Let's talk about "professional complainers"

[@garbaj]

the game is Postal 2

[@sen8078]

peeing on people simulator 2

[@HateHater2205]

I’d like to complain about this

[@hoax5347]

btw you dont press r to put ur weapon down, you were pulling postal dudes dick out lmao

[@luckygreentiger]

I would like the latest POSTAL game as t hat looks like it has real depth to it, but I haven't picked it up since I don't like scatological humor

[@onieyoh9478]

I loved the Uwe Boll movie.

[@rwsstudios]

Garbaj played our game! We can all die happy.

[@aeolianthecomposer]

Aww :3

[@rdove_]

holy moly

[@capsey_]

wait what, why are developers of an iconic game acting like a gamejolt indie developer who asked a niche youtube let's-player to try out their game lol EDIT: apparently people are reading my comment as being negative, i was just surprised they were acting this adorable

[@aeolianthecomposer]

@@capsey_ Because some games are made by humans, and not by soulless corporations

[@mathdaboi]

This is such a nice comment wow what a down to earth company

[@change9907]

"Swapping to your wooden spoon is faster than reloading."

[@flashpoint5292]

Blame Truth is the best professional complainer because he's stuck to cod for so many years no matter how good or bad and is willing to call out both the devs and publisher on their lies

[@3ericw]

He does go all in with a WWE persona, but honestly what he says is how he feels even if IRL he doesn't want to Suplex the devs into a undestroyable door. He also doesn't play the game he hates, he has other people get gameplay or plays other games while reporting the news

[@ElisTheWorst]

As a professional yapper, i can confirm that literally all of this is true. I make the exact kinds of videos Garbaj is talking about here. I play a game with the idea of making a video on it in mind, and I if I like it, I make a list of things I like about it, and if I don't, I do the opposite. Usually I'm one of those KZbinrs who try and come off as genuine, but often I think that I lose that somewhere along the script writing process. I can confirm that the main reason I make these videos is for the views and watchtime that come along with them, as that's the only thing I've found to work for me on youtube. Id say that most people who make these types of review videos don't actually feel even half as strongly about something as they portray.

[@Vleaso]

Real haters don’t do it for the money. They do it for the love of the game

[@Theworldssmoothestbrain]

*Hate of the game.

[@quantumgoosey1535]

The more you love a game, the more you see its flaws

[@sourlesscream1272]

@@Theworldssmoothestbrain sometimes your biggest haters, are the biggest fans

[@Theworldssmoothestbrain]

@@sourlesscream1272 Indeed.

[@ZarHakkar]

This is more true than most realize

[@jacob-2271]

Garbaj hasnt met a destiny 2 player. All everyone does is complain, and nobody stops playing the game.

[@Theworldssmoothestbrain]

Can confirm, I play Destiny.

[@sourlesscream1272]

same with League of Legends

[@purplfedora800]

Same with War Thunder. Everyone agrees that the developers are horrible, but we keep playing anyway.

[@pain0731]

*cough* War Thunder Community *cough* But im also part of the destiny community so i feel it really.

[@DrCoomerHvH]

"Hey everyone, Blahaj here."

[@nicklesnn]

icant unhear it

[@ImNotGam]

10 / 10.

[@benrboss]

@@nicklesnn though it may work if you try to pronounce the word in English, in Swedish its pronounced like Blow Hoi

[@johanbjorkman1914]

​@@benrbossno it's pronounced bloh hai.

[@weadeatr]

postal mentioned 🎉

[@TraeDaBandyt]

it was funny hearing him bring up Blametruth because that was the first person I thought of when I read the title😂

[@KingKrouch]

I thought about Tectone.

[@cooperlittlehales6268]

1:56 spas-12 to the chest and just walks it off. No biggie

[@koira1]

Thats Postal 2 for you!

[@TheJakeSweede]

Kinda funny that you mention Blametruth. I was about to write about how 12 years ago (or more), there was basically like an epidemic on youtube of specifically COD commentators who CONSTANTLY complained about COD, and at the same time complained about other shooters and how they "wont overtake COD". It eventually evolved into people complaining about everything, their lives, money, etc. I cant say how things are now, but back then I believe most of these professional complainers were genuine. But a lot of them also only uploaded COD content, because that was the only thing that gave them views and money. Sometimes it feels unreal seeing the people that came out of that COD Machinima scene and what they are doing today.

