🔴 Let's Talk About Starship | Countdown to Launch LIVE

[@BrianMosleyUK]

What will you call the actual countdown to legitimate launch when it happens?

[@alexanderstone9463]

Countdown to Launch LIVE 🤯 (NOT CLICKBAIT)

[@spray_cheese]

Yea I like everything about this channel except the bait. Some consistent terminology for the subscribers at least would be nice.

[@ale131296]

"SpaceX launches Starship Flight Test 2". That's literally the title of the launch livestream for the first flight (plus the two because it'll be flight 2)

[@rizkyprima2649]

Integrated Flight Test 2(for real this time) 😉

[@BrianMosleyUK]

@@ale131296 I love the title countdown to launch, it's so exciting and gets me to click every time... Just to be disappointed. I know it's not me, but I feel stupid every time I fall for it... Must look up the definition of CLICKBAIT sometime lol

[@corrinastanley125]

Another fun live stream, thanks #Chaos Crew.

[@scoobedoo5243]

Reuters story today says that the FAA may issue a launch license in October, assuming everything else is also ready. So more than 2 weeks according to the FAA.

[@M_IkeLeBlanc]

Love the live updates! You guys are THE SOURCE for Starship news. 👍

[@richbl1690]

Great photo in front of the world's largest rocket! History in the making. Those people will go down in history.

[@connorwalsh5161]

Brilliant funny show once again guys. Keep up the good work ❤

[@oscarsiegel5165]

SpaceX hasn't filed for modification to flight license yet

[@markhuebner7580]

Ship 26 is the one without fins right? If that's the orbital refueling tanker, that is the key to going to the Moon and to Mars. It doesn't need re-entry, so that's one less thing to go wrong, seems like a low complication option for the next launch.

[@tianshee]

But it would needs to land on Earth for refueling... Is it orbit-to-orbit only? To avoid wasting ∆V moving flaps and heat shield around?

[@johnvdlaar747]

Ship 26: it's place in the starship prototype development could be a simplified test vehicle intended to take it to orbit, ie; and the hierarchy of goals, making it into orbit is one of the primary.

[@ricchamen6304]

What do licenses look like for. Multiple launches and tank launches etc on the same day. Especially if something small doesn’t go according to exsact Nasa license layout plans. I reckon for SpaceX they’re going to have to change their methods of making out these rulings for SpaceX multiple launches on the same day. Just some thoughts for Nasa for the future.

[@smavtmb2196]

Clearly we are waiting on more stairs 😅

[@gseine]

I too believe this is the ship that will succeed in reaching space and returning to land in water in less than three pieces.

[@TimothyLipinski]

Grear Live Stream ! The SpaceX Starship will be the work horse Cargo Rocket and also a Tanker version ! A youtube site said the Starship has to destack to reach the "Safety Pjn" from the ground... Back to the moon to stay and onto Mars and beyond-Ad Astra... T. Lipinski P.S. Does NASA have the Vision, the Vision for Space Exploration (VSE) ?

[@oscarsiegel5165]

So have they moved ship 26 back to production site yet

[@faisalsvideoworld]

hahaha when jack said he doesnt want to be old when starship launches

[@markhuebner7580]

Seventeen thousand five hundred miles an hour is orbital velocity and Mach 25 when you're in the atmosphere!

[@richbl1690]

No, it was damage from foam insulation coming off the main tank that impacted the leading edge of the one of the wings of the obiter. That led to Columbia's demise.

[@BrianMoore-tc2xe]

I'm predicting an 11:20 am central time launch time which would be 4:20 pm UTC by my calculation..

[@oscarsiegel5165]

Maybe raptor 3 engines

[@barometricfunk]

No Lon today?

[@disorganizedorg]

Is there some compelling reason they can't construct the FTS systems to be armable by a person on the ShIp QD arm and the top of the OLM? Does the point of arming need to be near the center of each vehicle?

[@CavingMonkey]

Because placing it at the bottom of the ship would only punch a hole in the oxygen tank and might not instigate the rapid destruction of the ship. The FTS needs to be placed by the common bulkhead, by the methane tank and will (or should) mix the fuel and oxidizer and then ignition.

[@disorganizedorg]

@@CavingMonkey Yes, the charges need to be placed as you describe. But does the control of the arming circuit need to be there too, or can they run a presumably armored cable to a more convenient location?

[@jamescobban857]

@@CavingMonkey "On rockets containing hypergolic propellants, the common bulkhead of the rocket's tanks is ruptured to ensure the toxic propellants mix and combust as much as possible when flight is terminated. On rockets fueled by cryogenic propellants, the tanks are perforated from the side to prevent excessive mixing and combustion of propellants,[22] as an FTS is not allowed to detonate propellants and cause a violent explosion." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_safety Note that, quite obviously, the FTS on IFT1 did NOT cause immediate mixing of the fuel and oxidizer. The whole point of this issue is that the FTS system *did not work*, in that the vehicle continued to operate for over 30 seconds, creating the risk of a range violation. To continue with the wikipedia quotes "In some cases involving liquid-fueled rockets, shutting down the engines[30] is sufficient to ensure flight safety." This kind of termination could obviously be managed from the QDs. I believe that Starship is using a detonation cord. Is it possible that as a measure to ensure that the FTS cannot even theoretically be triggered before launch the blasting cap is not installed until the last moment? "[PETN] is a secondary explosive, meaning it is more difficult to detonate than primary explosives, so dropping or igniting it will typically not cause an explosion (at standard atmospheric pressure it is difficult to ignite and burns vigorously), but is more sensitive to shock and friction than other secondary explosives such as TNT or tetryl." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentaerythritol_tetranitrate

[@CavingMonkey]

@@disorganizedorg Good question and to be honest I don't know.

