Let's Take a Good Look at These Next-Gen Nintendo Rumors

[@ArloStuff]

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[@argil7192]

Arlo install Gentoo for content

[@encampedmars627]

Arlo pulled a tom scott lol

[@Professorofcreation]

@arlo switch advance

[@zavery_johnson]

How is your pinned comment 2 days ago?

[@mrjonny3141]

@@zavery_johnsonThat is weird, didn’t even notice

[@BoyleVoices]

Backwards compatibility is an absolute must. Especially considering their competitors offer it for free.

[@1HundoGames]

They don't, you need a subscription

[@ob1slam]

Nintendo don't give a sh!t about what you want. If they can make you buy the same games again, they will.

[@midosyt]

they meant backwards compatibility to last gen not any system before that @@1HundoGames

[@Matanumi]

watch them only do it with the digital side of games

[@Purpletrident]

@@1HundoGames A subscription for what? Almost all games on PS and xbox are BC for free, and most games also offer a free upgrade to the next gen. There's no subscription there.

[@NathanielBandy]

Almost every previous Nintendo console and handheld has had backwards compatibility to some extent, it would be genuinely shocking if the Switch were any different

[@tonydelamancha5513]

But also, money

[@created3612]

Hold up…

[@jgt1120]

The most recent change 3ds/Wii U -> Switch didn't have backwards compatibility

[@MaherandIbrahimsAvengers]

Not to mention Nintendo has made it clear that they do want some type of way to bring digtal games from console to console via Nintendo Accounts so having the ability for phyiscal games to also be backwards compatible makes to much sense

[@sahaprocks7751]

@@jgt1120 the Wii U used discs and the Switch uses cartridges so I can see why there was no backwards compatibility there. But this will be another Switch and It will definitely use cartridges. So there’s little excuse here. Can’t come up with an excuse for the 3DS. Uh maybe because of that small thing on the cartridge that prevented you from putting it in a DS idk

[@DanGamingFan2406]

I understand the issue with cartridges, but I'm hoping Nintendo never goes fully digital. Physical copies of any media, movies, TV shows, and games, are important for preserving them, good or bad, for future generations. Also, backwards compatibility is absolutely necessary to stay ahead of their competitors offering past gen games on current gen consoles for free.

[@watershipup7101]

Very much agreed

[@MrLinkDay]

I wouldn't worry about it, I love Nintendo and I agree with still having physical copies of games, but they will probably be the last ones to abandon physical games. Nintendo is very conservative most of the time.

[@RustyNips]

The day we stop getting physical games is the day I stop paying for them

[@excadrillo99]

Being able to collect physical games for the switch with the full game on the cart is why it's my favorite console over PS5

[@MrMoon-hy6pn]

@@RustyNips well yeah... how can you pay for physical games if you can't get them 🧐

[@marshmardgames9884]

I believe the “to avoid shortages” means it’s gonna be ready by maybe June 2024, but they’re gonna be spending more time manufacturing units to have a better launch

[@Lightspeeds]

I think it would be leaning towards September at the earliest.

[@edvance1030]

I really don't think it's coming next year. I believe it'll come in 2025 at the earliest.

[@LIVEvil789]

@@edvance1030 One thing Arlo neglected to mention was that in the documents for the recent Microsoft vs Sony for the Activision merger mention that they made a 10-year deal with Nintendo to bring CoD to their next console. In the official court transcripts, they state that it's expected in the near future, next year. So 2024 it seems to be.

[@Franklinstein18]

THIS! More time to manufacture means more units on shelves to sell to try to allocate for potential/possible demand

[@Fdatubeofyou]

It’s not that hard of a concept. Arlo was just mid rant and not thinking

[@RawPower867]

The next system needs to be backwards compatible. Anything less is unacceptable.

[@Barquevious_Jackson]

You'll probably buy it though.

[@Sabundy]

But backwards compatibility is only possible to a degree. Especially if people actually want next gen hardware. It amazes me how much people can't understand that there are engineering and technical challenges to providing next gen hardware and backwards compatibility. It's very difficult to do both to the degree that will satisfy most people.

[@RawPower867]

@@Barquevious_Jackson Nope. I don't support anti-consumer BS. No BC = I'm sticking with Sony and Microsoft.

[@RawPower867]

@@Sabundy They had no trouble doing it on previous handhelds. And if Sony and Microsoft can provide it, Nintendo has no excuse.

[@c0mpu73rguy]

Yeah yeah, do you want it to be free as well? Jeesh, the entitlement of some people nowadays!

[@moritakaishida7963]

8:38 I hope things NEVER go fully digital, it would be a truly horrible thing for media conservation in the future if there aren't physical options for games

[@sahaprocks7751]

Nintendo will 100% be the last ones to go full digital since they’re always the last ones to do trends

[@joe-moe]

Are you kidding? It's way easier to back up and dump digital games than physical ones.

[@4rtie]

@@joe-moe and then the eshop closes.

[@-PulseGTC-]

I’m a game collector, if Nintendo goes full digital, I’m not buying new games. edit: why did this get so many likes

[@joe-moe]

@@4rtie People can still conserve games even if the eshop closes. It's still possible to get Super Mario 3D All-Stars for example.

[@Wario_Guy]

The next direct will stink because there won’t be any Pikmin 4 just saying

[@oscarheller6310]

dlc?

[@Primitiveman-dk4ud]

@@oscarheller6310that’s true

[@koatam]

Pikmin 5!

[@ahmedhasan4966]

If the next Nintendo direct has no Pikmin it's automatically bad!

[@paichni3474]

Hey pikmin 2 (no joke I’d be kinda hyped, I liked hey pikmin).

[@kevbloxtime]

Considering the 3DS was a follow up to the DS and that had backwards compatibility, it feels like a good bet to say the “Switch 2” will have it as well

[@astr0sauce]

that was a decade ago.

