Let's Talk About COLOSSUS Kickstarting the FALL OF X in Immortal X-Men #12

[@flatbushmafia]

That's a shame that family is usually the ones to bring about your downfall and in the case of Colossus his brother did him dirty. Now the mutants are going to have to relocate or try to wipe the non mutants mind of their existence.

[@igetthatgoodjugg]

Ewing made Storm a tactician. Gillen is literally destroying that interpretation.

[@patd9850]

What’s messed up with Storm is that even finding out about the future. See still decides to not stick around for watch what happening. She instead passes her responsibilities to other people. Who clearly can’t be trusted. If she was really paying attention to what’s happening to the island.

[@hellblaze10]

She realy should have found a full time replacement

[@HashimWarren]

​@@hellblaze10 Storm's flaw is she doesn't want to embrace queendom or godhood, even if that's needed. She'd rather reactively fight a threat

[@Thoughtsrdeadly]

Storm has been leading the X-Men since she knifed Callisto. Aracko is her new responsibility. Frankly having a back up plan to existence on this globe is brilliant and I could not think of ANYONE better to do it the Council has proven to be a swamp and now she has distance to be able to act independently I will agree that she could have trusted Kitten with her vote instead of Poitr

[@AtmosphereIVXX]

I wanna give storm the benefit of doubt but ehhh storm been tripping since they came back from sins

[@hellblaze10]

@@AtmosphereIVXX Like Emma said, it took her way too long to knotice something was wrong.

[@1187underground]

Happy to see Selene back, but wish it was under better circumstances. The Fall of X seems to be moving too quickly, considering all the mutants at Krakoa's disposal and the advancements they have made. Hopefully, we see some changes in the villains as Orchis begins to breakdown Krakoa, or well just witness the end of a great era for the X-Men

[@Thoughtsrdeadly]

Right it doesn't make sense with all the resources mutants have at their control there should not even be a competition even with all the forces against them. It seems they are two busy infighting to realize the true enemy or extent of their predicament. Think of all the circuits the mutants have at their disposal. For instance Forge,whiz Kid ,Madison Jeffries, cerebrax to build a sentinel killer . All their best minds are off doing their own thing

[@unkown981]

⁠​⁠@@ThoughtsrdeadlyI mean prof X did yeet 250k mutants through the portal then orchis deactived krakoan tech which also deactived the prison out in place for the children of the vault then the arakai mutants attack mutants of new arako on mars to add the cherry on top orchis kicked Tony out of his own company made new sentinels using stark tech it would be a miracle if the mutants don’t lose at least 50% of their people

[@Thoughtsrdeadly]

@@unkown981 The minds and powers of the mutant nation should have been able to anticipate and respond to the threat looming against them is what I am saying. Even at half strength if they combined their powers they would be something to deal with. I mean look at what just Bishop and Cable are able to achieve

[@unkown981]

@@Thoughtsrdeadly that’s the problem they were already at half strength because half of the mutant population was chilling in arako then they split themselves more to colonise mars and make new arako and orchis is basically the world government with them being backed by hydra, disgruntled shield employees, A.I.M and more

[@unkown981]

@@Thoughtsrdeadly and the skirmish they had with the eternals messed em up they had already lost apocalypse beforehand and then they lost magneto during AXE

[@ChantMacleod]

Storm gave Colossus her vote. So Colossus is the Jar-Jar to Storm's Padme, because plot. That tracks.

[@johnwright9049]

Everything on the current X-Men storytelling run has made good sense.

[@christopherbennett5858]

And Mother Righteous just made Mystique kill Destiny. Let’s just say that there’s no place in the universe Righteous will be able to hide when Mystique finds her.

[@SerpentineDeity]

This writing is superb. You can make the argument they deserve it but all sides are equally scummy.

[@Infelsinave]

Didn’t Emma go in on Storm for not recognizing they were under Sinister’s control? Only for her to not recognize what’s going on with Piotr?… 🗑️

[@rasun316]

...i was thinking the same thing :)

[@Vendetta419]

Here what ppl don't understand, when Emma is under stress she lashed out and she does not think clearly so she won't see the fact something is wrong with Colossus.

