LET'S ARGUE: Swans Are Boring

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[@primetime073]

This video is the length of a Swans song

[@askmeaboutworms786]

Jay the lenght of a napalm death album

[@wgo523]

A shortish one

[@BungleGrindClown]

It's also the length of some Tool and Pink Floyd songs

[@GrahamBarth]

What is length.

[@Alex-qn9og]

Shorter than Bring The Sun/ Toussaint L'Ouverture

[@pangometersen8834]

A swan once attacked me and I was very scared and not bored at all.

[@SahloFolina2161]

Jesus Christ are you ok?

[@imperfectanimal57]

Swans are acutely very territorial animals very similar to Canadian Geese. They are very protective of their babies and could swim very quickly towards you.

[@Stanhoc]

I dont like swans or ducks for that matter, why do ducks deserve to live, they dont even do anything. One time I was chased by loads of ducks and it really scared me, the ducks even tried to bite me. When I was very young I was feeding a duck and it bit my hand, it really hurt, since then I have had a major hatred towards ducks. They cant even fly, and neither can penguins, but they dont try. Ducks dont understand how retarded they are. One time a few years ago I mentioned I didnt like ducks and that person laughed, I dont understand what is funny about that. It is a serious issue in my life. Anyway swans kinda piss me off too.

[@interrexclamacion]

And that swan's name? Michael Gira.

[@Lunar_Atronach]

Makes sense, Swans are majestic, beautiful looking creatures. With really ugly temperaments

[@JashtheBrash]

"Swans are boring." Anthony: Yes, but actually no.

[@mikeynewPFF]

damn way to spoil the video

[@jason.duirwalder9719]

Swans are epic as fuck

[@Drogon7102]

@@inFAMOUSBlastshards no period?

[@BennyDogfish]

I mean I’ve been listening to Death grips for awhile and I still ask myself why is this man screaming.

[@IBESMusic94]

YEEUH

[@SenoritasEverywhere]

Sometimes we scream not to express our feelings, but to see who cares enough to tell us to shut up.

[@thegreatgamelord8640]

@@SenoritasEverywhere Shut up.

[@bhavyakukkar]

@@SenoritasEverywhere holy shit is this the real death grips

[@crazyluigi6664]

I believe it relates to him knowing about Hell's existence.

[@patricktervo2013]

They are though. All they do is just sit in the fuckin ponds and lakes all day. They don’t do anything! At least Dolan Dark is pretty cool.

[@youngishmaelthebasedprophe4334]

@@kylem5109 yup. he sure is.

[@thedrummererik99]

Anthony fantano is Dolan Dark

[@deiz1083]

@@thedrummererik99 bruh, pewds already revealed that he is dolan dark

[@mitchellgass4141]

If you've ever been near an angry swan you know they aren't that boring.

[@Ar-px4yd]

Patrick R. Tervo fax

[@fjosephm2]

0/10 thought it was gonna be about swans the animal

[@brandonayong7656]

i had the same dissaointement the first time i bought a beatles album .

[@ganon1028]

The Swan's escaped.

[@icebear4181]

Swans are cute. Wtf!

[@slattistcool]

@@icebear4181 they taste delicious

[@waseemnassour550]

Same

[@freddymegax4481]

There totally ARE people who claim to "not like music"

[@hamupinhere]

I've claimed to before, but only to get out of having to talk about music.

[@apullcan]

Yeah they’re called sociop

[@joebowden4065]

Hambone Jones and there are people who have never listened to an album all the way through in their lives😂

[@_.._guillaume_._x_._.]

There is actually a neurological condition called musical anhedonia, which means that their brain is completely incapable of feeling any pleasure from music. Those poor souls.

[@cheesecakelasagna]

@@joebowden4065 seriously though, even just looking at history of singles, there are infinite songs to love music for. Even let's say, them classical music.

[@MemeSnack]

Fantano really just pulled out a "You must have a pretty high IQ to understand Swans", huh?

[@hmm4214]

@Angad Grewal lmao

[@thepopgroup3366]

Late reply but, i think you gotta have some sort of patience and understanding of the music to be able to sit down and listening to them. I like all of godspeed you stuff (comparing because of the length), but Swans is just whole different plane of music. I listen to to be kind for 5 times before fully able to grasp the enjoyment

[@dr.aisaitl7439]

He actually kinda did, he pulled out the "it's for not normies who are beyond formulaic pop music and accept an expansive music" card. I like Anthony but that sucks, there are obvious faults with the post-rock or experimental music that Swans makes and I like a lot of Swans

[@neongooroo]

@@dr.aisaitl7439 IMHO he is actually kinda correct. Even a year ago I would never listen to a 10 min track or even an album as a whole, but then I discovered Deafheaven with tracks up to 12 mins, which looked insane for me at first, just as screaming, but I grew to love it. Then I found GYBE and first it was also hard to listen to 20 minutes at first, but now I can listen to a whole album and a 20 min track with no problem, just enjoying slowly progressing instruments. With swans, I tried to listen to them once or twice, but I am not quite there yet, and they do sound REALLY slow, but it doesn't mean it's bad. Not every piece of music has to be fast-paced or have a culmination. We are just really used to it. Our brain loves rules and it is so used to it it may be hard to comprehend something that doesn't obey rules. It doesn't mean it's bad, it's different

[@neongooroo]

@@dr.aisaitl7439 it doesn't mean Fantano said people who don't like it are morons. He just acknowledges that something needs to grow on people

[@djtaitai]

I’m more of a geese guy, personally.