[@kevbloxtime]

@@astr0sauce I’m glad you understand how time works! Have a cookie 🍪

[@astr0sauce]

@@kevbloxtime basing current nintendo’s decisions on their decisions for the 3DS in 2010 is ridiculous.

[@Calvinioli]

Considering we are in a similar situation it wouldn't be hard to believe they would take a similar path. The DS was extremely popular and is one of the best selling consoles. It was a revolutionary console for having 2 separate screens with one being touch. It ammases a huge library of games and large player base. The next handheld comes along and they just add to the formula with a 3d screen and better performance while also allowing backwards compatibility so all those players have a reason to upgrade. However since the switch is the first console in a long time (gamecube for consoles, and the gameboy for portable) to not offer any sort of backwards compatibility, though unlikely due to the continued use of cartridges and is likely to be similar to the switch (with some little gimmick to entice upgrading), they could have started down a road that would lead to the end of backwards compatibility.

[@hedwyn8803]

@@astr0sauce GBA ran GB/C, DS ran GBA, 3DS ran DS, Wii ran Gamecube, Wii U ran Wii. They have a long history of supporting backwards compatibility when the physical medium is compatible, even going out of their way to add cartridge ports as with the DS.

[@Ph1syc]

i absolutely LOVE this once in seven years tradition of Nintendo fans just collectively speculating on the next big thing, reminds me of the reasons i love this fandom!

[@Filotus]

Except it feels like it's been speculation for 7 years about the Switch's successor.

[@Chiller31916]

​@@FilotusI feel the same way

[@Filotus]

@@Chiller31916 I guess that's the Switch's impact.

[@Wiziliz]

​@@Filotus To be fairness NX speculation was reeeally quick after Wii U release

[@Chiller31916]

@@Wiziliz True, though that was more due to the Wii U's disastrous performance & people were itching for something new. To me, seems like people have been speculating about Switch 2(or Switch Pro) due to people constantly complaining how underpowered the Switch is compared to then current Gen consoles (Xbox One vs PS4 at the time).

[@cardinal8200]

I was honestly surprised to hear Arlo's take on the possibility of a digital only console. I Love love love my physical copies of things and while I have a few downloaded small games having a game I can loan out to friends, instantly play, and also go through the whole procses of going to the store to pick it up and read the box I enjoy so much. I dont think digital only would stop me from buying a console or games but it would be a very big negative if they didnt have some sort of physical insert to their system.

[@moth2120]

Imo, digital only consoles can only be harmful. They literally only take away functionality from people who like physical. I can't fathom why someone would advocate for that. It's not like people who buy digital currently cant

[@AkuAkane]

I'm a physical collector myself and would be sad to see it go. Arlo mentioned in one of his Pikmin livestreams that he just doesn't collect physical games at all, which is probably why he seems unbothered by the prospect of it not being an option anymore. Was pretty surprising to me too when I first found out he's not a collector.

[@LordWiseWolf]

I personally think they would handle backwards compatibility in a very anti-consumer way. Like you can only do it with digital titles and you have transfer your switch ID into the Super switch so you can’t have both. Hopefully they go full pro-consumer and do physical and digital without any strings attached. We shall see.

[@wail2774]

Nah mate lmfao

[@Matanumi]

Yeah I have a feeling it'll be digital only as well

[@amengaming777]

In order to get switch 1 games on switch 2 you need the expansion to the nso expansion pass that costs $120 a year

[@CharmedReally7]

they were pretty good with backwards compatibility when they didn't change the physical format so i wouldnt worry about that

[@hatchell18]

Almost all of their previous systems have had free backwards compatibility with 1-2 older systems so I’m sure the new switch will too

[@WildFox-h1u]

With the backwards compatibility thing, there's no way they'd release a game as massive as TotK a year before a new system that isn't backwards compatible with it. The fact that we are getting new games at a pretty decent pace really solidifies to me that the next system will be backwards compatible.

[@lowqualityvideos8091]

the last of us came out the year the ps4 released and you couldn't play that on there but idk that was architecture issues 🤷‍♂️

[@need_dopamine2658]

@@lowqualityvideos8091 that was also sony? lol

[@manguy01]

I feel like NIntendo stands to gain a lot by upping the hard drive space. They would make a lot more money if people felt comfortable buying digital games without having to worry about running out of space.

[@bvmovies2]

You know you can just put a memory card in your switch right?

[@Cless]

​@@bvmovies2 this reply was so useless, good job buddy

[@High_Noon_Sports_Cards]

⁠@@Clesswasn’t useless. He’s exactly right. If Nintendo ups the storage they’re going to charge more than it would cost to buy a microSD yourself. Look at the Steam Deck…They charge 130$ more for less than 200gb of extra storage…You can get a 1tb SD card for less than that 🥴

[@2intheampm512]

Agreed. And it'll end up being between 128 and 512GB of UFS 3.0/3.1 storage. 256GB is the most likely

[@dragonicbladex7574]

@@High_Noon_Sports_CardsI would just like to note there is a difference between an internal SSD and an SD card

[@SenpaiSoren]

Regarding cartridge usage: a huge problem with any optical media is that it’s incredibly prone to skipping if it’s jostled. CD players solved this in the early 2000s by reading data into memory so that, in the event of a jostle, it can detect and read from the buffer, thus preventing skips. However, in an audio CD, you can do this more easily; after you play the data for seconds 1-3, you’re going to need the data for seconds 4-6, so it’s easy to know what you need to load into memory. It’s a bit more difficult with a video game - the game doesn’t know what data you’re going to be accessing ahead of time, so it’s harder to know what to buffer. Optical media on a portable system may require increased load times to buffer more data, or increased costs for fast internal memory so more data can be buffered throughout / it can be loaded more quickly. Part of the expense of cartridges has been that flash memory prices were incredibly high through late last year due to shortages. As that’s calmed down, it seems likely that Nintendo’s next system will be able to offer larger bucket sizes for cartridges (anticipating an absolute max of 256gb which rarely if ever gets used) at the same if not better prices as the Switch’s lower capacity cartridges.

