Let's Watch - Animal Wars (A CHAOTIC Furry Mess)

[@ryansmodernlife.]

The "if you can ready this youre probably jewish" is a spaceballs reference where at the end of the credits it says "if you can read this you don't need glasses". Spaceballs did it better imo

[@peterkrochmalni673]

“We Brake for Nobody”

[@lindsayberry-gibson4391]

I thought that too, until later into the vid where they uh. Did the. ONE scene. Now my eyeballs burn. From the racism. They do Mel Brooks a dirty.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

I don’t know, in terms of audience trolling that Hebrew/jewish joke is kind of funny

[@mckenzie.latham91]

@@peterkrochmalni673 That Ship was also too damn big, if anyone had walked along it, the movie would have been over.

[@peterkrochmalni673]

@@mckenzie.latham91 it’s not just a ship, it’s a Transformer.

[@joshuagoforth1658]

4:40 saber: “why is it in Hebrew?” Shrek: “good question!”

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

**Russian

[@fugyfruit]

@@DistractedGlobeGuy ***Hebrew

[@Vaffle_1231]

@@fugyfruit ****Rushbrew

[@adam.n-steve]

@@Vaffle_1231 *****Rusputin

[@idolevin8795]

@@DistractedGlobeGuy also they misspelt "game" and "will rule"

[@dr.velious5411]

As utterly bizarre as this is, I feel like the animators were, if not proud to work on it, they were at least having fun with it.

[@voidwalkerbruh7426]

With the reference in it and the messing around with the foxy at the start almost definitely

[@thesabzin]

Also, I *immediately* knew this was post-Soviet, not even by the "post-collapse" animation style seen in early 2000's (tied to the downfall of Soviet animation; CDI Zelda and Mario were created by such castaway animators, and it is comparable), but by one specific gag. You see, when Bear imagines his future in prison as a "flamboyant gay" trope, he becomes a rooster. Or a "petukh" in Russian. "Petukh" in prison slang means exactly that - a man participating in soap-dropping-without-any-soap throughout his entire sentence. EDIT: the producer, as shown in the credits, is googlable. It is Yuri Volodarskii (spelling may differ), born in Odessa, Ukrainian SSR. From 1984 to 1996 he produced the comic group "Maski" (The Masks), which were EXTREMELY popular in both Russia and Ukraine. The fact that he is from Odessa explains so many nods to Jewish stuff - as Odessa has a prominent and vibrant Jewish community immortalized in post-Soviet folklore and anecdotes.

[@PHDDude13]

Who knew a random animated furry movie was so educational

[@Mer.Saloon]

So the Jewish jokes are in-jokes?

[@Skullkaiser]

@@Mer.Saloon Yes

[@coolboyyo654]

that instantly explains so much

[@creamgravy1]

@@Mer.Saloon Weirdly enough I got that feel from it when saw it more than anti-sematic. (Probably cause I would had done the same in some way)

[@jbleichman]

Animator: So, which gag should we use in this scene… Director: Yes. Animator: Yes? Director: Yes. Use gags. Animator: But which one? Director: Yes. Exactly.

[@AnikMonette]

It feels like an animated Monthy Python sketch made by Bevanfield that drags for over an hour.

[@AnikMonette]

With a severe case of ADHD!😅

[@Robotneonunicorn]

This looks like one of those early pc kids games that you click around on everything and have super simple animations

[@IsaoSoichiro]

I didn't think of that, but now that's all I'm seeing lol

[@theretardking]

It's does look like something that Vinny from Vinesauce would play for his Edutainment streams.

[@2doot]

That's exactly what I was thinking

[@Xxmagic.city777xX]

​@@2doot OMG HI

[@MariekeLisette]

Yeah, it really does

[@waltervoidbringer4491]

That tall croco guy is lowkey badass. 57:06 look at him. That's pure fucking dedication to kick some ass

[@beauwalker9820]

That bit is a reference to Terminator 2 when the liquid metal T-1000 gets frozen. It wasn't too gruesome on a liquid metal robot, but on a cartoon gator seems pretty messed up.

