Let's Try: Old World - Lead an Epic Dynasty!

[@BlackMethos]

That looks quite interesting. I'd like to see a series of this at some point.

[@wersande1454]

Same

[@chasedettman8960]

Same

[@ft.238]

Same

[@xhonkeri4066]

Same

[@DrakoFira]

Same.

[@jakelogan2342]

CK2 meets Civ? Sign me up and take my money already!

[@user-qq5pj6zw7c]

Can't wait for CK3

[@Priyo866]

This year is going to be amazing for gaming. CK3, TLoU2, Bannerlord full release later on, Cyberpunk 2077... Gotta build up hardware.

[@nerobernardino88]

And a lot of freetime due to a certain pandemic.

[@Ycekhold]

It's an Epic exclusive for an entire year, so they won't be taking a red cent from me for a while.

[@BarcelPL]

Salt gives culture? Well played, game.

[@Dolphinjamm]

Salt was Considered A Luxury in the Past, So It Makes Sence

[@maxliu7576]

Dolphinjamm YT Capitalizing Every Word in a Sentence, for Some Reason

[@geemcspankinson]

@@maxliu7576 Ain't It Cool Though?

[@the_matad0r342]

Sometimes autocorrect decides you want to capitalize every word. I’ve had it happen a few times.

[@maxliu7576]

The_Matad0r Autocorrect would not allow “sence”

[@alan2142]

Yes!!!! A new game!!!! Means a new SERIES!!!!

[@lilschlagen]

Alexander was actually historically tutored in philosophy by Aristotle. Philip was a very smart tactician but valued philosophy and governance a little more than the military. Philip ended up teaching him military stuff on the side and Alexander was just a natural and it clicked.

[@Garsemor]

When you said you don't know what the best build order is reguarding tech. A reliable "best" build isn't even necessarily possible, with the way you draw tech cards. So you can't even reliable get the tech you want in the order you want. Also, from what I've seen, using your starting warrior to scout is a good idea, because your orders don't carry over between turns, so by not moving him early on, you end up just wasting orders.

[@peterstatsenko9866]

True and not, as unused orders get turned into money.

[@sandwichittoo6755]

So...if you have no successors, you get game over? Or is it like EUIV where there is a Regency council?

[@sandwichittoo6755]

Why is everyone liking? I need answers!

[@Dolphinjamm]

I will Guess Yes

[@rivopoiss1]

@@sandwichittoo6755 Apple pie is very good, i hope that you like this answer o/

[@callidusvulpes5556]

@@rivopoiss1 I concur. Apple pie is very good.

[@leorex8130]

@@callidusvulpes5556 Apple pie is indeed really good.

[@IAmBael]

CK2 + Civ is a very interesting concept. I'm glad Pravus was chosen to give us a sneak peek, he's well researched, very articulate and definitely one of my favourites to listen to.

[@richardgonzalez6409]

this is the game i wanted Civ VI to be, and i love every second of it!

[@Maxi-xy4ku]

I dont even need notifications, it just pops up in my recommended, damn KZbin is getting smarter

[@KenhelExcallius]

Same lol

[@chasedettman8960]

Subscribe to him then!

[@Dolphinjamm]

Cekrid, Imma Tell you something Get up off your Ass and Help

[@KreweHunter]

Between Civilization, Humankind and Old World im starting to feel spoiled!

[@gegiaalexandru9092]

I would like to see a series on this game

[@TheScoutnation]

well maybe if it goes onto steam

[@spunj]

CIV-like game with individual characters? A pleasant surprise.

[@andrewsercer9538]

Aha! this is the first video I've watched from you! I must say ... based on the half-dozen other youtubers who have produced Old World videos that I've watched --- so far you have done the best job playing and explaining the game. So yeah, you've earned a new sub/viewer!

[@nadavsagir8354]

Athens? Why not Pella? would make more sense considering that he is playing as the macedonians... The League of Corinth was the closest thing the ancient world had to a united greek state. Macedon was at the head of it and Philip II was its founder and first leader. Pella was the Macedonian capital, and by extension, the league's capital, so it makes much more sense for Pella to be the capital in the game. 18:30 sparta was never apart of the league of corinth or under the control of any other unified greek state, sparta should not be a city name for greece. 26:30 Alexandria is a thing before alexander conquers egypt lol. Of course this isn't Pravus's fault but just some historical inaccuracies and inconsistencies from the game. I know most people don't care about this stuff but as a history enthusiast I notice these things and they annoy me. Other than that this looks like a really fun game and would like you to play more of it. (perhaps when its no longer early access)

[@samuelblackmore272]

Perhaps the starting city's name is based on the great family you chose? Though that doesn't match with having Philip being able to found Athens at all, maybe if you chose the leader from a sub-section of a major civilisation such as Greek -->Philip/Pella? Though i don't know how that would or could change gameplay.