[@zthemartian616]

Shes not even associates with Colossus like that. Nor would she or any one else on the counter be able to detect reality warping storytelling 💀

[@devegas4910]

Not even Xavier has been checking colossus and he’s the one who elected him.

[@AtmosphereIVXX]

yea not enough i feel it needs to get physical.

[@witchdoctorstrong3734]

It suck that COLOSSUS is concisous while being controlled. It's what I imagine it feels like if there was a bit of HUMANITY left in zombies. If COLOSSUS were to ever get out of the CHRONCILERS control, if feel like he would react similar to JESSICA JONES after the Purple man. I think he would feel betrayed that no one knew HE WASNT HIMSELF.

[@Thoughtsrdeadly]

Let us remember that the author of Colossus is his brother not the Chronicoler

[@bizzerdman2093]

This reminds me of the Superior Spider-Man when Peter was basically a ghost in his own mind while Otto was in control.

[@bill930505]

Not to forget, even the recent issue of Red Goblin has a nod to ORCHIS and Feilong (and a ton of Stark Sentinels!), so we might have to watch the issues moving forward from there as well.

[@onirepublikph1870]

I have a question: if the rest of the Quiet Council has been compromised in the DNA and cellular level… why don’t they hire Elixir, Cerebrax and Microbe (the mutant from New Warriors) to cleanse the supposedly compromised mutants of the Sinister gene? Microbe was a powerful mutant, too, in my opinion. but he hasn’t been resurrected after the events that triggered Civil War.

[@zthemartian616]

Some people are missing some elements of the story so Cerebrax, Microbe, or Elixir cant cleanse the council because the Sinister gene is a strange dimensional loop, out of synch with normal time and space. It's there and not there at the same time.

[@zthemartian616]

@Zee B Yeah no, that's didn't happen lol. After the Sins of Sinister Timeline was erased, they did the best they could to have Forge design a machine to get rid of it but there is still a chance its there

[@zthemartian616]

@Zee B Dude Hope never found that out. He killed her along with half the council as part of his ascension to power. Hope never knew until the aftermath of Sins of Sinister, she literally had to be showed what happened along with Emma, Charles, and Exodus

[@onirepublikph1870]

@@zthemartian616 yeah, Hope didnt discover it conciously. it is like her body doing its natural defenses against biological foreign bodies.

[@Thoughtsrdeadly]

@@zthemartian616 Tempo

[@RavenCoyote]

ok I'm taking a break, I so son't want to see Krakoa devastated and mutants basically obliterated its heartbreaking to me

[@devegas4910]

I feel you. This is the best the mutants have been in a long time and to see it all wiped away again just fills me with a sense of hopelessness

[@Thoughtsrdeadly]

How is it that the X-MEN have the strongest telepaths on the planet on the Council but no one can sus out the mind control. Hell Kid Omega should be able to tell

[@zthemartian616]

Because Colossus isn't being controlled convenitally by mental powers lol. It's a reality warper controlling the story. Obviously not something a telepath can sus out.

[@lucariomew365]

​​@@zthemartian616 I see where you're coming from, but there are still way too many plot contrivances, even for a comic. Given the discovery of the Sinister gene, it is reasonable to expect the Quiet Council to thoroughly scan all members, including former and active X-Team members. While their primary goal is to identify Sinister DNA, Forge's scanner can also detect quantum and dimensional frequencies, potentially uncovering the method of controlling Colossus. The Quiet Council acknowledged uncertainty about Mr. Sinister's intentions. It is a fundamental security measure to examine everyone for additional covert super-agents. If half of the group was compromised, extending scrutiny to the remaining members is logical. Moreover, in the latest issue, it is revealed that Colossus is internally distressed and panicked. Essentially held captive within his own body and remotely manipulated, he desperately hopes someone will notice his uncharacteristic behavior. The telepathic Council members could and should have detected his thoughts and emotions, recognizing the discrepancy with his outward demeanor. Without Charles's intervention, Emma would have discerned the situation.

