Let me tell you about chord planing

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@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
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@LestatAlone
@LestatAlone 10 ай бұрын
I know that this video is 2 years old, but the message is so important. Theory is a tool, not the law.
@thelateraledge
@thelateraledge 3 жыл бұрын
This is a little off topic but here's a little tip when it comes to sampling chords. When you sample the chord, sample it being played using the higher octave range, then play it back on your sampler at the correct octave range. Sampling at the higher octaves then playing at the correct octave once sampled will create some nice lofi artifacts and grit in the chord. Back in the day people did this because of the limited sample time available on samplers and the work around was to sample at higher octaves which created a shorter overall sample time length thus saving them vital storage space. They would also do this when sampling from record, if the record was 33 they would sample it at the 45 speed, then play it back at the correct speed once sampled. If you're trying to recreate those "good life" type chord stabs, using this method of sampling makes a huge difference and gives a much more "era authentic" feel to the chords. Sometimes truncating a little of the start of the chord helps so it's triggering slightly into the waveform, this is nice if you want a more of a sharper sound as you are also extending the original ADSR parameters when pitching the sample back down. This technique also works really well for pad sounds that have some kind of modulation as it stretches out things like lfo lengths to odd timings or lengths beyond what the original synthesizer was capable of. It takes a little bit more time to do, but if you sample a chord using both methods and then compare the two you will hear the difference. The higher up the octave you play the original chord before sampling, the more lofi the sampled sound will be, so there is a bit of experimenting to find the sweet spot.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
This is a freaking amazing comment, super super helpful tips :)
@thelateraledge
@thelateraledge 3 жыл бұрын
@@OscarUnderdog No probs man, glad to give something back to the channel, sharing is caring 😜
@bornshamir7792
@bornshamir7792 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Aliasing is gold!
@darkskinwhite
@darkskinwhite 2 жыл бұрын
yeah it's not a necessity anymore but you're really just downsampling.
@foxchevyslumarietta1211
@foxchevyslumarietta1211 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelateraledge Thank YOU!!!!!!
@kookiespace
@kookiespace 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the gatekeeping around music theory reminds me of linguistics. Actual linguistics is the descriptive study of language. There's very few things that are linguistically wrong. It's always about trying to explain why people might be speaking a certain way and how concepts are connected between languages. But that's not the view of it you'd get in some corners of the internet. With music theory it feels very similar: music theory is the descriptive study of music. There's very few things that are music theoretically wrong. It's about trying to explain why certain kinds of music sound a certain way, and to compare concepts. Maybe that's a comparison you can use too. Feels like a lot of people look at music theory as this beast that's telling them what to do when it's really just an analytical framework
@kookiespace
@kookiespace 3 жыл бұрын
also wow good face at 0:00 :D
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
This is a super good comparison, mega thanks for suggesting it! 🤘
@deepanshusingal9207
@deepanshusingal9207 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Actually this principle works with other things too 👍
@anthonyparks505
@anthonyparks505 3 жыл бұрын
It's not just an analytical framework, it can give you options when you don't know where to go. It also can help you improvise. I don't claim to use theory all over the place in my music, but it does help me go to new directions with chord progressions. A VST plugin like Scaler2 set to Modal Interchange mode can show you the creative power of theory.
@kuverab.7730
@kuverab.7730 2 жыл бұрын
Cannot agree more. As you say, and like any other theorytical or software/hardware knowledge, tool, a lot of people think it will be a "game changer" and something you must follow. It helps to understand a lot of things, it helps to create, compose, but it only helps (eventhoug it can do a bit more 😅).
@VeziCaEu
@VeziCaEu Жыл бұрын
1st video that i can begin to understand the theory... 2 thumbs up... big fan of this channel!!!
@schlechtestergtaspielerdek3851
@schlechtestergtaspielerdek3851 Жыл бұрын
"Once you free your mind about the concept of harmony and of music being correct, you can do whatever you want". Amazing Video!
@jnny7182
@jnny7182 Жыл бұрын
You are a gifted, exceptional teacher.
