Let's Play Riven (2024) - part 16 - Endings and beginnings

[@GaisaSanktejo]

Your final "Huh"! just cracked me up! URU time again!!!

[@thephoenixking1086]

This game means a lot to me personally, being a game I used to play all the time with my grandfather when I was a child. He passed away in 2007 but the Myst games have always stayed with me and always will. I really wish he could have seen this remake, he would have loved it.

[@thephoenixking1086]

Bloody hell, making me tear up man. Great Job Cyan, and a damn good Gameplay Dilandua, as always.

[@nickymay9887]

Fun fact. If you go back to the village after capturing Gehn, the viewer no longer tracks you.

[@OnBleeckerStreet]

Seeing (young) Aitrus in the imager was really moving and fascinating for me for some reason. I read the books when I was a kid and I’ve always wondered about his and Anna’s physical appearances. Glad they kept the canon description of him as having dark hair!

[@petitwallaby]

I had the same thought you did after finishing the Riven remake: it DID feel like playing Riven for the first time again! I couldn't have asked for more! ❤

[@oneMoreMiffedBrit]

Thank you so much for this playthrough. Rather than a 'do this, do that' walkthrough you've taken the time to absorb the game in full, and that has real value as a viewer. I played the original extensively with my uncle and godmother, and have good memories of challenging a more serious gaming entry. Its good to see this remake executed so well

[@LeesaDeAndrea]

They need to go back and save Riven. It's a lovely place with its once massive trees, its wildlife. I hate to think of the frogs, the fish & birds & butterflies gone. The sunners no longer lounging on their boulders.

[@oneMoreMiffedBrit]

@@LeesaDeAndrea But thats the beauty of it, you can play it all again and bring it back to life :)

[@LeesaDeAndrea]

@@oneMoreMiffedBrit I don't play Myst games. Too hard for a dim bulb like me. But I don't like to think of Riven ruined.

[@HalaBasinah]

Thank you for this LP! Just like Cyan got to remake Riven, you got to remake your LP with all the knowledge and expertise you've gained over the years. And I completely agree with your assessment of the game. I'm so glad I got to play it almost for the first time again. And I'm also glad that Cyan is still out here being themselves. A small indie studio that was founded 30+ years ago, never got bought out by another company, staying true to themselves. I hope they're able to keep going. I was very sad to see in the credits that half the actors who played notable roles in the original Riven have since died. RIP to John Keston, Sheila Goold, Ernie Whitecloud, and Kate Vander Wende.

[@alex-internetlubber]

I'm sorry, who did Ernie and Kate play?

[@HalaBasinah]

@@alex-internetlubber The Moiety man in the prison and Gehn’s wife in the imager, respectively

[@TheSkullPanda]

Thank you so much for sharing this game (AGAIN) with all of us! It really punches a hole through time, and lets me connect with a bit of myself from 30 years ago when i first played this game. This series is super meaningful to me (I got the Moiety dagger as a tattoo on my arm) and I'm so glad the fanbase is still around and still finding meaning and new stories. I do really hope to live to see a new Myst game in our lifetime now. Also, that ending was superb.

[@petitwallaby]

Your let's plays feel more like storytelling than straight up walkthroughs, that's why I love them! I rewatch them all the time while working or as sleep aid! Thank you for the fantastic work!

[@daylightsleeptight]

Just for a moment at 57:23 the cloud of stars becomes a pentagon. A five-sided shape for the fifth age.

[@Fenrasulfr]

Man you made me want to rewatch the uru let's play.

[@generrosity]

I LOVE your insights about the story. And the Ana scene that most ppl wouldn't see?? And the lore from the art book too. Love your play throughs, as always, it is a beautiful gift you give us and I hope you always enjoy what you do 👌💚

[@MrTopHatZombie]

It was great to see you revisit Riven after all these years since your first LP! That Uru reference at the end brought back many ancient memories of that LP and of playing the game, I think I was subscribed at that point (that or Longest Journey, been a long 14-15 years!). Hopefully in a future Myst game we'll finally see Everdunes eh? ;P

[@PeterFraser-hp3rs]

One of those rare times in life when you can feel many of the same emotions you felt 20+ years ago anew, as if everything that happened in the intervening years never existed. Thank you, Sven!

