Lenovo - The Last Practical Electronics Maker

In an era in which every laptop manufacturer is trying to make the laptops sleeker and un upgradeable, Lenovo is one of the only manufacturers who is still focused on producing practical electronics. And there’s no better example of a practical laptop than the Lenovo Thinkpad. The Thinkpad has a rich history dating back to IBM during the 1990s. To this day, the Thinkpad is the only laptop that’s authorized for use on the International Space Station. But, as soon as the laptop market started getting commoditized, IBM offloaded the Thinkpad to Lenovo which has since turned it into the practical workhorse machine that it is today. The Thinkpad isn’t concerned about being the sleekest or the thinnest. It’s only concerned about maximizing performance per dollar. This video explains the history of Lenovo and the Thinkpad and why so many people still love the Thinkpad.
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[@MrTimAway]

As much as i love my thinkpads, Lenovo has been moving in the wrong direction for a while now. RAM that's soldered in, internal batteries and so on. Even my HP Probook G9 has two upgradeable RAM banks which makes it more practical than the majority of thinkpads. Yes, i am aware that very few thinkpad models still have good upgrade options, but it's getting more and more rare.

[@megapet777]

weird. My lenovo had upgradable ram slots and I added another 8gb right away so now its 16gb

[@TheRVSN]

@@megapet777 See my ThinkPad T440s and note "Form Factor: Chip" of 4 GB soldered memory module. root@lenin:~# dmidecode -t 16 # dmidecode 3.3 Getting SMBIOS data from sysfs. SMBIOS 2.7 present. Handle 0x0005, DMI type 16, 23 bytes Physical Memory Array Location: System Board Or Motherboard Use: System Memory Error Correction Type: None Maximum Capacity: 12 GB Error Information Handle: Not Provided Number Of Devices: 2 root@lenin:~# dmidecode -t 17 # dmidecode 3.3 Getting SMBIOS data from sysfs. SMBIOS 2.7 present. Handle 0x0006, DMI type 17, 34 bytes Memory Device Array Handle: 0x0005 Error Information Handle: Not Provided Total Width: 64 bits Data Width: 64 bits Size: 4 GB Form Factor: Chip Set: None Locator: ChannelA Bank Locator: BANK 0 Type: DDR3 Type Detail: Synchronous Speed: 1600 MT/s Manufacturer: Elpida Serial Number: None Asset Tag: None Part Number: EDJ8416E6MB-GN-F Rank: Unknown Configured Memory Speed: 1600 MT/s Handle 0x0007, DMI type 17, 34 bytes Memory Device Array Handle: 0x0005 Error Information Handle: Not Provided Total Width: 8 bits Data Width: 8 bits Size: 8 GB Form Factor: SODIMM Set: None Locator: ChannelB-DIMM0 Bank Locator: BANK 2 Type: DDR3 Type Detail: Synchronous Speed: 1600 MT/s Manufacturer: 0112 Serial Number: 01123383 Asset Tag: None Part Number: 78.C2GCZ.B730C Rank: Unknown Configured Memory Speed: 1600 MT/s root@lenin:~#

[@SweBeach2023]

As long as the laptop can charge using USB C it's just easier to bring a power bank than bringing an extra laptop battery.

[@Falsechicken]

Yeah.... when I saw the video I was like USED to love Thinkpads. I like old Thinkpads before IBM sold them off.

[@ChibiKeruchan]

soldered RAM is exactly that bad. for 2nd hand buyers they atleast get assured the best base RAM along with it since it is soldered and the seller can't replaced it with cheap one. but yeah it suck to that it was soldered. Thinkpad are so famous for business owner who need one for their small businesses inventory system which is why 2nd hand used thinkpad selling like pancakes.

[@coltenkrauter]

Lenovo might not be the laptop you brag about on Instagram, but it's definitely the one you'd actually want to do real work on. Flash fades, functionality doesn't. BUT, I do really like a Macbook Pro. But I have respect for the stable competitor that so many use.

[@vtechk]

I still keep my old IBM ThinkPads. With Lenovo takeover the quality went down, but the top models are still pretty decent.

[@hyperturbotechnomike]

Nope, that would be the Panasonic Toughbook. Ugly as hell, but reliable and a pleasure to work with. Pure form follows function.

[@ComradeRachel]

The X1 Carbon models I have seen from them are still really thin and made well. Idk how thin people want their laptops to be but some of them like the LG gram are so thin and lightweight it feels like cheap plastic toy.

[@diablorojo3887]

Are you high? Lenovo is probably the worst cheap crap notebook on the market, no one take Thinkpad seriously since they buy the rights from IBM and trash the name

[@techkidwhiz]

​@@hyperturbotechnomikethe tough book might not have enough performance for some people though

[@davejustin_eth]

The only channel that could make me go: "Yes, I *will* watch a 13 minute ad for Lenovo"

[@LogicallyAnswered]

😂

[@renno0301]

My work laptop as a software engineer has been a Lenovo Thinkpad for years. It's company-provided but I chose the brand (most folks use Macbooks). It's a heck of a great PC.

