lesbianism, but FOR MEN

[@rattgod]

Y’all need to understand, this is just homophobia and misogyny. When men suggest or get off to p0rn of “turning lesbians out”, they’re actively perpetuating and normalizing the idea that homosexuality isn’t innate and can be changed so easily. This is similar to conversion therapy, except it’s a kink and a lot of men get off to it, this isn’t normal or healthy behavior. A lesbian is a female homosexual, the only people who can be lesbians are female born people who are exclusively sexually attracted to other female people, doesn’t matter how they self identify. This issue is rampant in South Africa where “corrective” rape is a common form of abuse and control that men subject lesbians to, this issue is so horrific and normalized in many places. I see some comments of ppl suggesting that some male people can be lesbians if they’re trans identified, and I’m just gonna say that’s silly. Again, a female homosexual is a lesbian, it’s insane to suggest a man can be a lesbian. I wanna emphasize that even if someone is born female but “identities” as a man and they’re still same sex attracted, they’re still lesbian, the self proclaimed identity doesn’t trump their innate sexuality.

[@oooooooooooolive]

No, trans women who are lesbians are valid. They are not men, they are women who are lesbians.

[@eepytransgirlasmr]

heya there are parts of this comment that are actually almost certainly transphobic. You're on a slippery slope here. Are you a TERF? with that last sentence you say, i think there would be many trans men who would call you a transphobe for that comment honestly. You do not speak for me or any trans inclusive lesbian communities. and you should crawl back to your gender critical hole. Who are you to tell anyone what they are or arnt able to be, based on what you presume they were born as. Im not saying literal dudes can be lesbian. But the fact that you'd probably never consider me as anything other than a "trans identified male" is transphobic. Also really disappointing that this comment is the pinned one by the channel creator because this is not ok!

[@jordansmith7546]

Was a little confused by the trans part of this comment but I found this video and the comment section very enlightening !

[@itsgabbybtch5587]

Trans men are NOT lesbians, you're now perpetrating transphobia, so you're no better. It's misogynistic to force labels onto people just because they were born with certain body parts we as a society deem "feminine". Perhaps you should unpack your need to compare heterosexual trans men with masculine lesbians, because they are two complete different parts of queerness.

[@ohnoohnoohnoohnoohnoohno8737]

You are a transphobe.

[@BalloraXBabyUwU]

Cough cough Drake cough cough

[@ChronicHater]

My favorite lesbian! He's so brave for coming out

[@jewelamina]

bbl drizzy 🥲.

[@BalloraXBabyUwU]

@jewelamina Drake be freaky for real

[@ShyasShadow]

"You said you a lesbian girl, me too."💅😜 Some straight dude named drake-

[@jewelamina]

😭

[@Calle.Hutch..]

I have heard several times growing up that the word “lesbian” was just a corn category, including from my own mom. The word is very tainted, and as someone who has experienced mostly the not good side of smexual things, I want to be as least sexualized as I can be just personally. I know some people take on the title “lesbian” proudly, but it is hard for others because of this and that is ok. Also it may be an unpopular take, but I actually really appreciate people censoring words like “corn” because I think it takes the power away from them. Some words hold a lot of negative power over a lot of people, so it can be a positive thing to censor them and hold them in an observational light during discussions. I don’t think you necessarily have to interchange those words everywhere, but having educational safe spaces online can empower a lot of people.

[@jewelamina]

i agree with you x

[@martamarinelli413]

Same..tbh before and even now saying the word lesbian feels uncomfortable, because that's how everyone saw it when i was a kid, as a kid i thought that the word was an insult 😅

[@ariesmarsexpress]

Historically, lesbian representation in media has faced significant challenges. For many years, happy endings for lesbian characters were rare, often due to censorship or societal pressures. Even today, there's a concerning trend of lesbian-themed shows being cancelled or altered if they portray happy, functional relationships. While various factors contribute to this issue, it's important to acknowledge the role that internalized homophobia, even within the LGBTQ+ community, can play in perpetuating negative stereotypes. One common trope is the portrayal of lesbians as perpetually unhappy or traumatized. While such representation can resonate with some who have experienced hardship, it's crucial to recognize that this limited portrayal reinforces harmful stereotypes and can hinder broader societal acceptance. It's essential to advocate for diverse and nuanced representations of lesbians in media, showcasing the full spectrum of their experiences, including joy, love, and success.

[@Nothereforit174]

So that’s a myth about too much struggle and it forced marginalized artists to feel compelled to cater to idealism rather than create art that offers them commentary and catharsis. There is room for it all. But lesbian women will not stop to make other people more comfortable(often white lesbians) And it feels like you are trying to educate her in this comment like she wouldn’t already know all this and probably because your media is what’s relevant to you, but central to you more importantly. Kind of condescending and off putting. But you won’t be my censor as an artist. You make it. And get out of our faces. No one will stop you. You’ll be embraced even, if it’s good! But until then, you get what you get

[@jewelamina]

thank you 🙏🏾

[@ariesmarsexpress]

@@Nothereforit174 Things are not always as they may seem. I was merely picking up on her thought about the portrayal of lesbians in media, the vast majority of which over the past 100 years has been to portray it as a *choice* that ended in misery and death, but by all means, alienate as many allies as you choose to.

