Let's Talk About Storm's New Role on Krakoa in Immortal X-Men #11

In today's video let's talk about Storm's new role on Krakoa in Immortal X-Men #11, and why Emma Frost is right about Storm.
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[@BlerdWithoutFear]

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[@timothyloehrlein9770]

I loved the conversation you and Dave have about the comics!

[@me0on0utube]

Smh..Storm is Every black woman. So much on her shoulders and STILL has to save everybody else

[@cliftonhatchett9647]

Storm used to refer to Colossus as "little brother." This is definitely on par for their relationship.

[@darrius3022]

The thing is Storm knows everyone has agendas and misdeeds, manipulation etc. Even if she doesn't know exactly what it is. The issue is she can't give her all to them because Arrako needs her. And she needs Arrako to work so the mutants there just dont come wipe Krakoan mutants off the map for fun. She expected the Quiet Council to do the bare minimum, maintain. That's all she needed. Arrako is going to war, they still need to go get Red Root to be voice of Arrako as Storm doesn't fully understand the Island like Cipher and Red Root can. Magneto warned her because he too knew the council will destroy themselves particularly Xavier. Even without Sinster influence this was going to happen

[@Infelsinave]

Preach!!! It was gonna happen with or without her.

[@ozymondiasthehub5925]

Okay but you see your flaw in logic yes? She knew. She knew and she did nothing. What Emma said was true. If she can't handle ruling 2 nation's, it's her responsibility to prioritise or plan accordingly. It's not about Storm being a babysitter, it's about being pragmatic. Her attention was divided, else it SoS might have been averted.

[@murk4552]

​@@ozymondiasthehub5925 Sinister literally did his work to ensure everyone failed. What are you talking about. Storm couldn't go against a whole ass council. Lol, think.

[@mprince2342]

@@ozymondiasthehub5925 Nope. Storm did stop Sinister in mutiple timelime loops in Immortal X-men #9. It was never going to help since Sinister could always reset the timeline. The problems started when Sinister was allowed to be on the Council and when Emma decided to reveal the secret about Moira's powers to the Quiet council, which then led to Sinister creating the clones and building the Moira Engine in the first place. This is all on Charles and Emma really. Storm did what she could, but this was beyond her power and foresight.

[@andrewmoore8638]

Storm is ultra-sensitive about abandoning Arrako for Krakoa, because after besting Callisto for leadership of The Morlocks, she left them to their own devices with Callisto serving as her proxy. She felt responsible for the slaughter of The Morlocks during The Mutant Massacre, so it's only natural she doesn't want to repeat that with inhabitants of Arrako. The Arrako inhabitants like The Morlocks are not considered the "elite mutants" like the X-Men and Krakoan citizens. Arrako is her do-over to never overlook another mutant faction.

[@out4meeify]

storm is resilient she will be fine

[@ampocalypsew3883]

Don't forget wakanda

[@ladonte1980]

I can see that

[@luantib]

And the beautiful part of X-Men Red is Storm learning that Arrako isn't second grade citizens in need of protection and guidance. The end of Judgment Day is so powerful because it's put on the paper that she understands her mission is to be part of the broken land instead of an external repairman.

[@MannysMillennialMouth]

This makes perfect sense 👌🏾

[@aweofme]

Yes!!!!!! Been waiting for this!!! Storm carried Sins of SINISTER!!!! Excellent further growth of her and finally she’s getting the Respect on her name she deserves

[@mcfarlane1105]

The way she was nerfed in the movies, no one could believe what had become of her, the writers were like not "Our Storm" getting done dirty after we already took her powers for 10 years. Let's fix this!

[@Baraborn]

They use Storm too much. We get like 1 Black woman to root for, so she ends up using all the "Black points" in the story.

[@darrius3022]

@Baraborn Or like White Characters they use black ones based on popularity. Since their debuts heroes like Black Panther, Storm, Miles Morales, Monica Rambeau are used in stories because popularity even if their not given real storyline or dilemma. Now people want to say Storm is overused when she just barely being used as anything more than powerhouse to push plot points or for other characters to use as mirror to bounce monologs off. She's even real dilemma and trying to be more than just a Queen and people complain it's too much meanwhile Wolverine is so damn overused its multiple Wolverines and now Laura Wolverine has a Wolverine that's spin off of her lol 😞

[@murk4552]

​@@Baraborn Wolverine is everywhere. None of the X-Men even have half as much coverage as him. Get real bro, real a comic book.

[@psycho9815]

​@@Baraborn tell that to wolverine or jean grey who was literally everywhere in the 90's...but now that a black character is getting massive love its a problem?