[@nadavsagir8354]

@@samuelblackmore272 Maybe at the setup you could select different starting leaders for every country, and every leader has different traits for different gameplay. In the case of greece maybe selecting leaders from different city states would determine the starting capital, and for Rome for example most leaders will have Rome as the capital, but other later emperors could have a capital city to match their time. The name of the capital is just a name, of course, and doesn't matter for the game, but as I said maybe selecting different starting leaders could give different starting buffs depending on their traits.

[@lilschlagen]

Completely agree. As soon as I saw it my first thought was that the Athenians didn't even consider Macedon to be Greek by culture. They spoke the language so they weren't barbarians but they weren't accepted throughout the rest of the islands. Philip kind of forced them to acknowledge him as a ruler but not as a kinsman.

[@ryanpruner1853]

ok who cares lol

[@nadavsagir8354]

@@ryanpruner1853 I said in my original comment that most people don't care. Besides, this is an historically based strategy video game meaning a significant portion of the target demographic are people that do care.

[@Sigrid_Von_Sincluster]

this looks promesing the only worry i have as of seeing this is the AI spowning a bunch of troops out of there ass (as you can see in this vid) but that can be fixed, i think bouth the player and the AI should not be capable of spowing soooooo many troops out of thin air at the end of the turn no matter how many resurse you spend extra, it should be limited at 1 unit / town for the extra resurses spent, no more

[@rlrstrong]

A lot of the leader bonuses you haven't taken are only applied if you turn that character into a Governor, by the way. So the Affable trait, for example, is +2 Growth in a city if you take that trait and turn that character into a city's Governor

[@RhombonianKnight]

Praise Pravus! Taking Alexandria and Alexander was brilliant!

[@catheriner6890]

Alexandre the great attaking Alexandria... interresting

[@juanlucas5649]

Been playing it for the last week. It is amazing. The potential is great and it is a very fun game to play as it is now, even as an early access.

[@wollyram6248]

Alexander was tutored by Aristotle, I wonder if there are any easter eggs for sending him to learn philosophy.

[@johnnyattack]

This is like the game made out of one of my wish lists on various civ forums. Take my money.

[@ZeroEternity]

U should turn this into a series it’s like civilization but a fun twist it looks interesting

[@indie5499]

Lumbermills are unlocked from a tech I believe. I've been watching Quill play his own game and I'm learning little bits from you too!

[@Godishus]

It's called forestry I believe.. think it's a tier 3 tech, so it takes a bit to get there.

[@bubbas9945]

So civilization + Crusader Kings = old world

[@Vixalvy]

Due to my opinion that the civilization franchise is dying, this would be a great successor.

[@catherineconlon453]

Is it?

[@kaz1145]

Well your "opinion" is very wrong seeing as Civ 6 has sold 6 million copies. Try doing a simple search next time.

[@Vixalvy]

Kaz opinions are opinions chief

[@Jonathanizer]

@@Vixalvy opinions can still be wrong, even if they are just opinions.

[@jordankrstic9799]

Civ 6 is so bad compared to civ 5

[@christopherg2347]

The Dynasty and major family mechanic seems similar to Imperator: Rome. But I think it is more a case of indepdant development. That part where you have several production resources but can still only build one thing is indeed interesting. I can not remember a game that was similar.

[@christopherg2347]

The order and production system means that wars are going to be very "total" affairs. You do not have queue slots or orders to keep investing a lot into building up.

[@christopherg2347]

28:00 Maybe if you had properly encirceled the city, he would have been unable to spawn the units right there? They would have needed to build them next town over and then also spend orders moving them.

