Let’s Talk About The 4K Format…

I've got some more thoughts on 4K and what movies certain studios and boutique labels decide gets it. Does Box Office have anything to do with it? Does it really cost too much? Let's talk about it.
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[@bahet1061]

I like these rambling, unedited videos. It's cool to just hear your thoughts without trying too hard. You must realize that many viewers are coming here because they like you as a content creator. You are interesting and entertaining to watch.

[@midlevelmedia]

I was born a ramblin man

[@prentissweston5998]

Ever since 4ks came out I've been obsessed with 4k home viewing, 4ks is simply the ultimate best way to watch movies. The picture is 10 times sharper with Dolby Vision and the audio Dolby Atmos brings the film more to life, Blu-rays are second best but 4k is the ultimate way to watch movies at home 👊👊📽

[@bioshock6935]

That all depends on what films you watch as most of the films i like are 80's 90's and 4k isn't all that impressive tlike the modern films made today as old upscaled films are not true 4k and isn't that much difference from standard blu ray apart from a slight upgrade in colour and finer grain with a slight brightness increase . As for the price your paying the same amount of money for an old up scale film compared to a proper 4k film made today.

[@bloodydominations992]

Movies are the third highest seller on ebay and popular 4K releases sell out from pre orders alone. We won’t get everything we want, but it’s a great time to be a collector…

[@unclegaga365]

Put everything on 4k and take my money

[@midlevelmedia]

That’s what I’m talking about! Lol

[@994pt4]

Streaming SUCKS...most the films I want to watch I have to pay for. So I no longer use streaming service.

[@hunterdean4766]

Cereal at Midnight has done countless videos on this subject and interviewed many people who work at studios and boutique labels. It's very simple. 4k transfers are VERY expensive and it is very risky. If they don't think it's going to sell then they aren't going to risk it. 4ks are only 10-15% of sales so it is very risky.

[@PaulNaschy-bo7fu]

Yup. A little research goes a long way. This dude doesn't pay attention to anything insiders have to say and he makes a big deal out of the most minor inconveniences to stir up controversy and get more attention. The incessant complaining and misinformation purposely handed out only for his benefit has become extremely tiresome. Hopefully more people catch on to how lame it actually is.

[@Furudal]

Remember you have a vote, you vote with your wallet. If you buy mostly 4K, you encourage them to release more on 4K. Money talks, money is what they create about be it majors or boutique.

[@blackphilipalvarez1305]

Tell that to Disney.

[@michelle_pgh]

There's no one left at the studios who even have any idea what is in their catalog. They've all been replaced by younger corporate bean counters who know nothing about film or appealing to film fans. Even the people who knew dvd sales metrics are long gone now. That's why the boutique labels are cleaning their clocks.

[@chance2bk1ng]

Makes you wonder what it costs studios to put a movie on 4K...

[@AK12king]

Usually $100,000-$300,000 for a original negative remaster,that’s why they take so long in between

[@blackphilipalvarez1305]

Studios don’t really profit much, that’s why a greedy company like Disney doesn’t embrace it. They have always been hesitant about anything physical media and their releases were always over priced.

[@Sampson.entertainment]

Just to press a 4K disc cost $5, that doesn’t include the cost of special features or extras. A blu ray pressing cost $1.

[@richdickerson9590]

ALL the big physical media releases, including ones from many years ago, are sold out within days at the stores that sell them or the online retailers that sell them. Sometimes, they even sell out before the release date! So why don’t they make more?!

[@davidgolden1726]

It's a joke

[@chrisjfox8715]

Part of the reason they sell out is because of resellers buying up multiple copies solely for the sake of reselling them, which is inflated demand. And part of the reason why they don't sell more has to do with limited resources making economies of scale a challenge. There's hundreds and hundreds of movies out there but not but so many manufacturers to go around.

[@TheOriginalFuzz]

Great video Ken! Really enjoyed this one. I do agree the major studios could absolutely step up more on the 4K front if they really wanted to... and they could be making a killing if they handled it right (with promotional/ad campaigns, etc.). I tend to think they often just have people working there/running the show who don't know what they're doing... or at least, don't really have the kind of experience needed to be dealing with film distribution on home media.