[@mikelujanable]

I always hated optical media. 3d nand ftw

[@StarWolf5298]

3:48 I think it just means they're spending an extra 6 months to manufacture more units & have a stockpile.

[@anis6800]

Cartridges are basically necessary if you want good battery life on your handheld. A spinning disc reader eats up your battery so much and is noisy as hell. Not to mention a lot of extra parts that could break during travel or when you drop it...

[@animeadict17]

I am so excited that I got to ride along on the hype train to the “NX” with Arlo and we had this glorious adventure that is the switch generation!!! Arlo, you are my favorite Nintendo KZbinr and one of my fav overall content creators! I am very excited to watch this video and watch all your future content :)

[@animeadict17]

@@GigaWiiU64 I have really enjoyed watching Scott and Antdude and the completionist and Bob Wulf among so many others. I love watching Scott’s end of year wrap up for the switch. I love rewatching the completionist’s review of hyrule Warriors with the train ride up to Nintendo HQ. The switch has been my fav Nintendo console and I just can’t wait to see what is next.

[@OintmentNailhead]

I seriously doubt that the next gen console won’t have backwards compatibility because of all of the new games releasing this year and Splatoon 3’s DLC still not being released.

[@Final_Starman]

Just started Metroid Prime remastered, absolutely loving it! The only other Metroid game I’ve played was Dread and I LOVE that game, beat it 100%

[@maxrn3923]

That's exactly my experience with Dread! Hyped to play Metroid Prime eventually!

[@KrimsonRubio]

Amazing games. Do you a favor and play Metroid Fusion too. It's on the GBA expansion pack.

[@dinar8749]

Metroid is awesome :)

[@despacitospider8132]

Moss

[@Final_Starman]

@@despacitospider8132 Olimar

[@Bedwyr7]

I don't see how they wouldn't do cartridges. Obviously discs aren't tenable on a portable system and they have a genetic disposition toward overprotective copy prevention measures. That removes microSD from consideration (which is also too physically small to handle easily). And they want to keep a physical option around. I think with the market for NAND memory as it is they'll be ok.

[@kdeneonunofficial]

The switch has microsd up to 1tb, the super nintendo switch should have microsd too.

[@Ashinle]

The song at the beginning is the museum theme from Origami King for anyone who wants to know

[@SilverSpireZ]

Imma be real with you, chief. I don’t care how reputable the sources are. We’ve been burned so many times at this point that I will not believe anything that anyone says about their next system until I see it from Nintendo and have it in my hands.

[@ahmedhasan4966]

I definitely agree with you I am honestly so tired of the rumors for "switch 2"

[@redwidow1358]

You've only been "burned" if you've been listening to sources that *aren't* reputable. The only sources that *really matter* are the Nvidia leak of about 250GB of data, and these more recent ones.

[@astr0sauce]

@@redwidow1358lmao these ppl believe every reddit leak they see then talk about getting “burned”

[@xXEPIKgamerXx]

How can you be "burned", its not like you spent money or hours on the idea of a new system, we all just talk and have fun with the possibilities. Such a weird ass take.

[@2intheampm512]

I can give you basically all of the SoC specs right now and I am legitimately 99% confident in all of them. The chip is T239, codename Drake. GPU: 12SM Nvidia Ampere (GA10F). 1536 CUDA Cores, 12 RT Cores, 48 Tensor Cores. 2 TFLOPs FP32 in handheld mode (660MHz per SM, power draw of 4.2W total for GPU). 3.5 TFLOPs docked mode at 1.125GHz per SM, 9.1W power draw. Nvidia DLSS 2.x implemented in graphics API level. CPU: 8x ARM Cortex A78C cores clocked between 1.5 and 1.8 GHz Memory: 12GB of LPDDR5 6400Mhz on a 128 bit bus, 102GB/s of bandwidth Performance: 1080P 60FPS (with some DLSS 2 upscaling) in handheld mode. 4K 30+ in docked (with extensive upscaling)

[@amateraceon5202]

I think I’ve reached a point in my gaming career where I care significantly more about the software/games themselves rather than the console they’re coming out on, and I’m just finding myself less and less invested in these kinds of rumors over time

[@jaykebird2go]

To be fair, at this point, the consoles coming out nowadays aren't really revolutionary steps above what came before. The jump from N64 to GameCube, or NES to SNES are more obviously apparent than the difference between what the Wii U and Switch can put out. The hardware isn't really being as much a limit anymore on the types of games one can create.

[@enrique9925]

Yeah but if the console is born death, that impacts the quantity and quality of the games we get. Like the wiiu vs switch story.

[@Matanumi]

Yeah PC is coming out on top to be the ultimate experience in consoles have become kind of a scam.... western development has gotten to be a lazy cash grab with unfinished games and DLCs and expensive budgets for games not really worth it Nintendo systems are slightly different but paying for online in anyway still pisses me off

[@shrimpshufflr7745]

@@enrique9925 not really because so many of the switches best games are Wii U ports

[@Amaling]

​@jaykebird2go the hardware is absolutely a limitation in the case of Wii U and Switch lmao, Zelda games tailor engineered for those consoles are fighting for their life to have solid FPS, and almost all AAA releases outside of Nintendo can't feasibly put ports onto the Switch

[@darth124]

One of my worst days in a while. I always know arlo will make it better.

