Lenovo Legion 5 vs ASUS TUF A15 (2022) Comparison

[@JarrodsTech]

Which laptop would you pick? 👀 check current prices and deals below 👇 ASUS TUF A15: geni.us/RSrxbsX Lenovo Legion 5: geni.us/wK1Ke Some people getting real mad about the conclusion lol. Is the TUF better in every way? No, definitely not. Do they basically perform the same in games with the TUF being less money, yeah, which I'd argue is what most people care about. If you want to pay extra for some of the extras that the Legion offers then by all means go ahead.

[@oxxysaurus]

Might want to link to sites that dont have a certificate issue. Makes it look dodgy.

[@JarrodsTech]

@@oxxysaurus Not sure what you mean, Genius itself and where I am linking (bestbuy and newegg) look valid to me.

[@emrik2s]

Well if you spec a lower end Legion, or maybe even Ideapad Gaming. Then the comparison would be more fair. Otherwise it's like... Don't buy a Lexus, Buy a Hyundai. Of course a Hyundai is going to be more economical. Duh. It would be more fair to compare Toyota to Hyundai, or Genesis to Lexus, that's all.

[@jethalal6162]

Is tuf f15 with i7 and rtx 3070 2022 version better than legion 5 i7 12th gen rtx 3060

[@lancebongon3986]

I’d go with Asus as its a Taiwanese based company. Although not every part is from Taiwan. I’d rather support Taiwan’s economy.

[@alun1038]

I think Legion’s extras in thermals, display quality, keyboard, ports, faster ssd, dual channel ram, and aesthetics are worth the extra $100 or $200. If you don’t really care about all that then the A15 is already a solid option.

[@MegaDRKSTR]

I love the reliability of lenovo after using thinkpads and I don't think I will buy anything else other than lenovo

[@coffee-vz1nr]

I care about u 🥵

[@jackmaks]

Aesthetics? Legion 5 this year looks like my grandpa's old boxy Toyota

[@MegaDRKSTR]

@@jackmaks I'm too poor to care about design. But give a choice will take the less "designed" one than the more aesthetic choice. The more design elements a thing has the sooner it starts looking dated

[@SukoSeiti]

Also, Lenovo's customer service in my experience is the best one for laptops.

[@marvinparker754]

Ah yes,yet another episode of I can't afford

[@aborkmga1]

One day brother one day

[@mohamedaityoussef9965]

Work

[@Adamantine3000]

Yeah but 2k resolution is 2k….

[@danmartin5134]

@@mohamedaityoussef9965 agree I'll be Worth it

[@mrosa7515]

Thats me for 6 years ago til 4 months before

[@vncube1]

Never would I have imagined that the TUF could be competitive with the Legion

[@allstones1462]

I am using the 2021 version, doesnt seem that bad. Well after all they are ASUS

[@antoinedutheil7280]

Damn me neither

[@razor1818]

Same here.

[@mivavian]

Internals are sub par though, the TUF is only using heat pipes, while the legion has an added heat spreader

[@GuyOnTheInternet53]

I have a 2022 tuf dash f15, and honestly it plays anything. Just shows that comparing gaming laptops today just doesn’t make sense for an average gamer. They’re all good

[@EdGeyy]

Sorry - what? You showed me 14 minutes of the Legion trashing the A15 in multiple key areas, then said "in more cases than not, the TUFF A15 was the better laptop". You need to watch your own video...

[@MultiSciGeek]

After researching the whole day I narrowed it down to these two laptops. And after watching this video I ironically like the Legion 5 much better! Like damn the screen is just so beautiful!

[@rehanfarooqui2071]

How’s your laptop life? :)

[@calphak7389]

Did your research include Lenovo ideapad gaming 3? How does that compare

[@hnfnamia6605]

@@calphak7389ideapad is a lighter version

[@therealeheren]

Hey Jarrod! Can you make a tier list of the laptops you reviewed after the latest tier list so it would make your work easier and it can be a guide for us before the black friday?

[@JarrodsTech]

Coming next week!

[@alexmaclean6132]

Yeah I bought the Tuf two years ago. Its a piece of junk that started crapping out 1.5 years in, the repair shop said 'yeah we get a lot of these, you have a warranty?' No it expired around the time it started to die. Cheap plastic, made to look 'Tuf'

[@joelconolly5574]

I'd get the TUF just for the weight alone. I can notice just how heavy things get in the long run. So as much as I like the design of the Legion, I'd get the TUF for an overall portability and performance.

[@leftifornian2066]

the tuf aint toff, get the legion

[@joelconolly5574]

@@leftifornian2066 I'm good.

[@williamlisbourne5294]

Legion 7 Gen 7, slim but same build quality and one less ubs c or a port

[@nikolagvozdenovic940]

Just go to the gym if you feel under 400g of difference lol

[@joelconolly5574]

@@nikolagvozdenovic940 not worth it for my back.

[@chrisbullock6477]

I'll actually be getting the Legion 7 all AMD Advantage version with the 6850XT GPU and 6900HX which no one seems to be covering. Its incredibly well build with 16:10 screen. It'll be a great portable desktop replacement.

[@fredprimus7755]

I also want to know this lenovo legion 7 amd advantage variant before i decide to purchase

[@trovitrojan7337]

I’ve bought the A15 , and it’s rlly good too , both r good

[@channelschannel]

Thanks for very informative comparison. I thought legion 5 was better one, but it seems tuf improved in the last couple of years

[@adamproctor9315]

I paid $1220 here in Dubai for a new ASUS TUF with 12650H and a 3070TI, quite happy I found it in the Black Friday sales, seems to be beating both of these options which are slightly cheaper.