[@tompinks_]

Thanks for yet another great LP sir, it's always a pleasure. I was a teenager when I first watched your Riven videos, it's been a great journey and the ending hasn't yet been written! Thanks again

[@MartyrDJ]

Thank you Sven! I had a lot of fun watching your playthrough. Don't be a stranger! Would love to see you play Quern some day. :)

[@Mirality]

Another thing they added in the remake: you can open the door in 233 and go outside. There's not a lot out there (except more burned books) but it's very atmospheric. The door misbehaved a lot in VR though, hopefully they've fixed that by now. In the original it seemed likely the dome spinning was a part of the mechanism to power the books inside. In the remake that doesn't make sense any more. Perhaps instead it's related to containment of the expanse. Also, still kinda seems like a dick move from Atrus to leave you to fall into the fissure, rather than inviting you back home with him. Granted, this was the last time the fissure would be accessible, but just because the book landed where you came from once doesn't mean that you would travel the same path, many years later (especially given Gehn's observations that the stars in the fissure were moving) -- or that what was a safe journey and landing for a book would be safe for you. And especially since it turns out where you came from was not far from k'Veer anyway (though nobody knew that at the time).

[@Mirality]

Actually, speaking of "many years later"... if the book did just land in front of you one day (as the Myst intro always depicts it), and didn't just spend many years buried in the desert, that does suggest travel through the fissure does take a great many years (time enough for Atrus and Catherine to have now-adult kids), so it's at least going to be a very boring journey, or a fatal one if the mysterious energies of the fissure don't remove your need to eat (which could be possible since they do something similar for breathing apparently). And we never really hear anything about the Rivanese people Gehn "tested" the fissure with... did they turn up in the desert as well at some point or did they land in a different Age entirely?

[@micahbush5397]

​@@MiralityThe Rivenese ended up somewhere in Papua New Guinea. (Rivenese is actually a language from PNG, apparently.)

[@Snowmation]

Another great Let's Play man...love that little bit you added on at the end.

[@Dilandau3000]

Yay, someone watched long enough to see it. :)

[@Snowmation]

@@Dilandau3000 :D

[@micahbush5397]

​@@Dilandau3000 Will you be doing a video of the bad endings? (Including the new one where you trap yourself immediately in K'veer?)

[@benmech]

I kinda guessed what that was but not where it was. No clue at all.

[@DavidRay_40]

@@micahbush5397 I did a video of most of the bad endings; it's coming in September.

[@woodencoyote4372]

That was great, I really enjoyed watching you go through the game thoughtfully, with an eye to the story and the original game. I watched another LP almost a month ago, right when this game released, and there are definantly something that have been changed or fixed. What stands out the most is that the first play didn't have the persistant tremors at the beginning - they go a long way to establishing the premise that the world is collapsing, before you get deep enough to read journals or see broken tram stations. Also, the imager seems to have been patched. The first time, as much as the player tried the drawer wouldn't open so they only got the one Keta message.

[@BigGator5]

I would love to see you tackle the Outer Wilds (2019) game next. It's so much like a Myst game.

[@mandrac2]

ooooooh yeah! That's one hell of a good idea!

[@rjb1714]

Thanks for the Let’s Play. Saw a few things I missed when I played it. 😂 Loved the very end with the URU scene! That’s (chef’s kiss) brilliant!

[@kattastic9999]

All done! My _god,_ what an experience! Thank you for not only giving people a chance to experience this game through you, but for dedicating yourself to walking your viewers through not only through the game but _through the experience of playing it._ Re-enacting and replicating, out loud, the process of not knowing and learning, is such a beautiful way of doing this and shows that you truly care not just about making videos on games you love, but about giving the people who want it as accurate and immersive an experience of playing as you can. It's just. Very kind of you. Thank you. And may _your_ ending never be written.