[@badideagenerator2315]

Reminds me of how "professional mourner" was a real job back in victorian england. People you could hire to be sad at a funeral.

[@manashieldmedia]

It still is a job... in America..

[@Capiosus]

do you want me to play a song on the world's smallest violin

[@badideagenerator2315]

@@Capiosus i mean that was pretty much their job :3

[@Capiosus]

@@badideagenerator2315 thanks for explaining my joke, I didn't understand it.

[@badideagenerator2315]

@@Capiosus you're welcome 😊

[@LastActionGamer]

I didn't expect him to be playing Postal 2.

[@kozakalex222222]

Similar arguement can be made for professional youtube/twitch drama channels too. they're only in it for the views because it works.

[@potapotapotapotapotapota]

The first person that came to my mind when you described professional complainer was Blame Truth. So many who play COD actually, like 402Thunder402.

[@hippokrampus2838]

I'm happy to say that I can't think of too many professional complainers on YT. I guess I don't watch enough of that kind of content for the algorithm to throw more at me

[@ScizorCraft]

If anyone wants to be a professional complainer, could you come on over to the VR space? It would help a bunch

[@Linck192]

I've genuinely never encountered a channel like that before. First time I'm hearing about it

[@n00dl3]

Yeah same. I guess it's just a part of KZbin I don't come across.

[@elyrienvalkyr]

It's because it's not a thing. This is just a trash dev bitching about people not just eating up his crap and praising him for it. This video is the explicit reason most games fail. They can't stand to hear people point of their flaws, so they ignore them, and the flaws just compound to never get fixed.

[@sewer9137]

@@elyrienvalkyrpeople respond to outrage more often tho,if like 100 people give u a handshake and out of those 100 a guy slaps you. you def remember that guy more

[@Mintteacup_]

@@elyrienvalkyr Imagine being wrong

[@Dilithium1]

i'm making a game and this will definitely help me sleep at night knowing that the hate is sometimes fabricated. (i promise i'll still listen to feedback lmao)

[@Draslyn]

"lets call a spade a spade" -theCodfather honestly a great person who just wants better for the COD franchise and its community

[@Nafiur13]

I'm a really good professional complainer

[@sourlesscream1272]

DarkViperAU is another one that can turn into a "professional complainer" at times. But you can tell he at least does actually love the game, considering he has around 10,000 hours in the game. He mostly complains about the company side of things and stuff rockstar refuses to fix. But if you don't like that content, he does make sure that's not the only thing he does because he does play the game regularly.

[@theor.6856]

garbaj talks about the racing games video essays tubers for 4 minutes

[@MidKnightXMB]

*cough**cough* Darkside Royalty *cough**cough*

[@notplancha131]

That's such a good term for them

[@ZeFlyingFurry]

Tyler1 moment

[@Marcelo.Franzen]

I see this with almost every content creator, not just in gaming. Always exaggerating things, events, always about the hype. That’s why I would never be a content creator, the pressure to stay relevant can force you to do that kind of thing. The sad thing is that it works, most viewers keep coming back for more nonsense. But when you, as a spectator, start to see these patterns and clickbaits, you get fed up very quickly. It becomes very easy to spot the truly good content creators from the bad ones.

[@RagexPrince683]

Some games *do* deserve to be complained about with legitimate criticism, for instance warthunder, I don't like warthunder but it's a specific genre of game that no one else makes so I made an entire minecraft mod dedicated to replicating specific features I do actually like about it, I don't think you should class people based on specific groups that a primitive way of thinking.

[@PacdemonStudios1]

It can be so easy to get addicted to the feeling of complaining about something and people validating your complaints and encouraging more.

