Let's Take A LORE TOUR of OLD ULDAMAN!

[@H25Invicta]

Uldaman really is a mesmerizing place. One of the most exciting places in the old world for sure.

[@fathelos]

A lot of people say that Blizzard didn't plan this far, ,etc, but there was one interview from a few years ago, I am not sure which dev it was, but a story dev was involved and they clearly said "There are still secrets from Vanilla, that nobody has discovered"

[@GustavoNoronha]

Thank you! I never understood how the lore of Uldaman wasn't explored in detail like this, and that dialog is essential!

[@brianp6682]

You should attend blizzcon as "dominated pyromancer" wearing white robes covered in domination runes haha

[@82gamerprincess31]

That would be really funny. 😂

[@fizzlepop5318]

Maybe you mentioned it in the video this one was clipped from. But did you notice that the Altars at the end to open the door, and to awaken Archadeus are triggered with Shadow magic? When you click on it, the mouth on the Altar opens, with Shadow Magic living inside of it. A feature that I think most people overlook. Why is there Shadow Magic inside a Titan facility?

[@fizzlepop5318]

And Archaedas's eyes are that same cold blue that is suspect. He isn't covered in Runes, but the eyes are still sus.

[@ben9441]

Really like this series! The old dungeons were so dope lore wise

[@Boomken76]

sounds like they didnt want flesh beings near AZ core as they would hear her, so they wanted a crew of workers un able to hear AZ voice.

[@sampfrost]

18:41 they could have taken elements and then modified from there like agramar is said to have done with draenor and the origins of the orcs and ogres and all that, they could have modified elementals rather than old god based life forms

[@louistremblay1218]

im really loving these lore tours man !

[@TheWindcrow]

Pyromancer. I recently did a run of Uldir. There is a room I forget which boss, but on either side of the room are wheels, like a locking device. They clearly have domination runes on them. Would you take a look?

[@Garouwerks]

If you watch "Raiders of the Lost Arc" there is a map room in it. A small town-like map, just like this one. Well, this map is based off that part of the movie. As they always do , the creators sneak in pop-culture references. Just a bit of Easter egg pointing out.

[@CookiesOnDowels]

I had this thought that Xala'teth was one such being that had been affected by a "re-origination" as the first attempt to properly remove an Old God may have been through the re-origination processes.

[@GreenblackGBG]

It's crazy actually how big the lore in these old dungeons are.

[@drakozash8153]

Uldaman is what got me interested in WoW lore back in vanila

[@doof497]

So the text of the lorekeeper sounds like: 1. Azeroth is a designated name, she might actually have a different name from beings before the titans and by herself. 2. Titans aren't pro mortals but they aren't against Mortality usually since they create sevants of flesh too (Maybe the Draenei? Them failing their duty to them making Argus fall to Sargeras and thats why Aman'thul knew him and got mad?) 3. Azeroth might have choosen Magni because of his inherit properties to her powers since as a dwarf hes an offshoot of earthen who where created to be able to handle her energies (Or maybe to use him to try and get the other earthen/dwarfes on her side instead of the titans?) - Also these quests should be still available. I did them during Warlords of Draenor, Cataclysm can't have removed them. Maybe you forgot to pick up a quest? Edit: Sadly late with the comment but I hope at least someone reads it and finds it interest/gets something from it.

[@brybeyblade4163]

I live for this content man hahaha

[@minuette1752]

Man Uldaman in vanilla was a hell of a dungeon. I mean most vanilla dungeons were something else compared to future expacs. I miss having to go there for max level enchanting.

[@fredmackinnon7899]

So maybe what they made with biomass was what they used on Draenor? I forget the name, Everbloom or something?

[@banansplitten2k]

You were talking about re-origination. About races being their own thing on Azeroth before the TItans arrived. So, if Dwarven, Humans, Night Elfs and so on are first "older races", and then gets "titan forged", and then "cursed/gifted of flesh". So, what were the Old Gods originally? They were not always a fleshy abominational form?

[@Ari-jd3gz]

As a lover of art history that mural is going to bother me so much , I'm feeling like its not an actual painting BUT uses many of the classical renaissance styles that make it *feel* important and angelic. The second figure is not female and does have a lesser amount of creatures on its side which would indicate its lesser importance then the other. Initially it made me thing of God making Adam in its form and balance , with some other looking around its making me feel a bit more of Venus presenting Cupid to Jupiter (like it depicts the act of giving). But I think the larger image is strikingly close too Jupiter , could represent the titans or a singular one. While the many animals the ox and lamb (possibly a calf) often tend to represent agriculture and freedom , the lamb is a bit strange as its often used to depict kindness or gentleness , while the twins (the kids) could represent duality , chaos and balance etc. Though the other figure is where things get strange , while it could look female I don't think it is , if we look slightly closer there looks to be a sort of tube or something its pulling out of a box. Finally the figure that looks like Jupiter has no beard , as Jupiter and many titans normally are depicted with beards, what catches my eye on the larger figure is the necklace out of all the flowing its very rigid. this is all just fun theory crafting from quick thoughts though , sorry for the essay.

