Lenovo ThinkPad P17 Gen 2 REVIEW: THE BIG BOY IS BACK

[@bjeffers68]

Just started following your reviews. Love the way you review the products. Everyone lease I see acts like fanboys. No one else I see the need to opens the case for those of us who like to upgrade and expand. Please keep your format of review. This is really substantive.

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Thanks!

[@spasokukotsky]

I think 720p webcams should not even exist anymore in 2022. 1080p should be the bare minimum.

[@SteveRunciman]

love that you gave us a chance to hear the keyboard!

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Glad you liked it!

[@DaemonGeek]

I will be more interested once they get the 12th gen CPU's in this beast

[@TheRockeyAllen]

Gen 3 coming soon! Need a review!

[@RetroDawn]

@@TheRockeyAllen The P16 will supposedly replace this and P15 Gen 2.

[@TheRockeyAllen]

@@RetroDawn as expected... any idea of when it'll be launched?

[@youp1tralala]

Still rocking a P72 for 3 years now (the predecessor to the P17) and still awesome for what I need! It looks almost like brand new and the chassis is virtually indestructible. The alder lake refresh of both the P15 and P17 will be replaced by the P16 with a 16:10 display. The P17 gen 2 is the last 17" ThinkPad.

[@razvanrugescu]

Just bought myself a fully equipped P17 Gen 2. Just in time, couldn't let that go. I need a 17" workstation laptop. I guess I will be holding to it for many years from now 😉

[@youp1tralala]

@@razvanrugescu Good choice! My P73 is 3.5 years old and far from being outdated!

[@reasonmath]

Nice sir!

[@thomasmacdonough288]

Aw that's kinda sad. 17" behemoth laptops are so charming to me, but I don't think I'll ever get my hands on a P17 if they're discontinuing them now. I guess on a practical standpoint the 16:10 P16 is pretty good, though.

[@davidallen2211]

It's got those old-school Thinkpad vibes for sure. I would have gone with a wider trackpad to the right. This one looks so 2001. Priced for a niche market for sure.

[@marcelqqq]

My wife is still using Lenovo Flex 2-Pro 15 i7 5.gen. I paid 600 bucks in 2015 or 2016.

[@assistantdogconsult]

Love the ThinkPad reviews...keep em coming Andrew.

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Thanks Brad!

[@williamcohen3351]

Nice PC. For the price one pays for this it should have a 1080p webcam. Webcam was fair but as you say will get the job done. Microphones sounded okay. Nice keyboard well laid out. NIce full size numpad and well laid out. Like the access to the inside for upgradeability. Excellent port selection. You mentioned that it comes in at 8 pounds. Does this include the weight of the power brick? This is great portability for moving it to one place to another in a car but it is not practical when traveling on airplanes. Overall a great PC when used as a workstation. Another great review as always.

[@davesharp9656]

Nice job. No music no bull.

[@reasonmath]

I have the p15 and p17 both gen 2 maxed out!! Now this is a dayum machane!! Not a machine but a machane!! I really hope Lenovo continue this line up going forward! A version with a gen 5 and 10 so to say... Truthfully they need to offer upgrades(system board with ddr5 for example) or buy new... I would gladly pay for that!

[@hanjarake_taro]

I'll be so excited if you can do ThinkPad P16s review once it's out

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Yes I will be reviewing it.

[@aggamingaung2632]

@@andrewmarcdavid please hint us when you will review it

[@JamesMcGillis]

In less than two years, my P17 Gen 1 BIOS failed, disabling the keyboard and track pad. Also, the Windows 10 Start Button and tray were disabled, leaving no option but to wipe the drive and reload from a USB stick. That failed, too, requiring a motherboard replacement, coming soon. My unit came with only a 170 watt charger. Yours has a 230 watts. Sounds like I was shortchanged. I'll look into that. Be sure to buy the five year on-site repair program and the three year battery replacement warranty. Otherwise you will have to ship to a repair depot and pay full replacement costs after your factory warranty expires.