[@SaltSpirits]

this is especially potent with how Destiny 2 content creators have been acting recently

[@crazygoatemonky]

I couldn't remember where I knew this game from until the cat came out. Classic Postal lol

[@chinpokomon_]

bro never played a cbt game like world of tanks: it is truly a love-hate relationship

[@AmyStrikesBack]

This is the entire "Minecraft Alpha was better"/"Minecraft is not Fun anymore" discourse in a nutshell

[@baronyfan]

This is not at all that lol

[@WeyounSix]

I JUST watched a video on Shattered Space where at the end the creator said because the expansion was so bad, it actually burned him out of enjoying being such a complainer all the time so he said he’s pivoting to making positive videos about games too

[@nikolabosnic1603]

When i read the title my first thought was BlameTruth. Honestly enjoying his videos

[@zebusaqua4415]

No one is a bigger professional complainer compared to summit.

[@GEORGEBRITISHMLG]

whats your opinion on godot rn?

[@bexiexz]

yes lets!! jeez! loved this garbaj

[@onieyoh9478]

I would be a professional complainer but no one will pay me for it. 🤣

[@1738Crafting]

We're so good at complaining, hats off to us

[@SpecShadow]

For Path of Exile you can be hyped to the max (trailes and announcements for a new leagues brings me joy in life, no joke - not many, if any, AAA product can do this), but you can still lose you soul and joy when you enter the toxic territory of PoE subreddit. Visit it too much and you can even stop enjoying the game - even if objectively it's in a good state and new league delivered. Years ago it was very pro-PoE subred created by big boss himself (Chris Wilson) but after one of the leagues (Lake of Kalandra) that did so much damage it caused complete 180* turnaround and caused the devs (and any GGG-related people) to escape and avoid it like a plague. It was THAT bad.

[@Bittamin]

Redbar is a professional complainer (watch to see how many people attack this one)

[@GerritTime]

He's gonna take you back to the past

[@ezyybin604]

this reminds me of jetstarfish he complains

[@Shimmering]

I get the point but I hope the nuance that some people actually complain or criticise things in games because thats what they feel strongly about isn't the same Some people are also just addicted and can't quit their game no matter the amount of issues

[@Wubsy96]

Amateur complainer complains about professional complainers.

[@williamspirralafton3143]

Unfortunetly I don't know if blametruth is like that or not

[@skeel_8923]

Postal 2 mentioned let’s go!!!

[@Ivegotsomewater81]

Postal 2 Based

[@konradhenkel5971]

Whenever I get a Garbaj video I'm always pleasantly suprised by the content, it's genuinely just lovely to hear in the background whilst I do other things, I always love his stances on these things and I'm glad the few times I do get reccomended his vidoes they are very nice, hope to get reccomended his game in the future once its done :)

[@HotlineDev]

I have seen enough people complain about a game all the time, for example, let's take BetaSalvation's "review" of the Roblox roguelike "Decaying Winter", in the review, BetaSalvation basically complained about Decaying Winter being inspired by other games, the game's difficulty with absurd lines like "I don't get why sledgehammer scavs are so tough" while if you take ONE look at the sledgehammer scavs in Decaying Winter, you can see they have protective vests that somewhat protect their chests, motorcycle helmets that protect their head and a sledgehammer to do tons of damage, if you don't like a roguelike for it's difficulty, don't play the game, not to mention BetaSalvation put something COMPLETELY unrelated to the game which was making the game's creator, Archeximus look like a.... Y'know, and it wasn't even good proof, it was just screenshots taken out of context

[@doorstoptable]

decaying winter mentioned!!!!!!!!!!

[@suspecm6316]

It's actually funny how must more respect you get when you are up front about playing up your emotions. Pyro is so beloved as well because he is very upfront about making slop and videos about drama, as well as overreact on stream because he uses it to bankroll his main channel videos which he is passionate about (and also those made him a millionaire).

[@sakesaurus]

this sounds like drama and i struggle with quitting drama

[@monopoly2170]

This video spoke to my soul

[@Dervitox]

As a rainbow six siege player that love-hate the game Ive always thinks is funny how the reaction of the community to any change is "Oh no, they nerfed x again" and then continue playing like nothing happen (myselft included). But everytime COD get any change I get a video on my feed about some random youtuber title something like "ACTIVISION IS DONE FOR REAL NOW" and some black and white with some red stats like the company is losing trillions or something

[@MrHellzone]

You can enjoy a game overall but still have many valid criticisms on it. Dead By Daylight is a great example, most of the community moans about it not just content creators but still enjoy the game and still play it.