[@y4mani]

لابتوب من سوق الجمعة 😂

[@scaven3440]

I'm typing this from my Lenovo Legion and to be honest... couldn't be happier with it. Lenovo sales let me bought it really cheap, even cheaper than the TUF. If you don't mind paying a little bit more in most scenarios... I would go with the Lenovo due to the overall build quality. Of course it always depends on the sales in your area, TUF has become much better this year, so don't be afraid to go for it if the price is good. Btw, great video as usual, Jarrod.

[@_TrueDesire_]

i even bought the extended warranty for cheap in the Legion app when they had a sale for my spare Legion 5 with 5600H and rtx 3060. Amazing laptop for its price imo.

[@blackmanwhitesuit]

I'm typing this from my ASUS TUF and I've been enjoying it 😅. The sale on it put it within a reasonable price range around the holiday. It's been a workhorse for me. Different strokes, I guess.

[@mohammedomar1870]

How is the fan noise on lenovo?

[@scaven3440]

The fan noise is ok. Like every gaming laptop will be noisy in performance mode, but it's not like you're having an airplane landing un your desktop lol. The good thing is that the lenovo software let's you change the fan levels and the performance modes really easy.

[@mohammedomar1870]

@@scaven3440 do you recommend this laptop to a college student i mean how long does the battery last on normal use? - do the screen wobble while typing ? And is it annoying? -and how is the temp??does it get warm and annoying on normal use??

[@mohammadnazrimohdarsid176]

In my experience, for those may thought Asus TUF A15 2022 may support PCIE 4.0 , yes i can confirm with it because im already test it using 1Tb Kingston Fury Renegade 4.0 nvme ssd, the result i get are both up to 7Gb/s write and read speed, just sharing my experience because in my region, the official website only mention PCIE 3.0 or any from other website didnt mention any of this so im testing with my own, thank you

[@fariszafri8763]

How do u like this asus tuf a15? Is it great or there are better option?

[@mohammadnazrimohdarsid176]

​​@@fariszafri8763 There are few factor need to be considered : 1) what u need on you laptop? -need for productivity? need for professional use? for gaming? this will influence alot in your decision to buy a laptop 2) price -price can be different by time, location and availability. for an example, by the time i need a laptop based on my need, after i filter alot of laptop based on the price and availability at that time in my research, i found this laptop is the best i can get. I know some of people can say hey this model is better bla.. bla.. bla.. and that. Honestly, im respect all of those opinion but it all come down back to the point of price, availability and the location where you can get the laptop where all of this factors can be different from time to time. 3) budget - this one may sound common but yah its important to buy anything based on our own pocket. In conclusion, I'm satisfied with this TUF A15 2022 for gaming, productivity and a lot of stuff im doing for my work. it was GREAT. In my personal opinion by this time im writing this comment, at the same price of this tuf a15 2022 you may can get rtx3070 or rtx3080 from laptop 2020 or 2021 laptop. If your target for just gaming la bcs this is more than great for gaming :) if you need more than just gaming u may can considered back and use the tips im already given above. Thank you for your time reading this comment. Have a great day. p/s : im recommend you watch @JarrodsTech bcs he explained so much details other than just gaming and he help me alot for my making decision for buying a great laptop. Cheers 🙌✨🎉

[@emrik2s]

Can't believe the thumbnail bait. skipping thru the video the only + to Tuf was better battery and better pricing. Yet you would suggest people to buy a 1080p laptop in 2022/2023? Kinda drastic to title the thumbnail 'buy this, not this'. Love the video content, just not the thumbnail bait.

[@BenjieTS]

Good review as always. Legion still has my vote mainly due to the port locations. Still very happy with my Legion 5 2021.

[@itskrissymarcias]

Thank you! This is the option I’m going for 😩🙌🏽

[@ritvijpant]

Me too..legion 5 pro is the best gaming laptop 😂 ..I have white strig ray version of 2021. ☺️👍

[@_Chris390]

The Legion wins in every way in this video’s comparison, except being a tiny bit larger, 350g heavier, and slower on battery power. It’s clearly the better laptop.

[@scoobiedoo911]

Legion 5 2021 or tuf 2022 all similiar specs.

[@-mystic-93]

They moved the headphone jack to the right side for the 2022 model which is a huge downgrade in my opinion

[@viciousvinyl4649]

I picked up the Asus tuf a15 Ryzen 7 6800 RTX 3070 for 1299 cad a couple months back and I couldn’t be happier with the performance. Asus really stepped up their game for the 2022/2023 models. For a budget machine it exceeds almost all of my needs gaming wise. Great reviews as always

[@chtouseeq1132]

Where did you buy that?

[@viciousvinyl4649]

@@chtouseeq1132 Canada computers

[@viciousvinyl4649]

It’s 1399$ now I believe CAD

[@iceorangutan]

​@@viciousvinyl4649 the prices Increases for the same model?

[@mikaelbiilmann6826]

I bought the model with the 3060 but with the 1440p, 165 Hz screen. It was awesome, but died recently during normal use. Am now shipping it and hoping for a MB swap, but after having watched some horror stories on YT, I don't have high hopes about ASUS helping me at all! Military grade chassis? What a joke. My older 2020 A15's chassis is sturdier!

[@d.oconnor4047]

I would still get the legion. The build quality is better, the screen is better and the port selection is better.

