Lenovo ThinkCentre M900 SFF - Teardown, Upgrades, Benchmarking

[@vinodhshivya214]

Greate video . We expect more videos like this . Spectacular 😍😁

[@PossumMedic]

"In an emergency, you can always use the manual of your Jabra headset as well" 🤣 Thanks for the vid!

[@orange11squares]

excellent review, this is a nice mini computer especially with the upgrades done to it.

[@truebluegamerr]

I purchased a very similar PC, and a graphics card :) Thanks, I’ll save this video for when everything arrives

[@FedericoRodriguez-sc3gv]

Which graphics card did you buy for this type of pcs?

[@TSOLYRICS]

​@@FedericoRodriguez-sc3gvdon't know about him, but i bought 1050ti (only option in low profile in budget).

[@Hardwaremoney]

Great video, thanks for sharing

[@marcorizza274]

You are not alone. I worked on these for some time, and the air duct was almost always left behind!

[@DanielCardei]

Well done. Awesome job

[@paolonervi2208]

Thank you for the time you have dedicatet making this video.Just a question..have you measured the power consumption of the machine?in idle and under load...?thsnk you again.

[@jensdbe]

I have not but I did on a similar machine. I except similar values here. Have a look at my old video regarding this, in case you are interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5Dbq2qrp5l7iZo

[@fandyramadhana6554]

hi, is it possible to replace the HSF CPU Cooler with aftermarket HSF? I'm worried if replacing with aftermarket HSF will have problems with the bios.

[@andynicolaieanghel8933]

Great video 🥰

[@SleepyGaymer]

hi! I hate to ask but would you have any measurements for the space in-between the drive bay and the pcie brackets? Im thinking of putting a low profile 4060 :)

[@jensdbe]

Unfortunately I don't have the machine anymore but I think a 4060 will use too much power for this machine as it can draw up to 110W as far as I know.

[@SleepyGaymer]

@@jensdbe some models had better psus or i could always upgrade the psu :)

[@TamasH87]

Great quality video, thank you! In your experience, do you find Lenovos to be more picky than other brands when it comes to RAM they work with? I use an old M58P tower that came with 2 x 1GB of RAM. I ordered it years ago from a refurbisher company with a RAM upgrade but the stick they installed was not accepted by the system. At the time I didn't bother returning it, because Linux Mint was perfectly happy to run basic tasks with 2GB as well. Recently I found a good deal on used DDR3 so I bought 2x 2GB sticks, no luck again, it beeps and doesn't post regardless if the new RAM is added alongside the old or on its own.

[@jensdbe]

To my experience Lenovo's are not more or less picky for memory. Are you sure the memory is compatible? There is often memory available at prices that look like a good deal but in a lot of cases this is memory that comes for decommissioned servers and is ECC or Registered, which is not compatible here.

[@TamasH87]

Thank you for the answer. It probably comes down to a frequency incompatibility. The board takes 1066MHZ RAM and they sent me the 1333 type (although I specified what I needed but they didn't care or didn't have it on stock. Typical Romania, haha..). There was a chance that the board could run the faster sticks at its lower required speed, so I tried them anyway, but no luck. If they make me pay for postage to return them, it's not worth it. Anyway, soon the time will come to move on from the old trusty Core2Duo to something more recent :) I just don't like throwing things away while they still work well. Thanks again! Keep up the good work! And happy new year!

[@eaxgaming7141]

Watching this because I want to remove my SSD from this pc and put in a new one. I'm watching this on an M700 SFF, which is the same (pretty mutch) as the one you are diss-assembling.

[@Nightmare-mr5mx]

Does the m700 sff have an m. 2 slot cause I'm planning on buying one and a m. 2 ssd

[@gwillferrr]

dude i need help how do i remove the bracket cover

[@Ceeeje]

i saw on another video where someone used the onboard m2 slot for wifi.

[@dorkvader]

Could you replace the motherboard with a generic third party micro-ATX motherboard? And is the power supply a standard one? Its connector does not seem to be either 20 or 24 pin..

[@jensdbe]

I'm not sure. From the looks, the form factor is similar to standard ATX. For the power supply, I know adapter cables exist from standard ATX to the format Lenovo is using here but haven't seen them the other way around.

[@dorkvader]

@@jensdbe thanks for responding so quickly. If the mainboard is replacable with a standard micro atx, and the power supply form factor is not unique to lenovo, then this could turn into a real powerhouse of a PC

[@TSOLYRICS]

​@@dorkvaderyou know which powrr supply will work here?

[@alejandrocamacho6681]

Dear friend,I'm from México, your videos have helped to me so much. But I need your help one more time, how can I get into the BIOS Advance Settings to set xmp profile? Lenovo ThinkCentre m710s 10m7.

[@youdeetube]

about mil spec tough, is this cover all m900 series, or only for m900 sff?

[@dementiagam1ng]

great video, but is the motherboard M ATX spec? or is it a custom form factor?

[@jensdbe]

Size-wise, I think it is up to the spec but the power supply input/control is using a different standard. I did see that conversion cables exist but don't have experience with that.