[@Verchiel_]

I'm not professional per say but i do find myself complaining a lot with most games i play. I like to point out small nitpicks or complain about design choices and certain issues, yet how much i complain about a game doesn't usually determine whether or not i actually like it. There are many things i dislike about elden ring, from optimization issues, to limited controls, not particularly appealing art style, various gameplay design choices etc. but in the end i still enjoyed the game, just that it was no masterpiece. On the opposite end of the spectrum there's games like Skyrim, which despite all the factual design issues and bugs in every aspect of the game, i complain very little about it as i've accepted the issues. Or i mod the issues out.

[@sp0ck1p]

Yamiks from Elite Dangerous

[@Qreamey]

The Helldivers 2 community.

[@SmartPencil96]

Rip old garbaj

[@theyellowarchitect4504]

I wish more players could see this, or understand the point of this video at the very least.

[@arifhossain9751]

AVGN and Angry Joe were pioneers in the professional complainer field for different reasons. AVGN popularized the Rage Character that they portray and Angry Joe basically is the role model for insane outbursts these creators show off for views.

[@Just_a_commenter]

While I'm all about everyone getting their bag, I do tend to draw issue with the professional complainers of the world. Since you mentioned BT, I will admit he can have some witty remarks with the character he plays, but my issue stems from how his extremely reductive points can quickly be taken literally by his audience. As an example, there was a controversy about AI bots apparently flooding Modern Warfare III, and he was citing things as evidence that he (or his character) believed to be bullet-proof evidence of his claims. Players behaving like bots and killcams that purpoertedly showed glitchy AI behaviour. It took me 5 minutes to dig deeper and debunk things because BT was only looking at things from a surface-level. Yes, listening to rant content can be cathartic and is ostensibly content junk food, but it does strike a nerve with how quickly and loudly he'll go about spreading information which can be effortlessly challenged because his approach to sharing information can be so reductive and surface-level. So, as a whole, not a fan of the guy

[@cesiupro123]

Blame Truth was entertaining between CoD WW2 and MW19. Anything after that is either "That's it, I'm done" or "Call of Duty devs want to MURDER YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY in real life" with the occasional "give credit where credit's due" to gain credibility, the character became too exaggerated, it's no longer believable.

[@mcbonkytron8411]

Even if everything here is true. I have a hard time believing that “professional complainers” like BlameTruth do not have a negative impact on the franchises they “complain” about.

[@snoring_doggy789]

Literally every clash Royale channel

[@KX36]

I'm really good at complaining. I could complain about anything but I'm especially good at complaining about my work. I wonder if I could make a career out of doing that.. but then I would have to complain about having to complain about having to complain about having to complain about having to complain about having to complain about having to complain .....

[@AbsolutelyCisDude]

I used to spin around in an endless circle of watching these kind of videos about balance patches and how "the developers are willingly destroying their own game" and complaining myself about those same things. Only when I pulled the plug on this doom spiral I realized that I was hurting myself and my enjoyment of said games. Costructive criticism is important for the industry and the developers. Criticism for the sake of criticism (or worse, for the sake of drama or views) makes even the most polished, most balanced game seem unfun and unplayable.

[@shindig9000]

I think you don't realize that some people are just built different. They aren't lying, they believe what they say whether it makes sense or not.

[@thejack5952]

The content creators I cant stand are the ones who complain about video game studios or companies either producing/developing a buggy game or shady anti consumer business tactics, but will turn around and buy said video games from said studios/companies after talking shit about them. Its the most hypocritical behavior.