[@christopherg2347]

The war and Settlement mechanic reminds me of 40k Gladius: Relics of War. The settlement sites there are also limited (and different for each species). And wars are fought by throwing waves of units at them, with walking times being a very important factor

[@christopherg2347]

As the enemy can easily attack you from beyond your sight range, I guess it is important to have a "defensive position" at the end of turn. I am asuming there is some way in wich nearby units can buff one another. Formations. Secure flanks. That sort of thing. Raising units locally seems rather important, as that means you can spend less orders on moving and more on attack/raising.

[@christopherg2347]

That fighting you do west of alexandria - between the sea and the mountains - is kinda like Themopylae. Phalanxes were a unit of extremes: Really good fighting frontal while in formation. Really uselss if flanked or the formation was disrupted. Unfortunately, the water and mountains prevent flanking. Just like Thermopylae. I am betting they have menchanics in the game to give the phalanx units the appropirate edge.

[@jakublederer1257]

28:41 Ah yes, a disorganized rabble of Greek warriors charge the Egyptian phalanx.

[@pandaman7022]

I love that it seems the first thing you do as Alexander is go to war with Egypt

[@tinapedro1387]

Let’s get a series of this

[@the-gari]

Seems like a pretty promising game. Please play more

[@darthbader6506]

Great intro Pravus, would love to see you playing some more of this as it develops

[@waynepennachi7346]

Please continue. This looks cool!

[@monochromeslave]

One thing sure to make a mockery of any turn based system is excessive movement distances. GalCiv2 fell into a similar trap.

[@johanness.nielsen3552]

I like that the baby pictures look like it was taken directly from "The Incredibles"

[@Priyo866]

This game looks awesome. So much potential.

[@Thomas-jc3bv]

This would make a good series IMO

[@ParkeraNZ]

Love the concept of this game and a nice mix of some classic games.

[@jantala3243]

Can we have a series please?

[@adammaxi]

would love to see a serie on this game :D i really like it

[@LoneBlack007]

Finally, a more serious game than Civilization. I mean civ 6 is okay, but it got so childish with its looks. This one seems to be more serious. Thanks for showing it to us Pravus!

[@jordankrstic9799]

Civ 5 was so much better, I hate civ 6 I play 5 minutes and have to turn it off

[@keifferhayes646]

I want to see more of this game looks so good.

[@rhysbevan429]

"Oh well, there's a lot to learn in this game...HEY GOATS!"

[@Ghost12314]

Peals make this a series.😃😃😃

[@nickblack3901]

The capital of the Macedonians was called Pella, not Athens

[@DrinkyMcBeer]

The Civ is listed as the Greeks, ruled by Philip. I think the problem is that Greece is ruled by Philip of Macedon, rather than having Athens as it's capitol.

[@jessel3621]

Phillip II was the first leader of a united Greece.

[@DrinkyMcBeer]

@@jessel3621 the Greeks wouldnt think that. They were invading macedons. They might have been the first to unite the greeks, but it done as a foreign invader.

[@jessel3621]

@@DrinkyMcBeer true. The current Greece in the game is a combination of Macedonia and Greece (Greek cities, Greek and Macedonian unique units, Macedonian leaders). Maybe future expansions for the game will add Macedonia as a new civilization. Combining the 2 is a bit like combining Sweden and Finland into 1 civilization. It sort of makes sense, but they could be split up.

[@saqui2281]

This would be a very cool series and i think this is a neat game.and as a fan of civ games I'm intrested in playing it myself.

[@diegollorente1137]

Could you do a series?

[@ilsopravvissuto6860]

How dare you ? This is amazing I want more

[@cannonfodder902]

A series would be great

[@bobsmith7066]

I would love to see an LP of this.

[@dragos1239]

When Pravus looses even in normal dificulty, that is a hard game.

[@Kevin.E.]

Fast forward instead Jump Cut please..

[@09blackcobaltss]

im glad this is early access cause man i am getting stomped as well on lower difficulties. I had a awesome economy but no units to protect it and for some reason the Ai can just mass spam units and seems to not have a down side for them. I even tried to be friendly to most of the Ai but its impossible to keep they happy if you dont have the right traits at the right event. I hope this will be balanced out when its out of Early access.

[@Legion_of_Dragons]

Can you make Old world a series after Kaiserreich? I think it would be a enjoyable series to watch.

[@KingTrustedNoob]

Make this a series please ❤️

[@fdm077]

@17:19 his worker just walked on water. Me: I just found God. God: Naniii?