[@tidallock848]

Thank you so very much for this LP Sven! I've long been a fan of both the Myst series and your LPs so this was really a treat.

[@SotN]

Thanks for this Let's Play! I love your pacing and eye for detail, it really does great justice to the games. 😀

[@PikaLink91]

38:25 Imagine Catherine's surprise if during your leave you had mastered fluent Rivenese and been able to respond to her.

[@donwald3436]

What did she say???

[@gregkent8955]

Thank you for the slow and through walkthru done as always with love. I'm 74 and don't think I'll be around for the next version from Cyan. I have always liked your walkthrus the best; mainly because I don't have a computer fast enough to play these games after Obduction.

[@l9day]

I imagine Gehn's most annoyed at being raised in a crack in the desert rather than Gemedet

[@micahbush5397]

I think that would be more "adding insult to injury."

[@TamberCave]

So happy I played through the remake. So unbelievably happy I watched your playthrough of it. You are a deep component now of my love of Myst and Riven, and have been for many years. I can't wait to see where we end up in the future if Cyan ends up releasing new D'niverse games. Thank you so much, and I can't wait to be welcome'd back for the next adventure into my favorite fictional universe.

[@runswithsoda]

Such an enjoyable experience to go back to Riven. I learned about the lore of the game universe from your original LP. Been a fan of yours ever since. Thank you for the many years of exceptional LPs. Here's to many more! 🍸

[@andy-nicholson]

Bedankt voor deze dagen van complete gelukzaligheid! I do wish you the best in life outside KZbin and will hope you have some more inspiration to share your let’s plays with us. Shorah!

[@EnterThunderShock12]

Another amazing playthrough from you as always! I really loved this remake, I just finished it myself too, right before finishing your videos. Thank you Sven!

[@SethACampbellMusic]

Thank you so much for yet another fantastic, entertaining, and informative Let's Play! Having not played the remake yet myself, I was quite surprised how different it was, yet it was still so nice to return to the place where it all began! Hope we'll see you again before too long!

[@PikaLink91]

I liked how in your original LP you commented on Gehn having a recording of his wife that "despite all his cold actions he really did love his wife" which proved to you that he wasn't all stone cold.

[@Terezar]

I think Ghen truly believed in restoring his people to glory, he just succumbed to more and more monsterous methods to do so, and became convinced he was the only one who truly could.

[@alanoneuser]

unresolved trauma for sure

[@ORT451]

@@Terezar Add in the possibility that he may have still been grieving over the loss of both Keta and his people, which sadly only furthers the tragedy he committed.

[@alanoneuser]

It was a pleasure to revisit Riven with you Sven. Thanks for pointing out the broken railing on prison island, I also completed the entire game without ever noticing it or visiting Catherine! I think the dust or ash you mention in the viewer on 233 may actually be an integral part of the technology. Perhaps the viewer uses magnetic fields to levitate small metallic particles to create the holograms? I like the idea that these long-dead characters say their part and then collapse back into dust...

[@alanoneuser]

Another thing - not sure if you mentioned it - if you go outside on 233 you can find the burnt remains of a descriptive book with some odd topology flickering out in the linking panel. It is numbered 234, meaning that Gehn's first "escape age" had failed. He was planning to move the Rivenese to 235.

[@donwald3436]

@@alanoneuserThat's interesting..... why would Gehn bother to evacuate the Rivenese? Or does he mean only his Rivenese followers, to make it easier to oppress whoever lives on the next world he links into lol

[@alanoneuser]

@@donwald3436 I think Gehn sees himself as rebuilding the D'ni civilization in some twisted way, for which he needs other people. Gehn might conceivably be able to win over the inhabitants of another age by himself, but it would be easier with his trained followers to do his bidding and deal with any opposition.

[@donwald3436]

@@alanoneuser Very interesting, megalomania delusion.......