[@kbhasi]

Your mention of most employees where you worked choosing Apple somehow reminded me of how Adobe CC on macOS (not Windows) seems to be the industry standard in a number of design industries, including graphic design and book publishing. I was an Apple user in the early 2010s, but eventually moved away from their ecosystem when they ditched their skeuomorphic UI design language in favour of a flat style*, I moved away to Windows, desktop Linux, and Android. I primarily use a custom desktop PC and Sony phone as my primary desktop and mobile OS devices, but also have a ThinkPad X250 (sadly not X380 Yoga due to budget issues I had back in 2018) as a secondary desktop OS device for Web browsing, productivity apps, and remote access. * This was before dark themes, which in turn are the only way I can live with modern UI design. I do plan to upgrade to a newer ThinkPad X13 Yoga when I can, but at the same time, while Framework Laptop 13 looks enticing to me, they don't yet have some of the features I want, which as you may have guessed, the ThinkPad X13 Yoga models do have.

[@andrerollins9894]

We haven't had good luck with X1 Carbons at our company. Bad QC, bad battery life, loud fans. I don't know how it can be compared to MacBooks at a hardware level.

[@jemiebridges3197]

keep in mind modern macs draw a lot from the t-series in build quality. if their upgradeablity was higher it be a tougher decision

[@rano12321]

you mean web developer?

[@theairacobra]

@@kbhasi I have a thinkpad l13 yoga and a t520 the x13 is basically the l13 but slightly better, and to be honest, i fucking hate it, it cools like shit i cant even open it with one hand, its just not a very good experience.

[@BebebnyaHuTao]

My sis has an old Thinkpad (T460P) and recently she dropped down her laptop from the campus cafetaria table, LCD and Keyboard (front-side) hits the floor, everyone was shocked lol. Magically it has no scratch or damage taken.

[@BebebnyaHuTao]

It survived fall damage, but still taken damage from water spill (from a glass) My sis and dad having a drama, dad spill the water to keyboard, now the keyboard is permanently broken 💀

[@Silverdev2482]

at least it can be replaced, but a bit annoying for some models. So you take apart the keyboard to remove, some you just remove 2 screws and slide out. My T480 just has 2 screws but idk about the T460 @@BebebnyaHuTao

[@hasanmujeeb8922]

Nokia of laptops

[@hasanmujeeb8922]

Nokia of laptops

[@coltenkrauter]

While everyone's busy making laptops thinner than a supermodel, Lenovo's like: 'How about we make ours actually last more than a season?'

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Pretty much haha

[@Rickanroc]

The IdeaPads an Yogas on the other hand tho. :p

[@garrettrinquest1605]

@@Rickanroc Maybe not quite to the same extent, but my IdeaPad has lasted far longer than laptops from other brands. The chassis cracked when I dropped it a few years back, but it's still perfectly usable. I'm only upgrading because the laptop I got from work has a slightly nicer screen (and also happens to be a Lenovo). Otherwise, I'd still be using that one.

[@_Stupid_Idiot]

I have a Lenovo laptop and it sucks. Every couple of months there's something new wrong with it.

[@hyperturbotechnomike]

Supermodels nowadays aren't thin anymore tho. Many of them put silicone in their buttcheeks to look like a hippo. And Lenovo has a fair share of awful products too. They ThinkPad might be great, but their IdeaPads are mostly just cheap, out of the box dysfunctional bait products, which can't even run windows without stalling.

[@olefredrikskjegstad5972]

My first Lenovo product was indeed a thinkpad that I picked up in 2016, and it worked the best of any laptop I'd owned so far. Was good enough to make me stick with their brand since.

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Glad to hear you’ve had a great experience with them Olef!

[@cncwizard]

I grabbed a L420 refurbished 8 or 9 years ago. It's still running to this day, albeit with Ubuntu, but still going strong. All the connectivity on that gen of Thinkpads was exceptional.

[@Soilad]

​@@LogicallyAnsweredhow on earth did u think olef is more likely his name than fredrik

[@megalomedia]

The Thinkpad is ruling corporate America, love to learn more about it. 🦍📈

[@guest_4416]

🐷🐷🐷

[@ravenking2458]

Not just US though. Thinkpads are great.

[@aflow-]

I have been using Thinkpads for over a decade and I can attest to their durability, reliability, and performance. They are not flashy or fancy, but they get the job done. I love the keyboard, the trackpoint, the ports, the battery life, and the easy upgradability. I also appreciate the history and legacy of Thinkpads, from IBM to Lenovo, from Earth to space. This video was very informative and entertaining. Thank you for making it and sharing the love for Thinkpads. 👍

[@LogicallyAnswered]

🙏

[@digletwithn]

I share the same exact opinion. And quite honestly, even if they made a more "flashy or fancy" version, I would still choose the "default" Thinkpad.

[@hyperturbotechnomike]

I'm a bit dissapinted in Lenovo that they too dropped the good keyboard for a macbook clone one since the T430. The traditional keyboard was more comfortable and had better key travel and was a bit more tactile. Especially the ones from the late 90's and early 2000's. The new one feels like typing on a school calculator. I also strongly dislike integrated batteries. But maybe i'm just too old or the wrong user base.

[@98SE]

Same here, this is the reason why I love my ThinkPads so much, I run Linux on all 3 of mine (T480, X1E2, and X220)

[@toyinoliviajibowu7807]

How long did it last?