[@TheNumbersGuy-bm6bt]

I'm not the type of person who needs every movie on 4k, yeah, there are some movies that I think deserve the 4K treatment (like all of Christopher Nolan's movies) but for the most part, I'm fine with just Blu Ray, 1080p is good enough for me. I will say this though, I will most likely get the 4K if it comes with a Blu Ray transfer that's exactly the same as the 4K disc (just downscaled to Blu Ray) and is exclusive to the 4K package (like most of Shout Factory's 4Ks)

[@vegetarey]

At this point all movies should be released in UHD Blu-Ray, in fact DVDs and Blu-Rays should have dissapeared a very long time ago. I mean DVD is 27 years old, with a 480p resolution, streaming, blu-ray, anything looks better than dvd Blu-Ray is 17 years old, 1080p resolution, which still looks good, but the 4K resolution looks way better and has been around for 10 years?? and the 4K Blu-Ray is 8 years old. I get it that DVD is still the best selling format, but feels weird that we keep relying on such old technologies and resolutions lol

[@dirigidoporJorge309]

Cinema will be always an social-cooperative experience, thats why

[@davidarmstrong7549]

Great video. We need more movies to be released on 4k blu-ray...especially from Disneys vaults!

[@garyrichardson475]

Vinegar Syndrome may get discounts on licensing fees in exchange for the restorations that they create. After VS does its limited run, the license holders can then sell to others with a clean restoration.

[@zolarwaka8576]

I imagine there’s a labyrinth of contracts between the studios and talent, producers, streaming providers, etc, that impact the profitability on each release. That, if true, would be the most determinative factor in this stuff.

[@patrickwilliams1801]

Good Morning Ken You are the physical 4K analyst of 2023, 2024. You said it perfectly. You have given us some insight on the studios laziness and the industry itself. There is no one like you on KZbin. The studios have products in- hand that they don’t care about. Some studios are sweeping 🧹 potential money under the carpet.

[@CatManKam]

In a perfect world every movie would get a 4K release, but not every movie needs it. I wouldn’t complain if everything had a 4K release. Haha What I hate more, which you have mentioned on various occasions including in this video, is when studios release a standard Blu-ray version and then a few months later, they announced the 4K version. It makes me a little apprehensive at times in regards to purchasing certain movies when they release because part of me is wondering if I just wait, I can pick up the 4K version later on down the line.

[@markpugh6808]

There are films and shows on dvd that never even made it to Blu Ray

[@michaelleblanc7974]

Great video. I agree with you on the entire topic. These studios either need to get educated as to what true film collectors want or license the titles out to others. Enough of this nonsense.

[@TheTylerpoe]

I watched No Country For Old Men a few days ago and was shocked to learn that it doesn’t have a 4k

[@stevenmackay8053]

And neither does There Will Be Blood or Children of Men. The latter is moist especially criminal. (Figuratively speaking.)

[@brunomachado7279]

​@@stevenmackay8053But there is Friday the 13th! No logic at all!

[@williamdriver1959]

@@brunomachado7279transfer may not be great but Friday the 13th deserves the 4k. I feel the ones mentioned here deserves it as well.

[@waxhand]

It's crazy how all these toy sales are getting lumped in with movies, for the studios it like hitting a jackpot with the multiplier.

[@sethm.woodiwiss786]

BIG TROUBLE in LITTLE CHINA 🇨🇳

[@wil89098]

Assault on Precinct 13 - I'll take any version.

[@marygirardin5300]

After getting all my favorite movies on, VHS, DVD, BlURay, and now 4K…. Tired

[@SlaughterCinema1]

I'm a collector that wants to own everything in the highest quality possible and I'm okay with paying a little more for that. Some collectors think Blu-ray is enough and just want to own their movies. We may disagree but at least we're all supporting physical media at the end of the day

[@chrisflynn9695]

If the movie is already shot and displayed in 4k, I'll never be convinced that it cost any additional money for a studio produce 4Ks. It's wild.

[@chrisjfox8715]

It does cost more time, money, and resources. Exactly how much more, I don't know, but once something's shot in 4K, there's still the effort it takes to supervise its encoding onto various formats...which technically *can* be done at the push of a button, but wouldn't yield the best results if you did so. Some of the worst 4K disc releases out there are because the people involved took the lazy route as to how they handled the encode.

[@chrisflynn9695]

@@chrisjfox8715 same thing with Blu-rays but obviously less money? It really does seem as if it would be as simple as it's a copy and paste job. Makes me appreciate certain movies now even more.