[@ipadbossbaby4558]

Hope brighter days are ahead for you :)

[@chrisawsm-q3p]

Things get better, hope you feel better

[@nike.lodigas]

He does!! I hope you have better days soon :)

[@amadeoel3781]

When life turns bad it is because it leads to something that was meant to happen down the road, heads up!

[@TorrentialStardust]

Fuckin same dude. Hopefully we can both get to the other side of it.

[@bestgames64]

I love your hellos in the intro, they make me really happy

[@danhigg]

I hope for backwards compatibility, but an unfortunate by product of that would be that, on day one of release, the "Switch 2" eshop will be automatically populated with the mountains of shovelware that is plaguing the current eshop.

[@moth2120]

This could be avoided by implementing a quality certification system on the new system and make "unproven"/indie developers re-apply for it. I know its not the most dev friendly, but it's the bed nintendo has made for themselves. The E-Shop is abysmal right now.

[@dragoon1090]

​@@moth2120it just needs an entirely new storefront. The other platforms (Xbox, ps, steam) have just as much bullshit on them and they're much easier to navigate. I don't understand Nintendo's logic. The eShop should have been redesigned years ago.

[@VOAN]

It's likely they gonna had two shop sections similar to 3DS and DSi. All HD stuff will be in the Switch section while all the 4K stuff will be in the next gen section of the shop. Then when the time comes Nintendo could easily just close down the Switch section of the shop 5-7 years after the next gen console launch.

[@cyxceven]

Back compat is key to getting people to even consider upgrading. If they can start using their Switch 2 day one with a pre-existing library of games, then sales will be strong right out of the gate.

[@dante19890]

but people still have their old switch to play the old switch games and the new switch for the new games. Its not really that big of a deal as long as there are new nextgen switch games comming

[@sigzbro]

​@@dante19890Some people sell their previous consoles to be able to buy the new one.

[@HardboiledBread]

Especially if some switch games get an update to run better on the new consoles

[@MikeTheGamerGuy]

​@@dante19890the switch is portable, you'd be asking people to lug around 2 incredibly similar devices for no practicle reason.

[@dante19890]

@@MikeTheGamerGuy Its more transportable than portable. Its not like u gonna stick it in a pocket and its fighting for pocket space. Ur buying the nextgen console to play the new games on it anyway.

[@indigofawkes8736]

As long as they are working with a handheld/hybrid console they have to stick with cartridges, trying to have a disc spinning while using something that could be moving around will just lead to damages, even the PSP's UMDs weren't a good solution for this (i've had the metal disc in the center come loose making the UMD useless), which is why the vita went with cartridges as well.

[@bmxw8713]

A crazy idea for half backwards compatibly would be being just on the dock, like a separate cartridge port

[@itsBASILLICUS]

its just insane enough that i could buy nintendo doing something so ridiculous

[@Ph1syc]

it will also be a bit sad as you wont be able to play them on the go without the switch

[@Matanumi]

Nah. But it'll be digital only

[@tootcrazu]

​@@Ph1syc they'd probably make you buy some kind of fancy dongle for that : )

[@ShellTree]

@@tootcrazu they wouldn’t do that for security’s sake

[@mdlouis1859]

The first video i ever watched on your channel was covering the NX rumors, and ive been watching ever since. It almost brings a tear to my eye tothink about the amount of time that has passed since then.

[@CanonWelding]

Ideally I would want a switch that can still be played on the TV while undocked for dual screen play. Basically a Wii U 2 but also fully portable. If that were the case we could have a machine capable of playing everything from Nintendos history.

[@alexh7513]

Would be geat but this would be unpossible. Because the only option is to stream from the handheld to the TV, but than 4k resolution with upscalling would be not possible and i think this is a must have for the new system.

[@orthochronicity6428]

I believe there's some confusion about backwards compatibility because some developers talk about it in the same sentence with cross gen compatibility on new games. And sure, a new game available on the old system doesn't provide incentive for the new system to be bought, but that's a different thing. Hopefully Nintendo is smart enough to understand this simple distinction, but I never like things that rely on hoping Nintendo understands something the rest of us see as obvious.

[@Vezon2121]

The biggest thing that I am happy about is the cartridge slot. Why? Means theres a teeny eeny weeny chance that switch games are backwards compatible. Meaning potentially plug a switch game into this new console and get a resolution bump. if thats the case then YESS!!

[@MrGamerofmusic]

Considering the moves they have made to get most games in a series, on switch lately. When a new game is on the horizon. Plus the board meetings where they emphasized, having legacy content and new content on one profile. The new console would hurt the current game plan if it wasn’t backwards compatible

[@megamanzero29]

Arlo’s biggest question about the next Nintendo console: can it play Pikmin 4?

[@BobzBlue]

Do you think there could be a chance the cartridge slot would be just for backwards compatibility?

[@blueberrimuffin6682]

I kinda doubt it. Most consoles made have their compatibility built into the main game port because they use the same thing.

[@VOAN]

It's likely they gonna made the cartridge a different size but with more or less number of pins from the Switch one. The pins are the only important parts, if the pins had the exact connection as Switch then Switch games could be play but if the pins had the exact connection as the next gen Nintendo console then that game would be play instead. It'll be similar to the Game Boy / GBC situation.

[@BobzBlue]

@@VOAN I meant that all next gen games could be digital only, but the console still has a cart. slot for backwards compatibility

[@yosbo9060]

@@BobzBlue I could honestly see them using the same sized carts as Switch. If the game is too big to fit, just require that the user download the rest.

[@7milesdavis]

I can’t wait for the switch 2 and hopefully a new 2d Zelda soon!