[@adamarz9248]

Id say the quality of the build, the dongles and the customer service that comes with the Legion is much more worth it.

[@emrik2s]

Specs are better too, for the price difference it's a no brainer. Not sure why he suggested people to buy Tuf. They are completely different class of machines IMO. Of course one is going to be cheaper. Buy cheaper is a good suggestion only if machines are on par. These 2 are not.

[@kingbaboon1145]

@@emrik2s its called selling out

[@Caarajack]

It’s fair to suggest the one that offers best bang for the buck but with laptops you stick with the decisions that the brand has made which rarely can be mended by the end user. In that case I’d still choose Lenovo over Asus because it’s a better machine as a whole in daily use even if it’d cost a hundred bucks or equivalent more.

[@PRuDislav]

yup over thea years have really abd experience with asuses , and good ones with lenovos

[@Fieskmask]

I bought a Lenovo Legion 5 Pro with 12700H, 3070, DDR5 with 165hz with G-sync. I feel I took the right one, was unsure when I had A17 with 3070Ti as an option but came down to the advantages of Lenovo. Suppose I open it tomorrow and enjoy it :D

[@nattochiiin8939]

My God I was looking for a good comparison video just recently! Perfect timing!!

[@sesshomarudogdemon7794]

Don't get the Legion, after I got mine it kept crashing consistently. I thought I could fix it but after researching everywhere there was very little success. I reset and changed the bios as suggested and updated the drivers and had fresh installs, moved the C drive to a new SSD but it still kept crashing, It has been like this for 3 years now. Save yourself the trouble and get a gaming laptop from a used market so you don't have to pay the premium price or research the issues for the laptop you want. Worst case get a cheap laptop and an external Gpu or budget gaming Desktop. There is also cloud gaming by Nvidia too but this is all your choice, hope this helped.

[@rxmanhdc]

Bought my son the Legion 5 pro Jarrod recommended last year. It has been the best laptop purchase I have made and my son loves it. Thank you Jarrod

[@allmonor]

Just bought my Legion 5 with a 12700h, rtx3060 and the wqhd screen for just 1080€, very hyped for it to arrive. So much compute power in such a form factor is crazy. Its almost as fast as my desktop. Will be using it for CAD and occasional gaming, and needed something to move around with me, so i think this is the best deal i could have made.

[@jokergotham1989]

Where did you find it?

[@wjofre1]

@@allmonor I got mine delivered yesterday. It's a little beast. The build quality is fantastic too.

[@kdkenofnfk1341]

Bought a 2021 5800h rtx3060 for 850 with spiderman

[@jayopnl]

Niceee, I got the Legion 5 with 6800U and 3070TI!

[@deathtoinfidelsdeusvult2184]

let me guess, your desktop is a 2060?

[@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams]

Bought the 2022 Legion 5i with RTX 3060/12700H a few weeks ago. No regrets, it's the nicest laptop I've ever owned. But I've always loved ASUS and I'm glad to see they've improved the TUF lineup this year. I still have my 2019 ASUS TUF, it was a lower end model and I've used the hell out of it but it's been quite reliable over the last 3 years.

[@danmartin5134]

True true finally the Asus budget gaming laptop got some love 💕

[@FurbyPurrson]

how much was the cost for your purchase ?

[@danmartin5134]

@@FurbyPurrson me? 800$ I'm not from US where the deal is heavenly great. It has Intel i5 10300H and GTX 1650. But overall that's a really great purchase the build quality and thermals they also have higher variant

[@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams]

@jimmy stewart Taxes on computer goods are very high in my country. I bought my Legion 5i for a little over 1800 dollars new but I got my money's worth. My ASUS TUF that has a 1650/3550H I bought for 900 dollars in 2019. I also bought an Acer Nitro 5 with a 3060/10300H earlier this year for 1200 dollars. The less said about that one the better, lol

[@FurbyPurrson]

@@danmartin5134 yeah me too. (Not living in usa). I was thinking about buying lenovo legion 5 2020 model but seems like 2022 model prices are closer to that too.

[@PatWendorf]

I'm on my second A15 and love it. It's nice to see the quality improving like this. I'll hold off until the 7000/8000 series before I upgrade, the 4900H is fast enough as it is.

[@potatochalbro]

I shortly had the A17 with 4800H, I loved everything about it except ports being on the side and I hated the fan noise. So I switched to Legion. Build quality isn't great, plastics are cheap and far from high quality like with Asus Tuf, but at least the ports are on the back and fan noise is okay.

[@dragonalfaata]

I have one with 4800h. I plan to hold it for as long as possible (at least 3 more years). Maybe I'll eventually replace the battery and the fans (or just properly clean the fans instead of replacing them). Already swapped the wifi card withing the first 6 months. Damn all the OEMs that use wifi cards from realtek and mediatek. Intel is the way to go

[@josephj6521]

Comparing prices between both, I found them to be around the same price or up to around AUD $200-$300 difference. The large retailers had the highest prices. Better prices direct via the manufacturer or online. For the added ports, quality, etc of the Lenovo, the choice isn’t difficult.

[@boonmercado5114]

Have you bought one and where in au?

[@AnNatie]

I'm in Aus and cant find any Legion 5 close to the tuff in price. Everywhere is at least a $500 Aud difference.

[@bakreson]

I just ordered the legion, paired with specs, rtx3060. Ryzen 5600h, 16gb ram, 512 ssd, 1080p screen 165 hertz for only 835€, while with rtx 3050 but better cpu was a lot more expensive. All other laptops who had rtx3060 had a price of over 1050€. Pretty good deal.