[@boxertest]

I had a nightmare samsung laptop when I was in college that I bought for $700.00+ dollars back in the 2010s, it froze constantly, I bought a $400 dollar Thankpad E14 and it saved my whole college career, currenlt on a thinkpad extreme , I will forever be a thinkpad fan and user

[@seadsea]

do you even know how a laptop works? ofc it would froze if its outdated and has a weak cpu and hdd

[@pencilcase8068]

It wasn't outdated at the time he bought it😐😐​@@seadsea

[@donmigueldolanza]

@@seadsea this is absolutely the most moronic comment on this thread by a huge margin ... congrats!

[@mak_707]

I recommend being loyal to only specific models of a brand not the brand itself. You could always rely on T480 to be consistently a good laptop but you can't rely on think pads in general. Unfortunately, that's not how it works.

[@Simqer]

@@donmigueldolanza I bet he's an apple user.

[@jasonhindle4054]

I'm both a Mac and a PC user. When it comes to a PC laptop, I rarely think beyond Thinkpad.

[@bnnyboyy101]

lenovo fan so hard. reliable and consistent, my dad swore by them before me and I will continue that as long as they continue to produce quality

[@fix0the0spade]

I used a Thinkpad X220 for work for almost a decade, it only got retired when a patient randomly yeeted it across the room, killing the wifi, bluetooth and cracking the casing on landing. The current generations of Lenovo laptops simply aren't the same. They've moved in a very Apple/Samsung direction of soldering and glueing everything together and the build quality doesn't seem to be there anymore (build quality is on the inside, it's not about how pretty the casing is). It's a real crying shame, although the Legion laptops still look pretty slick.

[@goldmastersimulations]

I think Lenovo is unnecessarily changing the Legion lineup and introducing too many options. Pretty sad they nerfed Legion 7 hard after 2022 and especially this year with their rebranded Slim 7. They could've just given the Legion 7 Gen 7 the Pro 7 cooling system, latest CPUs and GPUs, miniLED display, and SD card slot.

[@DubYuhGChoppa]

I've had one of their high-end laptops for the last year and it's definitely made my experience on laptops as a whole significantly more favorable. I know there are probably more cost-effective brands but I've never had a machine give me 0 issues and continue such great performance before.

[@armamentarmedarm1699]

When it breaks (and it will, but that's fine! you'll probably have a fan failure eventually.) you'll likely find it fairly easy to fix yourself. Even Ideapads are good on that front, or used to be.

[@k_zildjian4460]

I've seen "cheaper" but I have yet to find a more "cost-effective" laptop in the last 20 years.

[@ristomatti]

You and/or your team just continue to come up with unexpected topics! My dad's IBM ThinkPad was the very first laptop I've used. I'm still using ThinkPads and that was 30 years ago.

[@DC-id2ih]

I've owned a couple of Lenovo's as my personal laptops and they are the machines the company I work for provides to its employees. I've always found them to be solid/reliable .....back in the early 2010s I splurged on a Lenovo W520 and it was without doubt one of the best computers I ever owned ....everything about the build and setup was practical and made sense....

[@armamentarmedarm1699]

1:10 "In fact, Lenovo hasn't really changed the design all that much since the Thinkpad was introduced way back in 1993" Oh man, the thinkpad bros are gonna come out for that one.

[@cassiohui]

Real Thinkpad fans started getting disappointed a long time ago with the last straw around early 2010s

[@Stephanie-mv9iy]

The new Thinkpads... especially the E series suck really hard.

[@HypeXesk]

Got a used thinkpad t410, straight up amazingly built and feels real sturdy even after 13 whole years, and works fast with linux even with the hard drive, had quite a lesser experince with the newer Ideapads aimed at average consumers

[@benjaminfranklin329]

I started work on a T410, those things wouldn't die. I accidentally spilled tea on one while working overseas. Hair dryer and some patience and it booted fine on Monday, used it for another year before they were retired.

[@HypeXesk]

@@benjaminfranklin329 interesting

[@UJustGotGamed]

@@benjaminfranklin329 i think the T410 has a tray under the keyboard that routes water out the bottom of the laptop

[@ApurvJyotirmay]

​@@UJustGotGamedyep, you're right. It's such a simple and practical design

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

Can we finally put an end to the absolute moronic assumption that "Sleek" designs means it's well designed? Laptops and PC hardware needs space to be cooled properly and not having to throttle down and reducing performance constantly. Besides Batteries define the thickness of a laptop as well. And especially the cooling fans and heatpipes. Besides that a certain thickness also increases the resistance against bending and deforming. People have been brainwashed for years with marketing BS and believing that the ONLY quality requirement for laptops is to be thinner and thinner.... Leave that mistake to Apple and their overselling hardware that is NOT meant to be practical but only fashionable. Nobody should let these factors be the only defining aspects in designing a laptop but sadly EVERY manufacturer out there has already succumbed to this irrational belief. The current time Laptop market is about the most boring segment you can think of, with an abundance or laptops that are just like Smartphones and cars: ALL looking the exact same with the only difference being the brand name that is slapped onto them. You know what laptops are still cool and fascinating? Thinkpads from around 2012.

[@gabezeb9293]

I LOVE IT!!!!! 👏🏼👏🏼

[@fination_]

I love that ThinkPads are still upgradeable and easy to repair unlike so many new laptops. Right to repair for the win!

[@ProductBasement]

My company leases Thinkpads and I've gotta say I'm a believer. The last personal laptop I bought was a Lenovo Yoga and it's been pretty good.

