Let's Take A LORE TOUR of ANTORUS, the BURNING THRONE!

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@fabianjimenez4482 11 ай бұрын

Man, getting one of your videos as a recommendation was the best thing that happened to me, I love lore videos and yours are really fun and interesting, thanks for your time making them!

@H25Invicta 11 ай бұрын

Hey Pyro, stoked to find you covering WoW lore again. Anyway, you mention Sargeras hounds in the beginning, curious about them being of Fire and Shadow. The hounds draw a parallel to Gorshalach, which is RPG lore but fun to consider. Gorshalach was Sargeras' sentient sword which split in two when he "turned evil." One half, Taeshalach (Flame Rend), is thereafter wielded by Aggramar. The other half, Gorribal (Dark Seether), is wielded by Sargeras. Flame Rend & Dark Seether, Fire and Shadow, the most powerful weapon in the universe when combined. That's just a thought I had when considering these hounds. There's certainly some more significance to this Fire/Shadow dynamic. Anyway, great videos and thank you for the entertainment.

@richard-4655 11 ай бұрын

At the 25:00 mark, when you start talking about that section of Antorus being a titan facility, I couldn't help but notice how similar it is, in style and vibe, to the Halls of Valor.

@mastermage23 11 ай бұрын

The bit about Time and Space being entwined at 31:10 and you talking about why they are split reminds me of something: If Space and Time are linked, then what would Time do if it relates to a Non-Euclidean Space? Think about BENDING space and time, then things don't really run that "parallel" anymore and can divert from another. What is the most common thing people imagine when talking about bent time and space? A Black Hole...or, a bit of "Void", perhaps? Also an addendum: You said "Blood" was flowing out with these rivers of red-yellow-ish energy, no? Well, you know what else has this dirty yellow to it? Ichor. What is Ichor classically called? "The Blood of the Gods".

@D2Mephisto 11 ай бұрын

antorus best raid of all time imo! I raided that beeotch on Mythic and loved every time I stepped in there

@electricmayhem8147 11 ай бұрын

yes! one of my favorite raids too!

@jonu5505 11 ай бұрын

Still think Ulduar is the pinnacle of raiding, but Antorus is up there.

@O00InKs000 11 ай бұрын

I'm so worried for Illidan. I'm worried that when the Titans return, with Illidan in tow, that Illidan won't be himself. What if the Titans set their eyes upon Illidan & bound him to their will, as they did with Sargeras. Thusly fulfilling his so-called destiny as a " a champion of the Light".

@Vezri 11 ай бұрын

It's interesting how Argus' abilities like Cone of Death look almost identical to the In-Between in the Shadowlands. Maybe there is some connection between Argus and the Devourers?

@brybeyblade4163 11 ай бұрын

I don't really comment a lot, but want to say that I really appreciate these videos. Love watching it before bed haha

@Bassic8 11 ай бұрын

I just redid ulduar and the amount of hints in their with hindsight is unreal

@fizzlepop5318 9 ай бұрын

A silly observation. 2:30, on the topic of Fire and Shadow making up Fel. In that moment, there is a shadow enemy and a fire enemy that you killed. One is Blue, and the other is Yellow. Which two colors make up Green (Fel)? Blue, and Yellow.

@BlargianSnaggle 11 ай бұрын

I did chuckle when you were killing the Fanatical Pyromancer mobs

@alexgaeckle1540 11 ай бұрын

oh my god, you doing the voices..

@dirthamen5323 11 ай бұрын

Your old video about Elunaria and how it's Elune's moon we see from Elunaria was the very first video I saw from you. I'm glad you're back to it again, and I'm very happy it's starting to look like you were right back then. Impressive.

@nERVEcenter117 11 ай бұрын

Yo Pyro. Been watching your videos for a bit. Haven't seen your ultimate theories yet, but I think the titans are trying to literally strip reality of free will. Free will and an uncertain future are not just the antithesis of order, but they stem from Azeroth's raw power of creation. So she's imprisoned and sleeping, while they screw with and order everything that mechanically ties into free will. For example, don't need the Shadowland's judgment if everything is predestined. Justice, mercy, life, none of this is necessary if everything is clockwork.