[@HelpICantThinkOfACleverName]

This movie is like severe ADHD meets an acid trip. It's absolutely bonkers as f**king hell!

[@ArbiterofTruth]

I have ADHD and my mind is more focused than this heaping pile!

[@HelpICantThinkOfACleverName]

@@ArbiterofTruth Yeah, I have ADHD too, and can't focus for sh!t sometimes, and this was a bit too much, even for me. At least the movie is funny as a result of the absolute chaos. Easily could have draaaaaaaaaaagged.

[@michaelbullen3104]

It’s hell all right

[@funnyhappystudios]

10:17 That *”No! NO!”* sound was perfect timing

[@dinogeek9085]

The Star Wars furry trilogy looks hype

[@bearerofbadnews1375]

Better than sequel trilogy. Low hanging fruit I know.

[@Vulpes_Ailurus]

I love that the aspect of it being a Star Wars parody pretty much begins and ends with it having an opening crawl.

[@Lexivor]

The Bear did use a lighsaber in one scene.

[@angrybidoof847]

Love the chat exploding to tell Saber that it was obviously Hebrew

[@reesewackes3810]

I legit thought it was an alien language they made up at first

[@SW1TCHED-CHANNELS]

I thought it was indian for a second-

[@AnikMonette]

I didn't recognize the hebrew but I knew it wasn't a text in Cyrillic.

[@hydroxan1508]

I can't believe it managed to get worse and worse 😭😭😭 Also, just like you said at 10:16, like half of the movie is straight from DA. Seriously, someone behind the scenes had one hell of a kink.

[@thesabzin]

"It looks Russian" while looking at Hebrew. My sides. I think I have to postpone this vod, because I'm dying here

[@mckenzie.latham91]

The film is russian made, but yeah that scroll text was hebrew.

[@gantzisballs]

Our Saber is not exactly an expert in languages. So, he can't tell Hebrew writing from Cyrillic. Even though they are not closely related languages.

[@metalslayer777]

@@mckenzie.latham91 it was ukrainian made, by Odessa Film Studio.

[@OakNuggins]

Really dunno why this is so funny to people. "Native english speaker can't read hebrew." Uh... No shit?...

[@LadyBern]

It's been a long long time since anything made my jaw drop in pure aghast. Like nothing in the shock humor of today's adult animation has come remotely close.

[@FastTquick]

Watching this film felt like a fever dream. And of course, it wouldn’t be an anthro/furry-themed film without a hot, sexy fox character too.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

Or Rishi

[@Lucien86]

The fox was about the only character in the whole film who didn't make me want to tear my eyeballs out.

[@Calmislanddragon]

This feels like a third act stretched into an entire movie.

[@1perspective286]

I commented this elsewhere, but the whole movie is just the island of Naboombu scene from "Bedknobs and Broomsticks".

[@grogg4372]

I can't believe it, after so many years I have finally found it. I watched this when I was like, 5, all of it, on TV. My whole life I've been wondering if this was just a fever dream I had. I thought this movie was so fucking disgusting for some reason yet remember way too much of it, the memories just came flooding back one by one, each with the force of an anvil. That burger cows scene scarred me so much that I'm sure it's left an actual physical imprint on my brain. Thank you Saber for bringing my favourite childhood nighmares back from the deepest darkes recesses of post-Soviet furry hell.

[@boomerdwight4560]

The fox was the puppet master and pretty much sneakily helped the Ed Bear escape. What I wanna know is if she was really a twin she is deviously sly and good but the entire show was truly an experience.

[@cdcdrr]

I am... amazed. This has some truly galaxy-brain references to American sport and culture, despite coming from the post-Soviet east. Space Balls, Michael Jackson, McDonalds, American Football player puns, Terminator 2. Only ten years after the fall of the Iron Curtain. I could have sworn this was made in the USA. No joke, I actually admire the lengths the writing team went to in order to make this.