[@ty_teynium]

PREDICTABO!

[@mellonlord4616]

Geese are the worst. I'm a vegan and I've always said that's the one animal I'd consider eating. Fuck geese.

[@outis439-A]

pleb tier

[@varunbiju6870]

@Saudade stop bragging loL. Ok you got to see that happen. Just don't rub it in our faces.

[@baronvonbeandip]

Same. One of my best friends is a goose.

[@hadookin47]

"swans are boring" Melon: *NORMIES*

[@jameswatts2310]

Thank you Paper Mario

[@claws811]

@@jameswatts2310 f

[@Alex-vd1no]

Swanzzzzz

[@itsmebeter3538]

Here’s the thing, Anthony. We live in a society.

[@wiggledixbubsy98]

That fuckin meme!

[@ctrip6668]

Ooo! I 'member!!!

[@valentinidk6101]

Griffin Peter

[@ctrip6668]

@@valentinidk6101 "Pea","Tear","Griffin".......Damnit!

[@valentinidk6101]

@@ctrip6668 wrong

[@Koogai]

I listen to Swans when I need chill relaxing lo fi music to focus/study to and I'm also on intense drugs.

[@H000REI]

Except for that song 'failure'. Too real for intense drugs or studying

[@djnevling8253]

If you’re not mainlining heroin to soundtracks for the blind you’re a pussy

[@LunaticTheCat]

Lol, I can't listen to Swans as background music.

[@andresaguero5880]

Swans is anything but background music wtf

[@coronelfalk]

I can relate

[@platinumfactor]

I agree with that dude. Swans are super overrated. Ducks always keep it interesting, but people are always freaking out whenever they see a swan.

[@quinnholleman1547]

I mean, swans are pretty intense. I could probably take a duck in a fight, maybe a goose on a good day, but not a swan. Those things are violence machines. Definitely not boring, though.

[@DrumWild]

My wife cried when she found out that swans can be gay.

[@loudross]

Good meme that one was

[@IamSuperEffective]

Classic memeit

[@rafaelfritzsche5141]

Classic. A man of culture, I see

[@thegreatgamelord8640]

Stolen

[@thecozykinoshow]

THIS MAN'S SHIRT JUST CHANGED LIKE 23 TIMES DURING THIS VIDEO LMAOO

[@atmbcito]

To be fair it is a 20 min long video.

[@trevorstout574]

Changing outfits like Lady Gaga 😂😂

[@svffix7594]

Corey Gray it’s a have a nice life shirt

[@troublemaker874]

I actually had this one girl in my class who genuinely did not like listening music. Part of the class was about culture in music, and when the teacher acted what do we normally like to listen to, she said “i really don’t like any music at all.” . Everyone thought she just couldn’t find anything she likes yet, but she straight up just said, “i hate music”. She was the first person I’ve ever met to dislike music

[@StrawberryLanza]

😐 pull a eugenics on her kids

[@i_am_an_idiot_but]

That sounds like hell

[@HiGlowie]

Da fuck..

[@bencarlson4300]

I’ve met plenty of people who are indifferent to music (and art in general), but never anyone yet to actively dislike an entire medium of art. This might sound harsh, but that sounds like a legitimate neurological disorder rather than just a taste preference.

[@crobodile]

For the first 18 years of my life I thought I just didn't like music but I realized I just don't like popular music. Now most of my favorite songs and artists are probably known by less than 100 people in the world.

[@scummygrummy5220]

I was really hoping this would be a 20 minute video on why swans wasn’t boring.

[@spamsingles5948]

It's funny cos there are Swans songs longer than that video

[@Dylboy112]

Shout out to Anthony for putting the question in the title as the first question instead of leaving it to the end

[@joaquin5028]

We have now discovered ethical clickbaiting

[@juanitadark]

I'd love to hear you talk about entry level classic literature, lmao

[@jaqf]

May a has anyone read this thing called romeo and Juliet? Pretty solid actually I’m feeling a decent to strong 7

[@Urtegurke]

Fantano gave of mice and men a 9 but the great gatsby a 6? smh..

[@LordLucario99]

he’s already got a review of Atrocity Exhibition you can go watch right now

[@puneethvenkatrao332]

@@Urtegurke Because it does have some stupid moments. It's an okay piece of literature.

[@jenconvertibles]

@@Urtegurke reverse those scores and you have a based review, of mice and men was a boring read for me and I far prefer Steinbecks later work (grapes of wrath)

[@StephenStraughan]

Objectively speaking, Imagine Dragons isn't as bad as people say they are. They're worse. They deserve even more hate than they already get.