@luandenk.8166
@luandenk.8166 2 жыл бұрын
how precisely lovecraft hit one of the most iconic themes of the human mind is when you see its tentacle randomly pop up in electronic music plugin names
@user-MrsYT
@user-MrsYT 2 жыл бұрын
"the tool dictates" - thats why i love to use the TB-303/TD-3 sequencer: the "fuzzyness" while you basicly program in your mind without a display, the outcome is always very refreshing and it gives a feeling of "we both playing/creating together" instead of its just me who program the sequences
@vulvaether5169
@vulvaether5169 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks maatje your a great teacher! Keep up the great work. Love from Somalia, one day inshallah I will make Somalian techno thanks to your YT channel. Bismillah
@Cybercowboy_69
@Cybercowboy_69 3 жыл бұрын
You have the greatest music production channel. Please keep up the great work! And thank you!
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Akshay, thanks for saying that!
@flipperpitstudio
@flipperpitstudio 2 ай бұрын
“The tool has priority over the theory.” I’m saving that one. 😎👍 Awesome vid! Thx!
@craig7810
@craig7810 Жыл бұрын
Oscar you are an excellent teacher.
@peterelfman
@peterelfman 2 жыл бұрын
The impact this video just had on me in incalculable. Chord planing is not talked about in my music theory travels as a baby producer, and I wonder if that has to do with the fact that most entities that champion Music Theory are really pushing a very specific outlook towards music, which a lot of modern music genres and creation methods eschews. I will definitely be playing with chord planing in my future productions. Thank you SO MUCH for putting this video out.
@DrClocktopus1
@DrClocktopus1 3 жыл бұрын
Always saw things like the "chord memory" on something like a juno and thought 'why, it isn't in key?' now I understand!
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, exactly! That's a great example of how this concept manifests itself. Similar to the Ableton "chord" midi device: you create one shape, and don't adjust it to any scale, and it gives those kind of results. At first I also thought this limitation was a real problem as I was thinking diatonically, but with planing it opens up other perspectives :)
@leoouellette3835
@leoouellette3835 3 жыл бұрын
WOW! thank you soooo much for this video. I have been into electronic music for 30+ years as a dj, producer, dancer, and fan. You have unveiled some heavy, masterful secrets with this video. Thank you so much.
@sagsounds4509
@sagsounds4509 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Oscars for your kind sharing!
@JamesRamboPearce
@JamesRamboPearce 3 жыл бұрын
I love to just try adding a major instead of the minor of a chord (or vice versa obviously) to see if it's more interesting! Very much agree "if it sounds good, it is good!" No rules needed
@anthonyparks505
@anthonyparks505 3 жыл бұрын
Ok so this topic is near and dear to me. I had never heard of chord planing til today, but its clearly used all over music, particularly guitar music. I think it may be worth for your viewers to explore the related topic of parallel harmony or “borrowed chords”. There are perfect examples of this in the book The Songwriting Secrets of The Beatles by Dominic Pedler (get the kindle edition....everyone should read this book even if they find the beatles boring, you will learn something about chord progressions). You’ll also hear this prominently in the French band AIR (they love to use flat III, the move from C to Eb major for surprise (Eb maj is the third degree chord from the C minor scale) This means chords from the parallel minor or borrowed from other modes. For example the major III, VI, or most famously from Radiohead’s Creep, the move from IV to iv (F major to F minor) Yes thats more theory heavy but once you hear the effects of these borrowed chords in popular songs you can easily create these harmonic effects in your songs. You can discover some basic borrowed chord effects by doing the following. Write down all the chords in C major, and all the chords in C minor. Now mix chords from these keys and you may discover some of the interesting harmonies that result from using “parallel chords.”. Its not as easy as moving shapes freely around your instrument, but I only add this here to provide more options for your viewers. And as always, be true to your ear (:
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome comment man, thanks for sharing!
@Normandy_Mike
@Normandy_Mike 3 жыл бұрын
What's amazing about this channel is the breadth of insight it provides.