[@frommatorav1]

I understand it costs a percentage more for 4k disc production but they charge a little more for that version to make up the cost. 4k movies, even though it's a smaller percentage being purchased, gives prestige to a movie and gives consumers more choices. For me, if a movie I have to have is available on all formats, I'm buying 4k. If it's not, sometimes I just wait. I'm not the only one, so that means some sales are lost due to their decision for bluray only.

[@jfc6326]

I mostly get older movies shot on film 16 mm or 35. On disc in 4 k because they benefit most from the format.

[@pieterbalk-ht7kq]

I doubt many people with high end equipment can immediately spot the difference between a up scaled high quality blu ray and most 4K discs. Yes there are exceptions but honestly who will watch Kindergarten Cop or The Naked Gun on 4K in awe? It amazes me why studios spend money on a 4K transfer of those titles and there is no 4K release of Born On The 4th Of July, The Last Samurai, A Bridge Too Far, (the unbutchered) French Connection or Munich in sight.

[@4kfilms_canada]

Great video, totally agree with you! The odd thing to me is that the Beekeeper is also a MGM and WB film and it got a 4K, so it makes absolutely no sense that Challengers didn’t.

[@garyrichardson475]

Criterion’s Koyaanisqatsi Trilogy need 4K. Also, Samsara and Baraka. Anyone who knows these films will understand why they absolutely need 4K.

[@LilDew]

1:45 & 2:20 glad you had those disclaimers 😭

[@4KMediaGuy]

Lisa Frankenstein, thanksgiving were two movies I wanted on 4k

[@southendonseaarts]

The market has definitely changed over the last few years it’s more a collectors market, with emergence of more boutique labels who are doing restorations the major studio releases will get more of a pick-up recent examples Barbie and Oppenheimer which sold to a larger market. The bigger studios look at whether there is a large enough market for a 4k. I understand that an Atmos mix engineer can ramp costs for sound up to $10,000 for a theatrical physical media mix for just one film. Talking to a studio insider may reveal what strategy is used, I don’t believe it’s a random as you believe.

[@DBCooper31]

IMAX is only $20 where you live? Imagine paying LA prices 🤣 Definitely out of control as you said!

[@chrisjfox8715]

I've gone to see Oppenheimer and Tenet at the chinese theater in hollywood and it's "only" been $25 each time so not all that much more

[@DBCooper31]

@@chrisjfox8715 true, but when you’re paying for multiple people, or go several times a year, it adds up. City walk is usually $27 for real IMAX, which is understandable and really only incremental. But again, it all adds up and I was kind of being facetious 🤷‍♂️

[@JaketheSnakePlissken]

For me, like Ken said, older films have so much more potential for 4K than newer films so as a collector my interests are in those older film restorations. I did want Thanksgiving on 4K when it hit home media but it only got a Blu Ray but that Blu Ray looks great. I agree tho that if studios are unwilling to put any of their films old or new on 4K license it out to boutique labels 100%

[@vinvanveen]

I like my classic and foreign films on 4k. I don't particularly care about superhero or horror movies (most of them, anyway), but I'm super grateful to the fans of those genres for keeping the 4k format alive!

[@994pt4]

I'll take a 4K of any film if the price is right. However, I have recently returned to buying more blu-ray vs 4K now that 4K has gotten so expensive. The interesting thing is I don't really miss 4K for most films even on my 125 in. home theater screen. Blu-ray = cheaper = more films in my collection!

[@LaughMuBai]

There are many financial, licensing, approval, and marketing hurdles to release the 4K, which is presently a smaller catchment than Blu-ray or DVD, hence the variance, but wouldn't it be great to be a fly on the wall when decisions are made...

[@chrisjfox8715]

Exactly. There's variability in the decisions because there's variability in the market for 4K - our interest in it may be through the roof bit the numbers just aren't prominent enough to make the decision to go for it obvious for every business exec involved for every film. 4K licensing is literally separate and more expensive, not to mention the technical requirements of encoding something to disc *properly* if you want it done right.

[@jahdorose8659]

So true and I also believe it sometimes depends on how popular that movie or franchise is

[@jbainbridge22]

In my opinion it's extremely simple, 4K is the last real physical format we really need with most of the quality so high that the studious should put EVERYTHING on 4K if the source material allows for it and once it's done call it a day movie preserved, money earned and really don't have to do anything more with it ever again should the studio choose not to.

