Let's Talk About Sony, Their Shills & If They Really Deserve Support!

[@deceptikhon]

"Get what you can afford to get" not just in TVs but in life, some good advice there. Life gets hard when you over extend and stretch yourself be it wallet, health or heart.

[@AllAboutTKK]

Amen.

[@techsamurai11]

At the end of the day, most people that buy a mid-range of higher TV today will get a TV that would have been a flagship in the past. Even the X90L shocks people at stores next to the S90C and A80L since the OLEDs can't compete in full window brightness and look half as bright on occasion with a few highlights.

[@AllAboutTKK]

This is such an intelligent comment.

[@CarnivoryHODL]

Agree, Sony deserves the price premium for the enthusiast. Their processing is best in class objectively. That being said, each TV has its own unique positives/negatives. No perfect TV. If anything, we should always ask for MORE from TV manufacturers. I’d love to see a mid-tier Sony QD-OLED, for example. Like a A90L.

[@69Dartman]

I bought my Sony Z9K because I have a TCL 65 825 mini led set I bought in 2020 when it was on sale with my tax return. I heard about the Z9K in 2022 and Brian said it was an awesome set and of course mini led and 8k,super bright. I had an Inheritance that was decent so I decided to treat myself to a top end TV and ordered the 75 between cost and size was the best choice for me. I'm still quite happy with it today and the TCL is still here in my bedroom. I never would have considered a Sony before but I finally had enough money to comfortably buy their top end set so I did. They really are good at what they do and you pay the Sony tax but there is a reason. Otherwise go for the best one you can afford and be happy. I was thrilled with the TCL because it was the best looking TV I ever had and the biggest, for 1400 bucks. The Sony was just on a whole other level picture wise, but it was like 3 times the money. The only thing the TCL does better is blooming control, but it still looks good and you couldn't beat the price.

[@exhibitD79]

Subbed! Love your take and sharing your views and contributing to the community

[@AllAboutTKK]

Thank you!

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Samsung and Sony are just amazing imo the best out but you won't see me talking crap to people on what they own. We all like different things get wtf you want sit back and enjoy! Good stuff

[@bherbo3943]

gotta say it's pretty stupid to judge a tv and anoint it as a winner overall, when you are judging the tv with a specific criteria in mind. Tv's aren't made solely to match a reference monitor. What about gaming? Ease of use? sports? multi entertainment? Features? etc? I love the shootouts, i really do but we have to have more nuance when we talk about the shootout results as a community. Brand fanboys are getting exhausting.

[@klaymatic3751]

I don't get your post. You understand that the goal of the king of TV's is to use the objective standard of reference and see what TV gets closest. No one ever said that makes it the best TV for the consumer. It is what it is. TV reviews take all the things you said into consideration. Also, they made it pretty clear that all 3 oleds are absolutely amazing TV's and that the decision for which to buy should include all the things you said.

[@bherbo3943]

@@klaymatic3751 saying a TV is "King of TVs" would Connote that it's objectively better at the all encompassing things that a TV would be used for. Otherwise we should call this test for what it is. The king of TVs that's best at replicating a monitor(a Sony monitor no less). That's the point I'm making. A shootout about the best TV, should be a shootout about the best TV. Pretty simple.

[@craighopkins4496]

I like how it drives lg fanboys nuts

[@bherbo3943]

@@craighopkins4496 you shouldn't tho. That's the problem. We have no stock in any of these companies. We are consumers. We don't get a bonus check when any tv wins a shoutout lmao

[@techsamurai11]

The point you're making is that it's not easy to evaluate TVs nowadays. Look at how many people out there buy Samsung, LG, Hisense, and TCL knowing they are not getting the best TV and just hoping for good value.

[@LARRYfromSONY]

What's up brother! Thanks for the words man. I love watching the growth of your channel and your perspectives. You know you can always hit me up!