@electrosonicnebula
@electrosonicnebula 3 жыл бұрын
I think when a lot of musicians start looking at progressions or creating their own they quickly realize that diatonic harmony is just one kind of harmony, or that it can contain loads of exceptions and departures from the simple rules of deriving chords strictly from the scale. Or you can adjust the scale to fit into the diatonic paradigm. For instance if you got a "natural" minor with a flat 6 then the IV chord will be minor but if you want to play the major IV chord, which sounds awesome in minor then switch to the so call "Dorian" minor scale with a sharp 6 to accommodate that and you're still adhering strictly to diatonic playing. But then you don't have to and passing tones or chromatic playing might sound awesome. My impression is that strictly diatonic stuff is what a lot of classical music is made of, but then harmony becomes more complicated with jazz and pop forms. Anyway a lot of the Romantic composers used dissonance and I'm sure their progressions digressed from the diatonic stuff
@huntingghosts
@huntingghosts 7 ай бұрын
Very interesting! I do play the guitar so I already knew the concept without knowing it has a name, but I never made the transfer of how it would apply it to electronic music. One thing I'd like to add is that when you play open Chords on a guitar in that way you transpose the notes on the strings that your left and presses, while the open strings maintain the same note. This can lead to some very interesting harmonics.
@OKtunes
@OKtunes 3 жыл бұрын
As a guitar player, I can also attest to the “shape theory”. Many 90’s grunge or alt would take a standard chord shape and simply slide it up around the neck, letting the open strings continue to ring out. The chord names would look like the craziest thing ever, but it’s actually very easy to play on a guitar. The ringing open strings would really fill out a sound and give it a distinctive sound. I used to think guitar players knew all these chords, but quickly realized that they just played around with chord shapes and what sounded good. Same thing with repeating pedal tones. Great videos, I’m learning a ton and really enjoying it.
@snidedj
@snidedj 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for this. I get bogged down in the theory a lot and it slows down my process, this has been useful to remind me to play around with sound more
@krnflks
@krnflks 3 ай бұрын
Another important thing about that Donna Summer track is that the sequence of chords ends on the E major chord, which will lead the ear back to the A major. It's like they took a base sequence in A minor (the A - C - D - E root notes) and spammed major harmony over it. Could also say they took a I - III - IV - V sequence in A major and just played it as A minor for the middle two chords. That's why theory is a lot of fun to understand, you can view one thing a few different ways and use any of these interpretations to craft a more interesting piece.
@HB3YIW
@HB3YIW 3 жыл бұрын
Oscar, I really like your teaching. You are always calm and explain very well. I learned so much from your channel. Other channels are too much hyper in their presentation. Hopefully your channel grows big 👍
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Benjamin :) :)
@maxgindt
@maxgindt 3 жыл бұрын
Oscar, that was a really nice message on keeping the communication kind! Your videos rock and we are all getting better because of you. Education at its best. Dank u well!
@jackbylsma3426
@jackbylsma3426 2 жыл бұрын
the chord in the pixies songs you can also look at it as its in the key of #f its just inverted. The 7ths are usually the notes in the scale to help move the key in the song. In the key of f# it would be a major chord but since were in G it would sound diminished.
@dismalwanderer
@dismalwanderer Жыл бұрын
The theme of this video once again confirms that you need to allow yourself to do what you like and even a little above the rules. Quite usefull stuff good job!
@travisbasso6496
@travisbasso6496 8 ай бұрын
I am loving these videos and your overall approach to teaching! And I really love "let's try not to gatekeep this topic too much" -- wow! What great framing that really points to how music theory can be exclusionary, but also being very western oriented it denies other approaches and paradigms around what music can be.
@RemyLuciani
@RemyLuciani 2 жыл бұрын
I'm more a prog/jazz guy with the head full of theory, able to improvise (at a modest level) and struggling to be creative. "Let your tools guide you" is such an interesting tip and the example you share illustrate it perfectly. Theory brain: "mmmh interesting choice of chord, how did they come to that!?". Music brain: "use a sequencer/sampler, I don't care, it sounds!". Quite a contrast for me. I'm training myself using synth and tools around, I appreciate the tips on the sampling! Reminds me electro/dance of the 90's I listened to with my brothers and from old PlayStation games back in the day. Thanks for the nostalgia. ;) And to add something about theory with positivity: using a III major instead of minor is one of the choice of _Chromatic Mediants_. Chromatic mediants are often used in contemporary scores and if someone reading this does not know it, I think Ryan Leach made a good video about it. :) Enjoy!