[@dementiagam1ng]

@@jensdbe yeah i thought so too, but i was wondering if a M ITX or M ATX motherboard could fit, i would just fit a different one then the old one

[@JAAS-b7k]

Ah that sucks. I thought I could put m.2 sata or nvme on this one😅

[@jensdbe]

Not natively but if you really need the performance, you can install it through a PCIe adapter. Not sure if you could use it to boot from but it would definitely work and deliver the expected performance.

[@rc-huina8221]

Thank video 👍👍👍🤗

[@Alpejohn]

Would it be possible to fit a different mATX motherboard in this? I have the same computer, and i love the design of the case etc. I use it on my tv in my livingroom. I guess the power cables can be a problem but might be able to buy adapters for it. How would it be to mount a different cooler when the mounting screws goes into the chassi in the back?

[@ashton9898]

I don’t believe so, was looking into it myself and it’s a custom form factor board as well as some of the psu plugs are made to specifically only allow that motherboard, they would never do this to stop consumers from upgrading though 😁👍

[@FedericoRodriguez-sc3gv]

Which graphics card you would be able to install in one of this pcs? I have one with 250 watts power supply..

[@jensdbe]

@@FedericoRodriguez-sc3gv I believe a GTX 1650 would be a good choice.

[@FedericoRodriguez-sc3gv]

@@jensdbe Thanks!

[@Zexile.Rancard]

Hi sorry to bother you, can i ask if i can insert 2 ssd sata 2.5 using dual sata 4 pin cable in exchange losing the dvd drive

[@jensdbe]

You can use any of the SATA ports for an additional drive but might need a splitter for the SATA power cable as the DVD uses a different type.

[@Ramirez3483]

hey, i can put an rx580 in that desktop?, and, for install an graphic card i need to remove the drive bay??

[@jensdbe]

I don't think a RX580 is a good idea here. First of all, the power supply is far to weak to have a RX580 in this machine so you would need to start by upgrading that first. Secondly, only low profile cards fit in there and I'm not aware of any RX580 in that form factor + it would indeed require you to remove the drive bay as well.

[@Ramirez3483]

@@jensdbe oh ok thx, it helped me

[@manuelgafoz1660]

Hey, which RAM can I use for this machine? I would like to upgrade this. A Link would be fine. Thanks!

[@Adrian-te3fz]

any standard non ecc

[@JAAS-b7k]

Seems like the power supply only have 12volts? I could only see yellow and black wired aside from the power on Cable and -12v

[@jensdbe]

I think you are right, there is only +12V on yellow, -12V on blue as far as I can see.

[@gregfisher216]

Great video ,it is amazing how they design these machines for fast production and ease of repair with minimal tools. I have a question ,I have a Lenovo H520s vertical tower that I got at a recycle yard. I got it home and hooked it and and it booted to Windows 10 home ! It originally came with Win 8.1 it also has a core i7 3rd gen processor and 8 GB of DDR3 1600 MHz of ram. The computer runs well since I cloned a 500 GB SSD ,replacing the mechanical drive that it came with. Can I upgrade the memory to 16 GHz since the machine is running Windows 10?

[@jensdbe]

Should be perfectly fine to upgrade to 16GB of RAM

[@gregfisher216]

@@jensdbe Thank you ,I will crack into the machine and get the specs on the memory to make sure it is the right type and let you know how it goes .

[@joshuacanete9200]

Hello brother! What it is called on the cord that powers up the optical drive? i can’t seem to find a 6 pin sata power cable.

[@jensdbe]

Not sure what the official name is (if there even is one) but you can typically find them when looking for "6 pin sata hp elitedesk"

[@udidgood]

Which one is better? This m900 or m910 s? And why?

[@serogunn5093]

I put my ssd on dvd drive bay, can I put another ssd/hdd on 3.5 bay?

[@lvphuc133]

I want to use this box as a NAS. Can you help with how many 3.5 HDDs I can install?

[@jensdbe]

There is only a single place for a 3,5" HD. I do think that one might fit under the DVD-drive as well but it won't be ideal.

[@mohammadalcherkaui2968]

Hi, I have the same PC at home and was wondering if an Asus Dual Nvidia GTX 1660 Super OC (graphics card) would fit. I'm thinking of upgrading this to a gaming PC. Thanks!

[@jensdbe]

If you have a low profile card, which exists as a GTX 1660 super I believe, it should work. The power supply is 210W and that card would draw at max 125W as far as I can see. It will be on the limit but I don't expect too much issues.

[@mohammadalcherkaui2968]

@@jensdbe Thanks man! 👍

[@tadeuszmarin5704]

The most powerful low profile GPUs available are the Gtx1650 and the RX6400 The 1660 is probably ITX (shorter in depth, but standard height), so it won't fit. You will have to find a more powerful TFX power supply than the one included, probably.

[@latinletters565]

@@tadeuszmarin5704 so would I need a different mother board or could I just put a gtx1650 in with minimal issues?

[@tadeuszmarin5704]

@@latinletters565 The motherboard is not an issue. A gtx1650 (low profile, remember), will just draw power from the Pci-e slot of any ATX motherboard.