@Pyromancer 11 ай бұрын

I agree!

@OllieHaux 11 ай бұрын

@pyro! dude! It was a big surprise seeing your videos again! I've always loved to play WoW only to visit historical places and check out the story. I don't care about anything else in this game. And you always make it easier for us mortals to make the connections and understand the story. You make them even more fascinating (except your voice impressions... LOL... I'm kidding, I love them!)

@cybernurgle6413 11 ай бұрын

One of the plot threads I would like to see (maybe a future saga?) Is how the demons of the Twisting Nether have gotten on without the Legion. Who filled the power vacuum? How has the Legion's collapse affected the other unaligned demon worlds?

@hobosnake1 11 ай бұрын

It's not my own idea, but I like the theory that Denathrius is currently wrangling the legion and taking over.

@hempracer 11 ай бұрын

Blizzard needs a MF dedicated team to fix all of the bugs in WoW, some been broken since Vanilla. Or you WILL lose the people you have brought back into the game. It is ridiculous that each of us that have been playing since Vanilla, roughly 4K each into WoW. Blizzards greed WILL ruin their game if they don't fix their shit. Blizzard learn to spend your profits back into the game instead of more yahets for your excutives.

@Guidofaux 11 ай бұрын

Dang man your Magni and Velen impressions are on point, but you Illidan is uncanny! Got me shook for a second there.

@altervaas 11 ай бұрын

Another interesting image in my minds eye while you were asking 'Does this look like a prison?' was the scene where Sauron is standing over the chasm of Mount Doom after he puts on his ring for the first time

@catterin7815 11 ай бұрын

20:20 cool idea about Eonar and Dreanor only problem is that Dreanor wasn't called Dreanor until the Draenei ( Exiled Ones) crash landed there and started to call it Dreanor (Exile's Refuge). I don't think the native orcs called it anything in particular but the ogres called it Dawgar (the known earth) and the arakkoa called it Rakshar (the Sunstone)

@robertdonohue3710 11 ай бұрын

when @pyromancer died showing us the sky box on the moon. Did anyone notice the dragon flying away at 13:26? Why is there a dragon there? What kind of dragon is it? i had to play it back at .25 playback speed. So many questions this place brings up.

@wretchedabyss1394 11 ай бұрын

Is it possible that the star map in the Tomb of Sargaras is older than the Star map in Antoras the Burning Throne? I mean, in the sense that no one is updating the star map in ToS, long dead Night Elves rest there. Seeing as the Shadowlands has 2 rings in ToS but 3 rings in ABT.

@maniacmel6771 11 ай бұрын

18:47 the whole structure looks like zereth mortis got touched by ghanir to me

@c-eagle 11 ай бұрын

One thing I learned from this video: if you ever develop a game and need 20 different voice actors, you should ask Pyro to do all of them. :) Also, very interesting lore. Thank you!

@haas2225 10 ай бұрын

It's interesting that when Eonar uses Life magic to counteract Argus's Death magic, the residual energy that is left is formulated into Void looking Shadowfiends ( 45:59 ) . I wonder if 'Void' could be just that; an energy that is formed when Life magic is used to do something 'unnatural' in terms of the balance of the cosmos's magical elements, is enacted. A magical abomination. Just spitballing!

@baro6447 11 ай бұрын

i love pyro's eonar impression lmao. good vid :D

@c0ded56 11 ай бұрын

It’s called Draenor because it has Dr. Eonar inside it. She’s a titan doctor

@Vikrampic123 11 ай бұрын

Thinking outside the box here what if Eonar is similar to Apollo and has a Male form called Draenor

@c0ded56 11 ай бұрын

@@Vikrampic123 Are you saying Doctor Eonar isn’t outside the box?? Because she just pulled a 16 hour shift in the ER saving grandmothers and she doesn’t need your harassment (This is a dumb joke idk why I’m here.)