[@witchivy5905]

As a life long Storm fan I feel like she's gonna go through even more loss. Being betrayed by Mother R. As well as Colossus being set up for mental instability. She's gonna go through a potential dark age and grow distant and cold

[@ampocalypsew3883]

We had this b4 but I hope it goes much deeper thn the past issues, cause we know both Krakoa and Arrako will not last. So what will the mutants do in the future once they survive or possibly win this future war

[@mickysimp]

I think you also missed where Storm agrees with Emma’s sentiments, she also as she say “Emma lashes out when hurt” so she understands what Emma says isnt coming from a place of just rudeness but hurt and anger at herself from letting this happen. Storm in her own way is trying to rectify her own problems so that the QC can change. Storm isn’t staying on both councils to spite Emma but because she feels as though thats her duty, she feels that she needs to stay on both seats. I also want to add that just as how Storm lashed out against Exodus and Hope by striking them with lightning strong enough to crush a mountain, Emma similarly did the same to Storm however instead of weapons she used her words to attack. An attack that woke Storm up.

[@zthemartian616]

Thank you 🙌🏾

[@jameljenks2584]

Also, when Emma was leading the X-Men with Scott, storm said something similar to her, and she listened. Storm really should listen

[@sovarosepisthmwn2449]

Emma Frost is not a leader ,she is more of a follower.Storm I think is her mother and Emma is an idiotic person.She stole her body in the past and wore a provocative outfit with Storm s body...She is so jealous of Storm as a woman.And she also couldnt handle her God power .But Storm s lightning power is fueled mostly by her power as a witch.STORM IS A PSIONIC WITCH AND MAGIC ROYALTY.Emma fFrost is not Magic Royalty.

[@klaudyd1552]

Y'all go read Sons of X! Mother Righteous really is built DIFFERENT

[@maryse8]

Why couldn't Destiny have foreseen what Mother Righteous was going to do regarding Mystique?

[@darrius3022]

She probably did. As Storm said the Current timeline is one Destiny chose and manipulated events to ensure it happens

[@darrius3022]

I think Storm won't take sides because she'd choose Arrako, and she knows Krakoa will fall. Arrako leaders while some corrupt function far better and are all Omega level mutants yet they follow Storm and willing to grow and learn with her something Quiet Council isn't willing to do.

[@Ephideltrance]

You are right, you really had to suspend disbelief with some of the people on the quiet council, especially Sinister. Arrako is way more functional with less petty individuals too.

[@ampocalypsew3883]

This is true though I have a feeling Arrako will fall just like Krakoa seeing as in every timeline they domt stand a chance due to different outcomes in the future, so the real question is what will the Arrako go to once their planet and home is gone?

[@ampocalypsew3883]

@@darrius3022 not all if anything only three arrakian survives, and remember the other 9 lives of Moria they were nowhere to be seen. Though I do believe a great deal of them will survive in this timeline but they will lose their new home on Mars, my concern is will they go back to Amyth or stay on earth?

[@darrius3022]

@ampocalypsew3883 The other 9 lives did mention mutants living in space its possible like current timeline and in SoS timline they just explored space and became priates like The Fisher King's daughter Weaponless Zen or conquered otherworlds or just never left Ameth. In SoS Arrako itself was destroyed alot died but some survived the story only showed the Brotherhood for the most part but when they showed the Brotherhood base in +10, +100 and 1000 it was massive like giant metal islands floating in space. Other mutants were shown too, but because the story was about Brotherhood, it really only showed them. But others survived and lived under Storm's rule, which is why so many were still alive in the Storm System at +1000 even after different wars. Emma and Red Diamond killed everyone at the end of SoS +1000.

[@ampocalypsew3883]

@@darrius3022 you right I totally forgot the whole mutants leaving earth and going to other empires, so with that in mind I can see a lot of mutants going to other galaxy to exlscaoe their oppression. While some of the known xmen would stay on earth, though I hope Stork and the BH separate themselves from the xmen to forge their own path. Just to get storm away from the toxic xmen members

[@Katzztar]

Blerd, you made a mistake mentioning Magneto. He already left the Quiet Council BEFORE his death. That's how Hope got on the Council. He left before he went to Mars and joined the council, the Great Ring, for Arakko and that seat is also already filled, by Storm when she left her other seat to take the one Magneto had.