[@chrisjfox8715]

The market the boutique labels caters to is far more inclined to purchase obscure films and pay top dollar for them than the mainstream audiences that studios have to consider/think vicariously through. On top of VS releases being expensive (2 of which I own, with another couple on the way), they charge like $1000 for a subscription and there's people that pay it. Joe Schmo with a Netflix account that just so happens to love John Wick or Barbie may or may not be so inclined to pay $30 to buy Challengers. Some people will yes, but the investment in the 4K licensing and *proper* HDR encoding is at best a wait-and-see...from the standpoint of a studio exec. Some studios go for it and some don't because interest in 4K physical straddles the fence between having a lot of potential yet being a bit too niche for its own good. Some studios look at the numbers and just don't see a homerun so they get selective.

[@PaulNaschy-bo7fu]

Nice to see someone making some sense around here. Thank you.

[@midlevelmedia]

I would argue that Netflix Joe Schmo wouldn’t be paying for a Bluray either. So why do it at all then? I get what you’re saying and I agree in a way, but my point is the studios should be propping up their films and giving them better treatment to cater to the collector market that buy this stuff anyway. Otherwise step aside and license it to someone who will.

[@PaulNaschy-bo7fu]

@@midlevelmedia why do it at all if not on 4k? Is that a serious question? There are literally millions of regular "Netflix Joe Schmos" as you put it who have devices that play blu-ray and are way more likely to pick one up for a movie they liked a lot vs a 4k of the same movie. I know at least 10 people personally who don't collect heavily like us and mainly stream but still buy Blu-rays and DVD occasionally. You know how many of them buy 4k? Just one, and he's very selective about it due to Blu-ray and DVD being more affordable. 4K is a luxury product regardless if you agree or not. Even Blu-ray is a luxury product to an extent considering money is getting tight for a large majority of people. It's like no matter the reasoning and evidence supported by sales numbers you refuse to accept you might be wrong about something. It's called narcisism and entitlement. This is what happens when a narcissist discovers an ounce of popularity on the internet. All of a sudden they start pretending they know everything even though they're clearly talking out their ass and they think they're owed whatever they want. 🙄 It's honestly kind of sickening 🤮

[@midlevelmedia]

@@PaulNaschy-bo7fu Paul, obviously if we can only have a Blu-ray, I’d rather have that over nothing. That’s not really the point I’m trying to make. I just think these studios can and should do better when it comes to some of these releases. It’s clear we’re operating on two separate wave lengths though. 🤷‍♂️

[@PaulNaschy-bo7fu]

@@midlevelmedia Oh, we're definitely operating on different wavelengths. I don't act like a spoiled brat on the internet over luxury items and insist companies and the people that constantly do good work which I greatly appreciate need to "do better" because I know more than them or didn't get my way once in a while. It's genuinely shocking how entitled, narcissistic, and petty you are, and what's even worse is you're constantly trying to convince your audience that you're actually being noble and fighting for them. That's pretty manipulative of you when the truth is you simply use controversy to stir up views and comments in hopes of getting noticed and growing your channel. The wavelength you're "operating on" is toxic to the community and isn't doing any good for any single person. You're not creating change, you're just creating unnecessary drama amongst physical media collectors over things that really aren't that important. You're encouraging other entitled people to be mad at the companies and people still invested in providing us with physical media and you're perpetuating the "no 4k no buy", "no slip no dip" tribalism. It's very dissapointing and unfortunate how you choose to utilize your platform. If anyone needs to do better here it's you...

[@Ninjabadger76]

My physical journey was I had everything on dvd (yes im old) then upgraded almost everything (some weren't available) to blu because the quality difference was so much better. Next 4K comes along and yes it is better but I didn't think it was as big to my eyes as the jump from dvd to blu so I decided I would buy 4K if it met one of 2 criteria either it was something that I hadn't yet upgraded from dvd or it was something I feel is visually stunning enough to warrant a 4K (some Ive bought are Blade Runner Alien Total Recall etc) so when those come out (I have pre-ordered Twister steel book) I jump on em but don't feel I need everything because upgrading my whole vast collection would just be so expensive when Ive already done it once before.

[@blackphilipalvarez1305]

That freaking The Strangers Chapter 1 got a 4K release. I’ve owned every single format since the VHS days and yes I want the best available format everytime. Nothing against Blu Rays, the quality is still top notch, I kinda think comedy movies don’t necessarily need a 4K but I’m glad to see more getting released.