[@margpeach]

It’s hard to find wlw media that doesn’t feel like it’s made to fetishize the relationships.

[@menheramorii]

Just started a really long trip and im so glad to have something to listen to now. thank God for Jewel uploads.

[@jewelamina]

thank yewwww & please drive safely 🙏🏾

[@Nihilistic._.Mystic78]

You put so much effort into these videos and it shows! I really appreciate the amount of research that is behind this video, and your personal experience added another layer of insight on it. And as a lesbian myself, I'm so excited to see your movie!! Although I'm white, it still bothers me how queer representation in general is so centered around white people, like you said in the video we come in many shapes and forms and i just can't see how that is portrayed in the film!

[@jewelamina]

thank you so much. omg! yes. like in movies, it’s one dimensional, it when you go into the world that you realise just how diverse the community is

[@Yukinoomoni]

"Why do I have a crush on Poussey?!" My dear! Because she was amazing and real! I LOVED her!

[@jewelamina]

yessss 😭. i cried when she was gone omg!

[@Yukinoomoni]

@jewelamina for days! I couldn't watch the show for a while after that episode. It's so painful. Everything that led up to that moment, and all that happens after... Oof.

[@jewelamina]

i rewatched it again either early this year or ending of last year and after she died, i stopped watching it too. idk why they killed off her character 😭

[@Yukinoomoni]

@jewelamina Thank you, exactly! I've never gotten over it and I still cannot watch the scene. When I first watched it, I was not warned or prepared, and I shattered. She was the one I had imprinted on the most, and... Yeah. That's a hurt that will never heal 😭!

[@jewelamina]

😭😭😭

[@NoxAeterna-wf4iv]

This other day encountered a Bi individual, who said they would support "Male lesbians". I am like, "Do you even know, where that term came from and how much of a Lesbian erasure that is?" I corrected them in a comment but don't know, if they saw it or not.

[@jewelamina]

omg! just hearing of male lesbians for the first time myself so i went to do some research & i’m even more confused. some sources refer to them as ‘dyke’? but isn’t that the word for lesbians? i’m so confused. i also came along this interesting thread on reddit. www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/s/VQd02OK9HJ … warning: you may get even more confused lol

[@haventpickedanameyet2527]

They might mean trans amab lesbians, like mtf women. Hopefully

[@NoxAeterna-wf4iv]

@haventpickedanameyet2527 nah, they didn't mean them. They meant Cis straight men. 😭

[@rattgod]

Misogyny and homophobia, classic combo. A lot of males do not believe lesbians are actually same sex attracted.

[@rattgod]

@@haventpickedanameyet2527those aren’t lesbians. A lesbian is a female homosexual, and sex isn’t assigned, it’s observed at birth. This is homophobic and misogynistic to suggest that a male can be a lesbian.

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

“A DAY WITHOUT LESBIANS IS LIKE A DAY WITHOUT SUNSHINE!”🗣️🗣️🗣️✍️✍️✍️🔥🔥🔥

[@jewelamina]

!!!

[@undercoverfangirl5491]

Did you link that I kissed a girl song in the description? Also I loved the video and as a lesbian who still has trouble calling myself one or not always screaming it from the rooftops (although my sexuality is no one else’s business so that’s fine lol) I’m very grateful you made a video like this.

[@jewelamina]

thanks for reminding me. i just did. and thank you so so much

[@ab-vu7fj]

That title scared me but I never tell men I date I'm queer or have been with women so they wont sexualize me. I know that's not the best solution but it protects me from weirdos. I only tell women I trust I'm queer.

[@ab-vu7fj]

OUUUU, I’m really enjoying this discussion! I've had experiences where only fems have wanted to date me because I’m the taller fem, but then they try to masculinize me. I always make it clear that I’m not comfortable with that because I identify as a fem or sapphic. When they start referring to me as "their man," I know it's time to end things.

[@jewelamina]

honestly i understand. it’s not everyone i meet irl i tell too.

[@aliasanew3398]

This video is so fucking powerful. Thank you and I appreciate your experience. This is continued confirmation that all of our experience has meaning.

[@aliasanew3398]

Beautiful being inside and out

[@aliasanew3398]

You are

[@jewelamina]

thank you

[@jewelamina]

🥰

[@aliasanew3398]

@@jewelamina yw 🫶🏽

[@zoe4168]

Thank you for such a well-made and broad video! The part about the work within the community definitely hit. I don't wanna put the whole blame on the queer community, but I've definitely experienced lesbophobia from fellow queer people as well....shows that there's still a long way to go, but I don't think these people meant to be harmful. Unfortunately, lesbophobia is very insidious.