[@zeropaper]

The red dot in the middle of the keyboard may feel weird for kids ( ;) )... But as a multi decades owner of ThinkPad and as you mentioned later in the video, key is efficiency... When your hand doesn't have to leave the keyboard, it can make a huge difference. And... The compatibility of components with Linux is also amazing.

[@n0ame1u1]

I had to Velcro a wireless TrackPoint keyboard onto my work laptop because it's not a Lenovo and I couldn't live without a TrackPoint

[@DanielEscasa]

Same - I mean about the TrackPoint, not the Velcro ;-). I need a double shot of scotch before I use a trackpad

[@handlemonium]

And when your thumb starts hurting.....why not mouse around using your left or right pointer/FU finger instead?

[@mcaves]

Yes! The X1 Carbon is the perfect laptop, 2xUSB-A and 2xUSB-C ports, HDMI, thin, lightweight and pretty tough. And if you buy last year’s model, a reasonable price.

[@ChineseKiwi]

Yep, best time to buy new Thinkpads is actually now around Jan / Feb as they clear out last year’s models. Massive discounts thus value.

[@DS6Prophet]

Long time Lenovo user here! I got my Lenovo Legion Pro 5 a few months ago to upgrade from my old casual Lenovo Laptop! Easily one of the most worthy purchases ever hands down!! This incredible machine truly handles all my daily needs & it's amazingly reliable and trustworthy! I thought about some other brands, but I prefer to go with the trusted and tested brand I've known & used for years! 💻💻💻💻💻💻💻💻

[@arushthakur6717]

Hlo brother I want to buy a laptop but I'm so confused between asus zenbook 14 oled and latest lenovo ideapad with core 9 185H process can you please tell me about how your experience with lenovo it might be helpful for me

[@DS6Prophet]

@@arushthakur6717 Hello! So far my experience has been great! The Legion 5 Pro (I misspelled 5 for 15 in my OP) is a very powerful Laptop, coming with 32GB DDR5 Ram, AMD Ryzen 9 6900HX CPU with the Radeon 680M iGPU & the Nvidia RTX 3070TI 8GB VRAM GPU. It's been a great experience indeed (I owned a Lenovo Laptop before my current one as well & it lasted for 10 years) & I can tell you that it's indeed a company who's products are truly value for money. Now, as for the more technical aspects, if you plan on using Windows exclusively, they work out of the box, with great support for each individual model's drivers being available on the official Lenovo website, so you'll always be able to stay up to date even manually (I recommend that over automatic updates) & you'll be good to go. If you're planning on using Linux though, it'll be a bit tricky, mostly due to the Nvidia GPU. Arch Linux has the best driver support for it. I'd say you won't be disappointed with Lenovo. Just please remember, any Laptop, regardless of brand, is usually best to be bought in the price range of 1500€ & over. In my experience, anything from 1500-2200€ is solid af & lasts at least 5-7 years, before your Hardware gets completely out of date! Hope I helped! Happy purchases!

[@sodaa2489]

i used a friend's thinkpad 2 weeks ago. I'm going to get one ASAP. I've had a macbook for 2 years now

[@ricardojosemoralable]

I got assigned one at work. Like it so much I bought one for myself for working and gaming. It is by far the best laptop I’ve owned

[@bigpeopleareold]

The TrackPoint is not a dated input device. I use it everyday and find it better than trackpads for many use-cases. And - for myself, I only started to learn to use it a few years ago.

[@SomeRandomPiggo]

Same, I pretty much always use it instead of the trackpad

[@Alpha8713]

This. I disable the touchpad in the BIOS and just use the pointing stick, as I have for years.

[@DanielEscasa]

The main reason I'm sticking with ThinkPads. I touch-type, and having the TrackPoint smack in the middle of the home keys is the most genius piece of design I've seen. With the TrackPoint, I don't see the point (no pun intended) of using an external mouse. I still do use the trackpad, though, just so I can still use a non-TP laptop. Besides that, the keyboard is tops! Maybe apart from the X1 Tablet's, but then it's hard to get an excellent keyboard on so thin device, and the keyboard wasn't that bad. I've used Acers, Compaqs, and HPs, and none of the keyboards were up to par. I was also expecting so much more from MacBook keyboards - they're not bad, just that they weren't good enough for me

[@dopemusic6414]

Always love learning about companies I never thought much about. Thank you. Also, please kindly consider doing a video on Juul. I'm currently watching the Netflix documentary, it's excellent, and I'm sure you will enjoy covering it.

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Thanks for the suggestion man!

[@williamng6441]

Great video! Was a Lenovo staffer but had to leave after my contract due to headcount freezes! My company thinkpad was one of the best laptops I’ve ever used even though it was a budget thinkpad hahahah

[@doodskie999]

Our office uses thinkpads. Barely had any problems with our laptops. When they switched to asus a few years back, we had a lot of issues like faulty motherboards, premature LCD failures and hard drive failures. Now they are procuring thinkpads and slowly getting rid of our current computers. I dont know what the hell was the IT head was thinking, probably trying to save some money 😂

[@gold9994]

I mean, business laptops do costs twice as the others. You won't get errors with Latitude (Dell), Elitebook (HP), and Thinkpad (Lenovo). Asus don't have a business tier, Zenbook pro is catered to professional, but not suitable for business laptop.

[@warmtoiletseat5596]

​@@gold9994Dude Dell laptops are bad.