[@tracyalan7201]

It's a helpful review. Lots of pressure being put on Storm and Colossus. What I find interesting, is that Krakoa, which given Xavier or other telepaths on the island, none of them seems to check up on its citizens, whether through the telepathic versus the technological ability. Such that Cerebro was supposed to touch out detecting mutants throughout the world. Forge could develop tech to do anything he chooses, yet given the powers that are out there, none of them seem to be used to detect the status of the mutants. If Cerebro has the capability to back up the mutant minds, why hasn't Colossus's girlfriend that he had in Savage Land been detected or determined to be missing and not backed up? Is the backup only for mutant's that live on Krakoa, which seems limited, given that it is tech and done automatically, so why wasn't it programmed to flag out those missing/not backed up recently. Even, then, wasn't Legion/Scarlett Witches creation supposed to bring those mutants that were backed up, like Blindfold to be able to communicate with those that are? The other thought was why are the Quiet Council so worried or dependent on Sinister's genetic database? Isn't Tempus's power able to go back/forward in time? If she could erase a mutant from being conceived, why couldn't the mutants take an extraction team to discreetly go back pre or early emergence of mutant powers to get a genetic sample of the mutant? For that matter, move and see the future? Even Doctor Doom/Kang/Richard's family has done that a few times. As for experience, age and hindsight, don't always mean perfection. Even with mutants living long lives, some have still fallen, so why would short living mutants fall short of perfection? Even with telepathic powers, no one has determined Colossus isn't controlled. As the old Shadow series, "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men".

[@cadr003]

I definitely see Mother Righteous seeking for a seat on the table.

[@troyubanks5131]

Mother Righteous is the female version of Loki for the X-Men😂

[@MatthewMobscene]

Emma putting Storm in check was pretty satisfying not gonna lie. Storm has been rasiging my eyebrow lately

[@sethgleason8611]

Poor Ororo..the pressures..but Emma IS Right .

[@Mrsierramist1]

I respect someone that knows themselves well enough to understand that they will refuse to do something out of spite.

[@devegas4910]

Emma is unfortunately right that Storm can’t split her time between the two nations anymore. She’ll have to choose. I knew for a while that she would need to leave the Quiet Council because her time has been better spent on Arakko. She’s making significant changes and building a proper relationship with their mutant cousins and that’s important. And if she really had to choose between staying on the council or the great ring, she’d choose the great ring. And there’s nothing wrong with that at all. We can see it clear as day. Krakoa’s council is a young parallel to Arakko’s Great Ring. And we can also see that the members of the Great Ring appear to be more straight forward than the Quiet Council about their mistrust and dislike of each other. Some have challenged Storm to her face and she’s had to literally fight for her life and her seat. Furthermore, Arakko respects strength and allows its people to challenge members of the Great Ring at any time should they feel that the current sitting member isn’t worthy of their position. When it comes to the quiet council, it’s up to the sitting members to choose who stays, who goes, and who fills the empty seats.

[@4eyes2killingyou]

Emma asking Ororo what she was doing for five years before she knew what was up lmao

[@sovarosepisthmwn2449]

Emma Frost does not have raw power and is not a good witch.And Storm is hotter.

[@4eyes2killingyou]

@sovarosepisthmwn2449 it wasn't Storm's fault but it created a blindspot cuz Storm can't be two places at once.

[@mjr8888]

...why didn't Storm give her vote to Kate? Kate is super close to Storm, understands her. Jfc..

[@tmd-w1552]

Think its because of that guy just writing he can manipulate reality

[@whipedge]

They want collosus to be relevant 😂

[@shepardoakenshieldprime3357]

I mean it makes sense to me that she gave her vote to the other member of the Summer side of the council.

[@historyking9984]

I like how storms faults and success was shown. Like I love storm but she’s been like she has no faults for a while . It’s good for every character to have a few flaws or issues.

[@bill930505]

Ororo’s birthday was on May 1st. So surely this is her birthday month, with full of comics mainly involving her! Also, check Scarlet Witch #5. It’s big, in regards to Magneto. Plus, XMR #11 takes place before the last two pages of IXM #11.

[@lg6400]

I cannot understand how Destiny is allowed to "play" with the council. She is the most manipulative non-transparent citizen next to Emma.

[@babytoshiro7014]

Man, Ernie here putting in the working. Almost a 30 min video. It's great to follow along!🙌🙌🔥🔥🔥🔥And STORM!!!!!❤❤

[@unixmoon4842]

The way it pained me to see Emma actially make good points about storm and that whole business. I hate to see it but she was cooking on that and storm had gokd instincts herself - piotr would've been a perfectly capable and sane mouthpiece for her will if he wasnt having his own little family feud

[@4eyes2killingyou]

Yeah. Like Ororo dividing her time between krakoa and arrako created a blindspot for her which is why it took Ororo so long for her to notice and Emma saw that.