@RosssRoyce
@RosssRoyce 3 жыл бұрын
This chord shift to me musically signifies that they gave the melody a Spanish nuance at this spot, it can be either a result of such an intention or like you say result of shifting a chord shape down on the guitar - in any case, these Spanish progressions are played just like that: sliding the same chord shape up a semitone, a whole tone, then same reverse down. I can think of a song El Diablo by Grace Slick (is on KZbin) that has this lovely vibe! Thanks for your amazing videos! If you have time, make one day one about vocal line phrases composition in techno and trance, they are not long but hit the target usually!
@Letzal
@Letzal 2 жыл бұрын
in fact, in flamenco, a very common resolution is to make G, F, E, all major.
@pingking1310
@pingking1310 2 жыл бұрын
thank you man! you helping young producers to not stick their head so much into theory and do what they like to do!!!
@difflocktwo
@difflocktwo 2 жыл бұрын
This video is amazing for noobs. I had to watch it twice to catch most things, but it answers a lot of questions.
@krysidian
@krysidian 3 жыл бұрын
Really cool approach to creating chords and melodies and wonderfully explained. It really has this ostinato effect to it where repetition and patterns really help when using notes that would be in an unusual or nonexistent key. This technique also really frees you up when you are stuck in music theory! ^^
@cjpizzixbmc
@cjpizzixbmc 2 жыл бұрын
Extra 👍for referencing The Pixies!
@kewk
@kewk 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Oscar! Great video brother. Honestly, I think I like this one the most as it's depth goes beyond just teaching how to do something. It is in my opinion that far too many people learn how to do "this" and don't understand the fundamentals of how or even why. This video really helps with both of those. I also like how eloquently you pre-emptived the nerds :)
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Haha cheers Kewk 😁🙏 i appreciate this.
@ArmoredMeat
@ArmoredMeat Жыл бұрын
I was going to say the same thing. Of all the videos I have watched so far I really enjoyed this one. A little theory, a dash of song analysis with a pinch of pushing the “guidelines” of music.
@robotussin_synths
@robotussin_synths 2 жыл бұрын
Love this. Just found this channel and love the style and delivery. Not too slow, not too basic but really human. Nice work!
@BigFknRobots
@BigFknRobots 3 жыл бұрын
I love videos like this, sent this to a student of mine who has a masters of classical music but is just getting started in Ableton Live / Electronic music production. You explain the concepts very well for a wide range of skill levels and backgrounds, eg. people with not a lot of music theory background but are delving deeper into electronic tools and helping them understand some ideas behind what they are doing. or people who actually have a lot of music theory background but are starting out with electronic music tools and the differing approaches they can have to your music (along with an over view of historical context!) Any many people in between! One other example I don't think you mentioned that I think also applies, (alongside resampling chords / rave stabs and sequencer/programmable arp tricks) is tuning oscillators of a synth to a fixed interval. I think this is how I first came across this idea on some presets for a Korg MS2000 I had in the 2000's, and probably Native Instruments old Pro-53 Vst. Just tuning osc 1 to normal and osc 2 to +7, +4 or +3 semitones (the 5th, major 3rd or minor 3rd) I found you can get some very prodigy sounding lead lines really easily with this!
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, that's such an excellent point, I wished I had included it in the video!!!
@ChristinaCxo
@ChristinaCxo Ай бұрын
This helped a lot. I was thinking too much inside of a box and was so confused when I tried to do chord planing. Now I feel unstuck :D Thanks!!
@arawncronnis3112
@arawncronnis3112 2 жыл бұрын
ive always thought bout how they created those house chords and i discovered it myself after doing some experimental stuff...but i never found a video addressing those stuff....now i finally got a detailed explanation thank you man,u r the best there is
@Cold_War_Warriors
@Cold_War_Warriors 3 жыл бұрын
Another quality tutorial Oscar. The best on KZbin.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
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@PeterPauz
@PeterPauz Жыл бұрын
Great Video Oscar! Thanks for constantly teaching me new stuff in a great and understanable way
@gradymartin8615
@gradymartin8615 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. For the Pixies, I believe that the fact that the B Major is the V of the G relative minor (E minor) and it resolves to a chord (C major) that belong to both scale (VI of E minor and IV of G major) also helps to glue the two scales together. That create a nice tension/release in a short 4 chords sequence.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Grady! Yeah I definitely see that. I think major II and major III are relatively common due to their strong relationships as you describe! Thanks for sharing!