[@alanoneuser]

@@donwald3436 Gehn is a crazy guy with a lot of unresolved trauma

[@vigilantecaregiver6106]

Thank you for another walkthrough. Really enjoy your work and the Myst series. We're going through harvest and preservation season now; very relaxing to watch these between canning sessions.

[@BelbozUnderhill]

Thank you, truly, for this let's play, Sven. At first, I was baffled by some changes (for me, the greatest sin is the Pentagonal Room), but then all the variations started to grow on me. And, Riven (the remake, of course) is beautiful, in many ways. I love the Myst saga, and adventure games, in general. So, I hope to see another let’s play of some old but never forgotten gem. I daresay soon… in the next video. 😊

[@alanoneuser]

Do you mean the rotating room puzzle on temple island? It seemed almost identical to how I remembered it, although of course I last played Riven in 1998

[@donwald3436]

"in the next video" is a promise of more great content soon....... new series tomorrow? .... please?? lol

[@BelbozUnderhill]

@@alanoneuser Yes, the rotating room. The little viewports make the solution of the puzzle easier, and the PR becomes relevant again when you have to reach the top of the golden dome in Temple Island. As Sven said, it requires a lot of spatial orientation.

[@ShadowzGSD]

i feel bad for the Sunners, poor things RIP

[@fwfs]

Another great and insightful LP, Sven. It was great to return to Riven and watch you replay this game in a modern version.

[@mackenzielauchlan7860]

Please come back soon Sven! Thank you for the playthrough! Always a pleasure to watch!

[@davidellsworth4203]

28:03 - sniffles from Anna after the imager recording already finished playing and the ash settled back into a pile? Also at 25:34 she pronounces "D'ni" the way I'd've thought it is from how it's spelled. (I always thought it was weird Atrus and most others pronounce it "Dunny"). Which is weird to try to explain in-universe, since wouldn't she've heard it first, and only read it much later? And again speaking to Catherine is a balancing influence... the horizon level is off by 2.2° before, and only by 0.2° after speaking to her. And then again it's off by 2.1° upon returning to ground level, whereas it was level before speaking to her. And then after freeing her, it's back to normal, 0.2° tilt at ground level. Edit: Oops, @Dilandau3000 hearted this comment and then I edited it to add the part about "D'ni" pronunication. I didn't know that editing a comment automatically removes the heart. Oh well, now I know.

[@davidmonroe6930]

Thank you very much for the letsplay, it was very enjoyable to watch! As someone who doesn't have the concentration to play the thing in full, I deeply appreciate the ability to get the whole experience anyway. The fact that Gehn copies his code from Stack Overflow instead of writing his own is probably my favourite piece of Myst lore now :D

[@Zoltair_Jerry]

I so hope Cyan returns to the Myst universe. there is so much that can be done outside of the Atrus' family line. Maybe following Richard Watson after maybe learning the art from Yeesha or another DRC member or other acolyte. Can't wait to see what the future holds. Sven another solid Lets Play. Please don't stay away :)

[@craigbrotherton8679]

I can still remember water-clock, wind-spire from Myst VR

[@WarthogDemon]

Was it my eyes or or did the prison book have a tail when Catherine held it? Great game, and I too like how richer each island is now. It was fun to revisit again. Thank you for giving us this Let's Play.

[@marcobucci]

Thanks Sven! Awesome LP as usual.

[@donwald3436]

I bought and played the original Myst for PC CD-ROM, I remember writing notes in the notebook it came with, using only light pencil strokes so I could erase them later and restore the book to its original condition. It really felt like I had something special. Then I saw the creepypasta from Achenar and abandoned the whole series. I was around 10 at the time it was too much for me. Sven singlehandedly brought me back to the series and now I wish I experienced the series in its time. Damn you Achenar lol.