[@onyx081]

Emma ain't cook shit. Storm isn’t beyond mistakes but let’s keep a buck, Storm is helping mutants in Sol. *Everyone* on that Council has other duties. As for Sinister, them bitches put him on the council and thought he wasn’t going to scheme? It's not Storm's fault that the entire Council is completely incompetent without her.

[@OnyxeBlade]

Unpopular Opinion: Rogue or Betsy needs pull on The Quiet Council. Too many dubious individuals have so much say so and not enough genuine good people Very good video and I'm glad you saw that Emma wasn't wrong here

[@danielivanov930]

Great review on the comic as usual . Exactly what i was thinking while i was reading the issue but better explained 🙃.

[@jacksondaniels007]

Feel really bad for Colossus, def not fair that he's been forced 2 b a puppet 4 so long.

[@Optimustron7125]

Listen I feel Storm can do all things but I honestly prefer her with the mutants of Arakko. Idk it’s something about her being able to connect with a waring people and change and adapt the their ideology and evolve them to me honestly feels better for Storm as a character. Emma did shade her with the truth but I honestly think Storm is Arakko her and Magneto really got it out the mud there Lbvs 😂

[@77mcmarine]

Storm being checked by Emma is both weird and good storytelling.

[@LarryDWilmore79]

I hate the fact that while in Storm leadership and this is almost always that something goes wrong…it never fells. They intentionally writes Storm as and the of why all failed only to have someone less powerful, less skillful, far less capable and knowledgeable to come behind and be the hero. She’s written as a sacrifice..a stepping stone to someone else’s highlight. It’s a tiring trope but where is Jean in all this? Isn’t Jean Storm’s best friend? Isn’t Jean the Queen of the X-Men? Where is Cyclops? These three have been the mind, body and soul of mutants since the three of them met. I guess with Mother Righteous we will eventually get to see how indomitable Storm’s will truly is. Storm is most definitely the type to bow down and Emma is the wrong person to approach her when usually it’s Kitty (the one who shares the mother/daughter relationship with Storm) but also Storm is not one who would just turn her back on others who need her as well. Speaking of Kitty and Storm…why the hell can’t either of the two sense that Colossus is not himself? Storm and Colossus has always had that sibling type connection and other than Storm Kitty has a very close relationship with him as well. What I respect about Prof is that of all the X-Men he has always submitted to Storm’s will when she felt it was right, even more than Cyc and Jean. I like the friendship between Storm and Emma although she can’t ever beat Storm she still respects her on a level where she’s not afraid to speak her mind…I believe Storm is the only one of the X-Men that Emma truly respects without being deceptive and sarcastic and I know Storm respects her the same but just doesn’t trust her on an equal level. It does make for an interesting story

[@ampocalypsew3883]

Storm needs to leave the main xmen including those she sees as a friend or family, granted I do believe some of the Arakkian will follow storm and possible be the ones to fight for a better future but. She needs to really stop and choose a side

[@AdrianMendoza23]

Immortal X-Men 11 was everything I needed after SoS

[@tavinsfilmproduction9786]

I love the content so much man! (You probably get requests to cover stuff a lot, but you should cover Star Wars high republic or Wildcats/milestone on the DC front

[@ilovemygirl32]

i couls see monther rightchurs playing the long game and gerting on might take awhile but i think she will get there

[@RWCRD]

Another incredible video my brother

[@77mcmarine]

Correction: Magneto and Apacolypse were replaced by Destiny and Hope respectively.

[@battlefries]

I thought that Destiny replaced Apocalypse and Hope replaced Magneto. Did I get it backwards? Not being sarcastic, just genuinely confused.

[@77mcmarine]

@@battlefries Colossus replaced Jean Grey Destiny replaced Apacolypse Hope replaced Magneto

[@battlefries]

@@77mcmarine Gotcha. Thank you for clarifying! ^_^

[@Baraborn]

That sucks. this shows an inability to break from the established Krakoa formula. I was hoping to get a brief period of fallout from the events of SoS but they blinked.

[@10-OSwords]

Storm is the T'Pau of mutant kind.

[@MARQUE9368]

Mannnnnn….all this gonna make me wanna/hafta start collecting again!!!!

[@juniorthethird08]

The pressure of Krakoa’s “Quiet Council” seems to never be equally divided, which makes great characters make indecisive decisions. It’s tough to fault them for doing what they think is best for the people and not “what they feel is right”.

[@andrewmartin1928]

"You have a seat on the council but you do not have the rank of member.". Reminds me of long ago, in a galaxy far far away.