@FreedumbHS 11 ай бұрын

note that the name Draenor (meaning Refuge of Exiles) comes from the Draenei's language, which is derived from Eredun, a demonic language. So I'm not sure about the Eonar/Draenor connection

@stephaniec3759 11 ай бұрын

Antoran Champions according to Wowpedia are Doommaidens or winged FEMALE EREDAR. They were first encountered on Argus after the forces from Azeroth invaded the Legion's homeworld following the death of Kil'jaeden. They were also seen in the invasion points and in the Arcatraz. The only known male eredar to have wings is Kil'jaeden. The Eredar are magic-wielders from Antorus. They were bathed in fel magic by Sargeras.

@Terrados1337 11 ай бұрын

Question about the map at Antoran Highcommand and what Pyro said about it. The other map was located in Tomb of Sargeras, right? I think it is possible, if not likely, that the demons under Kiljaedan's command took that map and send it to Highcommand. I'd make sense for an invading army. If that was the case, what event happened in the Shadowlands during that time that cause them to add the rings?

@T.R.75 11 ай бұрын

loving these lore videos. very interesting.

@jare3959 11 ай бұрын

I hope we get a confirmation of the distinction between Felsworn and Antoran demons in Chronicle 4 since its MoP to Shadowlands. I really like the idea that Antoran are closer to 'devils'. Especially since Sargeras a being of Order, and Devils are more controlled.

@nERVEcenter117 11 ай бұрын

Wait a minute. Is it already theorized that Sargeras "transformed" all the demon races? If he's manufacturing fel from Argus blood, fire, and shadow, then he must be the originator of demons! All of them would have been mortal races, to whom he offered fel ascension: A chaotic boon that grants incredible power and eternal resurrection via Sargeras' machinery, which ensures an endless army to fight Light and Void! It's not a pretty transformation, but it works.

@Sonstbenannt 11 ай бұрын

Ive never saw the beauty 5:11. And temple of anquish could be anima.The name even says where it comes from so for me its self explanatory.

@shelbyrose4535 10 ай бұрын

If Argus is equivalent to Azeroth and we killed him without realizing his significance....that's not a good feeling plot twist.

@SinisterMitchal 11 ай бұрын

I have a very casual interest in the lore, but Argus is literally titled the UNMAKER. That dude is the manifestation of death. I would be casually upset if he didn't use death magic.

@Thromash 11 ай бұрын

I went to do this on Mythic last night with the Trading Post Sargeras sword equipped on the slight chance maybe there was a secret interaction added. Just can't make it past Eonar with my slow DK lol. I know it's possible but bruh so tight. Also noticed the area she is in. Has dragons? Do we know where she is & why it has dragons? Also also, as a result I didn't find any interactions to that point though I was more wondering if Argus or the Titans might have one but didn't get that far lol

@Knownasnemoo 11 ай бұрын

In regards to the 'what makes fel' thing, what if that is the destinction between fel and shadowflame? that fire + shadow = fel / and fire + void = shadowflame. Unless void and shadow really is the same thing, even though you recently mentioned that it sure looks like there is a destinction. I'm just thinking about how warlocks can do the green fire, which to me sure looks like fel.. if it is cannonicly correct that warlocks can wield fel. They already have the ability to make fire and shadow. But if what mentioned above is true that means that warlocks can wield fire, shadow and void magics. given there really is a destinction between shadow and void. That or the green fire quest for locks is just for player looks and nothing else. Or it could be that fire and shadow/void are able to create different types of hybrid magics such as shadowflame and fel using specific amounts of each. Although i feel like shadowflame and fel has very different properties. Whats your thoughts?

@PsiChoCybia 10 ай бұрын

I haven't played since early Warlords, but the fact that you're back and the World Soul Saga looks like 'THE THING', I'm actually really excited again! People thought Blizzard was just pissing about for the past 14 years or so.