[@tanghho]

I had a lenovo and I couldnt even upgrade the memory and then I told myself id never buy another lenovo product.

[@avinashb.6892]

Why is no one talking about battery performance? TUF looks much better here imo.

[@babapawan62]

I don't know about ASUS but I have a great experience with the All Damage Protection (ADP) warranty from Lenovo. Thumbs up, hats off.

[@creative-obsession]

This is AMAZING!! These are literally the 2 laptops I have been considering getting! In my area the TUF A15 is $250 cheaper, and with a baby on the way I could put the extra cash to good use. ASUS TUF A15, I choose you!! 🥳

[@swapnilgohil7280]

Congrats on the baby

[@Joker-no1fz]

enjoy the broken hinge after 2 years. there hinges are terrible.

[@creative-obsession]

@@Joker-no1fz Thanks, I had no idea! From asking people I know personally who own an A15, they all said they had no issues with the laptop after 3+ years. Did you have an A15 with bad hinges? So are you saying it is better to pay +$250 dollars more for better hinges?

[@creative-obsession]

@@swapnilgohil7280 Thank you 😁

[@Joker-no1fz]

@@creative-obsession google it there is videos. maybe they fixed it. i will never know i'm never buying asus laptops again. id get the legion 5 pro its all metal so it will probably never break. dunno why jarrod recommending tuf it lost in a lot of his comparisons or had a draw. you can get legion 5 pro full warranty full power 3070 for $1300 on ebay from a distributors ebay account.

[@BXbomber718]

Hey Jarrod. Shouldn't the TUF series be compared to the IdeaPad gaming series? The Legion series is more akin to the ROG series. It seems like an unfair fight but I'm assuming you made this comparison based on what you had in your inventory. Nonetheless, would you consider reviewing the new IdeaPad gaming series?

[@JarrodsTech]

Honestly I don't really pay attention to what companies are doing in terms of 'series' of laptops, I care about price point for the specs available. Also this would demolish the IdeaPad (see my ranking video next week) so there would be no point doing that comparison. I've already got a review of this year's IdeaPad Gaming 3i up

[@BXbomber718]

@@JarrodsTech Makes sense. Thanks for the reply.

[@Mr.Chiranjibi]

I don't know why people just forget about screen color coverage. That's what you are going to be looking at when you open the laptop. 100% srgb is day and night better than 62.5% srgb. I would compromise perfermance over display panel.

[@dontaskwhatmyname9002]

i own the legion 5 6th gen , its pretty nice but the only regret i have is not considering the weight, Legion 5 weight is very heavy , carrying it in my backpack hurt my back in the long run

[@damiangrabowski2104]

Go to gym

[@dontaskwhatmyname9002]

@@damiangrabowski2104 well i m already working 9-5 and i just wanna use the extra time to do something i enjoy. gym is just not it for me. And its been 10 month since this video, but yeah i sold the laptop. and bought a think pad because it much easier to carry around. for my own use i just bought a 4070 desktop instead. honestly i just priories weight in a laptop since i travel a lot using it.

[@randyespoda1603]

Meh. We often do hikes with a backpack of about 25-30 pounds on our back all day long for multiple days. That is what makes your back hurt after a while, not a 6 pound laptop and a 1.5 pound brick. That's like less than 4 kilos, definitely doable to carry in a backpack.

[@Anarcho-harambeism]

I bet your not using a bag right or don't know how to properly space the weight. Or have a suck ass backpack. I've rucked with 40kg for miles with no issues

[@Behdad47]

So it seems that TUF A15 is finally catching up to the competition. Nice.

[@Solidinius_Snake]

About legion 5. If you're about to buy it, just remember: most of them have the game problem: due to poor thermal pads some of which are not thick enough, 1-2 VRAM chips got to work without proper cooling, and eventually burn out in a year or two. So it's a MUST to bring it to a service and replace the stock thermal pads. And when I say it's a must I really mean it. I've seen exactly the same problem in 5 out of 5 legions. Different shipments, different complectations, same fundamental problem

[@jaydenhayden8592]

you have had five legion 5 (2022) notebooks?! or older versions? they also changed the cooling version from version to version. Interesting to read it hear for the first time and you claim to have it had 5 times? can you elaborate which models you actually had?

[@Solidinius_Snake]

@@jaydenhayden8592 2022 lineup. We bought a few for our company. Great laptops for the price, but the problem is there

[@jaydenhayden8592]

@@Solidinius_Snake Ty. I will check mine if i buy one. Will search for other reports.

[@alvinyan1346]

Does this affect the legion pro as well?

[@Solidinius_Snake]

@@alvinyan1346 I don't know. I only know that Legion 7 laptops have thermal gel instead of thermal pads, so there's no way they could have such problem

[@historyandfacts5422]

Ordered the tuf f15 2022 with rtx 3070 Intel core i7 12650h for only 1200$ i can't wait to get it

[@muneeb-khan]

Are you planning on making a video on the AMD advantage Lenovo slim 7 gen 7? Seems like a really interesting machine from early reviews and is priced pretty well. I’m sure your schedule is packed already, but just curious.

[@backers0416]

I'd still pick legion over the tuf. Lower overall temps can help you prolong the life span of your laptop.