[@AmeliaPond1994]

dan reynolds suffers from depression which is often worsened by harsh criticism he universally receives. maybe give the guy a break.

[@StephenStraughan]

@@AmeliaPond1994 Or maybe, here's a crazy idea, but maybe he shouldn't make such shitty music if harsh criticism gets to him? Problem solved.

[@dangshnizzle6929]

That's just absolutely not true

[@dragostego]

Imagine Dragons makes pop rock. Lots of people like it. I don't so I don't listen to it. I recommend you do the same.

[@naethavenir9422]

King OfKings WoW i didn’t thought of that! :OOOOOO

[@monikamorawska6363]

Imagine watching a let's argue episode without Kanye or Kendrick Lamar being mentioned... I still believe, maybe one day... No DAMN, no MBDTF... one day...

[@chabadrien441]

At least the title of the video is about swans, which is pretty cool

[@zackzallie8735]

But, you mentioned Kanye, Kendrick, DAMN and MBDTF in one sentence. You fuckin' hypocrite.

[@Descro382]

We should just have fans debate on which one is better, and go sit somewhere else in the lunchroom

[@dariocaporuscio8701]

Give me the King Gizzard review! Since I follow you I forgot how can I have an opinion of my own

[@lewissmith5759]

Its a nice summertime jam id give it a solid 7/10

[@EclecticoIconoclasta]

Pitchfork says its boring and I tend to agree with them. Maybe the Melon will send it to no review list

[@MagickFlavour]

Dario Caporuscio at this point it’s probably gonna be a Yuno review.

[@IVUSER]

To form an opinion of your own you first gotta listen to melon, duh!

[@derekwadas8489]

Dario Caporuscio He said “It be dropping this week.” Last Week! The melon better do it the day he gets back from tour.

[@harrisonglenn6204]

Swans make 9 minutes of 2 chords sound beautiful tho.

[@Drogon7102]

@@jaredbucoy9243 hes just saying in general

[@antimaterijaYT]

@@jaredbucoy9243 "the sound" for example

[@nathanburnett9529]

AntiMaterija mother of the world fits better

[@thisismyname5657]

So basically Pink Floyd?

[@mauricio-wc3qp]

Jared Bucoy fuck u

[@haleywilson520]

The trick to enjoying Swans' more repetitive songs is really getting into the vibe. It sounds corny, but there's usually a mindset you need to be in in order to allow yourself to fall into it. There's almost a trancelike element involved if you can get yourself there. If you can, it can definitely be an experience.

[@SirArthurTheGreat]

I listened to To be Kind for the first time while working out and it sucked so much ass as an experience

[@nomihabo9752]

Will changing my listening habits just to mildly appreciate the 3 interesting minutes from a 12+ minute track from a 2 hour long album from One Fucking Band actually be worth it tho

[@haleywilson520]

@@nomihabo9752 depends on your disposition and taste. Works for me, though. You can also always put it on in the car. I process a lot of the music I listen to for the first time that way

[@jusqici_toutvabien]

@@nomihabo9752 it's not about the 3 minutes from the 12 minute track, it's about the build up, how it makes you feel right before and then after. It's literally "the friends you made along the way" meme in music form

[@R-H-B]

@@SirArthurTheGreat I fucking love TBK but this is hilarious

[@Royalty-eb7xj]

*[insert "great video melon, but you didn't have to say XYZ" #8312 here please]*

[@AxxLAfriku]

I will now count to 3 and then I am still the unprettiest KZbinr of all time. 1...2...3. Thank you for your attention, dear great video melon

[@isabadpassword]

Great video melon... something something n word meme

[@TheMetalTempestYT]

great comment, but dropping the N word 15 times in it to make your metacommentary point to take the metaphorical high road was quite unnecessary and tasteless, in my personal opinion. Have a nice day. Light to a strong 4 on this comment.

[@renapeppers20]

We can kill this meme. We just don't have to like the comments 👀👀

[@joshk5686]

Kill the meme by going meta

[@zavierlee695]

There are people who literally get nothing out of music. It's called Musical Anhedonia. 3-5% of the population is affected by it.

[@kip741]

I pity them

[@brendanpeahl7055]

4:55 you’d be surprised, my buddy got a new girlfriend that literally said she doesn’t care for music, besides maybe some country in the background. But to her it’s just noise. I played her Yeezus and she wasn’t even phased.

[@HotStrange]

Brendan Peahl yeah I’ve known a few people who just aren’t really into music. Some people don’t even have “favorite albums” or bands. Which seems foreign to us but it definitely happens.

[@travis_redfern6771]

Haut Strange Yeah that’s just fucking crazy to me...but that’s them I guess.

[@Altair584]

As one of Anthony's relatively newer fans, it's incredibly humbling to see how much people can talk in incredible detail about music. Like, I would've never thought about stuff like album covers, how the tracks blend into the each other, let alone the way genres molded or changed over the last few decades and how it's relevant in its respective context. I think it's a lot like gaming, tbh. Often times, my friends who are the least likely to play games, are the ones that enjoy it the least, because they end up feeling bad over the fact that they're inexperienced. Maybe your buddy's gf is the same way, not really comfortable with the fact that there's this huge world of music where people like Anthony can speak literal hours at a time about certain tracks, albums, genres etc... while she can't say much about it. That's just my theory, because I don't really believe anyone out there doesn't like music or can't understand it.