[@BenKistner]

Great review! I have the ThinkPad P71, and have been wanting to upgrade. I have one question though, when you mentioned the SIM card slot, you said something about 5G. Is there actually an option for a 5G modem from the factory, or is t still just 4G LTE? I love my P71, but the fact that I can only use 4G is what makes me want to upgrade. I need that N71 band! 😁

[@PeterFrankman]

Very thorough articulate review. They all should be this good. Thanks. 13:26

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Thanks for watching!

[@tiborkemeny8644]

Excellent introduction. I use my machine for FEA/CAD and it kills.

[@dipenb4u]

excellent detailed review, super helpful, thank you and god bless.

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Glad it was helpful!

[@adinchandra1797]

This Laptop reminds me My Aunt's Laptop. She bought it back in 2020/2019, sorry forgot. And it used Intel Core 4th Gen, it use Windows 7 originally, but already using Windows 10

[@malinda2k3]

the audio quality is amazing!

[@ElvinValdez]

You are amazing at doing this reviews...

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Thanks

[@s0nspark-public]

Aside from the durability/serviceability and generally great Linux compatibility/support, it is that little TrackPoint that keeps me buying Lenovo ThinkPads. After developing a RSI from decades of using mice and trackpads, switching over to the TrackPoint let me work without pain... 🙂

[@razcarsey6635]

I like having the Trackpoint available for when my cat insists on sitting on my lap with her head resting on the trackpad. Also, you should give a trackball a shot for your RSI when you're at a desk. They're amazing in so many ways.

[@ElrondMcBong.]

@@razcarsey6635 I can very much relate to the cat situation

[@rafaelperez9652]

Definitely geared for the Professional market, priced to boot! It has mediocre 720p mediocre webcam quality, internal mic quality not too bad. It is not for everyone but it is a nice machine nonetheless. It will get the work done however. As always Andrew, Brilliant review!! 👏 😁

[@michaelbyrd4004]

Hello again AMD. Thanks for the video! I have too many thoughts about this laptop. All I want to say, is I hope it works well for whoever buys it.

[@daniellebowitz-lapu1383]

Please, please, please give a quick comparison of the keyboard for the P17 and the P1/X1E... I would imagine the P17 is better since it is a thicker laptop, but please let me know.

[@andrewmarcdavid]

P17 has better key travel.

[@daniellebowitz-lapu1383]

@@andrewmarcdavid Thank you for the prompt response... Much appreciated!!!

[@MuzeInspiration]

Hi, I am a student and I need an upgradable Lenovo laptop that will handle music production very well and is cheap too. Please can you give me options.

[@gabrielcoker]

Hi, is it still worth buying if your not going to use the ISV applications. I personally like the fact it a lot of ports along with upgrading the ram and SSD.

[@matekurdghelia349]

Good rewiew. can it be charged with USB c ?

[@hasanal3571]

Any news about availability of _* ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 10*_ ? Nothing until today ! 🧐 What's happening, why this delay ?!🤔 Thank you to sharing your knowledge about it.

[@likewaterforcoffee1570]

I have the 1st gen P17 and it is fantastic

[@jrockland4057]

This machine, with PCIe 4.0 can accommodate M.2 drives larger 4TB?

[@ChrisPollard]

It's really a shame they put a sad 720p webcam in these. They have more than enough space for a 1080p cam. Looking at the P17 Gen 2 (i7/32GB/A2000/UHD display) for work. Heck, it's probably a little overkill, but better to buy more than you need today because demands of the next 4 or 5 years won't get any lower. I don't mind a hefty 17" laptop in the slightest for getting work done. This thing should eat graphics/video/desktop publishing without blinking.

[@MuantanamoMobile]

Price...they want to keep the final price and power consumption low. They could also add configurable options but I guess they figured it wasn't worth the hustle as it complicates manufacturing. So since most people using these are primarily using them for work related tasks they figure 720 is good enough, and an external device could be used for anything else.