[@ultenhiemer]

I've never had a ThinkPad, but I do currently have a Legion 5 of Lenovos'. I like how you can upgrade the parts on your computer without voiding the warranty. Though you are asked to keep the original parts and return them into the machine upon a warranty claim. The Premium Care provided by Lenovo (As I bought 4 years coverage for this computer) is actually brilliant!

[@utkarshdubey5741]

I just got my thinkpad T14 yesterday, love those machines.

[@AkeshiZamora-cg6hs]

just ordered my first thinkpad yesterday and now one of my fave channels post this omg

[@schwingedeshaehers]

which one?

[@AkeshiZamora-cg6hs]

t14 gen 4 amd version​@@schwingedeshaehers

[@nolanroube1009]

I've been working with thinkpads for years and I'll never change. I've already had Dell or HP at work... It's unbearable when you're used to the almost perfect ergonomics of Thinkpads. I bought my last one just 6 months ago. I'm going to have a collection soon...they all work like day one!

[@henriquemiguel95]

I own a 14'' I7 48GB T14 Thinkpad as a personal computer, and my work computer is a X13 Thinkpad. I just love this computer, my favorite brand and model by far, it does everything I need

[@vizdrom]

While the ThinkPads and Yoga series have gone into the premium category, the value that the Ideapad and Ideapad Gaming is incredible (The Ideapad Gaming series is now renamed to Lenovo LOQ - but it's also better because it adds a lot of features from the Legion lineup)

[@des-Troy-ed]

I got a preowned Thinkpad 2018 version for £140, bought 32 GB of RAM for £50 installed it and now it's better than most laptops for general daily use.

[@seizera7586]

I got a T515p from work for software engineering. That thing is a beast i7, 32gb ram is more than enough for having multiple VMs, node servers, sql managment and much else. Never ran short

[@perryzheng8372]

Damn, I wish that I could call the ThinkPad "practical". The design has been slowly moving towards more of a Macbook, trying to appeal to a larger demographic, throwing away everything that made the ThinkPad special. I am terrified of what will happen to the brand in the future, like any other company, lenovo is motivated by only money.

[@toobigtofit3584]

I think you need to go for their workstations to get closer to the old ThinkPad feel. I have a ThinkPad P16 and it's sturdy, easy to service, and has enough ports (no ethernet though). The keyboard is still decent though the travel is shorter, and you still get a TrackPoint with real buttons. Not a T61, but still better than the other business laptops.

[@heroninja1125]

​@@toobigtofit3584the framework 16 is coming out, and it's going to make the p16 obsolete. The days of workstation ThinkPad are over, the only thing that is easily swappable on the workstation ThinkPads now is storage and memory, but even those are becoming soldered.

[@theendoftheline]

@@toobigtofit3584 lolol rip off laptop not good enogh, try a ripoff prebuilt lolololol

[@loganmacgyver2625]

The X1 carbons sure, the T series still has their old spirit

[@heroninja1125]

Yep, the framework 16 is becoming what the thinkpads used to be. Serviceable devices with upgrade potential. The thinkpads are losing their charm because they are getting mainstreamed by Lenovo.

[@stoobidthing]

Thinking about buying the Lenovo LOQ, I heard good things about the brand so I have my hopes up Specs for nerds: CPU: 8-Core Intel i5-13420H 3.4GHz (4.6GHz Turbo) RAM: 8GB 2x4GB DDR5 SoDIMM 5200MHz GPU: Nvidia GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop 6GB GDDR6 VRAM Display: 1080p 15.6" 144Hz IPS Anti-Glare coating Storage: 1TB NVMe SSD M.2 PCI-Express Webcam: 1080p Speaker: Integrated Stereo Ports: --2x USB-A 3.2 --1x USB-C 3.2 --1x USB 2.0 --1x HDMI --1x Ethernet (RJ-45) --1x 3.5mm Audio Jack Battery: 60Wh Lithium-ion 4 Cells Charging: Bi-Volt, 170W

[@TonyChuPT]

I've used laptops from TwinHead, Asus, MSI, Dell, Acer, Microsoft Surface, HP. None of them lasted more than 2 years. The last 2 even got the dreadful swollen battery problem that I had to throw them away for safety concerns. And then I bought a Thinkpad, which never shows a hiccup for the past 4 years. I'm watching this video with it right now.

[@urluelhurl]

I'm still rocking my P53 thinkpad from 2019. I love how easy it is to upgrade and its desktop performance supporting 128GB of ram, 3 ssd storage, Nviadia quadro GPU and an amazing 4k touchscreen.

[@bleskie]

This video seriously undervalues the immense role of IBM in making the ThinkPad the great laptop that it's always been. The design language was all IBM, and long before Lenovo bought out IBM's laptop designs, ThinkPads were a golden standard for computing performance in a variety of working environments. Lenovo just kind of slapped their logo on it.

[@EHKvlogs]

I bought a used thinkpad t470 and installed linux on it. Runs smooth and latest software. also the keyboard is the best in this price range.

[@woodwaker1]

I have a great hobby since I retired. I purchase old business Lenovo Thinkpads and refurbish them for my friends and family. I have probably done over 50 T420 and T470 models. They are ususally on e-bay for $100 or less only needing a hard drive and Windows installed. They are tanks with metal frames and easy to work on

[@ilovelimpfries]

Those IBM industrial designers really know how to built laptops.