[@eduardovillacis432]

A few comments: 1) Why are there no restrooms in any living quarters? 2) Katherine treats you like a wife after twenty years of marriage; as soon as she sees you, she starts giving orders. 3) After Capturing Gehn, wouldn't it be safer to throw away the prison book to the ocean? If you have it at home some idiot might accidentally liberate Gehn. 4) That guy Atrus is not that different from his daddy: as soon as you are not longer needed, he throws you away. Couldn't he at least tell you that the way home or a safe place awaits you through the fissure? 5) Instead of all this elaborate rescue operation, I would have sent Gehn an actual linking book to D'ni and have a prison capsule waiting for him there ( just like the cell at the beginning of the game). And I would welcome him with a loaded machine gun in my hand like a good old Godfather movie. 6) I enjoy your walkthroughs very much. Thanks a lot and I hope there are more coming!!

[@htilden42]

Cracking LP, as always! I always love your attention to detail and also explaining the logic behind puzzles. Too many LPers want to rush through things, which is poison to the environment and mood of Cyan games. I had some mixed feelings about the Riven remake at first, mainly just because they changed things. Thinking about it now, though, I really appreciate the changes they made; the puzzles feel much more integrated into the world, even moreso than the original game, and I love the little tweaks to the lore with things like the changes to the Starry Expanse. I still wish for/hope for an update that will do things like add the bumps and jolts to the mag-lev rides, but that's such a minor thing now. So, I do feel Riven 2024 is a worthy remake that in some ways surpasses the original. Which is no small feat, and Cyan should feel proud of what they've accomplished. P.S. Regarding Aitrus's appearance in the imager vs. the photograph we presumed to be him, I figure that it was silently retconned that the photo is of Khalis, Gehn's grandfather and Aitrus's father. Aitrus was in his 80s when he died, which for a D'ni man would've still been quite young. P.P.S. There was an update recently that added some subtle changes that have interesting implications for the lore; as a hint there's something very interesting in the sky on Age 233. 😉

[@Pootmaster1]

Another great LP! Thanks so much for this.

[@AzurGamer81]

Loved it! The game is simply perfect but there are areas that could use a little seasoning like a day and night or as you progress in the game Riven begins to show signs of decay like tremors getting worse or the sky turning red. One part would be getting back from the the 233rd age and as soon as you opened the door to Gehn's lab you're hit with a massive quake and the sky becoming blood red and fractures can be seen on the walls and buildings. Just little things like that would have been neat. Still this is a great game and it's been an awesome let's play!

[@Quickshot0]

And so all were saved and sent back to where they came from... maybe. On the recordings I wonder if Ghen partially just copied his mothers belief on who was to blame here though, she'd have been influential after all. In which case maybe he kept that recording as it seemed to be a record of guilt. Something that made it all make sense to them on why things had broken down then and there. Well it was a good game overall, impressively done overall. Some compromises had to be taken in models and where you could walk, no doubt in part due to their limited size and funding, but with in those constraints it seems to have been for the most part quite amazing.

[@wattosdeal]

Hilarious drop-in and the end. Thanks for the great let's play, always full of insight and depth.

[@rafaelbendersky7736]

"Dan, I just wanted to say thank you so much for your incredible walkthrough of the Riven Remake 2024. Your attention to detail and the passion you bring to your commentary made the experience truly special. I was deeply moved and excited throughout the entire playthrough. Your work is spectacular, and I can't wait to see more from you. Keep up the amazing work!" --- Espero que esto refleje bien lo que quieres expresar.

[@Gourmetrix]

Loved this Let's Play, and love this remake. Can't wait for what Cyan creates next. As for the telescope crushing the glass and opening the fissure in the original game, that wasn't weird at all to me because when I was a kid in the 80s I had a microscope set which you could quite easily lower right onto the slide you were viewing and break it, oops.

[@SongoftheLute]

I wonder if they will remake myst 3? Thanks so much for these videos. Its been amazing to join you again for the adventure! Riven is probably the best of all of the myst games.

[@MorebitsUK]

Hi Dilandau, another great LP. I've been a fan even since Myst. Lets hope they make a Exile remake and Revelation remake!