[@PrototypeElucidator]

Would be great if you can compare the top spec screen of the TUF with QHD165hz and 100% p3 thats better than legions 100%srgb but loses out of hdr and 16:10

[@oaklme]

Hdr on lcd screen is still undercooked i have legion 5 pro and hdr is always turned off

[@MohaOfficial]

is this good specs for "Lenovo - Legion 5 - Gaming Laptop - AMD Ryzen 7 5800H - 16GB RAM - 512GB Storage - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050Ti" $1000

[@souvikmondal3591]

Legion is more of a competitor to ROG rather than tuf . Would love to see a comparison of that!

[@apiis]

indeed. the tuf is roughly on par with just the ideapad gaming.

[@emrik2s]

Exactly, he should be comparing Tuf to Ideapad Gaming series.

[@Tenchi707]

If Legion can't even beat TUF how tf is it gonna beat ROG

[@dddfault]

Thanks to Jarrod for making all of these comparison videos. Now I have my own Lenovo Legion 5 laptop, which is the best option that I get on my region.

[@ghost141taskfores]

good job 👏 where is the bloody ranking video i mean like its black friday offeres so we wanna purshes our laptops and get the most powerful one with our muney

[@JarrodsTech]

Coming up on Wednesday.

[@kostasdockus9064]

Hi mate Recently ordered A15 2023 with 7940hs and a RTX 4070 Should clear things easily for 1080p? I look at it as an advantage in the competitive gaming, 144hz is enough and 4070 should smash 1080p on ultra 100fps+ native

[@JarrodsTech]

Shouldn't have any issues. Whether it can get to 100fps+ will depend on what you're playing.

[@AGATH0R]

Jarrod your my main guy for laptop reviews and guess what, I bought the tuf 15 2022 because it looked so good for the price and looks like you confirmed my purchase!

[@ivanmillan7641]

I only care about the temp, between legión 5, Idealpad gaming 3 and Tuf a15 whicj is better?

[@Losowy]

Def legion

[@GabeAllz57]

Jarrod this is the third time I’ve bought the Lenovo legion 5 because of your videos my bank account can’t take a 4th one dear god

[@riichobamin7612]

What are the specs of all of your Legions ?

[@GabeAllz57]

@@riichobamin7612 I got the 2 3060’s and one of the amd ryzen 5500 ones

[@MyTechTaste]

I bought an Asus tuf f15 2022 laptop with intel i7, rtx 3070, and 1080p 300hz screen a few weeks ago. The performance is very good!!

[@100uschallenge3]

What about temps though

[@MyTechTaste]

@@100uschallenge3 using turbo mode, i got around 70°c- 80 °c 😁

[@raj121746]

Good to see acer with helios and asus with tuf stepping up their game

[@backtoussr3332]

For more honest testing, it was possible to put two sticks of RAM in TUF from Legion

[@JarrodsTech]

Not going to lie, I couldn't be bothered re-running the tests that way. I am just using data that we collected from the review videos here, I don't want to spend another week just to do that when the difference in most cases would be minor and not enough to change the conclusion.

[@riklaunim]

Asus was available since like early 2022 while Lenovo is showing up now, around 2 months before CES where new shiny things get announced and hype train will start rolling ;) By that time both get some discount and prepare for next gen, which likely Asus will again have exclusivity on some chips.

[@Gamer4lyfe00]

I just received my legion 5 pro ryzen 7 rtx 3070 for $1269 and I'm totally satisfied with it👍🏼

[@Beefy-Tech]

We got the 1440p 165hz + 2 8 gig sticks of ddr5 4800mhz ram Asus TUF A15. I wanted the previous legion 5i pro but we simply couldn't find it available in Romania, but luckily the version or the A15 we found was perfect.

[@YuiA-yi9xm]

Îl mai ai ?

[@nguyenvinhkhanh9345]

Since the last time i used the rog strix 2021 and it was dead during my project (mainboard dead), i didn't have a good feeling about ASUS products since then

[@pablosarmiento3767]

You are fr the best tech youtuber ever, thanks to you I understand so many concepts I didn't knew before allowing me to buy my first gaming laptop. Keep the good work!!!

[@vespo1960]

Lenovo Legion 5: i7-12700H + RTX3070 ASUS TUF Gaming A17: 6800H + RTX 3070 Ti same price which one would choose for pure gaming performance (1080p external monitor)

[@honestguy318]

As a visual artist I would definitely take legion 165 hz under consideration because of the 100% srgb screen.

[@thunderstorm3724]

So I got those laptops in 2024 for a price difference of about 60$ , which one is worth it?

[@Atticvs32]

@JarrodsTech Do you think the A15 witb 6800H and 3070 would be a better option than with 3060? (Assuming I found a good deal money wise) I'm conscious about thermal throttling becoming more of an issue even with my cooling pad with that and ultimately resulting in worse (or at least less consistent performance)

[@evencrackey]

3070 performs just slightly better but not really that noticeable as what Jarrod did last time when testing both gpus. So if we are talking about something of a good deal, money wise, then my personal choice would still be the 3060 over the 3070 (unless if it's a 3070ti then that gpu will outmatch the 3060). If you are only concern with performance then just go for a higher end 3080ti or 3090 instead.

[@zm_95]

What if I got a Legion 7 instead of a Legion 5? Which would be better in that case? TUF or Legion? Also, I once came across a video lonh app saying that we should not shut down our laptops but put them to sleep instead as shutting them down after use is bad for the laptop. What should I do? Shut down the laptop after use? Or put it to sleep?

[@denzelnalenz6252]

I never thought I'd see tuf going against legion so closely. I'd always heard that Tuf is in the range of the ideapad gaming while legion goes against ROG. Am I missing something or did things switch up this year?