[@nickrustyson8124]

The writers must've went on a binge after the wall fell

[@MadNinjaGirl]

@@nickrustyson8124 contrary to popular belief, american movies were not uncommon in the soviet union pre-iron curtain fall. they were not sanctioned, but bootleg copies of musical albums, movies, casette tapes, etc were highly popular and widely distributed among the underground circles and rebellious youths. soviet Iron curtain was not the same as n. korean iron curtain, but you could get in trouble for owning and/or distributing unsanctioned material.

[@joshuagoforth1658]

I made the very right and very wrong decision to watch this stoned (edit: ok wow I promised myself I wouldn’t cry *tears up* thank you all for helping me achieve one of my goals in life of having a comment get at least 1000 likes (my goals range from small like that to essentially just bucket list stuff I have very little to be happy about 😅 so I take small victories where I can but this is something I really wanted for a long time it’s minor sure but it just gives me hope for my channel when I finally start it up again if I can get 1000 likes on this silly comment I can at least get a 1000 followers so thank you all for making my day and remember drugs are bad but weed is goooood lol 😝 also yes I’m stoned again but I wanted to be honest and thank everyone for making this happen you’re all amazing people you’re breathtaking 🥰

[@j3tts0n65]

Same 😂

[@keithhall3927]

We should start a comment smoke circle lol

[@manowa3395]

Ayo? I got flower and a runtz dispo, what are y'all smoking?

[@wesleyboi2000]

Just started the video sober, but I'm pausing it at the beginning to get baked now

[@MintyFreshCupcakes]

Yo shit me too

[@HydraSpectre1138]

This film was pure chaos, but the foxy lady really is a waifu.

[@clayton_rose]

No art though

[@GetDougDimmadomed]

@@clayton_rose Yet. Give it a few days.

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

I am surprised there is not more R34 of her.

[@clayton_rose]

@@SwiftNimblefoot pretty sure there’s none. Of the whole film

[@stevenv2190]

@@clayton_rose Rule 35 and 36 apply to this.

[@LadyKorralynnLorelaie]

Saber, that warthog with the lunch is like Cabbage Merchant levels of hilarious.

[@Ratc0nic]

4:11 The way Saberspark took two L’s back to back split my sides.

[@Inukyo13]

Foxy lady is a capricious deity, manipulating everything for just her own amusement. She trolled them and us all.

[@gdnowl]

You just unlocked an old memory of mine. My family had this movie recorded along with other films on VHS tapes.

[@ItzPxdu]

The amount of times I SCREAMED "GODZILLA vs. Bambi" was INTERFERING lol

[@zubzero304050]

Watching this gave me heart palpitations it felt like it was both taking forever and at the same time going too fast to even make sense

[@minimalbstolerance8113]

I unironically find watching this approximately eighty-three thousand times more entertaining than watching an actual American Football game.

[@thelearningmethod]

Good for you

[@geoffreyentwistle8176]

I can't decide which is worse, personally: the crushing boredom of actual football, or this ocular fever dream... Though, then again, I've watched the entirety of the fever dream... 😂

[@Manawolfman]

So the end song seems to suggest the fox gal was helping Bear escape and prove his innocence.

[@Kadukunahaluu]

Wasn't she also the one who coaxed the cheater guy to frame him?

[@ChaoticJester]

​@@KadukunahaluuKnock-Off Andross did that so his team could win.

[@derekstein6193]

25:20 They are investi-gators.

[@wattsink2009]

29:04 Mad Hatter: “Mustard?! Well that’s just silly! Lemon, that’s different.”

[@Razgriz85]

That scene with the bear in tactical gear and the 4 shot rocket launcher is a Commando reference. The animation style and colors remind me of kids games from the 90s. I'm also seeing a lot of influence or references to the soccer scene in the Bedknobs and Broomsticks movie.

