 video series, but here's the link if you're interested... kzbin.info/aero/PLXTH0DstRDc6Xs1hNvrTkO00L4xt0vb4a ...I crash my grandpa's brand new plane due to my aileron stabilization being the wrong direction. This was more than a little frustrating.

[@genes6703]

Brian, I'm so frustrated with this damn hobby. I put the stab plus gyro in my plane. How come when I switched on the self leveling option, the plane porpoised (went up, down etc) and was basically out of control. Are the gains set too high and they are too sensitive? Another problem I had is I thought the plane was balanced because I balanced it. Apparently it wasn't balanced because when I hand tossed it, the thing went nose first into the ground. Do you have any vids on balancing a plane and fixing the weight of it. thanks for the help

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Yes, the porpoising is a result of too much gain. There is a MASTER GAIN, as well as individual axis gains. You have to get the gains for each axis worked out, then you can use a channel to control the master gain...Aux 3, if it's like my lemon-rx receivers...which is the same channel you use to turn on and off the auto leveling, I believe...

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I don't really have a lot of footage balancing planes. If it flies nose down into the ground, you are too nose heavy. Keep in mind, you are way better off being nose heavy, then tail heavy. Of course there's a limit to that too :) Don't get frustrated!!! You gotta give yourself a lot of grace, and you'll get it!!! This hobby takes lots of effort when you're first learning how to do these things, but once you get it figured out, you can keep building on the stuff you've already mastered. It gets a LOT easier. You can do it!

[@genes6703]

I turn the gains down when I'm in self leveling mode but the sticks lose the ability to control the ailerons. Is that normal? How come the gains affect the surface controls but only in self leveling mode.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I think you're gains might be flipping from stabilization to auto leveling mode. I don't have this Receiver, so I can't say for certain.

[@genes6703]

Thanks. Reason I asked cause I was looking at plane kits from twisted hobbies and I saw it there. Did you ever build a plane kit from twisted hobbies. They look fun to do but not sure how they are. Thanks

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Gene, I'm getting confused. Could I have you reply within the original comment, so I can have context of what we were talking about. I don't mean to make your life difficult, but I keep about 50 conversations going at once, and it's hard to remember it all :) Maybe just re-ask this question there, so I remember to answer you. Thanks in advance!

[@calixtogomestutoriais4334]

Hello I am in Brazil this at 320 and Styrofoam or deprom

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

It is foam, but I don't know for sure which type of foam, but it is not depron. I will eventually build a depron airliner, but I don't have the patience for it right now. Here's a link to the plane at RC-Castle... www.rc-castle.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=5724&search=supreme+hobbies&page=2 Thanks for the question and thanks for watching!

[@g6wings]

ROCKET SCIENCE!!! How to mount the Lemon on its side - Luv it!! Suppose the mfg doesn't even know you can do that!? LOL* way t go Brian!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks! It was fun to get it on the DX8, I basically used up all my mixes, if I recall - LOL, one of the advantages of the DX18!!!

[@emeriodiaz5222]

Hi Brian_ I know this is an old post of yours, but I would appreciate your take on the Lemon Stab. Plus 7 channel RX. Do you trust its signal strength and its quality to put on a plane... Say, an FMS Skytrainer 182. I just bought one, it looks nice and compact, but i wouldn't like to lose a plane due to a stabilizer. Appreciate your feedback, thanks_ emerio

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Emerio Diaz I love my Lemon-RX stabilizers. They have been super reliable in my experience. If you're concerned, which I don't think you need to be with a standard 7channel with stabilization and dual diversity antenna...you could get the one with a single antenna and a satellite reciever, thus you'd have an even larger spread between your antennas. P.S. I just answered a question yesterday about this too, but as for the "PLUS" part of the Lemon-RX - I don't personally think the PLUS adds much, since the "auto-leveling" doesn't seem the work well. The stabilizer works fine, as with the "non-PLUS" version, but you'll have to wait about 2-5 seconds for the receiver to initiate at power up...which I found annoying, but not a deal breaker. I'd save the $2 or so premium on the price, and go with the non-PLUS 7ch with stabilizer.

[@emeriodiaz5222]

Thanks much Brian... really appreciate it. BTW_you may want to check this out. Apparently, Motion RC has worked up a deal with Lemon-RX/stabilizer, which is now rebranded for Motion as Admiral. According to Motion, this Admiral has other improvements to the original Lemon unit. Thought you may want to know this.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I thought they might have been Lemon-RX receivers, but don't be fooled, these "cases" are also used by a couple other manufacturers too. If the have in fact struck a deal, that'd be GREAT! Love lemon-rx & Motion-RC!

[@earlallen6628]

Is one better than the other,

[@nhutquang665]

How much it is, very interestion .

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

The lemon-RX receiver was $24.80 + $3.99 = $28.79 shipped!!! www.lemon-rx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=131 The plane was $229.00 + about $60 shipped from Hong Kong, China to Iowa, USA www.rc-castle.com/index.php?route=product/product&manufacturer_id=82&product_id=5724&page=2 I love BOTH products!

[@chriswoods8812]

bought it! i forgot to get it the first time when i got the plane

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Great! Don't forget that AUX2 is accessible by plugging into the bind plug...

[@hurricane0317]

His wife puts up with a lot! I would hand over the camera and let him do it himself...

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Yes she does. She is a saint.

[@dillonjones978]

No I didn’t want the plus... it’s the same as yours just the top pin and I went with satellite instead of diversity.

[@dillonjones978]

I just contacted headsup hobby where I purchased my ESC and they said the 30amp with switch mode BEC should be plenty with the 6... 9 gram digital servos and the lemon. I think I’m at the end of my limited knowledge and I’m going to return and purchase another. Knowing my luck I got the one lemon out of 1 million units. LOL. Did you get a chance to check out the two videos? Thanks again

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I'm sorry, didn't know they were there?!?!?? Watching NOW

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I agree with Heads up...a normal 5VDC @ 3Amps would be okay to run all that stuff, but you would see a VERY different symptom from a true brown out...caused by insufficient power from the BEC.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Watched and commented on both (also subbed too fyi...I don't have my subs public, as you know, so you won't see me on the list)

[@josephchrisman8453]

Please show with a gas engine flying

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I'm not 100% certain that the Lemon-Rx gear is designed to work with nitro engines...but someday, when I get one, I might try it out for you. Thanks Joseph

[@calixtogomestutoriais4334]

Airbus