[@snippingtool7810]

Lenovo's gaming laptop lineup (LOQ and Legion) is often the easy recommendation for people due to relatively good price to performance ratio. They also have good build quality even on the cheaper model.

[@loganricherson3749]

I also have their cheaper gaming option, an IdeaPad gaming 3. It's obviously not as good as a more expensive gaming laptop, but there really isn't a better gaming laptop at or below that price. I got mine for $650 with a 3050 and it's able to run every game I've tried on it, even though it isn't on max settings

[@imuruncledaddy8753]

I love the nipple curser. Once you get it you can't go back. I like browsing on my laptop more than my desktop for that reason. I never have to move my hands.

[@anjuthanm]

I got to use a ThinkPad for work once. That became my favorite laptop ever. I love the track point as i don't have to move my hands a lot while coding, keyboard is great to type on. It'll feel weird to use at first but after getting used to it will be easy. My next personal laptop will be a ThinkPad.

[@sunil-zo1vf]

Hari, you are spot on with content and facts!! Lots of respect man! I don't know if it's a coincidence or just happened I believe the same! I'm moving out of the Apple ecosystem as part of it I'm looking for a laptop that I can upgrade I end up with a Thinkpad and you have a video speaking about it!!

[@lordwiadro83]

I am still using a 2011 Thinkpad X220 as my home laptop (I also have a modern Dell from my employer). My only concern regarding this laptop has always been a small screen and a rather low resolution by today's standards. Otherwise, I am going to use it until it falls apart. It is the last generation with IBM's classic keyboard. I upgraded the RAM to 8GB and the hard disk to an SSD, and put a Linux on it. Works like a charm. In fact, I also replaced the whole case with a brand new one from AliExpress that I bought for just 30 euros. This computer is very easy to maintain and upgrade. It's a tragedy of modern times that they don't make them like this anymore.

[@M1U5T0N3]

My first Laptop in 2006 was a Thinkpad. Traded it against My OG PSP with a Friend of mine, in the Age of 12. Made me interested in Tech at all. It had so many expansion Slots and this iconical red Dot between the keyboard... At this time it was a IBM but i ever looked at Thinkpads over and over again. Think it is Time for another One next...

[@Kx0195]

I love my T480. £180 pre-owned for a business ultrabook from a few years back that I bought a couple months back. Incredible machines, super repairable, fantastic keyboard and performance. Can't go wrong

[@volkhen0]

I have the same. i7-8xxx CPU is still great.

[@rossmaxx]

From what I've heard, even ThinkPads started becoming less repairable, starring from the t480. Soldered ram, etc. Framework laptop is the new ThinkPad.

[@gold9994]

They still have free ram slots, soldered are faster.

[@Winters_D]

It's been 2016 when i've bought my Lenovo Y700-15. Now it's 2024 and it's still there working 9 years in a row for me. If not to consider 1 major screen problem, it's probably the only computer that made it this far for me. An annual MSI gaming-shish-laptop lasted 2 years back in the 2013, some acers were just 3-4 years in our fam, custom made pc's lasted only for 6 years max. Can say it's probably the only chinese company that breaks all the stereotypes about this country. Not sure about their last releases but it's amazing.

[@TheInternetHelpdeskPlays]

My only issue with the newer ones is a portion of the ram is soldered to the mainboard, so if it goes bad, you cant repair it yourself.

[@SweBeach2023]

Luckily soldered on RAM seems to fail very rarely. Don't think I can remember a single example of the top of my head.

[@erickmanangan4803]

Yeah, never had a problem with my 16 gb soldered ram😅

[@samuelgosling2000]

Honestly I love my thinkpad t14s gen 3, can’t fault it one bit and imo it’s pretty good looking very clean and understated

[@Jim_ho]

7:23 I'm noticing that my new ideapad keyboard has similar keys to the first Lenovo laptop. fun that they have kept it so many years.

[@baileytran4013]

Love my thinkpad. I used it all through college and just recently I dug it out and converted it to a ubuntu home server. Now I can use it for music/video streaming as well as extra storage and run Pi hole with it.

[@volkhen0]

I love my now quite old ThinkPad T480. It’s still rocking

[@pumirya]

I had no idea about this. That’s a pretty awesome accomplishment in my book.

[@user-en9uv8jj7p]

Is there a story about HP? I recently got it, mainly because spare parts are easy to come by here (Zambia). If there's already a video, kindly direct me.

[@k_zildjian4460]

I wouldn't call myself a Lenovo fanboy, but I keep coming back to them again and again. Some models suck (T440), some models are great (T430), but I absolutely love the fact that Lenovo has retained most of the IBM DNA in their ThinkPad products, including the "red eraser button" and the unbeatable keyboard. I typically recommend them to all my non-Apple clients. If you want a durable, cost-effective business machine, accept no substitutes.

[@remixedcat]

My t430 survived a coffepocolypse

[@ju2au]

I brought a Lenovo Thinkpad a couple of years ago, replaced my old tablet with a Lenovo Tab m10 Plus (3rd Gen) last year and recently picked up a Motorola Moto G54 phone. Just realized that I am now a complete "Lenovo Man"!

[@sanepraveen]

Agree 100%, except MacBook nothing come closure to Thinkpad especially KeyPad and Battery backup when it is unplugged. One of the best performance I ever worked over 12 years

[@TheElusiveReality]

Every laptop I've owned has been a Lenovo and they have never let me down, from a gaming rig to lightweight 2 in 1s to take to class they had me taken care of. AND their stuff (was) upgradable, I upgraded the ram in one laptop after a couple yrs and another one had the Ultrabay which I used for a second graphics card

[@coltenkrauter]

Lenovo - the choice for people who value work over wow factor.