@Strages_Powers
@Strages_Powers 3 жыл бұрын
you are one of the best teachers on youtube.
@frankgeppert8972
@frankgeppert8972 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting lesson: Forget theory, if it sounds good! I just recently listened to some lessons of a film score composer and she told the same, that she sometimes uses chord planning especially in transitions. And she has no technical restrictions, uses classical instruments.
@robertodellavalle7884
@robertodellavalle7884 2 жыл бұрын
It's common to make the iii grade of the scale into major in order to modulate to the minor vi grade of the scale
@StuSiney
@StuSiney 2 жыл бұрын
Needed to hear this.. I am not musically trained and naturally was chord planing... then started thinking about chord theory... started to get very restricted.. now I know I was doing it right for my house and rave music.. ty
@chrishaake8126
@chrishaake8126 3 жыл бұрын
A great video! Another way I explain these chord transpositions are through relative/parallel keys and secondary dominants. For instance the first progression in G, going to B, I would consider that B as the dominant of Em the relative scale to the home key G. The second progression in A, going to C, I would consider that C borrowed from the parallel key of A Minor which does contain the C Major. Using certain instruments is a great way to experiment and discover these cool sounds from another angle though and a great tool to experiment with in composition.
@johnmoumouris7342
@johnmoumouris7342 3 жыл бұрын
exactly, this is why it's sounds good, it is a chord borrowed from its related minor scale (to explain in a simple way) and gives a feeling of unexpected to the progression , but I think it is difficult to be fully understood by someone who doesn't know the basic Harmony Theory...
@chrishaake8126
@chrishaake8126 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnmoumouris7342 agreed, I know like he said in the video these chords used to perplex the hell out of me but eventually it became more clear. This is why shifting chord shapes like bar chords on a guitar or with a sequencer like mentioned in the video are a great way to find these, as you said, unexpected yet interesting sounds before fully comprehending why they still work.
@abetusk
@abetusk 3 жыл бұрын
Can you point to some resource (video, blog post, book, etc.) that explains this further? Is this related to "borrowed chords"? I know Signals Music Studio had a video on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXrHpaesf7iYmsk ...
@hvatalnik
@hvatalnik 3 жыл бұрын
@@abetusk Check out Rick Beato's videos How To Use Modulations Part 1 and Part 2. He explains about a dozen different ways you can use to make your progressions more interesting. This particular "trick" is called chromatic mediant.
@chrishaake8126
@chrishaake8126 3 жыл бұрын
@@abetusk yeah that video by signals looks good and should be all about this topic. Borrowed chords being borrowed from parallel and relative keys most often.
@nicklausmusic
@nicklausmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Single-handedly learn more from this channel than anywhere else. Great job as always
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Nicklaus :) :)
@relo4dmusic
@relo4dmusic 3 жыл бұрын
definitely a good approach to avoid this "fear to touch" the piano roll when we are uncomfortable with the music theory structure we want to make for the track
@grb321
@grb321 8 ай бұрын
Great video! I think it's useful to point out that if you play a C major triad sample over an A, then you're hearing an A minor 7 chord, so at some level you can change the major sample to a minor sample -- it's just no longer the entire chord.
@petea8644
@petea8644 2 жыл бұрын
You can also think of it as a "Borrowed Chord", and yes, as long as it sounds good you don't have to ask any questions, you only start asking further question when you try to fit a melody over it, or adjust the bass, and that one chord seems to cause chaos if you're following basic diatonic theory.
@ItsJADA
@ItsJADA 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting by myself saying "Chord Planing".... Your voice is kinda iconic
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
💛🥰
@ItsJADA
@ItsJADA 3 жыл бұрын
I kid you not.... My mate described your voice like hearing a friend's voice on the phone without introduction, you know who it is 😂 not my words but that's why I commented
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
@@ItsJADA Hahaha that genuinely makes me happy, thanks for sharing 😁
@chonkypixel1006
@chonkypixel1006 3 жыл бұрын
I had a quick listen to the Pixies track and noticed they used the word "strange" alongside that weird-sounding non-diatonic chord. This is a great example of working the lyrics and music together to emphasise an idea or feeling. For example, imagine holding back on major chords and only playing minor chords for a whole verse, then kicking off the chorus with a major chord over a positive-sounding word like "Freedom", "Love" or "Release" (as a trivial example.) I've heard this called "Prosody".