[@brendanpeahl7055]

Hoob The Hobo hey man welcome to the fantano fanbase, you’re in a for a wild ride. But so for more context in the situation, when I first met her I asked her what kind of music she liked because it’s always my go-to question for new people, so I can get a sense of their style and personality and because I can talk about virtually anything music related. So when I asked her she was just like, I’m not really into music. And I responded with something like “really? There must be something you listen to”. And she said sometimes she listens to country radio but she doesn’t know any song names or artists. And it was really baffling, because people usually dig some music whether or not it’s very popular or well respected amongst music crowds. But this girl just couldn’t really give any opinion to any music I showed. And like I said, I played her Yeezus and specifically On Sight. And that’s such a weird ass song I thought she would say it was terrible, but she said “yeah it sounds like something you could work out to”. And she’s not wrong but, I mean when I show that song to anybody their heads split because of how jarring it was. Idk just a very interesting encounter I guess.

[@kwhyland]

Brendan Peahl Some people don’t think about music when they hear it. It just bounces off their ears, so it’s hard for them to appreciate what they’re listening to. You could play them literally anything and unless it offends them, they just won’t react. I feel really bad for folks like that. They’re like the people who only see whatever blockbuster action or romcom garbage plays on TV in the middle of the day; art is just a commodity to them, not a statement.

[@aravinth97]

Don't let this video distract you from the fact that Melon still hasn't reviewed Lil B's double-disc (2-disc) mixtape "28 Wit a Ladder"

[@bameroncoss]

Aravinth thank you

[@f4lc0n15]

LET'S AGREE: Let's Argue

[@spamsingles5948]

LET'S ARGUE: Let's agree

[@WolfclawTheGreatwolf]

LET’S AGREE: LET’S AGREE: Let’s Argue

[@borginburkes1819]

Abacab78 Lets Argue: Lets Argue.

[@sebsyoutubechannel4252]

Let’s: let’s

[@borginburkes1819]

Seb's KZbin channel Agree Argue: Argue Agree

[@ethangrubb8318]

Anthony. You are on tour. You shouldn’t be making videos. Get back to work.

[@Dangershrimp]

G/than Works he probably recorded this before leaving so he could maintain his release schedule

[@renapeppers20]

@@Dangershrimp no shit 😂😂😂

[@ethangrubb8318]

Adrien Wright thank you

[@aerocx4712]

Adrien Wright Or he brought his green screen and camera on tour and recorded these videos on the road. Could explain the wardrobe changes.

[@Zachariaz]

G/than Works "GET BACK TO WORK" - Benson from Regular Show

[@dogvtf]

"There are people out there who hate music?" *Coco intensifies*

[@rubywest5166]

People say Swans are boring, but they’re not. They’re powerful. Powerful enough to break a man’s arm

[@you_tubeslonelyheartsclubband]

Or capsize a kayak

[@MetalDisciple97]

That bass intro was juicy, melon

[@aaronkeane6675]

Randy K. I think its car hiss by my window by the doors

[@DrSBecker]

It was Screen Shot by Swans

[@aaronkeane6675]

@schumel Yeah, you’re right, idk how i missed that considering the title of the video

[@MotorikBear]

Melon juice

[@Drogon7102]

@Color Not Colour i think its supposed to be screenshot despite melons being was lower tone.

[@MotorikBear]

Day 9854885, still no King Gizzard

[@kingofkings9422]

My guy I know you ain't 24657 years old smh

[@mehmed6529]

90% of people who listen to swans have this thought at least once: "I hope this gets interesting soon" And it almost always does

[@temptep]

I enjoy a lot of experimental and weird music, but I literally walked out of the one Swans concert I've attended because I wanted to sleep instead. However, I would never say that Swans is doing anything wrong. I think that the music they write is hugely beautiful, but it asks a lot of the listener. "Feel Happiness" must be in my top ten favorite 'songs' of all time. Would I want to watch it live? Would I want to be the guy who says "We love you, man" near the end of the recording that you can most easily find on the Internet? No. But I appreciate them writing it and playing it, and I appreciate everyone who records it so that fickle people like me can still have a jolly time once in a while. If Swans are boring, they are only so when your mood is mismatched. And when it isn't, they're incredible. That's about it.

[@user-xq1bc5qx2p]

I don't get it. Do you like Swans or you don't?

[@temptep]

@@user-xq1bc5qx2p I don't get it. Did you read what I wrote?

[@user-xq1bc5qx2p]

I can't wrap my mind around you saying for example Feel Happiness is in my top 10 songs and then literally saying I don't want to hear it live. Or that one Swans show was so boring I preferred sleep over it. You probably meant you were just really tired then. But wouldn't you have planned going to that show beforehand so you can get rest and enjoy the show?

