Let's Talk Janome vs Juki HD Machines - With Kelley Rao

[@nakshipolly5666]

What is the name and model of your sewing machine? Can this sewing machine use free thread?

[@sewkelley]

this machine is Juki 8700, which is an industrial dress making machine. Not sure what free thread is.

[@MsHighpeaks]

Gosh making me dizzy!!! But good content. Thank you

[@barbaramcinnis7906]

No contest. I have both machines. Juki outstanding for fmq. Janome not a patch on it. Juki came with a walking foot plus other feet. The demonstrator is downplaying the Juki for reasons best known to herself. Foot cutter on Juki is great. Can use the one on the machine if one prefers. Stitch quality also better on Juki and it’s fast fast fast when you need it.

[@sewkelley]

Not really down playing, just providing information so people can decide for themselves. I have two 2010Qs and the HD9. They are comparable.

[@speedbully_84]

Yes. It's much cheaper, comes with more accessories, an extension table, it's more quiet, has a higher foot lift, better cutter and the newer juki TL-18qvp (which competes with janome more directly when it comes to age and prize) also has a microlifter. The only thing I see right away that is better on Janome is the light. But for the added prize on the janome you could buy a separate light for the juki. Thicker thread might be an other win for janome, but I haven't got enough information on that point myself.

[@practicallyperfect2941]

It’s her opinion….. that’s what video reviewers do - they give their opinion!

[@colettedegroot3874]

Would have liked to see a free motion comparison. I have a Janome 1600P (very similar to the HD) and it free motions nicer even than my long arm. And the space underneath the machine where the lighting is located is actually called the Harp.

[@peterbrunphotography5021]

For around $1000 less I’ll take the Juki 2010

[@sewkelley]

They are very similar. But I do like that the HD can take heavier thread than my Juki2010Q. I use soft polyester thread (Selric) on it and it sews beautifully.

[@allison5789]

Hi, what do you think of the Juki TL-18QVP Haruka Sewing Machine in comparison to the Janome HD9? They seem more similar.

[@cleathercrafts]

Fantastic comparison, it's just what I was looking for- specifically the leather sewing test! That's really helped. Thank you!:)

[@cleathercrafts]

How are you finding it now for the leather, more than a year on?:)

[@denisebooth866]

Wow. I would have expected the Juki to work the best on the leather. Learn something new every day 😁🌷

[@seasons0123]

I was looking for vidoes on HD5000 and came across this one. Doh.. I thought my machine was tough. Wow.

[@dcwatashi]

You can get a table top tripod for your camera it was very difficult to see what you were doing and I’m sure it was difficult for you to have to hold the camera

[@maryadams6139]

Thanks so much for doing this comparison. What industrial machine do you usually use? I'm trying to decide whether to finally just get an industrial machine.

[@sewkelley]

I normally use a Juki 8700 and Juki 1541.

[@gloriabonham5661]

I have the Juki and super happy with it! Thanks for the video.

[@sewkelley]

There are many similarities!

[@carolinebizzell5974]

Leather four fold didn’t sound good on the hd9

[@jaykay643]

This is fantastic. I wondered how much these machines could take. That way you have an idea how hard your project is on it...and how long it may last. Seems the HD9 has more power but also far more expensive....in Canada anyway.

[@Tree60HandcraftedDesigns]

Because of the $1000 price difference between the two in Canada, I just ordered the Juki TL-18 QVP and I'm excitedly waiting for its arrival.

[@barbaramcinnis7906]

Hi Kelley, Thankyou so much for your response to my comment re the two machines. I can only speak as I find and maybe - like autos- identical machines tho made in the same factory and on the same day do not always perform the same. My janome sits on a table - unused. Frankly a waste of money and when I contacted my dealer after having the machine for two weeks - to use as it as trade in . .I was shocked by how little he offered me for it. Juki and Bernina were easier to sell he said. Altho my Janome looks more elegant and has more bells and whistles it does not compare with the juki IMHO as far as performance is concerned and I cannot pretend otherwise. Sorry if this hurts some feelings but that how it is - for me.

[@sewkelley]

I appreciate your feedback and input! What a shame your dealer would not take back at full price given you only had 2 weeks.

[@barbaramcinnis7906]

@@sewkelley I know Kelley. . I thought so too. Really shocked me. But I did make enquiries with other dealers and received similar response.Was offered £400 (UK) as top offer. As a trade in. Not cash. Must admit the Janome is a beautiful looking machine which is what attracted me in the first place but it just doesn't do what the Juki does for me. Or my 30 year old Bernina 1230. Sorry to disappoint prospective Janome buyers with my comments but I must speak as I find.