[@AllAboutTKK]

@@LARRYfromSONY Max Luv

[@TheCaptainChiII]

Truth , well deserved support since the 80's and 90's till now for sure , they have been consistent with dope products and functionality

[@zr1cvette]

One thing I’ll say that isn’t mentioned enough. That no one talks about. Flagship TVs are more affordable then ever period. TVs 20-25 years ago that were the 95L, G4 and 95D of there time were probably 7-15K. People were paying over a grand for Walmart garbage in 05. Now they complain about Sony pricing. People like cheap crap for some reason now too. Hence why Roku tvs, And Crystal Samsungs are popular lol. It boggles the mind when TVs are one of the very few products in any walk of life that we have gained ground on the last 20-25 years. Why not buy better lol. Especially when people a paid lot more for a lot less.

[@AllAboutTKK]

Only us that have been doing it this long know. I tell people all the time, 65” EF9500, essentially the first flat 4k OLED I paid like $7000 for that tv! Wild.

[@MM-Official]

There's reasons why Sony is so iresistible when it come to TV's but i have to say LG is catching some grounds,i don't like Samsung even the fact they are the best at pricing but i don't trust their reliability

[@ProTechShawn]

Love Sony but the only thing I do not like about their TVs is using Google as their base software. Yes, I know I don't have to use it, but sometimes my A95K does freeze up and I have to remove power to get it back. Never had that issue with any of my LG TVs or any of the older Sony TVs I've had prior to. Still the best quality, color and motion in the game. So, yes, I am about to get an A95L since it does improve the brightness as well as other improvements.

[@rsolsjo]

"Yes let the PlayStation shills hear it!" "Sir he means TVs" "Whoops"

[@jayibakumarra]

I've learned to sit back and let SONY release their version "2.0" . Yeah you'll have to wait and not have their latest product, but after many many years of being a supporter, I know not to jump on their first release. (with a few exceptions like the PSP). But yeah you hit it right on when you said to get your finances in order, cuz this stuff ain't cheap!

[@AllAboutTKK]

Genius.

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

Yo homie😊 that's how I buy my TVS save up for them ahead of time😊

[@techsamurai11]

As I'm discovering on my TV, the largest difference today is in scene selection and the choice of SDR vs HDR. If you buy a G4 and A95L, they will look quite similar. Put either one of them in Standard and the other in calibrated mode and the image difference will be a shock. Now Standard modes are not created equal and while Sony's the best, it can easily be improved by 20-30% as I discovered 3 years ago (I don't know how it translates to new models) and while it's easy to do, you need a reference point otherwise you'll go too warm or cool and both those will affect the image more than any brand or model you can buy. Even a color shift of 7 points from 65 to 72 is more pronounced than the difference between a G4 and A95L.

[@AllAboutTKK]

Facts.

[@paulcox2447]

I'm a tweaker when it comes to tvs. I don't shoot for reference accuracy, but I also don't add effects until it looks like a cartoon. Speaking of cartoon, my mode for anime looks wayyy better than filmmaker on most anime to anyone with working eyes. A friend laughed out loud when he saw how different it was, in a good way. Same with most programming on HDR and SDR with more realistic modes. I have spent time in there tweaking. Real hours. It fixes most "lazy" color grading that occurs in many movies and programs. People who spent 3x as much to watch in filmmaker or a cold 50 mode on a "top of the line" tv aren't having a better experience than me. The time I spent dialing in a subjectively pleasing picture matters. The difference between my C1 and a newer tv is going to get overcome by my settings on most content.

[@techsamurai11]

@@paulcox2447 I only have one mode that I use. The setting I struggled the most with was Live Color on a Sony and I had to leave it at the default setting Medium. I decided that the image is almost always better with it on than without it. The main changes were: Brightness - change up from 7 to 9 Color Temp - switch from Cool to Warm 1 Color - bump by 7 points Ambient Sensor - On

[@Wizecrack22]

Such a good video. To ur point I’m putting away my coins now to get a tv either this fall or early next year. Holding out hope that the A95 will get an upgrade soon, or at least have an 83” made available 🤞 If not I’ll grudgingly bite the bullet n go for the G4 83” :/

[@AllAboutTKK]

Great plans.