[@arkajyotipal6205]

Lenovo - For those, who do

[@anuvette]

@@arkajyotipal6205 why do you both sound like bots 💀

[@arkajyotipal6205]

@@anuvette Beep boop 🤖

[@lionemessithegoat]

Legion are the best in class and something to flex about

[@nikolaidisharalambos6396]

I enjoy the unique design features of the T400. I think that the removable battery is designed like this (away from the main body) so that it is not overheated by the heat produced by the processor, and the way the fan sucks the air is from the back to the side and the hot air is pushed from the side to the left! This helps not to think about whether air is coming from below if it is on your feet or on a non-flat surface. Also another advantage is that the fan is very quiet! in its cooling system there is so much copper (3 pipes run to the heatsinks, apart from the thick copper plates!) which makes it almost passively cooled! I wish the new designs came out like this again!

[@WyvernDotRed]

At my university, the closer you get to the IT studies, the more ThinkPads and less Macbooks are around. And in tech-savvy, mostly Linux focussed circles, ThinkPads are still a status symbol, one showing knowledge of good tech. I am watching and commenting on my 2017 ThinkPad, which has been reliable for all this time, even the original battery still being good. Initially it had some BIOS related software issues which were a nuisance, about a year later these were fully solved, making it the best laptop I have used. While I am considering buying a Framework 16 next, having compared the keyboard and trackpad of a Framework 13 with my budget ThinkPad, I just prefer the latter. So that will probably keep me brand-loyal, Lenovo has proven themselves in making genuinely great laptops, like how Motorola has proven to make great phones.

[@nelswolf]

One my friends recommended me a thinkpad. Best laptop ive had. Its not the most powerful. But its reliable and easy to understand. Easy to upgrade

[@fdect]

Here I am watching this video on my... ThinkPad! The first laptop I used was the IBM ThinkPad (roughly around 1999) and in my first job I used IBM ThinkPads. These machines are tanks! Lenovo was very smart to keep the IBM trend of robust and practical computers directed at businesses. But their consumer products are not as good. My first personal laptop was a Lenovo G-Series and whislt very good, it was quite fragile. I still have it and use it, but the carcass is broken. However, recently have have started changing a bit... their Yoga series have bad repairrability and upgradability and their newer ThinkPads are going on the same way (specially the Carbon X series)

[@gohsingwah]

I have 5 iterations of the thinkpad over the last 15 years. And every one of them is still working today.

[@dirkschannel5817]

I’m a happy Thinkpad user since the mid 90th. They still look quite the same with great keyboards - and that’s an asset for workhorses :-) Still have a working 486 CPU Thinkpad. It’s on display at my office

[@Alpha8713]

They made the keyboards worse when they went to the chiclet design, then worse again with the low-travel variantts.

[@oscarruorochmolinacansino5907]

Thinkpads are love. Thinkpads are life. Their V line is also very good for their price range. Sure, most consumer-type Lenovo laptops have a soldered ram, but lots of models also have free ram slots and additional space to install extra hard drives if you like to tinker with your hardware.

[@blah2blah65]

Ever since trying a ThinkPad with the TrackPoint while working for IBM, I can't go back to any other pointing device. Touchpads and mice give me repetitive stress injuries in my wrist and are slower to use, requiring me to move my fingers off the keys. I don't like trackballs. For my desktop PC I use a ThinkPad USB keyboard with the TrackPoint (they also have a Bluetooth model, but I like wired). It's the same size as the classic ThinkPads and has no number pad. I like a small desktop keyboard so there is more room for a drink, laptop, and gadgets on my desk. TrackPoints are not very good for gaming, but for the basic games I play they work.

[@smol5601]

The only computers I've used that don't fail you with a bluescreen or anything fatal were MacBooks and ThinkPads. I trust them with my life!

[@ChiefGyk3D]

I still recommend Lenovo for computers for college and business users. My opinion hasn’t changed my entire professional IT and cybersecurity career. I still would take a Lenovo over a Mac

[@msulemanf]

This video is an interesting, thorough piece of work. I have an MBP M1 max beast - but still pine for the X1 carbon gen 6/7 I ebayed for < £400 (maybe 10th of the price). Replaced a dodgy key cap, refreshed what could be upgraded internally with the best components when i could - it never left my side. In general, Lenovo give you an ecosystem of interesting, attractive (generally) good quality peripherals. The keyboard, though. The fact you can get it on a lightweight, hi spec device that can be upgraded for reasonable money...

[@jnb756]

I still have a thinkpad in my arsenal of laptops - keyboard got smashed so I pulled it out - whenever I need a serial port (think cisco switches) I pull it out, plug in a USB keyboard - use a screwdriver on the keyboard connection input on the motherboard to fire it up and It works flawlessly

[@UJustGotGamed]

the keyboards are pretty cheap and easily replaceable, unlike many other manufacturers who use rivets and melt plastic around the keyboard lol

[@TeamEmperor]

The support is great. The repairability is great. Just works perfectly.