[@jameljenks2584]

I would have thought Storm would remember this lesson from the morlocks when she was leading them.

[@1187underground]

The in-fighting in the council does seem a little forced, but it drives the events that lead up to "Fall of X." I dont think Storm needs to worry about Mother Righteous because Legion has already seen thru the game she is playing. With the council this divided, im surprised they are not looking to fill these empty seats with other mutants that arent so morally ambiguous

[@Vendetta419]

Emma wasn't wrong to call Storm out. Hell I loved it when Kurt told Scott that basically mutants are human too and they forgot what it means to be human.

[@murk4552]

Emma of all people saying this is gold. When Frost, Shaw and the Hellfire Club is why a majority of mutant issues got worsened.

[@jackieanderson9408]

Storm is a savage 😊

[@Tazirai]

Hey @blerd, what is the music you use over as the background? Had me vibin, while you spoke

[@TheCreedyouknow]

Of all the choices. She could have kate or nightcrawler as her voice since the align way more with her than colossus but damn. She's still not prepared for the chaos on krakoa

[@zthemartian616]

Nightcrawler left Krokoa in Fall of X actually

[@ampocalypsew3883]

Imo she should've left her seat and selected Frenzy to be her voice and keep an eye out.

[@zthemartian616]

@@ampocalypsew3883 Frenzy doesn't have the pull that anyone else on the council does, it wouldn't work

[@ampocalypsew3883]

@@zthemartian616 That or Jean , tho I wanted Frenzy cus she needs something to do

[@zthemartian616]

@Ampocalypse W The problem with Jean is wrapped up with the X-Men stuff going on right now, representing the nation, and half the council would vote against it given she willingly gave up her seat. It's a tricky situation cause there aren't many mutants left that have political, intellectual/strategic, AND social power to challenge the other Quiet Council members, and even lesser amount given who Storm can and can't trust.

[@AtmosphereIVXX]

man so many twist and turns and we just got back from sins of sinister and Mikhail just over here just chilling. If anything Mikhail might have more on the mutants than Orchis.

[@Thirstyman]

What issue were those Destiny predictions in? BTW Love your channel.

[@abc_cba]

There doesn't seem anything righteous about mother righteous, believe me 😂

[@earthshaker1217]

Am the only one seeing a running theme of symbols and representation coming in the forefront for the recent storylines. I wanna say starting from Judgement Day but becoming more prominent especially with Mother Righteous being center. Magick/Sorcery/Occult is her thing, and symbolism is a huge factor in magical and divinatory work (sigils, card reading, rituals, etc.) But now we've also got representation from a political standpoint where one person represents a mass of people and how that can shift things. My theory is that the Fall of X might end up being the fall of Quiet Council as a governing body since it's more of an oligarchy, and the mutants might work to find new ways of governance and autonomy.

[@RichardHudlin]

Mother Righteous is fast becoming one of my favorite new villains. Who doesn't love a schemer?

[@koozg7579]

And make it look easy!

[@chilleffghee2375]

But can Forge be trusted, didn't Sinister infect everyone except for Storm

[@ozymondiasthehub5925]

Sigh. Read Sins of Sinister 1 again. Clearly Forge is still alive right after the resurrection of the Sinisterized 4. Sinister's tempering was still purged up to this point.

[@shaunsutton699]

Can we have the X-Men go back to what they used to be…. Heroes?

[@tyrojames9937]

MAN, CRAZY❗💣💥

[@SnowqueenEmmaFrost-qy5zs]

Remember the issue , where she had the phoenix

[@goodapples.]

There's a whole lot of trouble brewing.

[@RavenCoyote]

1st, Magneto wasn't on the Council. They need to replace Sinister officially. Also, how did genes get into people who hadn't died. The whole point of killing Hope was to make sure genes were introduced. Did they cleanse everyone who had died previously to cure them?

[@jackieanderson9408]

Good 👍

[@out4meeify]

If Krakao falls it wiuld because the founders trusted Sinister. Not Ororo. Enma trying to make this all on Ororo is ridiculous. This isn’t Ororo’s kingdom..

[@Manny4983]

Yes sir

[@Djminor321]

You four are on this council, but we don't grant you the rank of Master😂😂

[@4eyes2killingyou]

Storm said she was the captain now lmao

[@sirdeezyknightofx5535]

Also did you peep how the forge report sets up how the dominion was possibly formed and how its Sinister yet not Sinister

[@pierre0227]

I love that Emma stood up to Storm and Destiny holds her ground. Also didn't Storm wait for five years because Destiny told her to?