[@divinusfilius3771]

Wow, badass!!

[@msunardi]

9.75 hours of battery life under normal load (web surfing over wifi)? Is that power efficiency over the 10th gen Xeon real? I have the t15g gen 1 with the w-10855m, and it probably get 2+ hours, on average about 15% CPU load while web browsing.

[@brianhalley6184]

Andrew, Is 2TB the largest M2 it can handle or will it handle a 4TB M2?

[@axelschweiss6149]

My p17 goes back tomorrow. It's so incredible loud in high frequency. What a small thermal output. Insane. A 4000$ notebook. No way, sorry.

[@jairoisaaccabrera2185]

Porque ya no esta disponible en Estados Unidos?

[@ctoxyz]

nice review

[@andysilvers9532]

That Cinebench R23 multicore score is Awful! I suspect the i7 would thermal throttle less and therefore score better.

[@user-dg3gt4bf3f]

How much does this product cost in US dollars?❤

[@fishball1634]

just wondering if this can play 4k videos?

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Yes it can

[@fishball1634]

@@andrewmarcdavid would it be exactly 4k display quality even though the specs say FHD?

[@pillowfighter86]

Does the touchpad click ... I'm looking for a 17.3" laptop with two discrete buttons that doesn't click .... if this touchpad clicks, anyone know any "old school" touchpads on 2021-2022 17.3" units with just two discrete buttons?

[@KarlDahlquist]

Hank the Tank is back!

[@enochthestud]

How much is gen 1?

[@Cocoyz]

Good audio but video is dull

[@davek5899]

A 720p webcam on a $4,600 laptop. Let that sink in.

[@whyme3772]

I'm not surprised. The majority of the laptops now still have that 2011 camera quality, and I really don't know why.

[@lch032]

Does this mobile powerful laptop can run Linux Ubuntu???

[@thomasvideoa]

Do you find any noise problem of the cooling fans on this machine?

[@user-cm3ti4in2n]

I don'tfind any problem unusual ,sometime the fan will run very fast,but in most of time ,it works will. Type in p17 gen2 with Xeon cpu and a4000gpu HOPE TO HELP YOU(lol)

[@chrisblum8358]

Those bezels....

[@QuintonMuchena]

Can you upgrade the GPU if you get a lower T1200 GPU

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Not that I am aware of

[@micheal2312]

Lenovo ThinkPad P17 Gen 2 discontinued

[@abdessamadbouaicha2033]

the build quality is not that good comparing to the p73 and 72,

[@VASound7]

P17 is thicc

[@whyme3772]

The good side is that it allows for more ports. The bad side is the portability (depending on the situation) and it could overheat.

[@micro7567]

I'm more interesting in Thinkbook line

[@illla]

That cost does not reflect performance even in professional applications. A decent gaming laptop easily outperforms this professional laptop in professional applications. What professional laptops offer is stability of the work. Basically big companies buy a bunch of professional laptops for their workers and the laptop manufacturers guarantee that their professional laptops will work stable and without crashes in professional applications and this is the only thing you pay such huge price for. This is basically it. There is literally no computing power benefits in professional laptops.

[@mikemetz82]

P16 coming soon?

[@andrewmarcdavid]

I had a chance to go hands on at the Lenovo event in NYC and I should have a review unit soon. Stay tuned.

[@mikemetz82]

@@andrewmarcdavid yes! Thank you sir!

[@TMS5100]

My 8 year old cellphone has several massively superior cameras compared to the potato in this Lenovo. It's like they aren't even trying anymore.

[@keyboard_g]

ThiccPad

[@TheGrizz485]

The Asus g14 will probably beat this thing in performance at 1/3rd the weight and price. that 11th gen cpu is useless. and i think those pro Nvidia gpus are a gimmic. you can totally install ISV drivers on some normal AMD gpus

[@ChrisPollard]

G14 is made for a completely different market. Great system, not intended for the jobs these mobile workstations are at all.

[@usmangull5762]

Maybe Not So Mobile... 🤣