[@tylermcnally8232]

Hindsight killing archaedus was sad.

[@garsto9718]

The Titans' reason for going after Azeroth is SO they can create stuff. Without her power, they can only influence, kill then titan forge.

[@selasiovec8581]

This may be a bit late, but the i think uldaman is a referance to the greek myth of IO the woman Zeus has (yet another) affair with. that fraise looks like zeus trying to pass off IO as just another cow to his wife Hera. (also the vase looks like the depiction of a greek hero cutting off the head of the Medusa with the trogg maybe also refering to the myth) the statues holding up the ceiling could be a referance to Atlas who holds up the sky.

[@turnstanley9737]

YOOO I JUST SAW UR HALLS OF LIGHTNING VIDEO, THERES AN ELF MODEL AND IT LOOKS LIKE SHES HOLDING THE ARTIFACT DRUID WEAPON. THE RESTO ONE IF ANYONE SEES

[@Spacetrucker138]

keepers, makers, beings like Odyn then the titans , I have trouble understating the pecking order, is Odyn a titan?

[@smallpandochka]

No, Odyn is a keeper. Keepers are titan creations

[@Spacetrucker138]

thanks for the help clearing it up a bit titans are top tier and keepers are under them@@smallpandochka

[@thequam64]

that wake up caught me by surprise =)

[@INNIPIE]

If fel is meant to undo titan ordering, why didn't the man'ari return to a broken/krokuul form like the draenei did?

[@reinoldi1097]

if there is troggs ... shouldnt there be also an Mogu equivalent or and human equivalent? or do they dont have a matrix like the dwarfen?

[@Druidcub86]

seeing this after the latest disc quest made my skin crawl ngl

[@NetherCrafterSMC]

I need Archaedas to be awakened and for Chris to voice him again, that would be awesome

[@theootsface]

Praise. The. Fel.

[@BlargianSnaggle]

Never thought I'd be pulling you of all people up on a Lore mistake. The Troggs were made first, the Watchers realised the Troggs were unhinged, so they put them in stasis inside Uldaman. Which is where we find them after the Curse of Flesh

[@BlargianSnaggle]

Then they made the Earthen

[@Garouwerks]

Yes, that is right.

[@AnubisBobert]

He's not making a mistake, as he explains in the video they've retconned this point with Chronicle. The original lore (as presented when this dungeon was current) had the Troggs as a corruption of the Earthen. There's even a Horde quest from Classic in the Barrens where you directly witness the transformation of a dwarf into a trogg. He explains both versions of the lore in the video so I'm confused as to how you thought he was making a mistake.

[@ez6791]

What if they're trying to build a prison for azeroth deep inside the planet

[@banansplitten2k]

perhaps the "Titans" were ordered and dominated by the "creators" themselves? What if The "Titans" were the original generals of "Azeroth"? What if the Titans were also abused and used like all the rest.

[@CelebrinL]

Me: Sees video title. My brain: "Let's take a lore tour of Old Uldah." Also my brain: "Did he mean Old Gridania?" Finally me: "Wait, he’s taking about something I've never heard of." Me: backs away slowly

[@Felblaze]

In before Pendulum of Doom being a massive lore spoiler.

[@gregorshepherd3561]

And to think that this lore was there from Vanilla. And people keep making stupid comments about how it's retconned and only revealed in later xpacs......

[@BottledDelusion]

My only issue with respecting troggs is that they refer to their own kind as troggs which breaks my brain. It’s like saying Human smash! Stonevault Humans fight for your chief! If we had evidence (it may already exist) that troggs has multiple uses in their language then maybe I’d get over it a little but I think it would still bug me a bit

[@felixcwynar4280]

I hope you get paid for writing their lore for them one day. I'm not gonna lie, I would come back to WoW for an XPac you wrote the story for.

[@Sparda11222]

I agree with the theory that the titans imprisoned Azeroth. But at the same time I don't believe the titans are as butt fuck evil as you would love them to be. I don't think Azeroth is a benevolent creator and we might be walking into a grand trap these next expansions. I'm more inclined to believe that when she wakes up everything ENDS (WoW ends). I believe she is inspired by the idiot god Azathoth (HP Lovecraft), the dreamer god, the one that dreams reality ("who made the gods and thereafter rested."). So I can't really blame the titans from wanting to keep her imprisoned/asleep. Their methods are highly immoral. But they are gods. They don't think like mortals and are not bound by morals like some of us. Never forget.. this is a world of war! Among the atrocities of other pieces in this story they are mostly neutral.. kinda.. sorta.. I can't really defend them but I can't really judge them either. On the other hand all these theories might be way too much and the story is as simple and bland as light/order good void/chaos bad.. stop void.. weeeeee. Hope not. Would really love the story to be something akin to your version. Let's hope they don't dumb it down for the sake of attracting a bigger audience (Blizzard likes to do that).

[@casko9626]

Music is far too loud

[@skiz9447]

First

[@KevinArcade87]

You are reading too much into things it's just a Vanilla dungeon. Do wish they held similar Greek/Roman style from Ulduman onwards..