[@ssamcobalt4956]

Yeah Emma is the right person to do it

[@redpapi3541]

Emma and Charles didn't scan Sinister before all this to make sure he wasn't doing anything fishy. They allowed him to help with the resurrection protocols and didn't plant fail safes. You can't blame people like Storm AFTER the events when before the events, the people who could have known and stopped him immediately didn't do their job. Storm was left to clean up because of them. I think people like you want so bad for Storm to be wrong for something that you point out how long it took her, that don't matter. She was the one who had to deal with it because of Charles and Emma. Think about it sir.

[@pierre0227]

@@redpapi3541 my problem is that storm here is pointing the fingers when same can be done to her. The council must hold each of their own accountable.

[@pierre0227]

@@redpapi3541 maybe it’s time for storm to choose a side. I don’t like her working for both Krakoa and Arrako.

[@pierre0227]

@@redpapi3541 also didn’t storm refuse to reset the timeline? Something that Moira did in the end. And let’s not forget Rasputin 4 key role into all this. I don’t get why storm gets the full credit.

[@wakamoon1910]

I think you meant to say sinister is taken off the seat instead of magneto who was already off a while ago from the beginning of destiny of X. there is an empty seat they can replace and they'll really need one of their most good mutant on there, might be a good time for angel to do something now.

[@dranzmaxwell3090]

I feel like this is constantly being asked where the hell is Apocalypse lol

[@tmd-w1552]

Yeah I think its time for him and his wife to return

[@philgood8089]

Storm is getting EVERYTHING lately... which has me WAY worried she's heading for a fall. Say it ain't so...!

[@sovarosepisthmwn2449]

Because they envy everything she has?

[@philgood8089]

@@sovarosepisthmwn2449 - isn't that usually how it goes? :/

[@sovarosepisthmwn2449]

What do you mean?

[@philgood8089]

@@sovarosepisthmwn2449 - - - power, prestige... people often want what they don't have, and make a move to take it by any means.

[@sovarosepisthmwn2449]

@@philgood8089 You mean her position or her body etc?Because she is hot also.

[@UnReQuited93]

What about Jon Iron Fire punching a portal onto Arocko with the white sword, proclaiming that Genesis is on her way? That kinda a big thing to talk about, or the fight between Charles and storm and how he tried to force magneto's last words from her mind, only to be shot back down by her and unfriended, 86'n him from Arocko

[@louisalectube]

Not hating the channel or the comic, but remember when X-men had adventures...and fought badguys and villians...and saved people...n'stuff? I do...All this Quiet Council circles-within-circles, Game of X-Thrones stuff is...interesting, especially the resurrection stuff, but IDK. It's almost like they can't "lower" themselves to being "just" heroes anymore.

[@ssamcobalt4956]

Emma was completely right here.

[@laordendelos4400]

A couple of smalls corrections, magneto's seat is taken by hope summers at the beginning of inmortal x-men, and not only is xavier, hope, exodus and emma without a vote, storm is divided and Nightcrawler left krakoa, but Mr. Sinister is inprisoned in the pit so the only menbers of the council with a vote are destiny, mystique, kate pryde, Sebastián shaw and colossus!!!!! Only 5 menbers 😱😱😱😱😱

[@sKeTcH_LiVe]

So is the chronicler really the one responsible for sins of sinister and the alternate timeline? Or do his powers only affect Colossus's story?

[@loveoverhate1357]

🖤

[@BushidoBrownSama]

Hear me out Janelle Monet as Storm

[@ampocalypsew3883]

Both Scott and now Emma has told Storm to pick side, first was her marriage and being queen of wakanda, and now this. This is storms biggest issue that she has nvr learn from, I bet her next relationship will be question and due to this she will get dumb on again. I hope she get this straighten up, but one thing is for certain she will blame herself due to the fall of the mutants, and most importantly she won't trust none of her friends. But I love how she speak on what Charles done to her, I've been saying this shit for years.

[@jeremywoodard9211]

is the one thing storm has failed to understand you can’t please everyone T’Challa has told her if I had to choose between Wakanda in the avengers, I will choose Wakanda every time because they are my responsibility no matter how other people feel about my choice

[@tmd-w1552]

​@@jeremywoodard9211 but thats the problem they're both her problem both people rely on her completely to the point she is viewed as a God shit she still feels responsible for Wakanda constantly coming to their aid Storm is truly got it hard. This is no longer about a group of heroes but nations shit one is even a planet

[@jeremywoodard9211]

@TMD-W that’s the thing do they really need a God or do they need a queen? because how I see it quite cancel has failed and storm is still running away for what the universe is practically telling her you need to be queen or none of this is going to work

[@ampocalypsew3883]

@@jeremywoodard9211 absolutely which is why T'Challa is such a great leader to his ppl (even tho they treat him like shit)

[@ampocalypsew3883]

@@tmd-w1552 she only goes to wakanda out of guilt of her dumb decision for not choosing a side, besides the fact that she didn't aid the only nation that has supported mutants still ticks me off

[@jackieanderson9408]

Mother Righteous feeds on gratitude I think.