[@charliecrome207]

2D breath of the wild hybrid type game would be interesting

[@ThomasCuerden]

Mate I'm still catching up on all the old stuff, if they release a new 2d Zelda, It's gonna be out of control

[@hedwyn8803]

Hoping for a Link Between Worlds style game with a whole new world map, be it Hyrule or somewhere new ^^

[@alfiehicks1]

Why would they make a new 2D Zelda when they could just make a half-remake of an old one and fill it with dumb, unnecessary gimmicks? Or even just completely reskin an old one, make barely any mechanical changes, and sell it for full price!

[@DOSFrost]

There's a new switch 2 rumor every year. I've stopped caring by last year. But Arlo makes good content so here's some engagement, a full watch and a thumbs up!

[@anonwalkerr]

The reason it’s coming out next year is because production will start early in the year so they can stockpile units

[@anonwalkerr]

They will get like 12m+ units out there imo. Should be enough for oct to the end of the year

[@kgrose102]

I hope it has backwards compatibility. For the Cartridges I could see them doing something similar to the DS to 3DS where DS cartridges work in a 3DS, but 3DS cartridges don't work. To help alleviate concerns for people not buying the game on the new console, they could do "switch cartridges will only run at switch spec, unless you purchase the upgrade"

[@StarWolf5298]

If we're lucky, the Switch 2 will finally be powerful enough to run PS2 Kingdom Hearts games natively!

[@MusicJunkie37]

It already is, that one is on Square

[@totalradlad]

I believe that the main issue that Square had with native ports was something about storage. If the next console fixed that, we could very well get all of the games natively, including 2.8 and 3.

[@StarWolf5298]

@@totalradlad Dumb excuse that doesn't hold up in the slightest. 1. Some of Square other ports were drastically shrunk down compared to their PS4 versions (IE Nier Automata was nearly 50GB on PS4 but only 16GB on Switch). 2. 1.5 & 2.5 could've always been sold separately like on PS3. Hell sell each individually if need be. 3. They could go digital only & not bother with carts. After the XBox versions of the collections never had physical copies so why is that a deal breaker on Switch?

[@totalradlad]

@@StarWolf5298 Yeah it is incredibly stupid. I'm just saying that Square is lazy, but they will have no excuse to not natively port them if the next console is more powerful/has better storage/etc.

[@sofia_drawsmore]

i still really love the video you made the night before the switch was first officially announced, about how special a moment in time that was. Being on the cusp of knowing what was next, and just kind of soaking in the feeling of anticipation. I think about that a lot.

[@thirteen3678]

On the cartdridge front, it's the same thing they did with the n64. It's harder to pirate, so they prefer it.

[@animeartist888]

To be fair, discs don't like being moved whilst playing. Cartridges are the way to go for a portable system for sure. But they'll never use a commonly available format like SD cards for the piracy reason.

[@gavinthecrafter]

Some consoles had excuses for not being backwards compatible. The switch didn’t have a game pad function and didn’t have a disc slot, so it was understandable. The GameCube had discs and the N64 didn’t, so that was also understandable. But considering that the next gen console will likely use the same form factor and game format, I think it’s reasonable to expect backwards compatibility

[@dylanmaguire8902]

I honestly hope they at least keep the 7 inch screen for the next switch. The oled is great, don't get me wrong, but I really appreciate the increased screen size

[@Matanumi]

I've heard it'll be 8 inch

[@2intheampm512]

​@@MatanumiYep its a 7.91" 1080P LCD panel (sadly not OLED, but it is a much nicer screen than the Switch base)

[@NintonicGamer]

I love you too! Also Kane's editing was really good with music choices

[@brady9592]

I guess I'm at the age where I don't want change because the idea of the switch no longer being the active Nintendo console fills me with a strange sort of dread rather than excitement.

[@animeartist888]

Welcome to my world. I haven't been in the midnight release lines ever, and as an adult who has to buy the consoles for myself rather than get them for gifts, I definitely dread seeing announcements for a new Switch. I love my Switch, and I'm really not ready for game store shelves to clear out for games only playable on the new one.

[@awood9214]

Hey Arlo, not sure if you heard the news but Charles Martinet is retiring. A living legend such as him definitely deserves a tribute video. What do you think? Stay safe man

[@thespeedyyoshi]

I love how Arlo takes 2-3 minutes to get to the conversation topic of the video every time. Like genuinely. Arlo never change ^w^

[@JoseRodriguez-mj1qm]

Internet stop spreading rumors about NextGen Nintendo Console Challenge: impossible difficulty

[@Mike-wr7om]

I was hoping that the long-rumored Donkey Kong game would come out on Switch (along with an HD re-release of DKC returns so we could have the complete trilogy on one system), but, alas, it looks like it won't happen. Which means it is probably coming out on the next system, which unfortunately I won't be able to buy for a while.

[@kurtg5405]

I want a full remake of the original DKC Trilogy, that would be god tier

[@Roboten10]

The fact that it’s a cartridge slot increases the Chance of it being backwards compatible, so in this case i would say it’s a good sign. Because no shot Nintendo would add a CD module and a cartridge slot just so it could play old switch games.

[@cobradap]

Storage on the cartridges should not be an issue. I have a 1 Tb microSD card for my Steamdeck and it didnt set me back that much.

[@-aexc-]

yeah flash storage is getting real cheap, a 2tb high end Samsung ssd is 80 dollars now

[@Purpylon]

If a system isn't backwards compatible i usually wait a few years for the library to grow. If it is, i usually buy it when the first big game arrives. If they want early sales, they need backwards compatibility.

[@dugoose6934]

I love your videos so much arlo thank you for making great content 😊

[@deku812]

To clarify, the BC comment is 3rd party publishers not happy with low software sales on PS5 and Series S/X because of BC and likely lobbying Nintendo to drop it. I doubt Nintendo will listen but the low software sales is for real. We're 3 years into the generation and cross-gen is still a thing. PS5 software sales in Japan is atrocious. The list goes on.