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Chonky! Yeah that's such an excellent point. I think a lot of pop music uses these kinds of devices and it can feel so clever when you catch it in action :D
@chonkypixel1006
@chonkypixel1006 3 жыл бұрын
@@arcadepiano Another trick I hear a lot is using a minor key, then changing key to the relative major for the chorus.
@mattbukovski92
@mattbukovski92 2 жыл бұрын
B-major chord is just a dominant to e-minor which is a parallel scale to G-major (the key of that song). Not sure if it's "chord planing" or rather a secondary dominant :) and if you actually switch your thinking to e-minor for a moment, it's resolved in form of a "deceptive cadence" V -> VI (B major to C major) as an irregular resolution.
@distantcomets
@distantcomets 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’ve been using these techniques for ages but have never seen them explained this simply. When it comes to hip hop and dance music the techniques and the features of the gear used to make them always went hand in hand. “Chord mode” on certain synths and sampled chords made this music feel fresh and surprising compared to the “by the rules” chord theoretical or classical approach. So fun!
@elusivemite
@elusivemite 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see someone talking about his. I had no theory when I started and always worked by ear. Planing was second nature. Always interesting content
@djsarumawashi
@djsarumawashi 2 жыл бұрын
WICKED!!! Thank you for Sharing. Greetings from Cabo Verde Islands. Cheers
@rayderrich
@rayderrich 3 жыл бұрын
A lovely video that almost makes me want to travel to Belgium to get some one-on-one education. Thank you for spending your time on teaching others.
@jetset808
@jetset808 3 жыл бұрын
This is something i've been thinking about a lot but could never put it into words.. thanks.. this really really helped me a lot
@Osax-music
@Osax-music 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, suddenly music theory makes sense now
@lifeispower
@lifeispower Жыл бұрын
Maravilloso tutorías oscar, muchas gracias por ayudarme a soltar el miedo a jugar con los parámetros de mis máquinas y dejarme guiar por ellos :) Un abrazo desde Valencia, España
@fraicheness
@fraicheness Жыл бұрын
Going through all the videos! This one‘s super useful
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog Жыл бұрын
Yeah it felt like a bit of a magic trick when I discovered it!
@MarctheDarc
@MarctheDarc 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative and well presented. Though I'm amazed you can touch this subject, without mentioning the chord-memory functions often found on the polyphonic synths, used by 80's and 90's electronic artists. Also an all round theory tip for those using sampled chords. While it's true you can't change a sampled chord. Playing a major triad sample 3 semitones over a bass note, will in effect create a minor 7th. The same works with playing a minor triad sample 4 semitones over the bass to create a major 7th. Or a diminished chord 4 semitones over bass to create a dominant 7 chord. This is called a rootless chord voicing (or something in those lines).
@andycordy5190
@andycordy5190 2 жыл бұрын
Lightbulb moment! Thank you! I never bothered with theory at all until recently and I've been writing songs for decades😱. I've used "Chord planing" because I often write on the guitar and also with sequences (I learned with pro 24 in the mid 80's) but the essential, pounding repetition of house and techno was a real barrier for me and has remained so. Recently I have come to understand the circle of fifths and the conventions of harmony and I would like to apply this new knowledge to add a dimension to my writing that was missing, without falling into the formulaic patterns acceptable in pop culture. Your examples here are so well chosen. They are all in very different ways iconic pioneering musical ideas. One thing that really surprised me was how you got from the root notes of the "I feel love." chords to the sequencer riff. I'm going back to it to see if I can understand how, initially, they sound like harmony when you played them on the piano but plugging them into the sequencer they sounded scrunchy and inharmonic. It's that minus 5 and minus 2 moment. I'll get there. Thanks again.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet comment, thanks :)
@ohstirfry
@ohstirfry 3 жыл бұрын
Parallel harmony is steeling a note from the same key but different scale. Basic example: play in C major but steel C minors E flat, so when playing a C chord in a progression, just switch between the major and minor chord every time the C chord comes up in the progression.