[@phillipbruce5816]

Hope has trust issues, and seeing herself betrayed by someone, she was almost as close to her as Cable scares her. And so, she attacks him to keep him at bay, so to speak. How did Mother Righteous have a version of the recording that Destiny left for Sinister that he himself left in a ship she had never been in.

[@phillipbruce5816]

It was slick how she got Mystic to say "thank you," though.

[@sirdeezyknightofx5535]

Magneto's seat was filled by Hope.... currently the seat that need to be filled is Sinisters. With hope, Xavier, Emma & exodus having no vote, nightcrawler handing his vote to storm for now.

[@HolyHadou]

Wait, is the Sinsister gene still in everyone else that has been resurrected?

[@dbears1603]

Was wondering the samething

[@wakamoon1910]

forge thinks he got rid of it but they are taking some precautions in case it'll still manifest which is why their votes were taken away.

[@trustmeeyelie2665]

It shouldn't be in anyone that Hope helped resurrect. Sinister stated that her power somehow managed to purge his influence from the returned. Really they should have Synch copy her powers and re-resurrect her. I get that only we the readers have this info, but they could've figured it out based on the timing and the choice of who Sinister killed.

[@HolyHadou]

@@trustmeeyelie2665 I totally missed that. Thanks.

[@dbears1603]

@@trustmeeyelie2665 didn't know that but if true it shouldn't really be in any one then since if I remember right the 5 work together to resurrect

[@MannysMillennialMouth]

Why they never asked Rogue to serve on the Council?? They've been sidelining her for my liking. Storm would've definitely entrusted Rogue over Colossus

[@ryandecastro1659]

good voice yet would take the extra sound in the background or change to less distasting rhythm just takes from your narration similar to films expecting the background sound to tell the story

[@roberte.woods3rd629]

Looks like the villains are winning.

[@brandonwolfe2703]

One thing no one is paying attention to is arako had just dealt with judgement day and having a large portion of their numbers wiped out and they don’t use resurrected. Not to mention Vulcan Abigail and all the b.s. It would be one thing if Arakoa was storms side mission that only had to to with her but arokoa (however it’s spelled) is Krakóas sister nation and they all in some way have ties to them. Also can destiny not see what’s going on with colossus. Someone’s gotta stop him

[@cliftonhatchett9647]

Feels like Storm is going to die😢😢😢

[@AsiefD]

Ororo lost me with the righteous indignation here. Being angry at people for something that (1) they literally DIDN’T do and (2) being genetically manipulated against their will is some next level indignation from She who can do no wrong.

[@ampocalypsew3883]

This is either comic logic or possibly a mutant thing, it's possible their powers Influx with their emotions making them emotionally unstable. Prime example the avx thing, they knew the Pheonix was a dangerous power that takes lives from every multiverse when ever someone uses its power. Yet they were so dead on bringing back the mutants population (even tho they weren't dead just depowered)

[@witchivy5905]

It's not that she cant do no wrong it's that they were tampered with by sinister already and she had to lock that down lol. She's done wrong in trusting the wrong people currently tho imo

[@Bwrandon]

She's not upset about what they did in the future she's upset that at the suicide missions that got us her, the self-serving on the council and the bribes. That's the cause.

[@mikelee428]

Get over it! Seems like you forget what Charles has done all along.

[@ampocalypsew3883]

@@mikelee428 true kinda wish his ass stayed dead lol

[@onyx081]

I don't know why people acting like Emma really did something here. All Emma did was show that the entire council is incompetent without Storm. The Quiet Council has some of the world's most powerful telepaths, including Emma who didn't notice a thing, but somehow this is Storm's fault? GTFOH!

[@igetthatgoodjugg]

Gillen threw shade at Storm and this issue is riddled with WIS(writer induced stupidity).

[@VelvetHammerBooking]

all Storm has to do is create a clone of herself and now she can literally be in 2 places at one time and no one other than the cloners will know the difference. Now she can lead both as long as she connects with her other self to keep the other about what is going on. She can lead both nations to greatness. Why are they making this a hard option?

[@BigReuben97]

And if that clone goes haywire?