[@micahbush5397]

9:31 "Their minds, adapted only to the exceptionally menial tasks of village life, were incapable of comprehending the Art in all its complexity, and were thus unable to glean any of the underlying principles that are, ironically, so elegantly simple. Says the guy who can't even write a stable Age.

[@JaneXemylixa]

Everything is simple if you define "stable" as "temporarily fixable with garohevtee duct tape"

[@micahbush5397]

@@JaneXemylixa I think a system that requires conscious intervention to avoid collapse is the definition of an unstable system.

[@JaneXemylixa]

@@micahbush5397 Tell that to Gehn, not me

[@benmech]

Thank you Sven. The troubling thing at the very end of Riven on too of everything else….. Catherine doesn’t know about Sirrus and Achenar and what Atrus did and all the mess with Myst. When WE (the stranger) returns to them, Yeesh is born, and then Sa’avedro tells Us what Sirrus and Achenar did. However, The night Catherine returns from Riven …. YIKES.

[@Kazuo1G]

Based on the imager, I can see where Yeesha gets her older appearance from...

[@fliesatdawn]

Thank you for a wonderful experience with this let's play!

[@theendofit]

Atrius looks vastly better now then he did pre release

[@WillSandercock]

Yeah he, Anna, and Keta look fantastic imo. Makes me feel like they put all their effort into them and didn’t focus as much as they should on gehn atrus & Catherine lol

[@swirm621]

I've always felt bad for Anna. I wish she didn't blame herself. I've always felt like the fall would have happened with or without her influence. Maybe she accelerated it, but she absolutely didn't directly cause it.

[@kattastic9999]

I can understand Anna's self-blaming attitude in the recording because it's pretty clear the Fall was still very recent and she was grieving a loss unimaginable. Genuinely believing she destroyed D'ni is too far a leap, yes, but what she's actually thinking is "If I had lived miserably, he'd still be alive, and that is a price I wish I could pay in this moment."

[@otterskyplays]

that's a beautiful game

[@ultimatecorgi3392]

Are you going to show off all the possible endings? Great series, by the way. Thanks for doing all this!

[@TheVladrusu]

And so ends the mother-of-all Let's Plays. I think I'll re-watch the Uru one next.

[@sashakindel3600]

It kind of annoys me that every character in the Myst games and novels, including the ones who are sympathetic to Anna, take for granted that she caused the fall of D'ni. I can believe that she would feel that guilty-people feel guilt irrationally all the time-but I wouldn't expect Atrus and Yeesha to uncritically go along with the idea, which is what they seem to do on the occasions they acknowledge it.

[@micahbush5397]

Judging by the imager message and _Myst: The Book of Atrus,_ Anna blamed herself for the Fall of D'ni, and Atrus never heard an alternative perspective until he began searching out other D'ni survivors. As for Yeesha, she seems to believe that the old D'ni needed to die, so from her point of view, Ti'ana actions were good, and it was D'ni's own corruption that destroyed the city. Of course, _Myst: The Book of Ti'ana_ tells a different story. Ti'ana didn't "force her ideals," she submitted evidence that proved Veovis had been framed for the murders for which he had been imprisoned, and made a case that beheading him (a virtually unheard-of punishment) would be cruel and unusual. The Council ultimately made the decision to implement her plan of writing a Book to a special Prison Age that would be destroyed as soon as Veovis linked through, and the plan would have worked if A'Gaeris hadn't used inside information and the help of slave labor to link in, dressed and shaved exactly like Veovis, such that he would be touching the Prison Age book's linking panel. So Ti'ana did nothing wrong, it was A'Gaeris who was at fault, and, to a lesser degree, the Council for underestimating him.

[@YouFightLikeACow]

Glad we're at the end! Riven is also my fav of all time and this remake was fantastic. Survey island puzzle mixed with the reduced difficulty of the fire marble puzzle was the only part I wish they improved upon. I didn't even mind the characters. Here's to more Mystverse games!