[@coldyummysugarfoods]

I really hope we get backwards compatibility

[@VOAN]

It'll likely happen but only on the launch version. We all know Nintendo will start removing features once they made redesign version of their console.

[@googleit1131]

My IT guy use to have a client that was a video game developer in my area. Big name company. He set up their workstations and internal network (he never worked on the games) He went in one day to do some regular routine maintenance, installing a new workstation for a new hire. The head of the company walked up to him and said "do you want to see the PS5" (This was before it was announced publically). Obviously, IT guy said yes and was led to a PC tower with custom hardware inside (the dev kit). The head of a major AAA developer wasnt even trying to hide the fact that a PS5 was near to being announced. And yes, the IT guy said it wasnt just them pulling his leg. It was legitimately the dev kit that was available at the time. If they heads of developers are so candid about this, i can onlu imagine how people lower on the totem pole are. Im suprised the specs havent leaked tbh

[@mistaburrito]

They could go with 2 versions at launch like the Steam device; 1 with 128G with LED screen, and 1 with 256G OLED Also want backwards compatibility 😅

[@tobias-brandt]

But then the people won't buy both 😮 First Version with LED and 3 years later the oled... That's more switches sold as with your consumer friendly proposal 😢 And without backwards compatibility they can sell you everything again: Mario Cart 8, SSB, Pikmin 3, Zelda etc

[@2intheampm512]

It's only one model at launch, and it's an LCD panel. Likely to be 256GB of storage

[@alexh7513]

@@2intheampm512We don‘t know this yet. But i think they release also a Switch Lite 2 at Launch. Maybe later a Oled model.

[@fausthanos08]

And maybe a "lite" model

[@Kali-Yuga-Peace-Corp]

What they should do is have more power inside the Dock, so it competes with other consoles at home. They should also bring the Switch Lite along. You can easily have a larger OLED screen with the same size. There should also be more apps available, like Facebook and Netflix and so on.

[@yooniversal7770]

LCD tech has improved a lot since 2017 too, I’m willing to give the screen quality the benefit of the doubt

[@chocolocojames213]

I'm excited to see what gimmicks they'll show and no one will use 😄😄😄

[@animeartist888]

Right??? Even the Switch was like this for me lmao. I turned off HD rumble cuz I hate the vibrations in my hands and turned off gyro because I frequently move around or sit in weird positions while playing. I do wish more games used the touchscreen, though. Especially for things like typing in a file name or scrolling through tutorial text.

[@tntblast500]

@@animeartist888 I think you're in the minority if you consider gyro or rumble gimmicky. They're both fairly standard controller features.

[@kdeneonunofficial]

And the ir sensor function has finalky been used by trombone champ!

[@UltimatePerfection]

I really wish Nintendo would start competing on specs again. Don't tell me that they never did, because I know for a fact that they did. N64 was the best console on the market at the time, and was only hampered by the low amount of RAM and no optical drive. Had it had a CD drive and decently big RAM, it would dominate that generation. Same with Gamecube, it still was one of the best consoles that generation (better than the Dreamcast), but was beaten by PS2, because, just like Dreamcast, it didn't have an extra function of playing DVDs. Then the Wii happened, an underpowered system that somehow did very well due to gimmick controls, and they started to release crap consoles. But yeah, if they start competing on specs+having the power of their amazing first-party titles, I think we would have a generation winner on our hands.

[@emmanuelavalos6820]

My personal hope is that nintendo adds something new to the controllers. My biggest wish would be the addition of either touch pads or standard backbuttons

[@hedwyn8803]

I would love backbuttons, even if they're just set up to copy some other button on the controller. They're so nice on the third party controllers I use!

[@SilverSpireZ]

As nice as those would be, they should probably focus on making sure their new controllers actually work this time before they think about adding anything new.

[@ironicdivinemandatestan4262]

My biggest hope is to make the ZL and ZR buttons into analog triggers.

[@alexh7513]

Already exists on the Switch: the Hori Split Pad

[@ThatWalleyeGuy]

That Pikmin 4 hype still building..

[@NJLGamer]

separating the launch and first holiday in my opinion is a good idea. The 3ds had a pretty good first party launch year line up, but non of the good titles were out at launch. It launched with Pilot wings steel diver and nintendogs+cats Imagine if they had Mario kart 7 or Mario 3d land at launch (those two games came out a month a part) Plus they had Legend of zelda OoT 3d and Star fox 64 3d in the middle of the year. The 3ds would have done a lot better launching with 2 of the 3 Mario kart, Mario 3d land and zelda OoT and the 3rd one being the holiday title.

[@Amy-J]

Two more things I think should also be discussed; - If it’s a new Switch, what are the controls gonna be like! Will the joycons have a better and more ergonomic grip? Will the analog sticks be positioned like other controllers and therefore way more viable for third/first person games? Will joycon drift be fixed?! - If it’s a new Switch, how will it upscale to a bigger screen! 720p on a handheld is honestly fine - small screens are hardly getting sharper - but 4K is firmly here. So what tech to reach 4K? Would it be DLSS 3? FSR 3? What kind of performance could devs squeeze out of it as a result?

[@moritakaishida7963]

The type of games Nintendo publish make it so that raw power isn't necessary, but I do hope it's at least significantly more powerful than the switch, if for any reason, at least so that the developers aren't struggling with development the way that they currently are for the system

[@Buglin_Burger7878]

The devs don't need to push things as far as they are. Wind Waker on the Gamecube shows how important a visual style and looking nice can do when working with less. We are pushing graphics too high on all our systems not actually embracing healthy styles.

[@raiguard]

Zelda and Xenoblade both struggle hard on my launch day switch. I am very much looking forward to more power.