[@lucariomew365]

​@@zthemartian616 Moreover, considering the revelation that Mother Righteous had been withholding information for her personal gain, there is even greater justification to thoroughly scrutinize every individual. It seems as though even the typically intelligent, conniving, and scheming characters are feigning ignorance in order to manipulate this particular group.

[@Vendetta419]

​@@zthemartian616 facts, the only two who could have saw this coming are Legion and Jamie Braddock but neither one of them are there.

[@Thoughtsrdeadly]

@@zthemartian616 Colossus is not being controlled by mental powers Sir his fate is being written without his control, also Rasputin reality warping powers don't work in that way

[@mjr8888]

I don't want them to go back to the mansion. Just let them get through this bullshit, please...

[@pjbrown4736]

There are heavy things going on between Immortal, Eponymous X-MEN and Mutant First Strike. So many pieces are being put in place. If this is the finally of everything Hickman and co. put forth, it's going to be a stunner.

[@drewtheunspoken3988]

This was a frustrating tead. Of course, it was meant to be. Gillen wanted you to feel what Piotr felt. What's weird is that he knows he's being controlled here but doesn't seem to know it in X-Force.

[@mharriedjr]

My guy I looooooove how this is playing out and your explanation and excitement!!!! I totally see how the greatest Days of Future past is about to play out

[@pjbrown4736]

Mikhail, Moira and Mother Righteous have it coming.

[@redmaxxs]

This feels like Overkill there's too many things coming for the mutants. When this is all said and done is there even to be a mutant left alive? It feels like every writer's coming for their throats. 😅

[@SamoaJoedabest]

And now… enter Doug Ramsey and krakoa!

[@RubeusArchos]

Waiting for mother rightsus to take a seat at quite the counsel.. it going to happen I feel. Beast going play big part in fall of x too

[@koozg7579]

And make it look easy!

[@antoniosmith7757]

I believe mother righteous will step in at the right moment and take advantage of this situation at the hellfire after this information is revealed.

[@richiepommells180]

Poor colossus no free will How will he get out of this jam My theory colossus needs his sister magik help

[@2ndPlacePrize]

Again? Please no

[@wakamoon1910]

I mean depending on what the nanomachines can do, magik might be compromised too.

[@solidice102]

I don't know conventions,but if you do come down to bluescon in Memphis in july

[@axelthouin4389]

clad too see selene back also happy too Exodus mocking Hope in the fact he cant do annithing if she dont reactive his powers

[@confidentmystic]

Selene can play nice and her logic to be on the council instead of Hope was logical.

[@Thoughtsrdeadly]

Selene is a whole problem 😜

[@confidentmystic]

@@Thoughtsrdeadly Mister Sinister and Shaw are a whole problem

[@jcgalliominaj17000]

I hope the writers gave Selene a proper storyline this time

[@16csterling1]

I thought mystique was immune to mind control, telepathy

[@octaviohernandez8107]

Not magic.

[@Trunicorn_sprinkles]

Lawd. Krakoa got a lot goin on 😩😩. Imma need these telepaths to get it together.

[@jackieanderson9408]

Sweet 🎂

[@Logan7281X]

'No one cares about the truth, when the lies are more delicious' Unfortunately, that's what's going on with Trump and this country.

[@thomasgiammarco2854]

I wonder if that is really Selene, or a minor shapeshifter like Copycat or Changling whom Shaw can more easily control.

[@hellblaze10]

They are making this too easy for the bad guys.

[@jasondavis2995]

Considering there is a bad guy pulling the strings of his brother who sits in the seat of power.... I just don't understand the lack of surface thought reading that doesn't go on. You're sitting in a room with about four or five psychics at any given time and none of them at least try to scan your surface thoughts to see why he's (Colossus) acting the way he is.