[@MidgarMerc]

I believe the commercial at 30:00 is a reference to the 3 Tenors (Pavarotti, Domingo and Carreras). They're singing an opera and there's even a "big lady" carrying the beer. I believe they were featured occasionally or at least referenced a lot in commercials in the 90s. They bear a resemblance to them (especially Pavarotti) and it would explain why they're randomly humans.

[@angrybidoof847]

Clocked Pavarotti but wasn't sure of the other two. Cheers

[@ruzi.the.spider]

I was looking for someone commenting on it. Yes it's the 3 sopranos.

[@newguy371]

@@ruzi.the.spider 3 Tenors. The ad is a reference to the different Budweiser commercials at the time.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

This film is a trip...I also really love the Saber and Rishi react animations.

[@dudemcduder1628]

I find it so funny that in the Godzilla section, the scene he was looking gor was just straight up a scene from the movie

[@jag2583]

I love the best thing after watching this with y'all in the stream, is Saber telling Rishi, "Suffer.. " after saying "why did you make me watch this? 😭" soo hilarious🤣🤣🤣

[@bobbynick5358]

At 44:09 When Saberspark said butt, it's their Lips that distracted me not their butts, because how it changes way off colors in frames. Like seeing Shaggy in a Scooby Doo episode being Blonde for 1-2 frames.

[@tessicat]

So my bf and I once had the discussion about whether mayo on the ass was the grossest condiment option sexually, and we both landed on the decision that mustard would be grosser (because of the mess), and now we joke about it constantly. So we lost it at the mustard on the butt part, like it's a real thing?????

[@Kadukunahaluu]

I think any condiment on any ass would be equally as gross

[@SeeSarahSaw]

29:35 Those three guys in the beer commercial are the Three Tenors: Luciano Pavarotti, Plácido Domingo, and José Carreras. Very famous opera singers who formed a trio in the 90s and I believe opened a World Cup. Since then, Pavarotti has passed, Domingo was outed as a s*x pest, and Carreras is...still existing, I guess. lol

[@mathieuleader8601]

this feels like this sporting event could coexist in the Tom and Jerry Kids universe given the artstyle and particularly the bright colours.

[@SikuIceWolf]

1:13:13 That's the first time i've heard Saber bring up MXC ever. I loved that show growing up lol

[@queas]

I’m still pretty sure Marv Newland did it first. It’s Bambi meets Godzilla. Everything else is a reference including the Godzilla ad. Marv’s film released in April 1969 and Python didn’t drop until October. Gilliam may have even seen Bambi meets Godzilla at an animation festival and still would have had plenty of time to animate his version. It’s not as obscure a reference as you might think. Marv has taught a LOT of animators, including myself, so there’s even a chance he taught someone who worked on this.

[@newguy371]

I didn't realize the short was that old. My dad has it on VHS with a bunch of other shorts released by Pyramid Films.

[@eitrtine3448]

I'm literally cackling over the timing at the end of this Saber: "Where the fuck is she?" Notification: "We come from the mayors"

[@L.Pondera]

This was made in the year 2000. The load of references makes perfect sense.

[@epaomirimiri]

I'm actually enjoying this a lot more than I expected to, a few minutes in. Several of the jokes and visual gags have actually made me laugh.

[@Cheshire_Cat137]

I feel like every time nowadays Saber watches something remotely furry, he gets Rishi to watch it with him so she can out furry him for the video.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

And it’s glorious.

[@NathanATaylor]

11:25 ok this whole sequence is really funny

[@rougarou8439]

You can always tell when a straight furry works on a cartoon 😂

[@0tterhead]

With the way the lion was animated in the beginning I beg to differ!

[@rougarou8439]

@@0tterhead you right you right

[@minimalbstolerance8113]

@@0tterhead The entire time that lion was homoerotically posing, I was hearing the Pillar Men theme...

[@yankoelgueta1116]

A straight furry doesnt exist

[@rougarou8439]

@@yankoelgueta1116 very true!

[@zarielin8110]

The animation and colors remind me of the old point and click desktop computer games. I keep expecting the animation to stop so you can play a mini game, or find a bunch of random stuff to solve a puzzle.

