Let's fight over nothing (Prayer Rule of the Theotokos)

[@ghost20012001]

I've used this rule quite a bit since coming to orthodoxy. I do think it is unfortunate people throw out this rule because it is attributed to the wrong St Seraphim. New martyrs are cool

[@Isaakios82]

St. Seraphim of Sarov required his nuns at Diveyevo to chant this daily in the sacred canal where the Mother of God had appeared to him. He told many people about this practice. The holy new-martyr Seraphim Zvezdinsky is the one who added the prayers and reflection.

[@xmc7189]

@@Isaakios82 thanks for this info🤞

[@tylermeade81]

Rosaries? Komboskini? Lestovkas? Heresy!True Orthodox exclusively use a bowl and 50 stones to pray.

[@OrthodoxReview]

Bahahaha

[@ALLHEART_]

This comment is legitimately hysterical.

[@THISWEEKINHUMANdotcom]

Ahhhh, but what type of stones does your church use?

[@zoem1859]

Very glad I found this video. I was thinking of buying this... as someone vacillating between Roman Catholicism (currently RC) and Orthodoxy I was very intrigued by this little book as a bridge from Western Rosary to Eastern... Rosary :P It's a lovely book, no matter what one might think of the subject matter. Thanks for the review.

[@jeffmajewskiofs4114]

A favorite prayer rule of mine! I use my 50 step lestovka to pray the rule! Though not written by St. Seraphim of Sarov, hed make its use popular again!☦

[@forgingicehole4750]

Thank you posting this video. I prayed this for the firstime 2 days ago, standing infront of Searcher For The Lost Icon and The Crucifix Icon that is know in the catholic world most famously as the Crucifix of Saint Francis Of Assisi. It brought me to tears. I'll continure to pray this, but I think I'll split it up into 5 decades a day, the way the Latin Catholic's do. I'm currently a Latin Catholic, on the fence about Eastern Rite or full on Orthodoxy. Who ever reads this, please pray for me, thanks. And God Bless you all as well.

[@3devdas777]

The Prayer Rule of St. Seraphim of Sarov From "Saint Seraphim Wonderworker of Sarov", by Helen Kontzevich "After Morning and Evening Prayers, the short rule of St. Seraphim was always read. In the evening everyone walked along the Canal and read the prayer, 'Rejoice, O Virgin Theotokos' one-hundred-fifty times, saying 'Our Father' at every tenth with commemoration of the living and the dead. On October 1, the Feast of the Protection, in the evening after Matins the entire Monastery prayed one-hundred-fifty times, 'Rejoice, O Virgin Theotokos' in the church. They also prayed in the monastic quarters for the living and the dead, and at all times of need. This was the most widely used common rule." - Nun Seraphima (Bulgakova), novice at the Diveyevo Convent before it was closed by the Communists

[@alexsalentine739]

AWESOME REVIEW!!! LOVE MARIAN PRAYER!! From a Catholic. “One day, through the rosary and the scapular, Our Lady will save the world.” ~St. Dominic

[@ilyamuromets8534]

These mysteries are basically the Western 7 Sorrows rosary combined with the traditional St Dominic rosary

[@faustinuskaryadi6610]

more likely Latin 7 sorrows+7 Joys combined since this also has Adoration of Magi which is not part of Dominican Rosary but 7 Joys instead.

[@Umbreondafemboy]

The prayer rule of the Theotokos is older than the latin rosary.

[@ilyamuromets8534]

@@Umbreondafemboy well, this notion is repeated often times but I am still to find proof of it. I don’t care either way, but all I have seen is St Seraphim of Sarov utilizing this method, and he is way after the Latin versions. If you can show me evidence of anybody else using this format before the latins I would appreciate it:

[@Umbreondafemboy]

@@ilyamuromets8534 The prayers that St. Seraphim of Sarov uses have been found in the 8th century revealed by our Blessed Mother. So both Catholics and Orthodox can use this specific Prayer since it was revealed by the panagia in the 8th Century.

[@ilyamuromets8534]

@@Umbreondafemboy do you mind providing a source for this assertion?

[@ettoredipugnar6990]

On the contrary it is a lot. It’s the prayer rule given by St. Seraphim to the nuns at Divyevo monastery. Nothing to do with the Latin devotion of the Rosary . The nuns use a lostevki not a lostevka like the one you got from St. Elizabeth’s convent . Without the 3 large steps for the ArchAngels and Angels The short service for people who worked the land or couldn’t read .