@fano72
@fano72 3 жыл бұрын
Finally you explained the principle of house music. Love it 🎧
@da5idblacksun
@da5idblacksun 2 жыл бұрын
Incredibly insightful. This is so cool.
@CapriciousBlackBox
@CapriciousBlackBox 3 жыл бұрын
Music theory, (like science) is descriptive, not prescriptive. Music itself (like many of the arts) is both an objective *and* subjective endeavour. Ultimately music theory must be slave to the art itself, not the reverse. "If it just sounds good, it is good!" Cheers!
@sebastianpasso7271
@sebastianpasso7271 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Oscar, is always a pleasure :)
@ggandthemix
@ggandthemix 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant! Thanks for taking the time to make this video, Underdog :)
@ThePunkster101
@ThePunkster101 2 жыл бұрын
Can't thank you enough Oscar. Thank you for bringing nuance and artistry to electronic music. ❤️
@k4rb0n3
@k4rb0n3 3 жыл бұрын
honestly this channel should be illegal; you are unveiling all of the secrets it's crazy. great job man. I was also stunned that you are a fellow bruxelloise. Would love to meet you at some point
@carlcaulkett3050
@carlcaulkett3050 Жыл бұрын
Really interesting video, Oscar! As someone who started off with guitar and Ted Greene’s “Chord Chemistry” book, I quickly realised that a lot of the songs I loved were using Chord Planing, even if I didn’t use that term, and that this was undoubtedly caused by people using a major barre chord and sliding it up and down the scale. I also realised that this was totally okay, as long as it sounded good. The one example I can think of where it didn’t work was “Bela Lugosi’s Dead” by Bauhaus, which has an A major, C major, B major progression. The C major sounds okay, but the D# note in the B major just jars like crazy - just a B5 would have been much better, IMNSHO 😉
@breathinginpizza
@breathinginpizza 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Oscar i really love your channel. Composing is always challenging for me, now i'm a lot more inspired
@TheBoxChart
@TheBoxChart Жыл бұрын
Same goes for visual art. There is color theory, perspective, proportion and lighting... And yet most artist produced timeless art exactly by breaking these rules. Theory is just the foundation of any practice, and tell you how and why something works well. Then there is creativity and discovery, which is what art is about.
@lucminax
@lucminax 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you Oscar
@alandunphy6746
@alandunphy6746 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Oscar gonna try those principles
@martinparidon9056
@martinparidon9056 Жыл бұрын
Yes this was very helpful, thank you very much!
@mrllex0070
@mrllex0070 2 жыл бұрын
excellent. u helped me to understand what tricks they use to create hits escaping the music theory
@19994able
@19994able 3 жыл бұрын
Great content as always! I also wondered how this was possible being able to use major and minor chords interchangeably despite the scale. What i've discovered since then is that all you're doing is using different modes e.g. a raised 4th scale degree in major is the lydian Mode so any chords that are in the path of the raised 4th will either change to a major, minor or diminished chord. Knowing which modes are either side of major or minor scales can help out massively because you know that there will only be 1 note that is changed in the scale so it will always sound good. Changing more chords in the scale just means that you are moving further away from major / minor in the modes. It's definitely worth it to try and memories the chord pattern of each mode if your already familiar with the major and minor scale chords
@johnarmstrong6523
@johnarmstrong6523 3 жыл бұрын
I've always struggled with the theory, thank you for showing this video, I now sort of understand my own mind and the processes it goes through to create.
@jasonvalesio6020
@jasonvalesio6020 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah so what is actually happening in the first song is a secondary dominant (the V/vi ) resolving deceptively to a IV chord, which is actually a very common chord change in music and absolutely makes sense if u know music theory. In the Donna Summers song the chord change is I, bVI (modal interchange from the parallel minor), IV, V. Again a pretty common chord change and makes complete sense theoretically. But thanks for the video. It was nice
@paropticVision
@paropticVision 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. I'd always wondered how that was really done. I didn't have a sampler so the nearest I could get to it was using Chord Memory on one of my synths. Some of the Korgs and Rolands from the 80s had it. You could record a chord and then play it with one note. I used to think it was probably born out of using hardware to assist when a musician didn't have much musical training. Then I guess it was probably adopted by others and became a characteristic sound. Really interesting how it fits with music theory.