[@user-xq1bc5qx2p]

@@temptep And no, you can't find a video of a Feel Happiness performance on the internet. Only audio. Sorry, I'm probably starting to sound like a redditor who is just nitpicking

[@temptep]

​@@user-xq1bc5qx2p I may see what you mean now. It's probably important to mention that I'm not really a fan of live shows in general, but I often used to go to them with friends because I love participating in what my friends do. I guess, maybe, sometimes, you decide to dedicate yourself to something, and you're not sure if you dedicate yourself to it because you love it, or if you love it because you dedicate yourself to it. I've dedicated myself to an ideal that makes Swans beautiful, but painfully difficult. Frighteningly, painfully difficult, but beautiful. Maybe I'm just stupid, but that's why I had to go sleep instead of watching them live. And I think that any music that can wreak that upon a human mind is as far from "boring" as one can get. And the performance of "Feel Happiness" that I meant to refer to never had any video; I just listen to the audio. watch?v=rZZYYCSy8VY

[@SuperBurninguitar]

4:50 I used to have a friend in high school that didn't like music in general. He just wasn't fussed by anything. Although after trying to find something he vaguely liked he admitted to enjoying a Eric Clapton song, which one he couldnt say haha

[@jacob_ian_decoursey_the_author]

It was Layla. Because it's always Layla.

[@joaquin5028]

@@jacob_ian_decoursey_the_author real question is whether it's the unplugged or og layla

[@spreadwuvokay]

@@jacob_ian_decoursey_the_author I-I like tears in heaven.

[@AnarchistMetalhead]

used to not like music either, then saw marilyn manson in bowling for columbine, and after liking that for a while got introduced to a variety of metal by classmates

[@ty_teynium]

Them: swans are boring. Me: The Band, The Bird, or The Song?

[@aceroy9195]

Yes

[@sweep_swoop]

@@aceroy9195 freakin smartass

[@KK-tt3xr]

Let’s Argue: upload the Fishing for Fishies review

[@marek9741]

Fun fact: David Bowie was one of the first artists to put their music on the Internet, as most believed the internet was a fad that would die out. He thought it was going to be extremely important to keep him relevant in the future.

[@bro-rm5xo]

LET'S ARGUE: Grindcore and Lil Pump are the only valid form of music

[@pilotk9659]

Based and Redpilled

[@compulsiveg.a.y4212]

We already know this tho

[@Kyle-ic4nf]

*AGREE

[@jvictor3048]

This but unironically.

[@user-cr8tn5ic1w]

drain gang is the only valid form of music

[@fayewestwood4193]

Wow UwU a 20 minute Let's Argue I'm crying and shaking

[@jvictor3048]

I'm cumming and shitting

[@Paulito-ym4qc]

I'm dying and rotting

[@CAHall-dp3vi]

Sampling is easy? Sure, if you're not challenging yourself.

[@Kittel_]

*MF DOOM wants to know your location*

[@No1WillMakeItOutAlive]

sampling in a way that doesn’t just sound like a store bought loop is way more difficult than writing the music yourself with a MIDI keyboard. Chopping up a sample into various bits and then constructing them together into something new is not easy, and takes a lot of time to get good at

[@Descro382]

@@Kittel_ and DJ Shadow lol

[@KoffeeShak]

@@Kittel_ DOOM has some of the simplest, unchanged loops (some could say lazy). Red and gold, deep fried frendz and gas drawls are loops from reasonably famous tracks. The man truly didn’t give a fuck about using recognizable loops, evidenced by him asking prince Paul for the beat for hot guacamole. Not the best example of a producer who challenges themselves to flip samples in creative ways. Love his music, but compared to others, his production is raw and simple compared to many. That’s a big reason people like it.

[@Erica-bo2gl]

Speaking from experience, Swans is amazing for cleaning. The anger and passion i feel when listening to To Be Kind results in a seriously clean tub.

[@bro-rm5xo]

LET'S ARGUE: Anthony's head is actually not a melon

[@SpagEddie8113]

I’m demonetizing this comment

[@theclash435]

Top tier

[@justinaquin0]

fat disagree

[@Nodrog666]

How do I delete someone elses comment

[@tommeashton2300]

Shut up idiot

[@jo-lg.2458]

Anthony pls let me be a groupie on your tour

[@Jackie-fw3hr]

Just follow him in your car

[@nightmare-nightmarenightma1147]

A Melon Motorcade

[@roundskyer127]

13:00 Death Grips came right out of the gate amazing with Exmilitary and hasn't had a bad album. YUH.

[@markvorobey2547]

True

[@mycity7590]

YUH

[@shanechenmusic1804]

All the Death Grips members were in their 30s when Exmilitary was released (Except maybe Andy, who is younger than the rest but he doesn’t have a Wikipedia article) Edit according to Death Grips wiki Andy is like 9 years younger than Stefan

[@connorlonergan4967]

I've actually met people who have said "I don't like music," or "I don't really care for music," and they almost always chalk it up to "being too lazy to remember artist names." It's a scary world we live in melon, a scary world

[@Amphibax]

First time listening to Swans is like drinking your first coffee you don't understand it don't get why people like it, but after a few times you really start to like it

[@Benesat]

I feel like a good portion of the people that find Swans boring don’t realize that the band has made music since 1982. I was certainly a fan of To Be kind and The Seer on first listen. But the first time I heard Filth I sorta knew I loved the band. And good or bad, they have at some point made an album that could be listenable for most music fans. Pretty sure I got my grandma to listen to Burning World at least once.