[@ibnbattuta7031]

MAGNIFICENT!

[@ibnbattuta7031]

so... CK2 had a lovechild with Civ?

[@wabbitlord9564]

Anyone else find it funny that he was attacking Alexandria as Alexander the Great?

[@autemsicarius]

This is a pretty cool game

[@augustopinochet6899]

10:17 Ok king Arthur

[@sovietkermit5076]

Can you do a series on a country in hoi4 where it mainly focuses on naval dominance?

[@wersande1454]

Praise Pravus

[@Tntdruid]

I dont like Epic Store, hope they sell it somewhere else soon.

[@AspectDuck]

I’m getting some Catan vibes for some reason from the hexes

[@gym7144]

Yea, I might have to buy this game lol.

[@leontarkostas5768]

I live very close to the Haliacmon River in Greece. Athens is not near it by the way😂😂😂😂😂

[@lachlansanders7550]

Hahah mount ararat 😂 I litterly grew up under a mount ararat but mines was in western vic Australia

[@alternativezetton6167]

the capital is named Athen, seriously?

[@MrSHADOWANGEL999]

time for some good old fashioned... IMPERIALISM

[@Noahdecamps]

crusader kings 2 x imperator rome x civilization = old world

[@pureevil29]

Looks fun but no multiplayer?

[@Dunkle0steus]

It looks like they're going with the Civ style of world wonder in this game. That's fine I guess, but I kind of wish they went a different direction with it. There're a lot of mechanics here that diverge from the Civ style (in a very refreshing way). One difference here is that wonders seem to require resources, which is something Civ should've done anyway, but it still looks like everyone gets the chance to build a wonder and whoever builds it first gets it. That style of wonder is getting tiresom, imo. I would prefer a system where each wonder had very specific or strange requirements to be built, such that most players wouldn't even be allowed to try, or going for one would preclude you from picking up another. But I think you shouldn't be locked out of building one simply because someone else on the other side of the world built one first. Maybe the first player to build it gets cultural bonuses or fame or something, but a lighthouse is still a lighthouse. It still has a maritime function. Just because someone else built a giant lighthouse shouldn't mean I can't also build one. With that said, each wonder should get a completely different look for each civ type. Maybe they even get different stats for different players. I just like the idea that you can build something unique to your culture without worrying about some dip stick you haven't met building it first. "Pack it in guys! We just heard the Persians built an acropolis!" "But sir, we only have 1 more brick to lay!" "Sorry guys, start tearing it down!" smh

[@whitelessII]

Huh, this games looks interesting.. "It's on the Tencent china launcher" ... you know what.. I'm good thanks.

[@Paytologist]

Good job with this one!

[@PewPew1234567]

So is this gonna be like the new civ games, where half of the map is empty?

[@stefandjordjevic6883]

I need this

[@davidbadikyan1132]

I am curious. Will there be Armenia as a playable nation in this game?

[@dragonplayer5257]

more!

[@Chatz.]

It is like saying john johny

[@Just_Shrimps]

so its civ + crus + total war threesome? awesome

[@robertbailey1994]

Plssss continue thissss

[@beerman5931]

17:19 I've found Jesus!

[@musAKulture]

looks like sangokushi 10+11

[@geto6242]

Elements of Civ, Crusader Kings and Imperator (I think). I'm excited!

[@Chatz.]

We dont have such a name in greece but it might be Anita in greek.Ανιτα not Ανιτε

[@DaveyW]

Yaaaay

[@RealSkoolmaster]

Game: *looks interesting* Me: *notices epic exclusive* Well... load up the cannons boys

[@KenhelExcallius]

Im a simple man, I get bored and youtube recommended this to me and i click

[@lanceleonard4422]

MORE

[@blackscorpion1899]

It's me, it's cool being one of the firsts.

[@manny1084]

Anyone else thinks this guy is graystillplays twin 😂

[@RealSkoolmaster]

its just Grays son ;)

[@cringeworthygameplay5903]

Sick game

[@cuonghoang2243]

love it

[@janpanek6284]

Epicfail exclusive? Thanks, but no thanks.

[@gcp8892]

It's Epic games Game so epic games don't say old map they say old World so this is old fortnite map

[@fiora5852]

All hail to the Qing

[@KingsSpear4690]

Yay. Another EG. Not. Will not support EGS.

[@kaif8281]

neat