[@hellblaze10]

@@jasondavis2995 Exactly

[@jasondavis2995]

@@hellblaze10 that was a voice text that I just realized was a bit flawed

[@onyx081]

@@jasondavis2995 and not just any psychics, but literally some of the most powerful psychics on the planet. You would think that they would at least pick up a stray thought here or there. Everybody is busy pointing fingers at Storm for not being as attentive as she should, meanwhile you have all these omega level telepaths who aren't paying attention to what's going on around them either.

[@jasondavis2995]

@@onyx081 THANK YOU😭 Maybe Lactuca...... like c'mon. She's the KNOWER...🥴

[@SageOfLimitlessHands]

The issue with the framing of this story is that realistically it would end up where a minority has more sway than the majority at any time. It defeats the purpose of voting to begin with

[@BankkeyAoshi]

💪🏾💙

[@christopherbyrdakaSuperman]

Dammmn you have to feel terrible for the stuff Colosses is being put through, he lost Kate Pride in any romance, his own brother and sister have manipulated him time and time, he only want's what's best for mutantkind, poor Colosses just can't catch a break! For some reason one of the writers must have a miserable life and taking it out on our favorite X-MEN! Weel at least Domino was a positive thing in Colosses life, but now he's in a messed up spot with Krakoa!

[@confidentmystic]

Fall of 10 people on the Quiet Council?

[@LandofMert76]

As many times as Shaw and Piotr have fought, why does Piotr agree with anything Shaw does? Did they do a good job of Shaw convincing him?

[@kyleking8833]

Did u not watch the video?

[@LandofMert76]

@@kyleking8833 I did, and no where did I hear how decades of fighting was just ignored

[@casliveforir7507]

Well slavs DO tend to ruin everything

[@Thoughtsrdeadly]

Who would y'all suggest to replace the empty seats on the Council

[@onirepublikph1870]

I wonder if they will reintroduce Miss Sinister?

[@pierre0227]

I hope Destiny never thanks Mother Righteous.

[@mrj2654]

2:40 what is this?

[@lordm91]

Don't understand why Night crawler didn't just give his vote to Bishop because he has never been resurrected. Also with the advanced technology of the mutants storm couldn't have given her vote through a hologram? If that happened this would be a non issue.

[@zthemartian616]

Because Bishop isn't on the Quiet Council....

[@zthemartian616]

Because Bishop isn't on the Quiet Council....

[@solidice102]

For once I'm first at 45 sec

[@Khalil.is_here]

How does Colossus grow a beard over his metal skin?😳

[@zthemartian616]

His entire body turns to metal, not just his skin lol

[@Khalil.is_here]

@@zthemartian616 makes my point even more valid!

[@zthemartian616]

@@Khalil.is_here Lol fair response

[@Andre-n4d5v]

His hair was always metal so his beard will be too.

[@sunspot3020]

Where is Apocalypse

[@slf_rldtv4482]

It feels like everyone is so negative about the x men right now? It can’t be that bad, right?….right??

[@AtmosphereIVXX]

I’m not gonna lie I hate reading the colossus stuff. like the man is a slave/drone and he can’t do nothing about for like the past 4 years and not one person suspects a thing. Out everything from the House of X this the only on-going plot thats been annoying me and the cebero sword.

[@AtmosphereIVXX]

i just reread it Malikel is bout set everything up. Release the files at the gala, humans are gonna be pissed off, Orchis is gonna show their new mutant facility, A bunch of mutants are gonna get locked up at the gala. Next year Orchis is gonna have their verison of their gala showing off what they done, we gonna get a bunch of Orchis titles.

[@BaithNa]

I wish nothing but the worst for Mystique and Destiny because they are the most selfish characters in all of comics. They belong in the hole under Krakoa.

[@arthurjacksonjr6432]

Sebastian Shaw is also extremely selfish. He is extremely unconcerned about Orchis.

[@nanasworld1577]

Plus ultra??????? You gotta stop 😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄

[@erocknizzle2]

omg so annoyed you mentioned X-men 23 when I only read Immortal Xmen so far..... PLEASE STOP SPOILING THINGS. I want to subscribe but your thumbnails and titles of your videos spoil stuff for me allllllll the time.