[@Evenifnot]

I don’t really care that comedies aren’t in 4K. I like my Big picture movies in 4k along with action sci-fi and fantasy. Everything else should be in Blu-ray at least by now. These movies get projections and that’s why they get 4k. Not sure how much they spend for projections but it must warrant a release of 4k

[@Zeldaboy2k2]

I agree, Ken. And I think studios forget that the millions of PS5 and Xbox players, are potential 4K movie customers as well. Plenty of ppl have machines that play 4K discs.

[@Rob-Davidson]

I think everything needs to be available on 4K

[@kman9387]

I have a home theater in my living room with a Sony laser protector and high end AVR with a Panasonic UB820. My screen is 120 inches and the difference between Blu-ray Ray and 4k is minimal on most films. I know that there are many 4k movies that are a step above, but as long as I get Atmos or DTSX I'm perfectly fine with Blu-ray. I can smell negative comments coming 😅 But for real, I played 2012 on 4k and compared it to my Blu-ray and it was very difficult to pinpoint a lot of improvements, other than the audio.

[@brunomachado7279]

You're absolutely right.

[@kman9387]

@@brunomachado7279 🙏

[@percybedford6266]

It seems that Sony and Warner tend to put their recent releases on 4k right away, where as Universal tends to put most of their recent stuff on 4k and tends to wait awhile on other stuff to release on 4k. The Last Voyage of Demeter needs to come out on 4k for example. Lionsgate also tends to put all of their recent releases on 4k as well.

[@nicodimus2222]

I've heard people (new collectors, usually) say that they will only ever buy 4K movies. No blu-ray at all. I mean, I guess you *could* do that, but you're going to miss out on a TON of great movies if you do. I love 4K, but about 75% of my collection is blu-ray.because it is still a high quality way to experience movies at home, and many titles will never be on 4K so there's no point in waiting on them. Don't let ultra snobbery deprive you of owning great movies.

[@NmDPlm31]

It’s not snobbery. It’s wanting to avoid the issue of having to rebuy a title in a year when the studio surprises everyone with a 4K. I remember Arrow doing Robocop in blu, then the crying and gnashing of teeth when they announced the 4K. This guy waited and didn’t have to double dip. The trick is figuring out which ones will get those later releases and those you can safely buy on blu knowing the chances of a 4K are almost nothing. First Omen doesn’t get a 4K but Kino is doing a 4K of Can’t Stop The Music? Really? There’s just no rhyme nor reason.

[@brunomachado7279]

​@@NmDPlm31The problema is, most times we don't know when and if this 4k upgrade is coming. It can take a month, a year, it can take years or never come. I love "Le samourai". If I hadn't bought the blu ray back in 2017 I would have waited 7 years for an upgrade.

[@NmDPlm31]

@@brunomachado7279 There's some truth there. We do never know. That's part of the problem. But Le Samourai is a tad different because in 2017 Criterion wasn't even releasing 4k discs yet, and there was no way of knowing if they actually would start doing them. They could have remained a Blu only outfit.

[@brunomachado7279]

​@@NmDPlm31 sure! It was just an example, perhaps not the best one. But the fact is: we don't know! Só let's enjoy what we have!

[@robsavage3217]

The major studios probably don't think this way but when it comes to their catalog titles, there should be an emphasis on releases that really need to be remastered. I have recently revisited some of my favorite Blu-rays and have noticed quite a range in quality. Some have excellent transfers and hold up quite well in that format (although I would still upgrade those films to 4K if I could). Others aren't nearly as good and cry out for a new remastered edition in 4K.

[@Soonersin85]

Ken, great video. Just some questions loosely related. 1. Why has there not been an “affordable” 4k player been available? I get that the disc sizes are bigger and Atmos and Dolby Vision decoders,I would assume, aren’t cheap. I don’t begin to understand the inner workings of the players. But, I know that blu-ray players have become extremely affordable. I appreciate the Magnatar and Reavon players, but those are way out of my price range. I do currently have an X800 Sony 4k player, but it’s getting older and I would love to have a “fresh” player for my medium sized collection of 4k’s. 2. What exactly goes into a restoration? Is it time consuming or is it a speedy process? Are blank 4k discs expensive? Surely the big studios get a cut rate deal on wholesale discs. 3. Why do studios hold on to titles if they’re not going to do anything with them? Hy not license out your whole catalog to whoever wants them and just sit back and watch the cash roll in?