[@sunseekerrs3087]

barbara mcInnis I'm a quilter but would like to upgrade my machine (I have a Brother I bought at Walmart many years ago). Would you recommend Bernina or Juki to be able to do everything in quilting like piecing, free-motion quilting, etc? I really want a workhorse, something that's reliable, and doesn't have to be computerized or a ton of stitches. I may be asking for a lot though.

[@practicallyperfect2941]

Do you still not like your HD9? What didn’t you like? Looking for a new machine and it’s top of my list but only by watching videos as I haven’t been able to test any.

[@lenore2944]

Hi Kelley, I am curious how the Juki did on 2 layers of leather. Thank you. I am contemplating purchasing the Juki. I currently use a Pfaff 7550 with dual feed but the machine is struggling and many dealers will no longer fix them.

[@sewkelley]

I'd equate the Juki 2010Q to a low powered Juki 8700. Neither are really meant to sew leather. The HD9 would be more suitable, given it can handle thicker threads.

[@tossedsalad1532]

So lad to see this. I just bought the Janome HD9 on the recommendation of a sales associate at my local dealer as I know VERY little about sewing machines. I bought it because i collect antique firearms and the leather holsters are typically impossible to find so I wanted to make my own reproductions. Seeing the HD9 handle leather brings a bit of relief to me.

[@sewkelley]

Are you still loving your HD9?

[@tossedsalad1532]

@@sewkelley Yes! I have been surprised with what all it will power through. Not long ago I used it to sew a holster out of some pretty thick veg tan leather!

[@carolinebizzell5974]

That didn’t sound good on the leather.

[@sewkelley]

I did oil her; hoping she'll sound better next time!

[@Tree60HandcraftedDesigns]

I have been trying to decide between the Janome HD9 and the Juki TL-18 QVP and because of the Juki being $1000 cheaper (in Canada), I have ordered the Juki and I'm excitedly waiting for it to arrive in a week!

[@margiebrincheski4293]

which machine did you decide on? I am struggling with this same issue. IDK if the Janome HD9 is worth >$1000 difference

[@Brandi62]

Love the butterflies on your Juki!

[@karenmaz8480]

Hello- this is a great comparison. Would you know how the Juki QVP18 and Janome HD9 compare? They’re at the same price point now.

[@sewkelley]

I would not. But I think I answered you in my group, in that if you have space for a real industrial, buy that instead (it's less money, too)

[@jaywinters2483]

Juki needs a more powerful motor

[@stephanniemetz3610]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and opinions!

[@MrKentKee]

How high us the foot lift of the HD9? Thanks. I can't seem to find this information.

[@sewkelley]

Not big enough! That's the only thing I don't like about it. I'd say maybe 3/4"? I am going to see if my machine tech can adjust to make it higher,

[@lenore2944]

I am looking to purchase a straight stitch machine. How does the Juki 2010q compare to your Juki ddl8700. Thank you

[@sewkelley]

If you have the space, hands down 8700 is the best.

[@zamoneffect9347]

I like my HD9 however my bobbin case does not seem to work every time I load it !!! its very frustrating not sure what I am doing wrong 😖.. I make leather bags and having to load the bobbin case as instructed in the Manuel does not seem to work for me... not sure what I am doing wrong?? its not rocket science😖for the money you pay it should be slightly easier😖..I am about to give up!!😒

[@sewkelley]

Don’t give up! You should insert, twist a little and feel a pop. Then you know it is in correctly.

[@dorajvargas2270]

Hey do you know where i can find some of the different feet? i am have trouble with that

[@sewkelley]

You'll find most high shank feet for a single needle machine will work just fine. I like Cutex Sewing Supplies feet and Sewing Machine Plus.

[@homelyheart]

I’m not happy with my Juki 2010 after owning HD Janomes. Selling it and getting the HD9, my original choice!

[@sewkelley]

Did you get your HD9? It's a nice machine. Wish the presser foot lift was higher.

[@homelyheart]

Kelley Rao Yes I did! Absolutely love it! But yes crazy they didn’t make it like the Janome 6700P (my other incredible lovely machine) that has the second level of super height and stays up there without holding it. But yes, HD9 kicks absolute botbot! Now to get the extra feet I need $$$$$$ 😅

[@homelyheart]

Kelley Rao Also thank you so very much for making this video, it really was what cemented my decision! 💝

[@deike9361]

Why didn’t u like the juki?