[@Rhmtsky]

It's 2022 dude, tuf already on same page with rog. The only difference is, rog get high end gpu like 3080 while tuf just maxed out with 3070ti, oh and rog have some liquid metal too while tuf doesn't.

[@ricardoalcantaracampos4811]

@@Rhmtsky legion 5 has won this comparison, if you compare the asus with an idepad im sure they will get the same scores. after all 140w 3060 is pretty much the same in every model and brand.

[@alwandhafi6234]

@@Rhmtsky all rog series use metal liquid?

[@Rhmtsky]

@@alwandhafi6234 2021 onwards for sure

[@shanghai2058]

a lot of negative comments on the tuf. I have the A15 FA506NC-HN060W year 2024 and it is great i only do light games on it and use it for work but am very pleased with it

[@TheSilver005]

I would personally recommend legion 5 , being a owner of the two (older version of tuf fx504gm ) and right now a legion 5 2021 user the build quality and reliability of the legion is far better than tuf series.. It's true the tuf lasted 3 year for me but cost me 12.5% of the laptops value in repairs but asus service is super friendly and good.. now down one year with the legion had no over heating issue or any other problems that I had with my tuf during its time..

[@SuperNovaSky1]

Same here I had the asus tuf gaming fx504gm lasted exactly 4 years until the motherboard gave up. A few repairs along the way until then, definitely would not recommend it to anyone it's simply not worth it. Better buy lenovo legion or acer predator series.

[@LadyRiderc]

Lol, i just bought a a17 2022 Tuff. Comparing it with my earlier legion 17 inch Y920, which is a beast (heavy) to pick up it's so much lighter and smaller, and the legion had so much issues, multiple send backs, and then crashed the gpu after two years, and Lenovo just leaves you in the cold. I'm happy to have this one. Yes, a bit less (different) ports, but it's still much quieter, although i did see when checking the software it seems a bit warmer yes. I'll just use a cooler underneath, witch i also used with the legion.... Also my Asus has a 3070 gpu for the same price as that legion 5 you showed..... My first laptop was an Asus, and i really used it over it's limits without failing me, it has even dropped twice on the ground in my backpack. And it's still working. So i decided to go for Asus again. I hope it will serve me well as the previous one and not like the legion one

[@jimheston9127]

Go with the ASUS. My lenovo legion 5 died after a year and a half. I used to be a big lenovo fan but not now. Unacceptable. Surfed the net and I find I am not alone.

[@carlosmolina292]

I was going to buy a new legion and heard about this as well. Most likely due to Lenovo cheaping out on a certain component that can short the entire motherboard.

[@_rahulsharma_]

@@carlosmolina292 nah, there's 3 year warranty for legion, so he should be safe. And even asus laptops can go bad, you can search as much. We all know lenovo laptops sells more so obvio we will hear more lenovo problem than asus. Plus asus service is not that good iirc

[@DAIliganCycling]

I think you only got a bad unit. My Legion 5 (4800h,rtx 2060) is still serving me very well without issues.

[@aranighosh3945]

My Asus TUF F15 with a i7 12th gen and rtx 4060 died just after a year of use and end of the 1 year warranty. No brand can be trusted at this point. Just ensure that you have atleast a 3 year warranty.

[@dianaazeneth]

WOW! IM MUCH SURPRISED AT EVERY DETAIL THAT YOU EXPLAIN! THANK YOU!

[@CHMPro]

Legions design is superior by tons. They have top, dual sides and a clean design. Very good 👍🏻 👏

[@quangphung2069]

I just got the legion 5 ( 2022) 3 months ago Spec: Ryzen 7-6800h, RTX 3050, 8gb ram, 512gb ssd I also wonder between the TUF A15 and the Legion 5 they're both same specs but the legion is 100$ more than the TUF A15 I still get the legion though because of the 100% srgb screen its suitable for my work I think it worth the 100$ Thanks for reading my comment.

[@deadwhitedragon9751]

I got the 2020 TUF A15, and I've actually had a lot of issues related to the software. Within the first week of using it, I had 3 blue screens where the GPU would not work for a couple of hours afterwards (and then magically start working again, somehow), and I'm pretty sure it's due to the way it handles optimus

[@rupeshmurali2884]

thats the same exact problem i face

[@d.d1252]

i got on my lenovo legion 2 blue screens in the same dayfor no literal reason,and the laptop just restarted magicaly

[@Ash081284]

how is it now? I'm planning to buy one but mostly for video editing

[@rupeshmurali2884]

@@Ash081284 its fine now, my laptop doesnt create any issues. i would recommend for you to buy the 16 gb version or at least upgrade it.

[@deadwhitedragon9751]

@@Ash081284 My laptops actually been working really well recently, I've been having no issues for a while Just fyi for if you get it, disable fast startup (makes it sometimes load forever after shutdown) and set the graphics power mode to optimised in armory crate (it will sometimes glitch though and not change power mode (e.g. not launching game with gpu when plugged in), and then you'll have to manually change it to standard or power saving)

[@lmcvann]

Just a note, i recently bought a Legion 5 and they were not on sale, i contacted Lenovo from their website and they were happy to do a custom quote for me, i bought the intoel 7 12th gen and 3070TI and they sent a custom quote over which saved me £360 off website pricing, always worth contacting them, i had great service and a great deal

[@yellowflash511]

I recently got a Omen 16 2022 Advantage Edition laptop with 6650M and it's excellent. I was deciding between Omen 16 AE, Legion 5 6600M/3060 and TUF A15 3060 like in this video and ended up going for the Omen. Being the 2022 model it's the fastest with 6650M and it was somehow cheapest. Got it in Diwali sale for about 200 bucks cheaper than A15 and 400 bucks cheaper than the Legion 5. It's also got Smart Access Graphics which is basically auto MUX. Smartshift Max also works very well the GPU gets up to 130 watts of juice because of it while dGPUs top out at 115w on the Omen 16. Temps are great as well, GPU max 78 degrees and CPU max 86 degrees while gaming. I've played Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition and Dota 2 on it yet, even handles RT better than expected, was able to play Metro on 1080p Ultra preset with High RT and RT Reflections at about 70fps, without any sort of upscaling. Battery life is also great at around 8-9 hours. These AE laptops are quite amazing.