[@Sampson.entertainment]

The Beekeeper was from MGM, which is owned by Amazon.

[@JerrisonOracion]

Since that you said that, "Challengers", is an MGM film, maybe there will be a Criterion Collection edition of it. Maybe also a Criterion Collection edition of, "American Fiction." The Criterion Collection did release some of the Amazon Prime Video films recently including, "Sound of Metal", and, "One Night in Miami", as well as, "Nanny."

[@BUTT-HEAD666]

Everything should get a 4k release Ken including tv shows

[@timothymathetes]

There are so many thoughts on this topic that I don't know what to say really. I think people are now in the habit of staying home because of the pandemic years. And the fact that theaters are so expensive and there isn't a long wait for the home media release like there used to be makes things easier to see at home. Therefore I think many things should be in 4k. But, also most current movies are awful.

[@JoshTaylor-sx4yb]

Thank you. For letting me know.

[@4KMediaGuy]

Being that 4k is the last format I enjoy buying the movie knowing I never have to upgrade it anymore in the future. They need to get rid of Dvd and keep just blu ray and 4k at this point

[@Lozin80]

My strategy has been the same since I first went 4K back in July 2016 and since then I will only purchase new titles on 4K only. I have no problem purchasing catalog titles on Blu-ray but not new releases. If there is no 4K release then I skip the Blu-ray and just purchase it on digital when on sale of $9.99 or less which is always in 4K and just roll with that until/if a 4K Blu-ray is released and if not then no big deal.

[@jjchmiel78]

Rich people corporate math is the problem. It's not their money they are losing, they just like the power and promise investors the world to get their money. And it works! When it doesn't, they get their golden parachutes. They fail to realize $1 profit is better than 100s of millions in loses every year.

[@GraceLifeMinistries]

Pride and prejudice would look gorgeous in 4K!

[@MrEdWeirdoShow]

There's only one Challengers for me - something based on DC's Challengers Of The Unknown by the king of comics Jack Kirby.

[@kyleanderik6627]

Get AMC a list. $23 a month and you can watch 3 movies a week. Any format Any AMC theater

[@ShanGamer1981]

I get 4k on new releases and movies i watch a lot. Lot i have gotten lately never owned in any format.

[@space0998]

I get that DVD outsells everything, but it seems like there are more DVDs on then shelf than anything else these days. My local Walmart is a joke for physical media. A few DVDs littered on perpetually empty racks

[@blackphilipalvarez1305]

Go to any store that sells entertainment products where you can sell or trade. Probably like 80% of their products is DVDs and CDs, even vinyl. The shelves for Blu Ray and 4K are very minimal. These stores know what sells and DVDs are still in demand.

[@bigmoviefreak]

Greed. It's always greed. Margins are better on Blu-rays and DVDs because they're cheaper to make, they're priced close to 4Ks, and more people are buying them than 4Ks. To the studio execs, they just take the easy money and make their quota for the year, because they don't know if they're going to be employed for another year, so who cares about the long term.

[@iloveblue7920]

This is on blu ray, maybe steelbook too, saw this in Central London years ago, needs a 4k upgrade Mars Attacks, Ken do you want this?

[@CryWolf-sm9iw]

Killers of the Flower Moon is one I’d like to see but it doesn’t look like that’s ever going to happen. I mean I’m not paying for AppleTV just to watch this movie. I like to physically hold my movie. I’m old school. And when your 4K tv is calibrated correctly, you will see a world of difference between 4K and HD.

[@user-ve1lz9dm6j]

Why Apple tv and Netflix do not support physical media Ken ? Could you shed some light on this ? CODA won the Oscar for best picture and .I own an Italian edition of that movie on 4k (legal edition) but I think it is the only edition of CODA on the planet ?

[@chrisjfox8715]

Streaming services are apprehensive to release their films/shows on physical because they don't want to cannibalize their streaming subs. Yes, we provide a market for them to release physical to that will either stream also or won't stream regardless, but they'll nonetheless be touchy about it because it's risky for them to choose which titles of theirs are worth the effort. In their mind... If they blindly release nearly everything on physical also, then they run the risk of people getting hip to the idea of not having to bother subscribing. If they only release their most popular movies/shows on physical, same concern. Which only leaves them the options of either not bothering at all, or being incredibly selective about which ones deserve the effort. Hence with the latter, the sweet spot amongst all the concerns above is to only release a handful of mid-popular things...if for no other reason than the cold hard fact that people willing to sub far outnumbers those of us willing to buy a disc.