[@tyler-xo3rb]

well shucks, now that i know that they’ve been making boring music since 1982 now i think they’re not boring!

[@Arlowe253]

​@@tyler-xo3rb Think you should check out Filth. Might change that "boring" opinion slightly.

[@r2kpei]

I did once work with a guy who said he didn't like music. I tried finding out what he listened and just straight up did not listen to music. It was a shock to me.

[@seancascone]

4:07 little did he know...

[@robertwithnell5216]

Swans is good, and that's my most contrarian opinion.

[@Tre-sc4xj]

Swans like water.

[@erikerikerikerikerik]

i actually used to think swans were boring, then i actually listened to an album. also notification squad

[@erikerikerikerikerik]

Colby S Depends what era and what album. For me, i love the extreme heaviness of their earlier work and the amazing drum grooves on their album filth. Personally, there is a large portion of their discography i’m not s fan of. i love the super brutal swans and very ambient soundtracks for the blind swans

[@tylerlovett6242]

Colby S they scratch an itch that few other artists can. Super slow-moving and slow-building music that takes some serious patience, but once you put some time into a Swans album or even a Swans song, there’s little music that is as epic or satisfying. The peaks and payoffs on some of their bigger songs are some of the most mind-blowing movements in rock history

[@bagelman3075]

badlandchugs!

[@Hope-cl5ug]

Colby S Very little music I’ve heard (and I’ve heard s lot) manages to capture the same amount of emotional intensity, angst, and nihilistic atmospheres of many Swans records. It requires a bit of patience to get into admittedly (I didn’t find myself to enjoy TBK on my first listen all that much, but it’s in my top 10 favorite albums of all time now), but man does it PAY OFF if you let it grow on you. They have one of the most intriguing and consistent discographies too and without a doubt one of the best experimental rock outfits out there. Their live performances are something else too.

[@scottwilliams4432]

BAD LANDS CHUGS!!!

[@HowardAltEisen]

For the record, I've actually met a couple people who claim to dislike music as a whole, and seem to be entirely serious about their stance. I can't fathom what it must be like to be that kind of person, but they apparently exist. ?_?

[@pianoboi4842]

Don't worry, you were on shrooms

[@bittaraemaulana4276]

"I'm very much not an American Idiot guy" see, that's the problem

[@idiotDB]

So that's why he hates all my favorite albums, huh

[@bigboineptune9567]

It falls apart in the second half. 6/10.

[@jabba820]

In my opinion, early Green day when they were more rock oriented is where they shine. American Idiot and onwards was pretty much pure emo pop. And their most recent album was downright embarrassing. Good Greenday: Songs like Longview, Basket Case, Brain Stew, the song "American Idiot", good riddance Shitty Greenday: recent album, WMUWSE, Holiday, those uno dos tres albums

[@oyentest6758]

@@bigboineptune9567 Actually, the second half is a lot better than the first half. The best songs are Whatsername, Homecoming, Letterbomb, Wake Me Up When September Ends, pretty much everything in the end. Strong 9 to light 10/10.

[@IronBrand00]

I have to wake up earlier for exams tomorrow. Fantano: LET'S ARGUE FOR 20 MINUTES. I am hoping for a review of the new Denzel Curry track too...

[@kbscheme]

Green Wockee *hey buddy did you hear the news*

[@notmyrealname-1805]

What exam you doing

[@ryankeenan4425]

Chem gang?

[@IronBrand00]

Engineer projecting basics

[@ilovecody7514]

Filth is one of my favorite albums of all time.

[@johnb.1020]

Tha Swami Right Wrong OWNS.

[@wyattcorbin1629]

As much as I love the Wu, I think it’s weird that you don’t see them held up to the same “first album wonder” light as Nas or GnR.

[@Vidav99]

I guess a lot of people take their solo albums into consideration

[@leftsideupfan5489]

When you said “after hearing decades of very formulaic popular music we love is for patterns in the music that was like” that made me just say wow out loud. I feel like you just opened up a third eye lol. I’ve never thought of that and honestly partially scares me because I see that in a lot of the older generation. I’m still young and don’t want to be confined to a genre when I get older. The artists I mostly enjoy are rush (from the 70s-2012), twenty one pilots, and a couple others that follow the formula of being catchy and somewhat generic but still bringing something brand new and at times a little experimental but I’m unable to get enjoyment from most songs from like you mentioned swans or death grips. I think subconsciously I like a steady drum beat with an intriguing instrumental but I want to break from that formula even if I don’t enjoy. I’m going to start listening to swans, death grips, and other artists like those who I can listen to more as an exercise than enjoyment.

[@featherycoffee1401]

You don't need to listen to that, you know? Nobody is forcing you, maybe it just ain't for you. It's fine.