[@Lostinthestarfissure]

Thank you for this playthrough Sven! Also the end. 😂

[@blanketfox]

Amazing play through as always, thank you! As much as I love these games they aren’t the same unless you have a community in which to discuss them and share experiences. Thank you for being part of that community and producing these videos!

[@brianksiegel6865]

Hmm. Maybe you might consider alternate endings videos like what happens if you free Gehn from the trap book, constantly return to Gehn's cage without you entering the trap book, entering the trap book without visiting Gehn, and signaling Atrus without trapping Gehn or freeing Catherine. I've watched alternate endings in the original but just a thought.

[@TheSuperZorro]

Het was weer een prachtige Lets Play! Dankjewel! I do wish they gave Aitrus a bit more of an alien appearance, basically being a mole person and all...

[@tonyallen4265]

I am so thankful that the disappointment of Firmament was not a foreshadowing of the future of Cyan. The Riven remake was so on point that my attitude has turned 180 degrees. I now greatly anticipate future releases from Cyan.

[@ScooterBond1970]

Having thought about it, I think it makes sense t hat Gehn would keep at least this particular recording from his mother. After all it is her admitting her culpability in the fall of D'ni, which pretty much validates what he already thinks of her. It is, basically, confirmation bias and fits entirely with his self-serving "I'm never wrong" attitude.

[@smythsonianisback4190]

I'm sure the next Myst project will be a hit, whether it's Myst 6, another spinoff, or an Uru remake.

[@danielash1704]

Ana Navarro wife of Gehn. She was of Dni city council members there writes about the Gehn amendment lol the cost was to hi for the council to be able to do

[@JuryRigged]

It's unfortunate they had to get rid of the live-acted scenes, and I somewhat wish they'd used some other technologies (assuming they might have been available) such as face scanning and the like to keep more of that feel. That said, whether it's intentional or not, I *really* like that the lighting on the characters is slightly different than in the world proper, which keeps some of that same feeling I remember of them looking a *little* out of place (since the live-acted videos were likewise done to a green screen in most cases, I'm sure). I'm also going to have to look into this debate about the nature of descriptive books. Being able to edit the world by editing the book seems a clear-cut answer to me that the books define the worlds, especially in addition to the fact that we never see a whole world (admittedly, due to game limitations). Instead we have little isolated islands. I guess my current stance on the idea is clear, at any rate.

[@clipturn5205]

Thank you for this Playthrough Sven, it was an amazing ride! Will you do a Bonus Episode showing off the Bad Endings? I remember that you did that in your Original Riven Playthrough and I wonderd if you do that here too, especially since some of the Bad Endings have changed slightly in the Remake. Also I dont know if you noticed it or not but when the Dagger falls into the Fissure you can see Massive Starry Expanse Breaches appearing in the Sky behind it and keep growing larger and larger, was a neat little addition with the recent patch that IMO makes the Ending all that more dramatic.

[@micahbush5397]

16:05 Yes, they changed the date, probably because the old date (87.7.30) is impossible with the D'ni calendar, which has 10 "months" of 29 "days" each. Unfortunately, it seems that instead of changing the "month" to 8, they moved back a month, which still can't be right, since the dates in Atrus's journal weren't changed. (Unless they're implying that Gehn forgot which month it was, a very human thing to do.) Also, I don’t like the change of Gehn remembering the theft of the discarded Linking Book, or putting together that Catherine has written a new Age with that Book. I prefer the idea that the Moiety, by taking the Book out of the furnace, evaded Gehn's notice.

[@micahbush5397]

Also, it is a bit weird that Aitrus appears much younger in the imager than in the photo. Maybe the imager recording was from around the time he married Anna, and the photo is from shortly before the Fall? (That, or the photo is of Kahlis, as you suggested.) Regardless, it's a bit strange that Aitrus went through all the trouble of learning English when Anna already knew D'ni. (Actually, the same is true for Catherine, because she already knew D'ni when she met Atrus, yet they apparently settled on English for their default language on Myst.)