[@2intheampm512]

The Switch-Next is a whole lot more powerful. Uplift over current Switch: 9x CPU performance, 10x GPU performance in handheld and 7x docked to docked, 4x memory bandwidth, 3x memory capacity. I can list the full specs of the SoC if you'd like but it is rather technical, so I hope the performance uplift summary is sufficient :)

[@paulmatts2015]

Wish list 1: Glasses free 3D 2: Dual IR Joy cons w/ UHD Rumble No Drift Sticks Analogue Triggers Speakers/Mic and Mii/Data storage. 3: Undocked Wii U style dual screen gameplay. 4: 'Super' Docked 4k Ps4 level Graphics 5: Backwards Compatibility.

[@JoeyHart612]

Really hope Nintendo will have a way to transfer digital games from the switch to this next console

[@animeartist888]

I doubt it will happen, but I hope it will. They're all linked to my Nintendo account, which I assume I'll be able to login to on the new console, so... please, Nintendo? If it's not gonna happen, I'm definitely skipping the new console for several years. The vast majority of my game library is digital. Fat lot of good it does me to have the new one backwards compatible when my library of 50 games becomes literally 3 playable ones.

[@VOAN]

@@animeartist888 It'll likely happen, even the Wii stuff could be transfer to the Wii U and DS could be transfer to the 3DS. The Switch should be fine. The only reason the Wii U stuff doesn't transfer to the Switch is because nobody bought a Wii U so it's not worth doing it.

[@zodayn]

10:08 This comment was about playing backwards compatible games instead of next gen ones. I don't think whoever said this didn't think of people who buy re-released games they already had but for the newer system. The group who does that is such a small minority that publishers probably don't care. What I think they meant is new next gen games needing to compete against the catalogue of games people already own or popular Switch titles that are probably cheaper and so make people less eager to buy new next gen titles. The release window of a console is a golden opportunity to sell a game people otherwise might not buy. Now they will buy it since the options are just so limmited. Imagine you publish a platformer with next gen graphics, something akin to Kena: Bridge of Spirits. Maybe the mechanics aren't that exciting. But it's the hot new thing that looks cool on the improved hardware. That would sell like crazy in the early release of the new console when people are hyped about what the machine is capable off. But not so much if you could also play Mario Odyssey or Kirby and the Forgotten World on the same console. Then you need to compete against a very safe bet for a first game to play on the new console.

[@zodayn]

It would be benefitial to both Nintendo and 3rd party publishers if the next gen consolse wasn't backwards compatible. Since Nintendo would be able to sell its biggest hits again for full price to new customers or even for the next gen upgrade to existing consumers. While 3rd party publishers would feel safe that they don't have to compete against the first party heavy hitters. For Nintendo the choice to make is mostly about early wins vs late wins. A backwards compatible console is more attractive since a large group already has tons of games they can play on it. This makes it sell better at launch but worse later on. Whereas no backwards compatibility makes it less attractive at launch but could result in better profits for rereleased games. Which makes me think that if Nintendo is confident in this console's selling power they would leave backwards compatibility out, but if they think it's not as big a sales monster they might have to include it. And by the sounds of it the thing is just a more powerful Switch. And a more powerful console that is basically just another Switch but with hardly any games on it doesn't sound like it would sell that amazingly well. So my bet in on it being backwards compatible. Which is good for most every gamer. I'd love to see TotK run in say 1440p or whatever. But there's downsides too. It also means MK8 is still playable which would mean there isn't gonna be an MK9 for even longer still.

[@devindykstra]

Like you said, these are pretty safe predictions. What I'm looking for is someone who is predicting what the stupid gimmick will be. You know they're gonna have one, so what's it gonna be this time?

[@AshenSpark]

How about this, they bring back the wii u gimmick and let you use your switch while streaming it to the dock so you can have a tablet like it's a wii u lmao

[@devindykstra]

@@AshenSpark I doubt they'd be that bold lol

[@magicfishhobo381]

Well since they kinda dipped their toes into VR with the labo set my theory is that they'll release an upgraded switch with an optional VR mode, and most likely have Metroid Prime 4 be their big launch title since that's the game that'd work best in VR.

[@AshenSpark]

@@devindykstra Oh, no doubt, I thought it'd be funny though lmao

[@devindykstra]

@@magicfishhobo381 that would be amazing! Nintendo + Modern VR Technology would be a match made in heaven!

[@Big_Man_W]

I can’t believe I’ve been watching Arlo for over 7 or 8 years

[@ep1k-226]

I think a lot of people will buy a switch 2 in order to play their old switch games with better performance so not having any backwards compatibility would be insane.

[@otozinclus3593]

The Switch 2 won't be able to play Switch 1 Games with better performance, that's only something a port can do. The Switch 2 will likely solve backwards compatibility by adding 3 or 4 ARM Cortex 57 Cores (the one the Switch 1 used) and play Switch games on these, just like they just added the GBA CPU to the DS and added the DS CPU to the 3DS. Switch 1 Games are not programmed to use Switch 2 Hardware, they don't even try to access it. Games made for Switch 1 will perform the same on Switch 2. DS games which lag also lag on the 3DS for the same reason

[@DangHippiesPlease]

I hope this convinces you to bring back “the Nintendo news rap up” videos. I really liked those

[@TwilightWolf032]

Nintendo is rumored to be using 3DNAND on the Switch 2 as opposed to the 2DNAND used in Switch cartridges. Despite its name and being newer and more advanced technology, 3DNAND is actually cheaper to produce and more effective in terms of storage sizes and read/write transfers. It seems like a nobrainer to me that Switch 2 cartridges will be more cost-benefit efficient, have bigger storage sizes and keep costs low (or prevent increases, at least).