[@xxgg]

This this SFF can only hold 1x3.5" HDD? Do you know of any model which can hold 2x 3.5" & 1x 2.5" at least? (I do plenty of HP SFF machines do but wondering if any SFF from Lenovo or Dell has those capabilities as well)

[@jensdbe]

If you need place for more than one 3,5" drive you could go for an SFF with a full 5,25" DVD-drive. There are brackets to hold a 3,5" and 2x 2,5" drives that fit in that place. I used it here to build my NAS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIm6gmd8fpqDq5Y

[@xxgg]

@@jensdbe I am actually thinking of HP Pridesk 600 g2 or elitedesk 600 g2, elitedesk 800 g2 or g3 to build me a NAS too. I found that these have 2 3.5 bay and 1x 2.5". Plus I can get a caddy for slim DVD for another 2.5. I wanted 2x 3.5" because I want to run it as mirror.

[@jensdbe]

I have a review/teardown of the ProDesk 600 G2 coming up. Still working on it but shouldn't take longer than a week or so :) That one indeed has the space for 2x3,5" + 2,5" I believe

[@mracw21]

Could you add a low profile graphics card that would be strong enough for gaming. If so would you also need to change the power source?

[@jensdbe]

A GTX1650 or 1050Ti would be proper options that do not required additional power or a different power supply.

[@TheRealWorld0520]

Salutări! Nu va supărați. Sunteți român ?

[@jensdbe]

Not Romanian, I'm from Belgium :)

[@TheRealWorld0520]

@@jensdbe Thank you for answer! Have a good day! 🌞😇

[@robustdemo2168]

Can I put 32gb in slot 2 and another 32gb in slot for ? Or do I need 4 16gb sticks?

[@jensdbe]

Not 100% sure but I would be surprised if it supports 32GB modules. If you want 64GB, you will most likely need 4x16GB.

[@jundropshot]

can you buy sata power cable separately if you need additional ones?

[@jensdbe]

Sure, there are easy to find SATA power splitter cables available

[@troytaylor1913]

I'm kind of looking for something low-power around a 60-watt processor. I think this will work but with no extra storage, no DVD, and no cooling fan I want to bolt a passive heatsink even if it won't fit in the case I can leave the top off it's going in a portable solar-powered laser burner. I even stripped down a laptop LCD display no camera just a driver circuit with video connections. All the extra power I save in watts goes toward refrigeration and a CO2 laser. Cooling is done by a thermal draft in a painted black metal pipe and wind.The ThinkCentre M900 case looks easy to work on after removing all the stuff I don't need out of the way. I will have to take it apart and clean out the smoke and dust from being an outdoor machine every few weeks. I think fanless power supplies will fit this. 16GB of ram will work well on graphic applications. Some low-power workstation cards are pretty powerful nowadays. I got a Quadro K220 it just gets warm to the touch and renders video all day and has enough power with GDDR5 ram to play some games but it's not low profile.

[@josephp9141]

Thank you for the video. About to make a 300 build with this one. Case looks so sht tho

[@rojeilmarkmovillabsnd3a339]

Is the cpu compatible with windows 11?

[@jensdbe]

A 6th generation Intel Core CPU is not officially supported. It is possible to work around the hardware check though. Have a look at another video I did on that specifically: For a fresh install: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4HGZYejndtgZ9E or for an upgrade: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXqVc2h-Z9mMgtU

[@mohamadandalosi]

Can a gtx 750 ti be installed on it?

[@jensdbe]

As long as it is a low profile version, it should work

[@dabby_killa1155]

Can I do a case swap and fit a msi 1050ti?

[@jensdbe]

No need to do a case swap if you are using a low profile card. These exist as 1050Ti for sure. A case swap is difficult as the motherboard is not in a standard format and the power supply isn't either.

[@dabby_killa1155]

Thanks! Although, I was planning to use my old full size 1050ti so I can't do that.

[@mastershokhan]

I had a low profile 1050ti in mine. I could run the latest games untill this year.

[@RoMeeLShEzAiT]

you can add support to 8th /9th gen intel and xeons lga 1151 aswell with coffe time bios mod via, the m900 is better to doing (im do with m710e and im plain todo with m900 to, xeon m) Edit , im upgrade tp coffe lake with m710s xd

[@headshotswagger6984]

can you put a videocard in this pc?

[@jensdbe]

As long as it is a low profile card and it does not need too much external power, it should work fine. Something like a 1050 would be a good match.

[@headshotswagger6984]

​@@jensdbe thanks for the info :)

[@dadlich]

Is it possible to connect a video card to it? 1050ti or 1650?

[@jensdbe]

As long as it doesn't need additional power input and the card is low profile you should be good.

[@setterkim4050]

Was removing the motherboard necessary? 🥸

[@jensdbe]

Necessary, no. Just to illustrate how to do it if you would like (and it is fun) :)

[@formicone7]

Can you punto 2 x 3.5 inch hdd in this case?

[@moodshorts3359]

no… theres can use 1 only. available space for nvme, 1 ssd sata rack, n change dvd with 2,5 hdd or ssd