[@user-ve1lz9dm6j]

@@chrisjfox8715 I think you are right. Thank you so very much for your answer.

[@williamdriver1959]

The first omen may not need a 4 k but I want it and every release on 4k

[@IwantMOOREDemi]

It takes a lot of money to remaster a film. Even for Blu-ray. It's a expensive and time intensive process. This is why I think some movies will never get a 4K release. Just the cost of remastering in 4K and you have to remember that studios set aside budgets for what movies will be released in Blu-ray or 4K. There are still movies that are on DVD that are not on Blu-ray so not every movie gets that. There are movies that are VHS 📼 only to this day. No DVD or Blu-ray release.

[@ricanman85]

I want every movie in HDR and Dolby Atmos/DTS-X, simple as that

[@musicman8270]

Sometimes a bluray is so good that a 4k just isn't nessesary. My bootleg of True Lies on bluray was so good that I almost didn't buy the 4k. But I did and the difference was slight. The problem was that the bluray rollout was hit and miss. And a lot of people thought that DVD was good enough. But while 4k is a must for really huge releases for a lot of legacy stuff bluray is fine. I would be happy if a lot of titles (Xena, Buffy the Vampire slayer) were simply released on bluray.I understand that that can't happen sometimes because of the problem with special effects. But a lot of times bluray will be enough

[@DevilFan669]

Like we need everything’s to be in 4k and question is is 4K really worth the money when they are so expensive and how long can 4k last too that’s an another question for us?

[@michaeldee3380]

DVDs should have been phased out as soon as the first 4Ks became available. This would have allowed for just two formats to co-exist. Now there are three formats available in addition to streaming making 4K a niche product. I still don't understand why people are still buying DVDs.

[@blackphilipalvarez1305]

DVDs will never die because they outsell Blu Ray and 4K easily and are still in high demand. Perhaps do some research before posting this kinda comment.

[@wil89098]

blu-ray might die, but not DVD. cost is the reason.

[@CaptainSplatch]

I would like to watch Challengers. I don’t get to go to the theaters I value my home theater and collection. I don’t spend money on new releases unless it’s on 4k. So maybe I’ll catch it on streaming one day when they could have sod a 4k to me easily.

[@metalgrinch]

You know what movie im actually ANNOYED is coming to 4k? The "Rocky Ultimate Knockout Collection," featuring all the films on the regular Knockout Collection but also V and Balboa. Especially considering I literally JUST bought the Knockout Collection on eBay and get an email from Gruv saying the new Ultimate Knockout Collection on 4k is coming out July 18th!! Im surprised Ken hasn't done a video on that yet... unless I missed it.

[@patricklena9062]

Kenny, when are you gonna learn to sneak your own snacks into the movie theater and save that extra forty dollar cost

[@midlevelmedia]

I do that by myself, but my family is too extra for that. Lol

[@brunomachado7279]

Sure, in an ideal world everything should come to 4k. But we all know physical media is giving its last breaths. So I think more asthetic driven films should get 4k. For instance, I love "All about eve". But is it a film thar screams 4k? Do we need it on 4k? No, it's a dialogue driven film and the blu ray is more than enough.

[@jad7306]

I want a 4k of everything

[@Noone-wt5rx]

I think it does come down to the studios I also think eventually everything will come to 4k but we should have options cause I understand some people don't care for 4k but as long as there's a physical copie personally I'm good with that

[@RyanBetker]

I agree

[@josecuevas-nh2oq]

What shelving do you use

[@corradoparris9679]

Why are they releasing Jaws3 & Jaws 4 the Revenge in 4K in France on July 26 2024 and not in the states. Also Born on the 4th of July on July 2nd???