[@thompsrc]

I vote for September 20.

[@jnlgaines55]

So. I just got here. When’s lift off??

[@Obvsaninternetexpert]

Yes

[@wesleyhale4472]

The age old question handed down to us by our forefathers. wenhop?

[@jnlgaines55]

Any idea?

[@jnlgaines55]

Days. Weeks. ??

[@tg2496]

@@jnlgaines55difficult to say, but I don’t think we’ll see launch within a week. If it happens in September I would be happy

[@treasurerFinleyASC]

Mechazilla logo on the OLM?

[@oscarsiegel5165]

Maybe going to use ship 26 as a test for orbital tanking

[@heirofspinoza813]

This is what thought as well, and while I doubt it, could be a test of propellant fueling with S28 in orbit?

[@disorganizedorg]

Assuming that IFT-2 makes it past staging (very possible) and the booster makes its planned soft landing in the Gulf (much less likely) that suggests that the mishap investigation regarding ship reentry would not preclude issuing a license for IFT-3 if the plan was to launch a tanker prototype into a stable orbit. Inserting such a test in the schedule allows them to work on slowly developing their launch cadence and ironing out bugs in pad turnaround.

[@lennyjames8457]

That would be awesome@@heirofspinoza813

[@pbrooksp]

only need Jack to host!

[@tomassanchez376]

Sense a weird energy between Jack an Alex?

[@izerigau3555]

Could it be love? ❤

[@jamescobban857]

For a government bureaucracy the FAA is operating at lightning speed. I know that when I personally am asked for a decision even if I have already made up my mind I will lean back in my chair, pretend to think about it for a while, and only then give my response.

[@kineticdyslexic3093]

I'm building a submarine, so that I can pop out right on launch and watch downstream

[@oscarsiegel5165]

Reminds me of Ice T

[@richbl1690]

I would love to see S26 land on the moon. A prover mission.

[@johnkernochan2972]

Why is FAA involved in Starship design? The FAA's mission is to regulate the safety of civil aviation and aircraft not to be involved in Rocket design. They are involved in the design of airplanes not rockets. In the aircraft area they are well known for making it so difficult to get regulatory approval for small planes that most small aircraft are designs that predate the implementation of the FAA like 80 years ago. Hardly any new small aircraft have been implemented since then. I don't know how they rationalize involvement in Rocket design. I don' t see them involved in Cape Canaveral! Maybe Musk should go to a more welcoming country like maybe Australia.

[@NASASpaceflight]

The FAA is not involved with Starship design, but they make sure it can be tested safely. The delayed effectiveness of the FTS in the first launched raised major concerns. - Das

[@johnkernochan2972]

ity was tested safely; noone was hurt; the rocket destructed itself safely. Thats all the FAA should be concerned with. Where were they when other rockets failed and exploded?@@NASASpaceflight

[@NASASpaceflight]

They went through the exact same process. This is nothing special for or against SpaceX. That being said, the delayed effectiveness of the flight termination system in the first flight was a very serious issue. Das

[@novembern939nn5]

30:38 SN11 was the worst 😭😭

[@tubonauti6291]

23th September

[@ephen6356]

Anyone else think the "fight bell" is a bit cringey and unprofessional? Just let the hosts talk like they want, instead of having to come up with something to disagree about...

[@stoneymahoney9106]

Saturn, Mars, Jupiter etc are proper nouns, while Earth, Sun and Moon are not

[@grahamcook9289]

Wot, no autogynephile?

[@lucababnik141]

this is a mess without that new guy

[@lucababnik141]

lovingly

[@asssnmacsssk7735]

В Тольятти Азаровский короновирус воскресает, население заболело.

[@oscarsiegel5165]

Sorry Mr. T

[@hartage]

The pig yeeeaahh

[@johnhanson6039]

There is NO reason to unstack the booster and ship when testing the Deluge system. It is designed to work with the ship there

[@Wheatty]

normally the engines would be firing that water back down and converting most of it to steam. With no engines firing you’re blasting water into the raptors for no reason. I think they could still test without a destack and just not run the deluge system at full power

[@ale131296]

Well, no one said they'd destack it for that. We mentioned that they need to remove the rocket if they want to test the cryogenic tank farm not the water deluge system.

[@biovmr]

Prediction: First catch of the booster by Mechazilla. Oct 2024. Starship Catch, Nov 2024. 1st Reflight of booster/starship, Feb 2025.

[@lib8884]

I would be happy with that timeline

[@johnduggan1437]

Don't hold ur breath ? FAA wants starship to jump thru hoops to fly 1st ? Sure looks nice sitting on the pad & hope sea air & salt water doesn't hurt starship engines ?? Oops 😅😅😅