[@Stock--Rosso]

Recently I went from a Sony x900e, to a Samsung QN95a and now to a Sony B9 and every TV has had it's strengths + weaknesses, but for help and advice about their products, Sony seems to employ people, who know what they're talking about. That's just personal experience, but for me that's not changed in over 10 years. Great video

[@AllAboutTKK]

Thank you for sharing.

[@jordanavington7844]

Mr tkk my brother one day I been looking forward to getting a G4 65inc next year 😎

[@deanojohnson3733]

Well said my friend that's why in my opinion you are the best at it.

[@AllAboutTKK]

Max Luv

[@ajwtf6539]

What we're seeing is there are no perfect tv and QD-oled is better than MLA no matter how powerful the processing is . I do wonder did lg Philips and Panasonic choose MLA because it was cheaper to manufacture

[@AllAboutTKK]

Big energy!

[@davide4607]

Nope. What we're seeing is that one tiny group of people picked the Sony as their favorite TV, that's it. Nothing more than that. In the German shootout last year, they picked the G3 as the winner over the Sony. One subjective shootout literally means nothing.

[@MadViking82]

In the shootout 2nd day, Out of the box the MLA G4 won over the latest QD-OLED panel. How many people calibrate their TVs? I am a videophile, and I never do, never have, and never will. OOTB performance is what I buy, and what 99.99% people buy.

[@klaymatic3751]

​@@davide4607 it was also a virtual tie prarically speaking. We all win here at the end of the day as TV's get better.

[@craighopkins4496]

It’s driving lg fanboys to get their pantys in a bunch

[@hELLLcs]

I like Sony tv very much. I think if you just want the best picture, best motion and strong tech overall without having to tinker at all on the tv then you go with Sony. If you are willing to tinker a bit and will buy top dog of the brand then I think LG is absolutely amazing. I have both brand, Sony in mini led and LG in OLED. Which tv works as intended 99.9999% of the time? The Sony. Never lose signal, never looked weird, features work. Which tv offers me more feature, more ways to play with the image, feature etc? The LG but there is some weird behavior sometimes. Honestly, i would be willing to part ways with my two tv and get a massive enormous bravia 9!

[@eiksman]

My favorite game in the background

[@BryanRuby]

Sony still provides good customer support which makes it worth it to me to pay the "Sony tax". I had an issue with one of their TVs and posted it on another forum that to my surprise...they addressed.

[@whitecrowuk575]

If Sony was priced better I would most likely go for it. But at double the price of G4 and nearly the same less for s95d - it’s just a no go. Those are prices I can get them for in UK and I’m aware it’s not the same for everyone everywhere- so each case is different.

[@AllAboutTKK]

Well said.

[@gbej1]

Where did you see the Sony double the price of the G4? Quote the website or name the store

[@whitecrowuk575]

@@gbej1 a95l 77 costs £5k, 10% off rrp, whereas on LG i have a company discount 20% plus another 15% Cashback from 3720 price (lg directly) which brings it down to 2500.

[@gbej1]

@@whitecrowuk575 So basically you just quoted a calculation of cost that the average consumer cannot attain and you’re making it seem like you can just walk into a store and find the G4 half the price Sony. The lengths of deception many of you will go to discredit Sony is just flabbergasting. I have certain privileges due to my profession, I don’t then turn round and make it seem that everyone can attain the same. Please stop being disingenuous because you hate Sony, just stop it

[@AllAboutTKK]

@gbej1 this was so well said. LOL

[@ericroberts7380]

I’ve owned 3 Samsung tvs since flat screens started and none of them made it past year 3. I’ve owned 5 Sonys and they are all still working with the oldest being 14 years old now. That’s why I buy Sony and only Sony because You get what you pay for. I was willing to try LG this year but it was either the 77 G4 or the 75 Bravia 9 + bar 9 and i went with the Sony plus soundbar and have no regrets

[@marro2483]

How does a 2023 tv win a 2024 shootout blasphemy! A lot of Sony ponies!