[@tomboling2309]

The reason why 4ks are Behind the DVDs & bluray's on the sales charts. Is bc the studios & small labels have not surported the 4k or the bluray format like they did with the DVD format. And if the studios & the small labels would have surported the 4k & bluray format. By now we would only have blurays & 4k format in 2024 & DVDs would have been phase out by now most likely. And the whole situation with what films gets a bluray only releaes & no 4k releaes. The best way to fix that is not to release everything on 4k. But the studios should ask the customers in a weekly poll vote. And ask would you surport & buy this film on 4k or just release the film on bluray only. By doing it this way the studios would know if a film has enough surport to releaes it on 4k & not be losing money on a film that got a 4k releaes that nobody hardly bought. Bc not every film needs a 4k releaes. But as long the film gets a good bluray releaes. This would help the studios pick & choose witch titles would sell & witch titles would not sell well enough to be released on 4k but be released on bluray

[@021om6]

I want all catalogue movies on 4k I don't care for any movies on 4k after 2010

[@jcanada9405]

My overall opinion remains the same as it has for some time. 4k restorations are more important than actual 4k disc releases. However, if they are gonna do a 4k restoration, then it silly not to put it on 4k disc for collectors that want that full experience. Fire in the Sky is the prefect example. Amazing looking blu-ray of a 4k restoration that didn't get a 4k disc. Makes no sense...and always put out both 4k and blu-ray together!

[@LuniMW]

Imaginary is getting a 4k release but only in Italy and Eagle Pictures releasing it. Whet it comes to other stuff you pointed out I think it is all fault of streaming. Studios like Disney, Amazon/MGM, Apple invested millions in their streaming infrastructure and they all want best possible quality to be only available via their shitty streaming services which is ofc very disappointing.

[@KirkRedgate]

No, don’t give everything to Kino because we in the UK have to import them lol. I only have 4 Kino releases.

[@midlevelmedia]

Kino and Eureka. Happy now? Lol

[@jfc6326]

I bet it gets a DV on apple iTunes and guess what when it hits the magic number of 4.99 I will get it all movies shot in digital look good. On apple and there's hardly a difference to disc in newer movies

[@skywalkerranch]

We need What about Bob on blu ray, never mind 4k.

[@iloveblue7920]

Ken, Ken just seen your rant, why oh why when you were ending the video did you not mention Arrow, like wake up will ya, recently i got the Arrow version of a Fish Called Wanda( prefer the original artwork from the past, great remaster .

[@JoshTaylor-sx4yb]

Hi ken. Do you think we will have star trek movies in 4k

[@midlevelmedia]

They’re all in 4K already man. Check Amazon.

[@Graphicxtras1]

I would probably buy the 4K+Blu-rays more if they were closer in price to the blu-rays, for me blu-rays still win out with quality / price. Would I love to see everything come out in 4K, probably, but blu-ray is a fine enough format for me with a 40 inch 4K TV (and one without any great sound features) that I will generally be sticking with that. If I like a film, I am happy to go with the DVD if there is no blu-ray or 4K (or even VHS). Only moan about the blu-rays being regions, really wish they would bring it out in region free especially if it is a film that is unlikely to ever be picked up by a US (or vica versa) European, why limit it to a single market when it probably will never get a release in another region anyway Isn't unedited / rambling videos the new format for youtube now, though saying that, I have always released my youtube videos as unedited as possible, hate all the fast cutting retention style stuff.

[@randybradley4151]

Honestly think that many of the boutique blu-rays and 4K UHD Blu-rays are garbage movies. Sure some might be cult classics but for myself they are not worth the price of admission.

[@pieeater4877]

Waiting and waiting and still waiting for TROY to be released in 4K

[@midlevelmedia]

Warner Bros should jump on that this year

[@peppersmith]

Naw, Not everything need to be in 4k. Like older films i'll take a very good made Blu then 4k. Like She's gotta hav it or Under the Cherry Moon. Two B&W movies that i like dt really really need 4k.. Just remaster the picture and upgrade the sound. I'm good...I'm a retired IMAX Projectionist. So, now i only go the movies for only Big films only. Like Godzilla or Sci-Fi action. Well, i go for Free and yet i still dt go - lol....

[@Solidus2]

Madam web theatrical release sales vs 4k sales nough said

[@midlevelmedia]

That’s a prime example.

[@wil89098]

where's BTILC on 4k? Does anyone like Daniel Day-Lewis on 4k? Talking about which movies get 4ks - what is going on with Kino Lorber 4k movie selection? Can't Stop the Music, The General's Daughter, And Soon the Darkness / Sudden Terro, Bad Boys 1983 and Cannibal Apocalyps - REALLY. So you are telling me that you can't find better movies in the Paramount archives.

[@strangertony1108]

Give me more PTA on 4k please

[@mynock250]

Challengers is a dopey movie, find it in the Walmart discount bin in a year for 5 bucks. Some of you just don’t get it smh.

[@midlevelmedia]

Sounds like an opinion and the cool thing about the movie community is everyone has a different one.