Succeeding as an introvert, building zero-to-one, and PM’ing your career like a product | Deb Liu

[@chaochaozuo7846]

this episode is so amazing. As an ambitious female, Asian, introverted product leader (who for first time in my life just did the "crazy" thing of quitting my job to explore what I REALLY want to do) who failed a lot, and still struggles, the message from Deb is refreshing and gives me so much hope.

[@Brazbrah]

This was a great podcast, but I do find it somewhat ironic that some of the core ideas Deb outlines are things she herself didn't intentionally follow. Like talking about "PM'ing your career" while describing how many of the key early roles she landed through semi-random encounters and phone calls leading to job offers. Or saying that the person you marry is so important to your career while meeting and marrying her husband before the age of 20 - to me that sounds less of a choice and more of a lucky hand. Dating in your 20s and 30s is much more challenging and different experience, compared to finding a great person on the second attempt and sticking with them for life imo (still so pleased that it's working for Deb ofc!!)

[@yomeich]

This is a fantastic episode. Lenny has been on a hot streak over the past 2-3 weeks with great guests sharing solid and direct guidance on various key topics.

[@beingihuoma]

I felt seen as an introverted PM listening to Deb. Thanks a bunch, Lenny, for this episode and I promise Deb that I will write more and speak more about my work.

[@palray2025]

Thank you Lenny! You've no idea how much value you bring through these guests and these conversations!!! Keep doing the good work!! 🙌🙌🙌

[@ArunKumar-jk5pq]

She is one of the best leaders I have heard coaching people asynchronously! Amazing..

[@DanielleNewnham]

I am SO glad you had Deb on - she's fantastic and has so many wonderful lessons to share.

[@genehaba2498]

I have been following Deb for a couple years now. I receive her newsletter. So, her visit to Lenny's confirmed my hunch in her abilities. I appreciated her comments on zero-to-one and working on innovative products. Something from nothing.

[@sridhardp479]

Awesome episode Lenny with Deb. Thanks, Deb for sharing those insights. I have asked everyone in my network to listen to this one.

[@anitabubna9901]

The timing of this podcast was perfect as if an answer to several questions . It changed my perspective on self promotion, dealing with feedback, magic of sharing your thoughts via writing just once a month, how to overcome inertia by just doing it, offering help by saying what is one thing I can do for you this week, going back to the people you heard initially and sharing feedback with them, importance of building resilience, how less scrutiny fuels creativity. Where I had a difference was on having a 5 year plan. I think this sounds good in theory but in reality, in my view what really works best is to be self aware to be able to do the best one can with the present opportunity and just focus on the next step and iterate. We know what was right step in hind sight only. Thanks a ton for sharing ..this will help a lot of people.

[@kiki871204]

Such an amazing episode! Took so much notes along the way. Loved the advices Deb shared and I could really feel her enthusiasm, very much inspired. And also big thanks to Lenny for making this happen!

[@Well_Earned_Siesta]

Why are there so many books and podcast episodes about "overcoming" introversion? As if being an extrovert is some kind of fireball-mushroom for all situations in work and life.

[@ChristieVanriel]

😢😮😮please don’t say love to me again please don’t ever say it like that unless you actually know how to love 💕

[@ChristieVanriel]

😢😢😢😢😢 I hope 🤞 with all my heart that I matter someday

[@byAlexfromua]

That was an amazing one. Thank you 🙏🏼

[@Hamyhamster24]

ive been faking my way to being senior designer with the help of youtube podcasts like this 😆

[@Bloobloo87]

This take was relevant 5 years ago. The new generation of great product leaders and founders have moved on and actually EMBRACE introverted product people, authenticity and neurodiversity. A lot of what came through as advice in this interview is actually hurting the introvert brand.

[@CherryCokewithLime]

I wish she'd stop speaking in platitudes. 'I took the job I had and made it into the job I wanted'- Care to elaborate girl? But don't want to be overly negative - rest of this is really amazing and timely.

[@DJHeroSNL]

Requires a good manager who is willing to budge for it! Easier said than done..

[@anushakrishnan]

So insightful, women leaders like her are doing gods work coaching other people.

[@jiachen1078]

In our team, instead of calling it self promotion, we are calling it over communicate

[@newlearnings1067]

100k 🎉🎉🚀🚀🚀

[@haila1218]

Resonated with this episode a lot as an introvert ❤

[@dishankshah5080]

I just noticed you reach to the milestone of 100k🎊🎊

[@gaurangbeli1348]

great episode would have loved some more depth into the pm ing your career like a product section

[@softwarekabaapno1]

She looks like an extrovert to me!

[@jiachen1078]

Instead of fall in love with the problem, maybe also fall in love with the game.

[@m389nkfpe03]

Very typical career path. Engineering -> consulting -> Stanford MBA -> got lucky by joining PayPal etc. Nothing to learn here just someone from a privileged education with family money going through the usual steps to get to CEO.