[@buddy305luv9]

Yeah. There are a lot of brand loyalists out there. PPL doesn't like it when the most expensive brand wins, not realizing that's why it's the most expensive brand. If Panasonic sold its top TVs in the US, Samsung or LG might not even be in the top three. Like some say; you have to pay to play.

[@paulcox2447]

Panasonic and Sony are both barely holding on in the TV business

[@zr1cvette]

Samsung and LG cater to the masses more, go for volume. Especially Samsung. Them trying to beat Sony is like wondering why BMW and Mercedes can’t beat a Porsche lol. Then complaining why the Porsche cost more. One brand has a lineage and specializes in one specific thing. It’s like the 911. It’s the best sports car because it’s been refined forever and pushed every iteration. Only reason Samsung and LG are considered relevant now was Sony slept walk in the beginning of the HDTV era. People forget Sony dominated during the Trinitron era they were always considered the top choice. My grandparents owned a tv shop in the 80s and 90s. LG and Samsung I don’t remember ever being a thing period. Not until the mid aughts when HDTV took off.

[@buddy305luv9]

@@zr1cvette Growing up, the majority of homes in my neighborhood were Zenith, Sony, and Phillips. Sony has stood the test of time. Man, I would've loved to hang out in your Grandparents' TV shop.

[@zr1cvette]

@@buddy305luv9 Yep those were the brands they sold and that were in the store along with Magnavox and Sylvania as well. Yeah their store was located at the Jersey Shore the big revenue driver back in that time was rentals. Because people didn’t have TVs in the summer rentals. My grandfather fixed Tube TVs, my dad would repair VCRs. My uncle was big on setting up stands and setting up Audio at the time. He always would have something like Jurassic Park, Apollo 13 going on the surround setup on a big XBR in the store back in the day lol.

[@michaelfoster3441]

Love Panasonic first who are the best in the business when it comes to movie watching in my opinion , And I have the MZ2000 and the A95L , both are superior to Samsung and LG when comes to movies in my opinion.

[@bradmartin2675]

Respectfully, you can speak to any tv manufactures at Best Buy Even if you are dealing with a 3rd party(Good Representative) you’re dealing with the Manufacture direct. Just remember even if they are 3rd they have direct access the main people. Been in this TV game for a while and Sony does their thing. I tell anyone if you are dropping more than $2500 on the Big 3 you’re good no matter what. It’s 2024 and the game has changed.

[@AllAboutTKK]

Amen.

[@hemieed1]

Hi if you have time can you time how long you're a95l take to power up. Thanks darrell

[@AllAboutTKK]

Few seconds. I’m seeing Google Home Screen after about 3 seconds of hitting power.

[@hemieed1]

@AllAboutTKK thank you . I really want to try an A95L, but I'm just not . Great to see you back here . Thanks darrell

[@TIMMICFPV]

Yo . You did su h a good job with your son. I'm on a 1500 nit oled Panasonic i know you can't get this there I'm in the UK. Love your videos watch your videos obsessively you are doing a great job big ups

[@chrisgault87]

I love Panasonic. Just sold my gt60 plasma to my uncle still best all round tv

[@AllAboutTKK]

Thank you.

[@TIMMICFPV]

@chrisgault87 I have a ZT plasma in my bedroom over 10 years old still works great. Love it. I've got the MZ2000 oled in my lounge

[@chrisgault87]

@@TIMMICFPV zt was the beyond reference plasma I remember. I jumped onto Sony oled after Panasonic. Own the a95l now. But looks like I ll be Panasonic next if Sony stops making qd oleds

[@hemieed1]

I've had a bad month with sony. I got an A80L 83" and it had a defective screen and was doing some weird things with my av receiver. So then I tryed a B9 85" and it had the same weird things with my av receiver. I think it's because the sony tvs take so long to power on I didn't time it but it had to have been 8 or 10 seconds. My 6 year old samsung Power's on in 1.5 seconds, and my av receiver power's right up. Darrell

[@AllAboutTKK]

Sorry to hear that, be interested in seeing if a different receiver showed different. About 3 seconds for me to see my screen going through my Denon receiver for both B9 and A95L

[@hemieed1]

@AllAboutTKK I would think about another receiver, but I've got $2500 in it from last fall. It runs my 7.2.6 setup.