[@livingfreelyinspired7400]

Even the hindus (gaudiya vaishnavas) warn strictly to push out images from their mind during chanting mantras. And they are idolators! ❤️ Thanks this is a nice book

[@KatWomanHikes]

This exact book just landed in my mailbox today. 😁☺️😻

[@Lanterneveninglight]

Thank you, brother! May I ask where we can purchase the beautiful wristband, with the cross on it, you wear on your right hand?

[@OrthodoxReview]

www.monastiriaka.gr/en/

[@josephmary969]

so did st seraphim of sarov meditate (imagenative prayer) on the mysteries? or was it just an simple remeberance (mention the account and move on to prayer)?

[@OrthodoxReview]

Remembrance

[@ΟΡΘΟΔΟΞΗΖΩΗ]

Χριστός Ετέχθη - Αληθώς Ετέχθη. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5mnqKytlrJrpck Ἀπολυτίκιον. Ἦχος δ´. Ἡ γέννησίς σου Χριστὲ ὁ Θεὸς ἡμῶν, ἀνέτειλε τῷ κόσμῳ, τὸ φῶς τὸ τῆς γνώσεως· ἐν αὐτῇ γὰρ οἱ τοῖς ἄστροις λατρεύοντες, ὑπὸ ἀστέρος ἐδιδάσκοντο, σὲ προσκυνεῖν, τὸν Ἥλιον τῆς δικαιοσύνης, καὶ σὲ γινώσκειν ἐξ ὕψους ἀνατολήν. Κύριε, δόξα σοι.

[@jesusacuna309]

As a Roman Catholic, how are these any different from the western "meditations" (we call them the mysteries) of the rosary?

[@OrthodoxReview]

Fantastic question. In the rc tradition, in the meditation part , one is encouraged to use the imagination to picture the events, and ponder on them. In the orthodox tradition, the use of imagination in prayer is discouraged, as it is a way for demons to influence us. Therefore, we commemorate the events, but do not dwell on them in our minds, but honor them, and continue in prayer.

[@jesusacuna309]

@@OrthodoxReview is the only difference then one's internal disposition?

[@seanflanagan2441]

#jesusacuna309, as a "Roman" Catholic who is probably best viewed as a fundamentalist, someone who despised pontiffs who promote 12:08 12:08 praising and panegyrizing a pagan paladin; -bishops- cardinals who refuse to rebuke and deny Eucharist to the politicians who support and push laws that enable abortion-during cilldbirth and visit their church pretending to be Catholic; and the MANY priests and bishops who advance the dilution and dispensing with the Catholic faith and rejection of the Magisterium, you might want to skip my account of my experience with the "Prayer Rule of the Theokos". I only stumbled on the "Eastern Rosary" a few months ago - sometime in May '23, I believe. While parts of it seem artificial and padded (this video confirms the additions and embellishments), I found the Marian prayers to be both exquisitely formed and far more appropriate than the weak and grammatically poor, "… pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death." (I think very few will understand the flaw in that petition.) I find that addressing Our Lady as "God-bearer" is far more appropriate (and accurate) than the Roman, "Mother of God", which reduces Iesu (Jesus) to the level of the numerous Greek, Hindi, and Roman gods-divine beings birthed by human women. (For the weak-minded: Mary _could_not_ have given birth to God. (No more hints: get it or stay lost.)

[@dujigpo]

Is this prayed with a rosary or prayer rope?

[@OrthodoxReview]

Doesn't matter

[@dujigpo]

@@OrthodoxReview thanks a lot

[@xmc7189]

Can you post us the correct web address of chi ro?

[@bentramer1]

❤

[@Ettoredipugnar]

In my nothing opinion , this is a tool for ecumenism. Posted without anger or out rage but objectively.

[@leiyeuktsui8449]

This was encouraged by two Orthodox Saints, I would follow what Saints said.

[@premed808]

The prayer rule of an Orthodox Saint is a tool for ecumenism? What now?

[@Ettoredipugnar]

@@premed808 do you have your prayer up? What’s to stop you from saying Most Holy Theotokos save us ?

[@premed808]

@@Ettoredipugnar Most Holy Theotokos, save us! God bless you!

[@premed808]

@@Ettoredipugnar What do you mean by "ecumenism"? Many Orthodox Christians in the West have adopted the Roman Catholic style rosary... The St. Seraphim prayer rule published here is arguably intended to *dissuade* that practice and offer a fully Orthodox alternative. In other words, its not a tool for ecumenism, but a weapon *against* it. I'm not interested in debating and so this will be my last comment here. It's just some food for thought, that, yes, perhaps they intend this as a tool to promote the Latin rosary, but maybe the opposite case it true. Without the publishers themselves telling us their intentions, who can say? Or perhaps they are Russians that are unconcerned with the West and simply wanted to publish the prayer rule of a Russian Saint. Forgive me, brother. God bless you!