[@marcelacroft1802]

I’m so glad I found your video review. I’m between these 2 machine. 🤗 Thank You

[@margarethaaudrey7070]

is janome HD9 is almost as good as an industrial machine? it will getting tired when you use it too often or too long? thank you.. because I want to buy one for making a dog accessories

[@sewkelley]

It's a solid machine. Can't really compare to a Industrial since the motors are different -- everything! I think it will be just fine for dog accessories.

[@amariiah]

What’s the highest Tex number bonded nylon and bonded polyester thread the juki can take? And the highest needle size? Tia

[@sewkelley]

www.janome.com/siteassets/products/machines/sewing/hd9-professional/extranet/inst-book-hd9.pdf See page 32

[@S.F.L]

Great review Kelley, thank you.

[@darlenelevesque2261]

The hd9 look like it ran smoother when pulling the fabric through but louder

[@campbellps55]

Watching this now

[@tamaragraham2692]

I have a Singer Patchwork and am looking for a machine to do complete quilting - up to a king size. Which do you think would be a better choice? I honestly don't plan to do more than bags and quilting, but one never knows!

[@sewkelley]

Tamara Graham I dont quilt on these machines myself. I know the 2010q has an add on specifically for quilting.

[@catalanottos]

where are you located? trying to get one from uk but voltage is different from usa. my husband can add a higher voltage plug wanted to know if you did the same?

[@sewkelley]

I am in the US (AZ).

[@bookbeing]

The presser foot lift height is a game changer.

[@evelynbaezlindecamp2074]

Hi there, what thread and needle type and size do you use on the juki 2010q for bag marking? Thank you.

[@sewkelley]

I use HLX5/100 and soft polyester thread (Selric)

[@lindawheeler9450]

I have the H do you nine and Lovett have not use the thicker thread would like to try it do I need to change the tension

[@sewkelley]

I don't recall changing the tension, but you do thread it differently than regular thread (guide and instruction book is very helpful)

[@sabrinacharette6357]

Are you using 69 thread in both machines?

[@sewkelley]

Yes, in this demo both machines had Selric #69 (non bonded).

[@newnormal1841]

Why can we just have a machine that does everything ? 🤺💐

[@sewkelley]

I agree!!

[@irynadrobot6453]

I like this machine, thanks for your review! I sew clothes (from silk clothes to wool coats) and do not need quilting but I like the idea of this machine. I just love straight stitch. Would you say it's worth?

[@sewkelley]

I think you'd do fine with the 2010Q for what you wish to sew. Anything more heavy duty and consider the HD9.

[@irynadrobot6453]

@@sewkelley thank you:) 😊

[@deike9361]

Thank you for an awesome video! I to love craft sewing retreats

[@starkseys5070]

I’m just curious if the Juki 2010q and Janome HD9 feet are interchangeable

[@sewkelley]

Yes they are!

[@starkseys5070]

Oh perfect! Thank you 😊

[@michaeltexeira6185]

First. The Janome is faster ,,speed. Large bobbin,,means more thread. The Janome pressure foot lifts higher than the JUKI. Better lighting,,,use this trick when sewing Vinyl and Leather. ,,rub a little sewing machine oil on them and the machine will sew easier,,,any machine.

[@sewkelley]

Thanks for the tip, Michael!

[@fayeehlis854]

Thank you Kelley! A very good demo!!

[@debrat777]

Thank you

[@sewkelley]

You're welcome

[@povitrjulka]

Thank you very much for such a helpful video. It was very useful to see as I am hesitating between two of these models. Could this be possible to see the maximum stitch length for the Janome machine - is it 5mm or 6mm? And if possible - are Juki presser foot (say straight stitch regular one) compatible with the Janome machine? Thanks

[@sewkelley]

The machines are in storage at the moment, but as I recall, they had similar SL. The presser feet are standard for either machine. If your budget permits, I’d go HD9.

[@povitrjulka]

@@sewkelley Many thanks. Ordered HD9. 😊

[@MrTalnoy]

6 mm max SL on the HD9

[@MrTalnoy]

6 mm max SL on the HD9

[@carolinebrooke4502]

Thanks so much for doing this video. It's helped me a lot to make my decision!

[@gigivh9178]

Hi, beautiful machines, but how much do they actually weight each?

[@sewkelley]

I think the 2010Q weighs about 40 lbs and the other possibly 50. Not really something you can stick in an overhead bin.

[@cherenalee4957]

As of December 2021, the HD9 is 32lbs.

[@martylittle5540]

Juki looks like it's struggling a little. 😐

[@sewkelley]

She does OK. I think if anyone is truly looking for a sturdy machine, they should save their money and get an industrial. The difference is night and day!

[@Melissabarelyhere]

Yes!!! I’ve been looking for this kinda video

[@natbell5782]

Hello, could you tell me how much the presser foot lifts at the maximum of the janome Hd9 please? Thanks.