[@yellowflash511]

@@Nonameuser-md6vx it has 2 SSD slots ma man. And both are Gen 4.0, most laptops give Gen 3.0 on the second SSD.

[@ultimategohan1551]

Does your trackpad glitch or freeze up?

[@kstalerviunder4050]

Which lenovo legion 5 2022 with rtx 3060 better with i5 12500h or with ryzen 7 6800h? They have the same price

[@ACEGAMER120]

Just picked up my Legion 5 from the UPS pickup location about 30 minutes ago. Unfortunately on my way to work so will have to wait until tonight to set it up and try it out. Your review videos were an essential component in me settling on the Legion 5 rather than saving a few hundred bucks for cheaper options 🙂 The quality and quality control seemed to be better when comparing customer reviews and the thermals were generally better than its competitors in its price range

[@khyun125-o6j]

Legion 5 is a great laptop. You won't regret it on the long term.

[@bayuf995]

you see... i might've considered getting TUF if not for the trauma i bought TUF 4 years ago (i5 8th gen, 1050ti) and it has problem right off the box. It would stutter/ have mini freeze constantly even when you're just watching video, HDD problem (i've swapped to ssd), and bluescreen out of nowhere (still happening every now and then). I ended up going to the service center a lot in those 2 years warranty period (i think about 7 times). Glad to see them improve TUF over the years, but I would personally go with Legion. Mostly because of the trauma, but also I wouldnt say no to a better display!

[@TBJTales]

Hey Jarrod! Thanks to your site, I managed to catch that legion 5 pro with a 3070ti for $1399, a steal of a deal. Keep up the great work! Btw, I wanted to know if this was the version with the 165 to 240 hz Variable refresh rate. Do you think overclocking the refresh rate is a possibly for me if it isn't? I'm a competitive Valorant player at this time. Looking forward to hearing from you! :)

[@JarrodsTech]

Nice! Honestly not sure, if it is I would expect it to be listed on the specs - I can't say as I wasn't the one that added that deal, my partner manages the site. Not sure about display overclocking, it's not something I've ever looked into.

[@eekhead1]

It's the standard 165Hz refresh rate. :) I don't think any 165-240Hz refresh rate displays actually came out for the Legion 5(i) Pro/Legion 7(i) this year - even though Lenovo advertised that option from day 1. As for OC'ing your refresh rate, you may get 1-2 Hz before flickering or black screens if you're lucky.

[@TBJTales]

@@eekhead1 Thanks for the feedback! Maybe I'll just "make do" with the given 165 Hz. However will I cope? ;)

[@hassanaitben3li856]

Is the f15 better

[@owlmostdead9492]

Asus NEEDS to get rid of their keyboard font, it's incredibly ugly and jarring

[@AndyHOTlife]

I am surprised Jarrod doesn't think the difference in thermals is important. I bought the exact same A15 but with 3070 and 1440p in Summer, and I had to return it because it was literally burning my hands while playing Detroit Become Human, while in Idle it was so hot underneath that my table started to peel off.. Bad thermals never again!

[@JarrodsTech]

I don't really care about interal thermals as long as it's still performing well. I've never experienced a laptop be so hot I couldn't physically use it (and never had it effect the surface it's on). My reviews confirm this in the thermals section.

[@efrenarevalo2025]

Legion's thermal advantage is an instant win for me.

[@ivicamajmunskikreten9714]

thermal distribution, heat and fan noise are like 3 most important aspects and asus is known to be a stovetop with a turbine.

[@someonestolebigboi-imbigboi]

After 3-4 years of owning the asus tuf a15 (Also a smoker so consider the condition its in as the most damage one would have by now) The keyboard died on me and had to get a usb keyboard, the gpu fan specifically has begun to jam at high speeds which has haulted the ability to play games, can still watch youtube (currently in the works of replacing both fans and aplying new thermal paste, hope it solves that issue) and i have to use a mini fan i use in the summer to help the overall temp low As someone who got this laptop for his birthday and couldnt afford this on their own, its suprisingly cheap to source replacement parts and its overall a really good laptop for its price range Only downside i see is ram storage, 8gb just isnt enough for games these days but theres a second slot so you can add more should you decide to

[@itachillianen]

Great comparison, I was needing this vid as I was thinking on buying a new laptop this xmas. The short commings of the TUF are mostly neglectable since Ill be using external screen&keyboard&mouse anyway, at least my greatest worry would be the less quality, lower color gamut screen if I did not have the external one, and Ive never used a usc type-c in my life anyway, so having only 1 instead of 3 means nothing. I was just worried with the slower ssd Gen and the dual Ram, but thanks to your tests I can see it does not affect game performance, and actually the TUF got better GPU score. Additionaly, if I were to connect the laptop to ethernet, definitely the lenovo position is way better, but I dont even currently have an ethernet cable in my room, so another neglectable con. Just thank you so much for the review I was going insane trying to analyze these small difference in my head. On paper the TUF should be worst because of the ram and ssd gen, but its not! So now I will be relaxed when just choosing whatever is cheapest and available on my country.