[@youravghuman5231]

i thought this was about genshin drama nvm

[@YMilkshake]

I wonder if you've seen the PirateSoftware "stop killing games" video's, would love your opinion on the matter

[@abstract_duck]

idk ... I see it mostly as real intersection across the society ... there is not a single thing all of society would 100% agree on and like ... not unless youre in authoritarian society where everyone is under command and their preferences are dictated. And yes there are things more controversial than others and some ppl are less open ... but unless you see an agenda pattern, Id say its just someone being vocal about their preferences. Not every game can be Disco Elysium where ideologically it caters towards almost every major ideology and that's fine since there is difference between a bad game and game not meant for everyone ... sadly most rating systems are linear and don't take this into account and I feel like that's where the problem lies;

[@RichardLofty]

There's 0 complainers for Baldurs Gate 3. So you're lying. Good games don't have this problem.

[@riufq]

I wanna named one, but i forgot the channel name.

[@NeonNijahn]

💙❤🤍❤💙

[@cocopeanutbread4558]

I mean, sometimes complain channels are great. I enjoyed watching people complain about games like concord and redfall lmao

[@importon]

I disagree. I complain about games because I see how good they could be.

[@whupass]

really gets on my nerves how the cops in the background footage are soaking up bullets like they're nothing. there's a game feature I'd like to complain about..

[@Fefe-vp9yk]

Under the mayo counts?

[@howislife-v5]

He doesn’t even cover new godot updates anymore😢 What happened to when godot 4 releases😭😭😭

[@tayzatz9014]

this game is desert cat girl

[@post_rot]

maybe they complain because most things in life just suck

[@NiviaxD]

I think cinema sins and their clones are prob one of the worst offenders in this kind of genre. It comes off as so pretentious and fabricated, that I can’t help myself to be a little disgusted. And that is really saying something, because I‘m german and complaning about minor things is basically part of my dna. ;-;

[@Erik-pt2yw]

bro the last one is working not for the games only but even for a countries. I've watched so many videos criticizing my country so I began thinking like it is my opinion, but then I went outside and it all disappeared. So the moral is if you feel to complain, go outside.

[@ADR69]

Disagree. Sometimes passionate fans complain about how their beloved franchises are handled or unfair practices are employed.

[@simongranberg74]

Downward thrust is a perfect example of this. Think his channel is pretty dead now tho

[@MetalX34]

i failed to even notice those the whole time. either i forget about them, or the youtube algorithm deemed me unfit as an audience (which would be odd, i like negativity).

[@ADR69]

Lot of hate in this video, everything ok?

[@augustvctjuh8423]

You haven't met enough LoL players. They always complain but never seem to quit

[@MtOwlest]

Is there a reason you stopped uploading shorts?

[@conner9842]

Greatest game of all time

[@Pluto-ek3mh]

Would AVGN (Angry Video Game Nerd) count? I’d recommend his old videos.

[@dominiccasts]

Good question. I was about to mention AVGN and the whole online reviewer space from 2007 to around 2013, but given how much that was a played up character and skit show, I'm not sure it does count. At some point there's a line between "complainer" and "comedy act", and I would say AVGN and the like falls on the "comedy act" side of that.

[@Pluto-ek3mh]

@@dominiccasts I agree. I wasn’t 100% sure because the AVGN is obviously a skit character and the things he complains about or critiques are very understandable. However, there are some moments where I feel like he’s trying to scrape up a few bad things to say about the game (which I only remember happening in his more recent videos).

[@TheSmokinPotato]

its true my highest view video is one with a clickbait tittle of "cs2 is unplayable" even tho it was just a title and the video was just gameplay the tittle with hate got more click

[@algi1]

Why is it that the obnoxious, hateful, angry performances are always "just a character", but when someone is kind and positive, that's always being authentic? I'm pretty sure that at least some of these terrible "characters" aren't just characters.

[@TheRumpletiltskin]

i am good at complaining. it's like i was born to bitch. XD

[@dp055]

Bro do you make Godot tutorials ?

[@JimJK]

Counter Strike 2 and Rainbow Six Siege has this problem

[@theoutsider01]

Same with other products too. Take movies and TV series, can't have anything without some grifter going on for hours on why it's the worst thing ever to happen to humanity, because women or trans or whatever is the topic of the culture wars. The best way to enjoy something for yourself irrespective of the social or political views of the product is to stop listening to these grifters in the first place.