[@janerra_ava]

8:34 That's how I feel about Wax Tailor's album "Tales of The Forgotten Melodies" ^^ I definitely agree with you about sampling being an art form

[@lucyrose4168]

I need a Lets Agree next to balance out all this ~argumentation~ please

[@teamjoffery]

I appreciate an educated opinion about music and culture related things, and so appreciate yours. Thank you for keeping this segment alive.

[@Smo2i]

Favourite channel by far, such a nice enviroment.

[@flavio7180]

Swans are an incredibly consistent band, and this guy is the first person I’ve seen or heard that thinks they are boring.

[@travis_redfern6771]

I can get people not being into certain art forms, but really I think it has most to do with ignorance and being stubborn. I used to not think much about dancing or artwork, but through high school I tried to be more open to things and look for art I could like and I ended up actually becoming an artist myself😅, and I love dance now as well. Especially hip hop dancing.

[@cleaningmyroom1000]

The last one was very insightful. Thank you video.

[@nickw5682]

I'm glad that you made a longer video.

[@suru_media]

listened to most swans albums while I was in the jungle in Mexico as well as in the airport, and all of their albums are unique and amazing in their own right

[@bencarlson4300]

4 years late but now I’m very curious of the context of you listening to Swans in the Mexican jungle. How’d that happen?

[@momohendrix6098]

I wanna know why Antwan Fantwan changed clothes like 5 times during the video

[@FishTitan64]

Probably because he shot a bunch of different takes on different days?

[@gumquamare8461]

FishTitan64 shut up nerd

[@andrewrondeau9898]

Maybe since he's on tour these are cuts that didn't make other let's argues

[@lauramobsby434]

I reckon he burnt through each shirt with his raw melon sexuality

[@Breadagain]

Anthony does love a good shirt change in the let’s argue segments

[@TheCuttingBureau]

Great episode! Agreed on the underground being alive -- in music and other areas of culture.

[@yimnerr]

I didn't get into music until the summer going into my first year of high school. Prior to that I was a kid trying to get into major league baseball while trying to appease the bullies on all my baseball teams. I was only aware of the big Beatles songs and other classic rock radio hits. My friend gave me a lil bow wow CD in elementary school and I pretended to like it. But I remember kids listening to fall out boy and good Charlotte, etc. In middle school and elementary school. Now im 24 and ive been drumming since 2009, my first year in high school.

[@lordoflightning7506]

To me Swans is like the Dark Souls of music, extremely challenging to actually wanna finish but in the end its totally worth it

[@brad6546]

This has deadass been one of the best lets argue episodes in a while man.

[@juniorthehipster]

That’s my favorite intro baseline yet! Well done Fanta!

[@thunder____]

I genuinely came to this video expecting and hoping for a 20 minute argument about swans, like, the animal. I'm not disappointed in the video we got instead, but I do still want to see some hot takes about the extent to which swans (and perhaps other similar birds, potentially including ducks and geese) are interesting or boring.

[@thisiscjshandle]

My grandfather was a high school math teacher and he is the most left-brained person I’ve ever met. I learned from my uncle that he never enjoyed music in general. He didn’t hate it, he just never paid much attention to it or had any favorite artists. As a lover of music, I still have a hard time wrapping my head around that.

[@hutglass]

saw u in Seattle last night was really fun good job melon

[@johnjohn37371]

The part about people not liking music in general struck a familiar chord...I have a friend from college who's big thing was, "I simply have no time to listen to music, to develop a love of a song..." It used to infuriate me. She was great 99% of the time, but somehow, somewhere, was instilled with the notion that her life was to important, to vital, to take time out for music...she was above that. Uuggghhh....

[@Riddlington]

Can't wait for your Father of the Bride review!

[@HotStrange]

Light to decent 9. VWs best album besides Contra, which it’s equal to.

[@josehernan4466]

It's probably going to be a 7 lol

[@IvefoundthetruthonMay]

@@HotStrange Modern Vampires Of The City is their best album though

[@HotStrange]

J Nah

[@larrydong5746]

Haut Strange what lyrics on that album contend with the lyrics on any of their three previous ones?

[@chrisms_96]

You're crazy. Swans are my second favorite long-necked waterfowl after the Canadian goose.

[@darsure3006]

seriously this is your best episode ever...you're just so goddamn sensible...i had to tell you...don't ever change melonwedge

[@rarefactionmedia]

Just saw the melon last night in Seattle. Cal actually opened for him! I’m in shock at how awesome the show was idk what to say just needed to share

[@broceratops1337]

Metal can benefit from borrowing some flavors from a popular genre. For example rap. if only someone could blend those together. if... only...

[@FELCommentary]

Well Chester died so there goes your safe bet

[@GamingOS]

I know its been attempted many times, but I dint really feel like anyone has truly succeeded in making a true combination of the genre.

[@amirb.8763]

GamingOS City Morgue Are Doing a pretty solid job at it, but they're a rap outfit so it's kinda different

[@MadnessOpus]

GamingOS Four words. *Rage Against The Machine.*

[@totalsurprise889]

While i dont like them Emmure has been doing rap metal awhile.