@deathwrow9652 11 ай бұрын

Looking at the dirty yellow liquid, I wonder if he was attempting to create "Azerite" or testing the properties of it and winding up with fel. I think Sargie was just trying to figure out how Argus interacted with titan blood, creating a powerful fel energy. But what if Argus interacted with Azeroth's blood? Would it be the same? I think him stabbing the world was a hail mary. He wasnt sure exactly what it would produce, but knew it would make something powerful.

@Dribbledribbles 11 ай бұрын

No the thing over his head looked like small version of the portal zuval opened to get to zeroth mortis

@xWolfReign21x 11 ай бұрын

@Pyromancer Im sure you may have already seen it but after I watched your old video on Elune I went out and was exploring. In your Elune video you pointed out the discoloration thats happening on the moon and suggested it may be where she has cleansed corruption and Im def with that. Im looking to help support this by telling you about the NPC you fight in the Tomb named Lilyth the Silent..I previously had no idea about anything with this raid or lore of NPCS so im fighting her and I start getting irritated cause this pinkish/purple area keeps silencing me and its like following me around everywhere i run. So I see what the debuff is and its called Desolation of the Moon. Its casted by Lilyth and the spell description for the ability is " casts an astral zone that silences and does shadow damage over time." The color of this silence/damage zone immediately reminded me of the areas on Elune that are different colors, like could this be whats possibly happening with her?? Is something of shadow hurting her and trying to silence her power?

@Thromash 11 ай бұрын

Isn't Maldraxxus built on a gigantic skeleton that we never got an explanation for? Or did we?

@ChinnuWoW 11 ай бұрын

I always wondered what that’s supposed to be.

@reptilizer 11 ай бұрын

If you're referring to the gray quality trash item that sold for gold that mentioned "the Maldraxxus" I'm pretty sure this was confirmed to be an error on Blizzards end. Specifically the "the" part.

@ChinnuWoW 11 ай бұрын

@@reptilizer No. The giant skeleton structure. You can't miss it.

@floreaciprian9742 11 ай бұрын

Pyro's voice acting is always top tier and cracks me up

@floreaciprian9742 11 ай бұрын

I love how much Pyro hates on Eonar. Its like im watching Vegeta talking smack about Frieza lmao

@fathelos 11 ай бұрын

"I like the "fuck" with the echo" hahahahahaha I nearly spilled my food LMAO. That comment in the stream was hilarious. How do you switch your voice AI so fast? Is this some app or something? It's really cool!

@elliotbottel2674 11 ай бұрын

Need to use far sight and a DH to use spectral vision to see if it differs in colors. Some entities sacrifice there eyes to see true ina way.

@elliotbottel2674 11 ай бұрын

That Paladin shield could also see demons.

@VonThalberg 6 ай бұрын

I just noticed something regarding Aman'thul's physical appearance... I just noticed he has pointy ears... do the other Titans have this feature as well? It seems like he is the only one with it.

@ShadeOnTheUtube Ай бұрын

Hey Pyro, I don't think that is 3 rings, I think the stationary rings represent the halos of the veil that hides those celestial objects. It just visually separates them from the visible objects.

@fomod_ 4 ай бұрын

I know I'm months late, but tyrhold is also known as "Uldorus". Could it be the same type of facility as Antorus?

@LarsIsReal 11 ай бұрын

Here's what I think: Fel is a waste product, like steam from boiling water or smoke from fire. Any biome or cosmic force can be destabilized or corrupted with chaos. The stronger the chaos, the more 'fel' is created, or the stronger the soul of the corrupted individual is on fire. Burning souls creates 'fel'. The Legion uses soul machines.

@purple7934 11 ай бұрын

Big enjoyer of this sort of stuff, keep it rollin

@fowlen0488 11 ай бұрын

that's caseoh doing the hula hoop

@Stepan_Galle 11 ай бұрын

Well if they are really planet like, realms like SL and ED, so it could mean that Legion could reach them with their ships wouldn't it?

@tylermcnally8232 11 ай бұрын

This is good content.