[@VelvetHammerBooking]

@@BigReuben97 fam You gone put some RESPECK on Storm fam. Of all of the “leaders” she was the ONLY one to not die in over 100 years. And as stated in this issue and this podcast is everyone trust her without even thinking about the “what ifs” so having 2 of her might actually bring the 2 nations together. The last thing anyone is worried about is Storm “going haywire” 😂

[@BigReuben97]

@Fletcher Spank Batts nigga what are u talking about? put some respect on her name? She's my favorite x-men and I'm saying storm having a Clone is a bad idea. Especially during sins of sinister

[@ak420haze]

Well you'll be happy to know that Alex is usually correct. You think he isnt? Give it a few more years and you'll find out that he is.

[@myfddream]

I am very disappointed in Ororo's friends. In that, I mean her X-men brothers and sisters. The things that she has been dealing with and her friends have not step foot on Arrako just to check on her to chat and see how she is holding up and possibly give some moral advice to lift her spirit is appalling to me. Yet, she has been forced to still give attention to Krakoa when she doesn't get the support in return. When the last time Emma and Charles showed up in Arrako. Where in the world is Ororo long time BEST FRIEND Jean Grey. A friendship writers really dont capture the essence of and is just a title. Where is Gambit; Ororo's 'old friend'. Where is Wolverine, Jubilee and Nightcrawler and Rogue. In X-men Red there has not been one visit from any one of them just to show support. Magneto been there, but Ororo and Mag never had a close relationship. Nor did she have a really close one with Sunspot. It's very strange that the writers would have her still tied to Krakoa council to handle issues when she clearly don't get support from them AT ALL. Some can say Emma was right, but in truth Emma didn't say anything Storm wasn't already dealing with internally and like I said, when was the last time self absorbed Emma took upon herself to go check on Ororo and support. Arrako been dealing with a lot as well. I'm sorry but that is what the writers really need to focus on as well. How her X-men friends have NOT been there for her. How is she really dealing with that part. It's time for Ororo to concentrate on Arrako only.

[@candacestringer]

Lord Ororo , why wouldn't she go to Kitty , Jean , anyone? 😢

[@jacksondaniels007]

Possibly Kitty but Jean's not on the council any more, it's prob for the best that she chose to give up her seat, now she's not restrained by the politics.

[@evilalterego]

Hope replaced Magneto back in Immortal X-Men #1

[@angelmannj]

since timeline has been reset...where is magneto?

[@tmd-w1552]

He's still dead

[@jackieanderson9408]

I agree. Hope acting surprise is out of character.

[@malicyoung9293]

And let's not forget storm--sos storm--was the main reason the horrors of the sos timeline lasted a 1000 years. She could have stopped it at year 100, but didn't.

[@mprince2342]

Killing an entire universe over the corruption of a single planet is not fair. There wasn't suffering everywhere, and there was still the world farm of planets and life of innocents that Storm transported to the edge of space that lived in peace for those thousand years.

[@malicyoung9293]

@@mprince2342 make no mistake I'm not judging sos Storm for her choice. I personally can understand her viewpoint. But it's hypocritical for our storm now to judge Emma and the other members of the "sinister four" for atrocities they committed in an alternate timeline, when her alternate self did her part to perpetuate the nightmare. Besides, by the time the sos timeline had reached its first millennium, it really had become universal. The sinistered council had established empires across galaxies, conquering the most powerful alien races. If sinister hadn't eradicated his own creation, if the timeline hadn't been reset, sinister Xavier almost certainly would have crushed any remaining resistance over time.

[@mprince2342]

@@malicyoung9293 That's not hypocritical, because it implies Storm did something neglectful or helped advance Sinister's plans. Whether she reset the timeline or allowed it to continue, it's still the same level of destruction. She made a choice not to destroy an entire universe on the notion that all its remaining life would be doomed from survival, and she was clearly right in her stance regardless to however long it took Sinister's corruption to finish off the rest of the universe, since there was still a thousand years worth of innocent lives that did manage to thrive. Emma was the one who revealed the truth about Moira's powers to the Quiet Council, which then led to Sinister developing the Moira Engine in the first place. The original Xavier and Emma are both guilty of what led to SoS, since it was their choice to let Sinister on the council and tell him about Moira. Nothing Storm did after that was going to change how this turned out. She did the best she could in a crappy situation, and shouldn't have to bear the responsibility for an entire governing body that can't seem to function without her being there for every second of their foolish choices.

[@adamcedeno7465]

You can tell the writer is not the same same as Ewing. This writer is making Storm dumb

[@hoboringmaster8029]

Nah man. Os is a literal “psyop” ; like a plot device