[@PerryWhyte]

When I first played Riven, one thing I was hoping to find in 233 but wasn't there was the Book Crystal Gehn had stolen from the Moiety. But now I think the reason we can't find it here is because Gehn took it with him. Since he had no way of knowing the Riven book was still in K'veer, Gehn probably had a linking book to 233 with him along with the Book Crystal to power it.

[@donwald3436]

I tried to watch your Myst III LP next but.... your style has improved since then? I did enjoy your opening fanfic tho!

[@aarontrupiano9328]

I guess myst 3 is next on the list of remakes? it's the one I grew up with and I know there are a lot of views and scenes in it that would be a treat to see in vr. also, something I've wondered about for years now is how much of riven got destroyed when the fissure got reopened? the immediate area we see in the game, the entire planet riven takes place on, or did the entire universe it was a part of somehow collapse into it?

[@jasminepsiidmon321]

Is that final scene teasing Uru again? Do you think they'll release this remake one for consoles (my roommate wants to experience it for themself as they never managed to play the original game)? And do you think they'll make a remake of Exile - would Brad Dourif's retirement (outside of Chucky/Childs Play related works) affect things, if they did have to make changes to the dialouge... hm. In any case, thank you for making the return to work amazing for me, getting a little slice of your calming LP style has been great. Now I need to finally get off my butt and watch Firmament lol

[@Dilandau3000]

It's just a little joke based on the fact that that's where the fissure comes out in Uru. As much as a remake of Exile would be cool, I doubt it'll happen since Cyan didn't make that game in the first place.

[@PikaLink91]

Thanks for yet another great LP buddy! Looking forward to your next one. By the way, did you back the Linking Book kickstarter back then? And if so, did you get that inkwell?

[@Dilandau3000]

Yes, I thought I mentioned that in the videos?

[@PikaLink91]

@@Dilandau3000 You might've. I may have missed it. I listen to these as background noise so it might have slipped me.

[@TheChefmike66]

Thanks for this. I also played the original when it first came out. I might have to get the new one, based on your review. Even though you just walked me through it. EDIT: punctuation

[@michaelscott5653]

It was Veovis and A'gaeris that cause the fall of D'ni

[@TheExileFox]

Maybe we will laso see Myst3 and 4 in VR/3d one day. Can you imagine the thrill of that "roller coaster"on Amateria in VR ?

[@TheInkPitOx]

I hope the next LP is a good one.

[@HunterDrone]

ironic that despite how long the series has persisted, there are still only *five* main line games. #ghenwasright

[@TheInkPitOx]

How is it ironic?

[@aqualung2000]

Do you guys think the remake would have been better if it was all still pre-rendered but in full screen HD?

[@zp2814]

I hope they bring back the original video animation and characters.

[@mandrac2]

Do you have a po box or something where we can send you things? I want to craft you a little something to celebrate those 15 years of lets play and the channel going full circle with riven.

[@Dilandau3000]

Sorry, I don't, and I don't want to share my address, obviously.

[@mandrac2]

@@Dilandau3000 Understandable that's why i asked if you had a PO box.

[@Calculon1712]

I know ive mentioned this before in the past but i hope you get to play DS9: Harbinger, you could say its Star Treks answer to Myst in a way plus its the remaining clasic Trek adventure game you havent done on the channel

[@tuschman168]

Gehn is fuming right now!

[@smythsonianisback4190]

Are you going to do a "bad endings" video?

[@pkilla617]

How did Catherine know ghen was actually trapped in the book when she opened it?

[@theendofit]

I assume there was somw way to trap yourself and thats why that bridge cant be retracted any more. My guss is it had to deal with auto telporting location if you get stuck or fall out of bounds put you somewhere that if bridges were all retrackted yould be trapped

[@NikaNakaidze]

Ahh sun looks so calming in this age

[@fieryphoenix2501]

please tell me like the OG LP that you will do the bad endings as well

[@zp2814]

Will Cyan ever remaster/redo the other Myst games?