@endofexistence2149 11 ай бұрын

I always found this odd and not sure if you actually noticed it pyro. But when magni catches up to you before you go do the eonar encounter he says champion i heard a familiar voice calling me. As far as i know the only voice magni hears is azeroth not eonar...or maybe its been her the entire time and the king of diamonds has been made a pawn...

@darthgoku3284 11 ай бұрын

why do you think at the end of the Gul'dan fight in nighthold on mythic why does he go from fel to a fire form can you explain that?

@mrchucklesssss 11 ай бұрын

So Fel is shadow and fire, and Shadowflame is fire and..void? Makes sense if you don’t think about it I guess…I appreciate all your videos, have a grand day!

@motyfokol5392 6 ай бұрын

why are the impression of magni and eonar so on point XD p.s. i swear to god if it turns out that sargeras infused azeroth with argus I'M GONNA LOSE MY FUCKING MIND.

@karlrassmann4604 11 ай бұрын

So if the Shadow lands is a celestial body around Azeroth, does that mean that the Shadowlands is NOT the plane of death, but rather an annexed part of it?

@gampie13 11 ай бұрын

The plain of death was shattered by sargeras, and then reordered by titan influence. The shadow lands are way to orderly in a titan fashion

@joshuacrime 6 ай бұрын

I originally thought that shadow + fire = fel energy. There was mention in-game of shadowfel as being a different substance. And only because of the dogs. One blue, one yellow. I think blue + yellow = green in the color chart.

@fredmackinnon7899 11 ай бұрын

So Sargeras is Fire Argus is Shadow, Azeroth is life/light? Fel comes from the combo of Sarg and Argus and Holy Fire from Sarg and Azeroth?

@michaelhpd123 11 ай бұрын

yo why amenthul clothing is like a jig saw puzzle like why is he wearing scraps of clothing instead of titan pantheon armour

@ez6791 11 ай бұрын

Was there a dragon on elunaria?

@Slimjim2147 11 ай бұрын

Hmm interesting, as someone who hasn't really watch Pyro in a bit last I heard he was done with wow. Then I see his wow content in my recommendations. I'd be interested to see how he made the decision to come back since I assume that happened on twitch. Welcome back Pyro

@Pyromancer 11 ай бұрын

There’s entire videos on it on the channel here if you look back

@mattpulliam4494 11 ай бұрын

It's either void shadow and flame or holy shadow and flame. Fel

@mattpulliam4494 11 ай бұрын

Or all four

@Gyohdon 11 ай бұрын

I really hope you do the Secrets of Azeroth chain soon (if you haven't already)

@austinmcmahan6267 11 ай бұрын

I'm glad you're keeping the excitement and curiosity alive for the lore of this game. Only been seeing negativity about wow/dragonflight after 10.2.5 and I'm bummed out with all the whispering in my ear that this is a hopeless franchise. When there is so much potential

@TheCalcit 11 ай бұрын

eonar is first because she wasnt captured and weakend and was just waiting for the others to be freed i think

@GoTankYourself 11 ай бұрын

no mention of the Sha during the Unmaker fight? for shame

@zäätaorkaesport 10 ай бұрын

Red wells are ofc.... ANIMA. HES TAKING THE PRIDE FROM HERE!! FROM YOUR LATEST VIDEO!!! 🤯🤯

@yallahyallah4220 11 ай бұрын

OR the real sun "An'she" is imprisoned within Azeroth by you know who ! The titans (Eonar) replaced An'she with Lo'sho with dramatic consequences for Azeroth's inhabitants, because Lo'sho is light AND life.

@r.hotzenplotz245 11 ай бұрын

You are f#&€'+g right man! Thank you for your insane content. Keep on opening the eyes for what is really to see !

@theootsface 11 ай бұрын

Praise the fel.

@TheOriginalCameron 11 ай бұрын

If Zereth Mortis was in the Shadowlands, would Zeret Vitae be in the Emerald Dream? Elunaria could be Zereth Vitae but, in parallel, wouldn't it be in the dream?