[@Javingil]

Is the person playing wow in the backgroun? that’s the dream big ol tv + a mmo.

[@AllAboutTKK]

Yes. LadyHera in the background playing WOW on 77” G2.

[@TheCannonMovement]

Notification squad 🎶👏🏽

[@AllAboutTKK]

Thank you brother.

[@trewright1482]

My Opinion, Value Electronics is well known for giving preferential treatment to Sony Products. No disrespect, they are a Gold Star Sony Distributer and most likely have a great relationship with Sony and their commercial team. That being said, this king of TV's shootout has to be looked out with a grain of salt knowing this. The S95D is a better TV at a better price and the best gaming TV out there.

[@AllAboutTKK]

@@trewright1482 what in your opinion in totality makes S95D better? Legit curious. As an owner of both I don’t agree but would love to read your take.

[@iphone6700]

I just feel it’s a cheap way of making them the winner and not wanting to crown Samsung which I’m okay with lol it’s like saying the best iPhone is the iPhone 15 when the 16 is already out going forward they should stick to the year

[@asole100]

Their Flagship OLED is the one from 2023 though, 2024 TVs should be better than last year's TVs anyways not the other way around.

[@craighopkins4496]

To samsungs credit. They got best value tv s90d

[@scottmarkel392]

It’s not a coincidence that Sony wins the shootout every year. Don’t get me wrong, I like Sony but it would be nice to see another brand win.

[@martinpratley4632]

Lg won 5 years in a row years ago but now there not the best simple

[@heyolorenns]

QM8 has better black levels and doesn’t bloom unlike Bravia 9

[@paulcox2447]

All TV's with dimming zones have bloom.

[@NexGenTek]

To much Quantum Kool-Aid. Bravia 9 has almost 3X the contrast. There’s worse blooming on the TCL but it’s still a good tv.

[@AllAboutTKK]

Hard disagree there.

[@craighopkins4496]

Qm8 didn’t do to good in reviews

[@NipseyHussle1]

TKK are you from the D?

[@AllAboutTKK]

100% grew up both east and west side at the same time.

[@NipseyHussle1]

@@AllAboutTKK I was born and raised in the D, and I am still here. The lower Eastside. Jefferson & Conners area.

[@ladyherapms]

❤

[@mordimeshita1754]

I tell you something SONY need to down from the tree 🌴 do more hardware software for more performance and the best price they can do if they sell list for more expensive TV if you have something else to give you more end god picture and half price more people buy it no one need to save 2 years money from buy something for company is only expensive after half years is not worth 50% from what you pay we don't need to say the company it's okay to do list and sell it in more money expensive we need to do what the American people believe V.L.M VLAUE FOR MONEY Sony only change the number of the TV model to high number no do a lot of change and sale it in double price I don't like it LG in 2 years double the price of the TV two I don't like it 😤

[@TheGhostofMississippi]

I think the hate Sony gets is misplaced. The shootouts a tailor made for Sony to win because they chase accuracy. I personally don’t care about accuracy, I want a picture that looks how I want it to look. Plus it depends on use case. I’m only looking for a 65 inch movie watching tv for my bedroom so I’ll probably get the G4 just because of the price. The A95L isn’t 600 dollars better than the G4 but overall when you factor in the color volume, speakers and processing the A95L is still the best tv of the year.

[@asole100]

But accuracy isn't the only category so you can't really say that's the only reason.

[@craighopkins4496]

Categorys are listed. Did u just pull this out of your but