[@taker4698]

Sadly I was one of those people that didn't like music because I grew up in an area where the only music I had ever heard was country and pop rock and I didn't even know there was anything else. Luckily in high school I discovered there was other genres of music. Man I wish the internet had existed when I was a kid lol.

[@standbehindbraum6178]

Your answer to the first argument was very elegant, well said.

[@JoeH679]

I think your take on metal and the fanbase is spot on. It's a vast and varied genre with so much scope for creativity and new directions but is restrained by a fanbase that don't want something new. I still love the genre though, but it's odd when I speak to a metal head and they aren't really sure of the new directions of the genre they almost exclusively listen to.

[@lordofthegame5268]

not even notification squad, good timing squad

[@elephantofdoom]

20 minutes of ARGUE

[@tyranisoar7401]

4:31 I was one of said “ugh I hate music” people in my ugly middle school phase of my life (so like a few years ago) so I totally agree with that comment, and I found music I love and grew as a person from it.

[@jwconglomerate332]

I personally enjoy a good loop, whether it's in a rack in listening to it one I'm making. But I agree that just plopping down a loop ad nauseam and tacking a beat over it can be a bit lazy. It worked for Puffy because BIG was just such a great presence he added wealth and layers vocally. I personally try to alter or 'hide' my samples as best I kind to create something new or lend a different interpretation to the sample so if nothing else it isn't distracting.

[@bobsala7780]

Anthony: “I don’t really think there’s a leg of the metal genre that I dislike it so much that it is totally unlistenable.” All Power Metal bands: still waiting for their albums to be reviewed on The Needle Drop.

[@spamsingles5948]

That is the sole metal subgenre that I do find to be unlistenable

[@thevinyltruffle]

I’ve actually had a few people tell me “i don’t listen to music.” They have no connection w music. It’s like someone saying “i don’t watch television.” The fact that they see television and music as equal forms of “entertainment” or as something to just pass the time should be ample evidence for me to come to the conclusion that I should get the fuck away from them.

[@slavojdyrdek]

What's wrong with not watching TV?

[@upthewolfs2347]

Wow you're a shallow man

[@shrimpe2876]

Wat

[@ShadowStar765]

I imagine it's gotta be pretty tough listening to music when your head is so far up your own ass.

[@awookieandagerman]

TV is comparable to recorded music perhaps, but not music as a whole. TV is a smaller part of a larger visual and performance art, and I think eventually just falls under the broad category of literature (albeit a kind of visual literature). So to say "I don't like literature" is more on par with saying "I don't like music," assuming literature encompasses TV, movies, theater, books, poetry, and related medias. I could see someone not liking reading, or not enjoying movies, but not enjoying anything that could be considered literature is too broad of a stroke to take seriously. Similarly, I could see someone not liking popular music, or not enjoying listening to recorded music, or not enjoying people who sing or whistle or tap beats in public. But not liking any music at all? I can't quite take that seriously. I mean, can you hate visual arts as a whole? Can you hate performing arts as a whole? Can you hate music as a whole?

[@j4kez]

My English teacher asked everyone in the class what their favorite album was and there were maybe like 10 kids that said they did not like music in general. I'm also a freshmen at an all boys school so a lot of my classmates hate everything, but still. I was shocked that so many people don't like any music

[@TheGreatYukon]

In response to the person asking if samples are OK, I felt this was a good response. "All this machinery Making modern music Can still be open-hearted Not so coldly charted It's really just a question Of your honesty, yeah your honesty" -Rush, Spirit of Radio I think that sums it up.

[@Briceo0o]

My Dad didn't like music. I remember asking him what were some of his favorite artists and he said that as he got older he stopped caring for music...

[@bencarlson4300]

My aunt said this. I was talking to her about David Bowie and LZ the great stuff from the 70s and she said she gradually stopped caring about music as she got older and that I would too eventually. She listens to political radio and watches cable news and that’s her life. That is the most depressing conversation of my life so far.

[@GH0STS1AY3R]

Great video Anthony but you didn't have to

[@thecharlieramirez]

Thanks for the meme template. 👍🏽

[@sock8718]

WHAT IS YOUR PROFILE PICTURE I SEE THAT PICTURE EVERYWHERE AND I AM CLUELESS WHAT IS IT

[@GH0STS1AY3R]

@@sock8718 its the strokes album cover/image of inside a bubble chamber that detects the motion of charged particles

[@sock8718]

@@GH0STS1AY3R THANK YOU SO MUCH GENUINELY YOU HHAVE SAVED MY LIFE NHOT KNWOWING WHAHT THAT IMAGE WAS FRORM HHAS CAUSD ME TO FALL INTO A PERPETUAUL PSYCOTICH STATE FUCK THANK YOU OH MY GOD IM FREE

[@GH0STS1AY3R]

@@sock8718 Have a nice life

[@MrAliasWasHere]

Favorite Metalcore album list please. Love the channel.

[@Magnumscrotus]

I actually really agree with your take on prog and djent metal, however those are top 5 genres i listen to nonstop because when it is done right its some of the most addicting music ive ever found.