[@TejasviKumar-ti6ue]

I've been using a lower end i3 8th gen Lenovo for 5 years mostly for light work and apart from an SSD upgrade this thing works just fine despite the hardware essentially being ancient at this point it still works fine

[@AmirHamzah_MAHBAR]

I'm still using my current ThinkPad T440p for daily use. Other ThinkPad i own and gave to family is x230t, x240, yoga s1. Because easy to repair.

[@phillipwong3754]

I think what the video failed to cover is, how big the corporate market is today with Lenovo, I am a consultant who moves around from company to company. The first sign a company's department is cheap is they use Dell, the IT staff knows it and is up to corporate as they control the budget. I once went into an IT department as my Dell simply "died" when i close the lid to walk from one meeting to another, the IT guy was very nice and I told him I went through every single short cut keys I know or I can find online to see if I can start the machine, but no luck. He wasn't surprised as the stack of Dells next to him ( I am talking like 20 of them) had the same issue. The second part the vid didn't mention is the keyboard, Lenovo has somehow designed a very good keyboard with the right amount of space and fell. Even now I am writing this with a high spec Dell Precision, my fingers actually hurts.

[@jaysonibanez1088]

Im using the last great Thinkpad which is Thinkpad T480 and Im proud of it. all upgradeable baby

[@danielvasquez3758]

Let’s gooo!! Thanks LA for another awesome video!!

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Thanks for being early Daniel!

[@MrOrtmeier]

This was a great video. Very informative and fun. Thank you

[@jer1776]

I have a thinkpad for work and I love it. My only complaint with them is they have soldered RAM so it cant be upgraded.

[@taggerung890]

I still have a thinkpad t430 from 2014 and it still works and runs and does the old task here and there, and was even my minecraft server for a bit - this thing just won't die - oh and I love the red nipple!

[@2274FRESH]

My thinkpad is driving me crazy. When i shut it down powering it on is such a hustle. sometimes i have to hold the power button for like 20 seconds, sometimes 2 seconds. sometimes i press it twice. i dont even know how this works. the sometimes when its not in the mood i have to remove the battery and turn it on plugged in then put the battery back in. everytime it runs out of battery or i shut it down i just know its gonna be a hustle next time i turn it on.

[@space_ship643]

Watching this on a Lenovo Thinkpad P1 Gen 4, thinkpad is love

[@stlrsfan27]

Lenovo does a really good job ,but nothing beats the build quality of a IBM Thinkpad. Great video ,keep up the great work. 😁

[@gydo1942]

I have a thinkpad X1C gen 7, got it because the thinkpad line is known for very good Linux compatability. It wasn't cheap but I'd say it's great value nonetheless. Good build quality, nice keyboard etc. The only thing i've had issues with is the battery becoming unrecognised at random, so I had to open it up and disconnect/reconnect the battery. Not a big deal because it's easy to open. Though i wish they kept the power button on the top instead of the side and had a USB-C port on both sides. that would be nice. Overall it's a great machine.

[@daisei-iketani]

Loved my Thinkpad! All the engineers and office staff were given Thinkpads corporate wide at the large multinational is used to work for here in Japan. I could also see them used in my local city hall. For home use, use MacBook.😅

[@henrykkaufman1488]

ive been using thinkpads for over 20 years, i have few ibm models. thinkpads are the only laptops that I ever bought, theyre beautiful and track point is mandatory (way better than touchpad if you learn to use it)

[@FullaEels]

my work uses thinkpads, reliable little things they are. I've got an ideapad at home, which is aimed more towards office type work, solid thing

[@Bin_ZOV]

Using the thinkpad E14 for 4 years now. It's cheap, durable, get the job done. Still 6hours battery after 4 years 🎉

[@grittysand]

Watching this during office hours on my HP laptop, while I should totally be working on my company Thinkpad. I guess it needs to wait, home office has priorities.

[@swattikkarma7217]

This video is much needed thanks for this.😊

[@The-Cat]

I have a ThinkPad and i love it, unfortunately they discontinued the X1 Extreme series... I was due for an upgrade from the first gen X1 Extreme.... now they lost a customer

[@omardub15]

I purchased a Lenovo ThinkPad X380 Yoga 13 a few years ago. After two years, it started to become extremely laggy, to the point where opening a single browser tab would cause the fan to roar loudly, despite no visible dust inside. So, nearly three years ago, I switched to the MacBook Pro M1. It's been an outstanding experience - even with just 8GB of RAM, I can effortlessly open 25 tabs in Safari, run complex machine learning algorithms, and edit videos without any lag, overheating, or excessive fan noise. It still works like it's brand new - definitely the best decision I've made👍 Macbook and Lenovo Thinkpad have very different price ranges but whatever

[@sodaa2489]

you could have upgraded your RAM and switched to SSD

[@zbigniew2628]

Ah yes, the perfect customer for Apple. You know that, x380 13 had old Intel processor, which was first "new" model for Intel, since AMD started to make Ryzens. If you workload is big, then even ryzen 4800h would be better with rtx2060, coz M1 is ARM which is design for 1 task per core, when x86 is best when 2 task per core. Also you may just need a thermal paste replacement and more ram on your old laptop, but I quess it was just bad CPU for a thin laptop and this workload. Apple is not worth supporting any money, for what they are doing with their designs and customer support. ... Also choosing slower power setting for web browsing could help, coz CPUs try to do task as fast as possible with high performance boost - heat in short time, if power mamagmet is not best it will coz fan to spin.