[@justincoleman7856]

So I have last year's model of the Lenovo Legion 5 that I bought from a local woman who works in the medical field. Apparently she decided to buy it herself and didn't even know what to look for. Her husband bought her a more appropriate laptop designed for her business needs and I got a hefty discount on the laptop. Almost finished updated it on Win 10 & am way happier with it than my older Alienware (please no comments on the latter as I learned my lesson). I absolutely love my Legion 5 though!

[@JarrodsTech]

Sounds like a win all round!

[@arbitercs]

What scares me about the TUF laptops is knowing a friend who bought the 2021 model (3050) which had an issue where it wouldn't use the GPU more than 50%, basically making his fps twice as bad as what I would get on a 1050.

[@grahamherbert3612]

Your comment is nonsense. You clearly don't understand the basics of load and utilization.

[@erik6473]

Worse ports, warmer, worse performance, worse keyboard, worse color gamut and louder. Really, the only big plus of the TUF is the battery life. Yeah... I'll pass on the TUF.

[@johnvirginia7238]

I have the Legion s7 with 5800H and 3060. I love it. The build quality is awesome. And the screen is awesome for 1080 P. I know it’s a whole different model but I never considered Lenovo as a gaming brand until I bought this laptop since I’ve always been a desktop gamer and I’ve got a 4080 in that now. I play on this laptop more than the desktop now but I still need a desktop because this laptop only has two USB type C ports, and two USB type a on the back. But when I want to watch a movie in the living room with my wifey, we can be together while I’m playing my game instead of being by myself in the command center room

[@janlesko212]

You gotta be kidding me, I was just in the middle of deciding between those two. THANK YOU!

[@Kyxul]

Just bought a RTX 4060, Ryzen 7 7735HS ASUS TUF, havnt tried it yet, hopefully decent upgrade to my 5 year old gaming laptop.

[@MrFlankie]

Just as i changed my TUF A15 order to a ROG Strix G15 with the same specs, you come out with this great review on it, why Jarrod!! All jokes aside, thanks for your reviews as i´m really happy with my choice for the ROG G15. Especially the 1440p 165Hz screen is really nice! Keep up the great content Jarrod!

[@gameplayspark1821]

way way better temps and fan noise , you've made the right choice

[@MLWJ1993]

You're probably getting a much better display with the G15. If you really can't afford to spend more the A15 is okay, but there's clearly some corners cut to get there.

[@MrFlankie]

Main reason for me to change was indeed better temps, better sound system and overal finish and a better screen. What made it even better was they were priced exactly the same so it was basically a no brainer to go for the ROG G15.

[@MRsuave241]

Compared to hp victus is tuf a15 still better?

[@DodoGTA]

Still bad screen on the TUF 😢

[@PrototypeElucidator]

There is good screen version thats better colour coverage than Legion but jarrod dont have that model

[@darkphoienx8163]

You can get 2k dci P3 100% display 165 hz or 300hz 1080p 99-100% sRGB display

[@amruzaky4939]

@@PrototypeElucidator which TUF model is that? I've never seen them in market, I'm really stumped seeking all around of 100 srgb TUF, said even higher with 100% DCI. Is it on Asus official website only?

[@PrototypeElucidator]

@@amruzaky4939 both with tuf a15 and f15

[@amruzaky4939]

@@PrototypeElucidator I mean the specific variant there is Asus TUF FA506QM, FX507ZM, and so on.

[@mannysanosuke]

Hey Jarrod what do you think of the Asus TUF Dash 15.6 now with the i7-12650H cpu and the 3070 RTX? It's on sale at Best Buy for $999. Thanks.

[@samyt681]

legion is literally better

[@Uchida9]

What is the most powerful machine for this year? Is it acer helios or lenovo legion 5i Pro

[@ackerman8]

Maybe asus scar 15 is better than both

[@Uchida9]

I don't know its expensive but if I found it with lower price

[@ackerman8]

I believe that's msi vector gp66 is the best laptop for this year regardless of his battery life or maybe asus scar 15 is actually better but expensive What do you think is the best gaming laptop for this year ?

[@rehanfarooqui2071]

Thank you so much . Your videos are amazing z. After researching I’m split between these two

[@93SupaFly]

still rocking my 2021 legion 5 pro (intel 11800h x RTX 3070 x 64GB RAM x 5Tb ssd lol ). I just love Lenovo keyboard. I dont know how they do it, but the clicking and typing on it feels satisfying. The only thing I feel thats bit lacking about it is the 11800h is so toasty, i had to undervolt my 3070 to keep the cpu temps down while gaming. And I feel like the preinstalled Lenovo own win 11 is slower? I fresh install back WIn 10 on it, and just reinstall lenovo vantage app on it. I also feel the FN + Q doesnt do much. I leave it on Balance. so far everything works.

[@swixxVaL]

Hey Jarrod, can you help me choose which laptop I should get? ASUS TUF Gaming A15 with rtx 4060 and Ryzen 9 7940HS ($1000) or a Lenovo LOQ 15 with rtx 4050 and Ryzen 5 8645HS ($800). I dont know if it is worth it to sped an extra 200 for a 4060 and a cpu upgrade if they can get similar performance like 5-10% difference