[@sewkelley]

I believe it is close to 1/2'"

[@roxannericchio3556]

Are you using a heavier thread in the HD9?

[@sewkelley]

Yes, I believe it was a #69 bonded nyon.

[@MsMarlysRae]

Excellent comparison video!

[@madebydaj]

Did you end up testing them out with the proper needles and thread for the leather? If so how did the sew

[@showkat__kashmiri]

How much HD9 and juki Price

[@scottyhaines4226]

HD9 is about 2,000 and 2010Q is 1,000

[@sewkelley]

@@scottyhaines4226 you can get the HD9 for about $1300 and the 2010Q for about $750

[@rosabayhan810]

How much is the Hd9

[@sewkelley]

About $1300

[@galiastoianova9235]

Dear Kelley, Thank You very much for this video. It's very very helpful for my choice. But may I ask You about the noise- Janome HD9 is noisier than Juki 2010, did I understand rightly? I have Janome 423S and it's very noisy.

[@sewkelley]

Its been a long time since I’ve seen my vid. As I recall, they were equally noisy. The noise itself woukd not be a deterning factor for me.

[@galiastoianova9235]

@@sewkelley , thank You very much!

[@elhpasu]

HOw does the Janome 2000 air serger compare to Juki 2000 serger?

[@sewkelley]

I can't comment as I don't own either.

[@Yasir_Awan]

Janome is the best brand I like janome .

[@raggedyanna6-Missy]

Would you use it for everyday sewing?

[@sewkelley]

Sure!

[@raggedyanna6-Missy]

Are you still loving it?

[@sewkelley]

@@raggedyanna6-Missy I honestly use it for retreats; but it's a solid, beautiful machine.

[@JodyFord]

Helpful, Thank you !

[@pauletteweisenberg9465]

Kelley - which industrial machine do you use at home when making your bags?

[@sewkelley]

Juki 8700 85% and Juki 1541 15%

[@glendaknight3936]

Where do you get your beautiful bag hardware

[@sewkelley]

So many places! Fireweedstitches.com has beautiful things, love Bringberry.com, too. Ning Hardware (HI) also terrific!

[@kjfmkh1205]

هل هذه المكائن موجودة في العراق اين العنوان وكم سعرها

[@sewkelley]

I wish Google would translate.

[@peterwrigley1434]

I can't make my mind up as to which one of these to get. I mostly sew pouches and stuff sacks out of technical waterproof fabric (X-Pac, DCF). Funnily enough the hf9 is about $400 cheaper than the Juki here in Australia.

[@sewkelley]

I'd get the HD9 as it can use heavier weight thread.

[@angelaconnolly7086]

I only use one type of thread. Guterman Mara 70. Do you think the hd9 will be any better than the Juki?

[@lw7967]

I use heavier thread in my Juki. I can actually use #10 crochet thread in mine. (adjust tensions, #18 needle) I didn't know I wasn't supposed to use the thread cutter on it. Oops! Seemed to handle it well though. My Juki does everything if you have the correct needle for the job. I use only Microtex needles. I also have a Janome 1600P. It will skip stitches on thicker fabrics. I would not give up my Juki for anything but I do love my Janomes too.

[@Hippyjeepy]

@@lw7967 may I enquire which Juki model do you use?

[@dcwatashi]

Recording videos is definitely difficult but you do have a habit of smacking your lips which is a little bit offputting

[@benoitpiernot]

Hello Kelley, thank you very much for your video ! I am currently trying to decide between the two machines. One question I haven't found much information on is if the Juki takes heavier weight threads ? I see the Janome has a special way to thread thicker threads and wondering if the Juki works on thicker threads as well. Many thanks and happiest new year !

[@benoitpiernot]

Looks like I found my answer looking at some responses you gave in previous comments ! I was hoping for a Juki but looks like it'll be a Janome. Again, a million thank yous for this video.

[@samreynolds3789]

COMPARED TO JANOMME 5000 , is the HD 9 STRONGER ?

[@sewkelley]

Not familiar with Janome 5000, unfortunately.

[@yuliaodnosteblitsa2176]

Hi, could I ask you what is the distance from the working platform to the head of the machines? In this video it looks like Janome has a bigger distance. I find that the head in my old Janome is very low and makes it harder to sew bags. I can’t decide which machine to buy...pity that Janome has no extension table as it more expensive in Sweden :-(

[@sewkelley]

The machines are stored away at the moment, but I do believe the HD9 had a bigger throat. I can fit my table from by 2010 on it! I have seen tables for the HD9 for sale, but yes, expensive.