[@jewelamina]

you’re welcome

[@jewelamina]

honestly! there a long way to go that’s why we have to keep creating awareness

[@digimonalvatrax2738]

I learned a lot from this. Thank you for teaching me to be more sensitive about sexualities other than heterosexual

[@hex-i4q]

i found what im going to watch for 55 minutes

[@jewelamina]

🥰

[@jabbersjay6871]

I’m just now finding you and wow! I love your energy and your aesthetic :) thank you for speaking on this and helping opening the convo! Blessings love 🫶🏽

[@clampity]

i just found your channel and your deep dives are great to listen to on the train or just when im bored. keep it up 👍✨

[@laymayday]

Ooooo, now I’m excited to see your movie! 🤩

[@jewelamina]

Very soon!

[@Belisonte-dl4gd]

One theory ive had is that men aren't that much into lesbian porn, it's more about controlling homosexuality in a time where women were just starting getting in control of their sexuality and just flat out rejecting men. I would argue a lot of men who likes trans porn today would be the same people who would have also been really into lesbian stuff back in the 80s-90s because ultimately its about control

[@venusmcintire3006]

Thanks!

[@jewelamina]

thank you venus 🥰❤️

[@jaythamalt]

Great video, deserves more views!

[@jewelamina]

Much appreciated! Glad you think so!

[@The_Man_On_The_Moon]

To this day, women are still considered a thriving market sector so by resonance, lesbians are necessarily too. And it must be admitted that some women take a malicious pleasure in playing the game, if only for money. It is for this reason that separatism seems to me to be necessary from now on. There will never be true freedom without a clear and definitive separation !

[@BassicallyKiyash]

This is a good breakfast watch

[@freepeltiple2]

Going thru the vid- personally I think the generational trauma of sex hits every side extremely hard. Coming from a man (alter) i think a part of the extreme lesbianism sexualization feel very.... projection heavy? Historically and otherwise: while in the military, while in school, while at work- men have a long history of being surrounded by other men. If you spend all day kind-of-but-not-allowed-to think your buddy is kinda hot, you might try to drown the internal homosexual feelings with the sex your are "supposed" to like, aka women. But they are also in a homosexual encounter, showing only women involved in a sexual encounter can reinforce the gender roles-- women can have fun, men go to work and make money and be miserable. Growing up imagine how many times youve heard boys calling other boys "gay" for any amount of feminity. Yet girls can easily confuse romantic love with friendship and extremely close relationships are seen as "just girls being girls". Im jealous, everytime i talk to someone I MUST be trying to creep on them, women or men or otherwise. It messes with your head man.

[@freepeltiple2]

If im taught that my feminity=homosexuality, then lesbian corn just makes sense as a fantasy, a not-real place that scratches a part of your brain not allowed within the "real life"

[@jewelamina]

If I’m getting what you’re saying, you’re pointing out how society’s rules around gender and sexuality can really mess with people’s heads, especially men. You’re saying that men, especially when surrounded by other men, often have to hide any feelings that don’t fit the norm and act super into women just to prove themselves. and this keeps up these strict roles where men can’t show vulnerability. Meanwhile, women get to have close, emotional friendships without judgment?. and you mentioned how hard it is for you because when you try to connect with people, you’re seen as being creepy, which just adds to feeling alone and confused. Did I understand you correctly?

[@freepeltiple2]

@@jewelamina i believe so! I mean, most human emotions are "outside the norm" for whats expected of men from the patriarchy. Not just feelings of queerness, but basic emotions like sadness, or anger are taught to be exaggerated, or repressed. I shouldnt have spoken on other relationships I dont know about, its just what ive seen from the sidelines, my apologies genuinely. Maybe its my trauma talking, ive never had a close platonic friendships. A part of it has been bc people would make comments and assume, and it gets internalized and uncomfortable in my own skin. I am sorry to rant here in your comment section 💀 I appreciate you taking the time, and the care that is in your response. 🙏

[@jewelamina]

awww. i can see where you’re coming from, and it sounds like you’re carrying a lot of weight around these ideas of connection and how people are perceived. it must be exhausting to always feel like you have to defend your intentions or deal with being misunderstood. I’m glad you shared this with me, and I hope you know you’re not alone in feeling that way. How do you think we can start breaking down some of those barriers, so everyone can feel more free to connect without judgment?

[@freepeltiple2]

@@jewelamina I think that judgement is still important in any connection, equally important is to know what you are judging- the person or the systems that cultivated their personhood? In a metaphorical sense, I dont think the barriers of judgement should be broken (yet!) but more of gone right through. (Something agreed and vunerable). If theres not a connecting point to go through, then we could go around. But I believe the barriers are set up in such a way that is generational trauma at work- trauma around finding a next meal, trauma around hunting for said meal, trauma around uncontrollable temperatures, trauma around access to knowledge (and resources) of tools and tech, etcetc. Breaking the barriers I think would only raise up others that are hidden to us, until later. Im glad to have had an invitation to respond, fighting through urges to remain unseen has been difficult. Thank you for your question, and taking the time and care into your responses. I appreciate it, and am wishing you and anyone reading the best. anything that 'the best' means to you 🫶

[@kaiquew7312]

awesome!

[@jewelamina]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@PlanetMarz12-m6r]

Hiii JEWEL ❤❤

[@jewelamina]

heyyyy 🥰