@Flux_One
@Flux_One 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. You explain everything so well
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Scotty :) :)
@joshuaalexzander7578
@joshuaalexzander7578 2 жыл бұрын
I love this video in how you explained chord planning in a way that wasn’t over the top in music therapy. extremely helpful in my work planning and production progression. Please keep making videos for beginner like myself. Cheers.
@umanoid1523
@umanoid1523 3 жыл бұрын
Damn man. Music theory and Electronic music history all in one lesson. I have such a feeble grasp in music theory but Im now using tools such as captains and scaler 2 which to be honest have been very helpful in breaking patterns and exploring chords and melody. I find I sometimes play things that sound good that I think are in the scale and then find out they aren’t after double checking. I always end up changing the notes to make sure theyre in scale but after seeing this maybe i leave things alone if it still sounds good.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Umanoid! Good on you to try to build up more songwriting skills using those tools, it's definitely worthwhile. You're right about trusting your intuition though: if it makes you feel good, I think you can often leave it :) it's only when things start to sound "off, but in a bad way" that sometimes it's cool to use theory to nudge things back to a more comfortable place.
@tonescapes9673
@tonescapes9673 Жыл бұрын
Good words,if it sounds good it's good
@andrefarrell4463
@andrefarrell4463 3 жыл бұрын
That was so informative. Thank you once again Oscar!
@bitmaster2000
@bitmaster2000 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for your wisdom.
@Crunkjuice7878
@Crunkjuice7878 3 жыл бұрын
another good one! Thank u Oscar!
@max6419
@max6419 3 жыл бұрын
I am using that trick ralatively often and always wanted to understand that, thank you so much!
@Gnurklesquimp
@Gnurklesquimp 2 жыл бұрын
I remember how scared I was to go outside the key... Now I'm at the point where I comfortably write progressions where not a single chord is in the same key. Hell, sometimes the chords themselves aren't even diatonic, and these progressions don't even sound weird if you're smooth about it. I always heard ''there's no rules, just guidelines'', I didn't grasp just how true that is. I have a soundcloud where I quickly throw together ideas to demonstrate things (Pay no mind to the mix and incompleteness etc.), if you're interested you can look up ''11 Over The One Missing Note'' to see how balancing angular chromatic movement with intervals that hint at diatonics can make all the notes sound like they belong together, I'd also love to hear others' experiments of these sorts.
@stefanocolannino4910
@stefanocolannino4910 Жыл бұрын
beautiful man! your videos really go to the heartof music, giving so much inspiration. And your way of seeing music theory in my opinion matches also with Giorgio Moroder himself..when he says: once you free your mind about the concept of art and music being CORRECT, you can do whatever you want. Keep it up man, and thanks! :)
@bartjelories
@bartjelories 3 жыл бұрын
A well known example of using a parallel minor is the chord progress of the song " Creep " of radiohead. Key of G majeur, it goes Gmaj-Bmaj-Cmaj-Cminor. Notice the 3th as a major chord and the 4th goes from major to minor. Just wanted to share this with this awesome community, have a nice day.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
That's another great example!
@oldschoolsoldier1634
@oldschoolsoldier1634 3 жыл бұрын
That "good life" remake was spot on..This channel never disappoints! What about a vid or two on oldschool house?!
@nicolaswitczak560
@nicolaswitczak560 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating and inspiring! 💫 Thx Oscar!
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Nico 💚!
@jorisvangoor5936
@jorisvangoor5936 3 жыл бұрын
I've really gotten in some music theory over the past few years (where this is my favorite channel) and now that I know that stuff it is delicious to see how to break away from that stuff again also! I think this is your best movie so far, especially with the diverse examples!
@jonwatte4293
@jonwatte4293 2 жыл бұрын
Another good example is Heart Shaped Box by Nirvana, which is three chords -- A F D if I recall correctly. (D major with major third chord.)
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