[@2intheampm512]

Yep you're correct, it's most likely 3DNAND manufactured by Macronix (which is the current supplier of 2D NAND for Nintendo). Cartridge capacity will go up to 128GB

[@axelindigovt]

Honestly, backwards compatibility is the highest deciding factor whether or not I buy the next system day 1. I’ve got a bit of a backlog so I’m not in any rush to buy it if it doesn’t have that feature. Bonus points if they actually have free updates for older games to make them run better (looking at you Pokémon scarlet and violet).

[@dante19890]

why would u buy a nextgen console just to play the old switich games that u can play now on ur current switch. The reason why anyone would buy a new console is cuz a new game release only for that console. A new Mario game only for the switch 2 would really sell the new system.

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

Physical discs are the best bet. But that would mean a disc drive in the dock. Maybe that can be the DRM base and you need to be docked every once in a while? ...yeah that's too complex for Nintendo. Carts are easier.

[@dragoon1090]

Discs are going away. Just accept it. Carts are what Nintendo is sticking with.

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

@@dragoon1090 Bro, I'm not even a console gamer haha. I've been all digital for almost ten years as a PC gamer exclusively. My issue is that the carts are very expensive if you want to have any reasonable capacity, especially for a modern game. You'd have to download a lot anyway.

[@Simalacrum]

I’d really like to see a Switch 2 console be named the “Super Switch”, evoking the old SNES format. It would add the nostalgia element for old school fans, sound more fun than a numerical sequel, and it rolls right off the tongue! Everyone could shortern the name to “SS” aaaaaand never mind this is a terrible idea ignore me.

[@emperorender8201]

I honestly think that's a banger idea

[@ironicdivinemandatestan4262]

They could do SNS as an acronym

[@-Celeste_]

Hopefully the next console is good, it sounds good so far besides the rumor of going back to the lcd screen, which I understand but just love the oled screen so much. 😭

[@8.8.8.9]

When I saw the title the thumbnail hadn't loaded yet and I could have bet money Arlo would be holding a magnifying glass. ... he wasn't😢

[@yeetbomb2015]

Could the next gen gimmick be a VR dock

[@Yusei255]

Won't be

[@leeartlee915]

I’m looking forward to having Nintendo announce what this new console can do if only because I’m so sick of reading/hearing (in the whiniest voice you can imagine) “If it doesn’t have backwards compatibility, I am OUT” Just shoot me and get it over with. Hope the next console does something more than play old games.

[@nicolausaguillon3659]

Watch out guys I'm calling it right now, this is the new switch killer.

[@2intheampm512]

Hey Arlo, the Switch Pro wasnt actually cancelled or planned. Insiders passed along info that a new Nvidia Tegra chip was in production, which coincided very well with production of a new dock and model (the OLED dock and SWOLED). The dock specs in particular led to analysts believing that this was a full Switch Pro and not a minor hardware revision as the OLED dock has upgraded display out to support 4K 60 signal output to 4K TVs. So the reporters put all this info together, and not unreasonably speculated that the SWOLED was actually a Switch Pro with an upgraded Tegra chip. It was a case of slightly poor interpretation of the available data than an actual cancellation of the Switch Pro

[@shanepankhurst644]

I'm sure the next nintendo console will be backwards compatible because people will be buying the original switch games for years to come so nintendo will still be making a lot of cash no need to worry about the next nintendo console nintendo said we will listen to what the people want I guarantee we will not be disappointed great vid keep up the good work

[@itsBASILLICUS]

i sure hope nintendo never goes full digital, not untiul consumer rights laws are more clear and consumer friendly when it comes to owning digital content.

[@Aesc_the_voyager]

I hope that they fix joycon drift it’s been here for long enough

[@ahmedhasan4966]

Indeed I hope the "switch 2" fixes joy con drift.

[@skibot9974]

4:25 I’ve actually seen quite a few people who would prefer a pure console to get more power or even return to a dedicated console and handheld system

[@patrickholt8782]

Did we not learn our lesson on rumors since the “grinch leak”?

[@rogercameron6912]

Sakurai sure is continuing his exact SSBU marketing setup. MP4 would show off the Switch 2 nicely. Nintendo polled how people used their Switch. New building. Miyamoto telling devs to do 4K. Something's brewing.

[@connorj1165]

Okay so I'm pretty sure the new Nintendo Console will just be like the DS and the 3DS well I don't know if that new console will be much better then the DS and 3DS but I'm okay with it I just don't know what games Nintendo will put in that new console but I'm okay with it and also we love you too Arlo keep making the videos that you make and also we need to talk about the Nintendo Direct for next month because if we're gonna have remastered versions of Triple Deluxe and Planet Robobot and also TomoDachi Life coming to Switch with the new Mii Maker Editor because people just make so many good Miis with that Mii Maker Editor it just looks so cool

[@narm_greyrunner]

Arlo: you can't always have the most money grabbing things possible. EA: hold my beer.

[@LlamaLogic]

Can't wait for them to release the Nintendo Switch Booster Course Pass! A paid DLC that adds a ton of features to the Nintendo Switch that's released over the span of a year!

[@positivetakes5592]

Nintendo can't expect people to restart their library from scratch? Have you met Nintendo?

[@rolen1684]

This next gen switch or whatever it will be has had so many rumors for like 3 years. It’s basically just everyone realizing how underpowered the switch is.

[@laeviga-sunstrider]

@3:51 If all this is true, then it means that production for the new console is probably already underway and they'll begin accumulating at the beginning of next year. They probably have a day-1/week-1 number of units sold number that they want to hit and so they'll be doing everything they can to ensure they have at least that much in supply by Q4 2024.

[@Syntox]

Backwards compatibility is absolutely a must: I want to imagine Nintendo will not want to risk the violent public backlash omitting it

[@willwunsche6940]

I think the Switch 2 will have digital patches for backwards compatibility for large games. I doubt native backwards compatibility support though for everything