[@barrycreation6476]

I feel like this movie might’ve been trying to have one of those stories where everything barely connects, only to have are minds blown once we find out who/what was behind all the unexplained stuff. However, the events in this movie are too random to be able to contain every explanation within an after credits runtime.

[@chaos4654]

The Fox lady's bonus scenes gave me Doctor Who vibes. 😂 One character was revealed to have been behind a lot of the Doctor's successes. Though, i wonder if the Bear guy and Fox lady are friends?

[@geardog24]

I don't think this is the sequel to Animalympics we asked for.

[@zbcrazy]

Also I just need to point out something from the Ed Bear check: I work in fraud prevention at a bank. I literally see that same font on fraudulent checks every day.

[@TPCjr]

42:35 A Big Lipped Alligator Moment.

[@drbiohazmat]

"that was Zilla." THANK YOU Genuinely love when people know the difference

[@D03H03]

The. . . difference? XD

[@kishinasura1989]

I loved the movie

[@t.p.3456]

I thought of Godzilla vs. Bambi. You need the splat sound as the foot comes down for it to count a Monty Python.

[@peterkrochmalni673]

“And now for something completely different.”

[@Hyper_Drud]

I think that musical number ending was like one of those music videos where the singer/band is edited into the scenes of a show/movie for the video. The best example I can think of is the music video for Angels with Dirty Faces by the band Sugababes. It was a reworked version of the Powerpuff Girls episode Nano of the North. They played it a lot on Cartoon Network.

[@The13thCorvus]

57:06 bro went out like a Resident Evil villain 😂

[@BryanMullinsTheFox]

I also just realized that the dog and the parrot are references to Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr.

[@RukoHanaji]

I grew up watching reruns of Monty Python's Flying Circus on PBS as a kid and that opening didn't strike me as Python so much as a reference to Bambi Meets Godzilla.

[@OhNoBohNo]

Saber: "How's the audio sound, folks? :)" Chat: "It's Hebrew"

[@thelearningmethod]

Har har har

[@gamemasternintendoo]

So Foxy believed he was innocent, and orchestrated his escape? Dude. I just had to talk my brain out of committing suicide after watching this!!!

[@albatross4920]

My goodness, there was SOOOOOOOO much to unpack from this movie 😵‍💫🥴😵‍💫🥴😵‍💫🥴😵‍💫🥴

[@danielramsey6141]

You ain’t kidding.

[@AshyAvocado786]

I feel like this was just a fever dream and the people making this said “Let’s Make A Movie out of this 😮” and then just animated it

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

"That has to be Russian." Confidently incorrect. The best kind of incorrect.

[@fusionspace175]

The Hebrew is sort of a Spaceballs reference. That film's title crawl ends with "if you can read this, then you don't need glasses". I think it's also because Mel Brooks is a prominent Jewish figure.

[@mafeuk]

Glad you finally watched this one, I recommended it a while back but I'm not sure if you took my comment into consideration...anyways, I remember watching this movie as a kid in the mid-2000s in one of those cable channels that only showed movies, it was shown dubbed in spanish (I'm from Mexico) and I vividly remember the voice of the bulldog narrator, sadly that dub is lost media because nobody remembered this movie but at least now more people are aware of it so we never know. Aside from the references you guys pointed out, this movie has inspirations from the 1980s Disney special Sport Goofy's Soccermania and the french animated series Zoo cup, modestly popular in my country. As for the movie itself I remember it looking "better", I won't say the animation is bad because you can clearly see that there was some effort put considering that the budget probably was pretty low, I mean it looks like one of those early 2000s internet animations. I loved the moments when they made visual gags or jokes that reminded me of classic Looney Tunes or the Tex Avery directed MGM cartoons, I really like the spirit of this movie and is kinda sad that many of your followers don't appreciate the zaniness of this cartoon and just point to the furry stuff or that some things are "inappropiate" (no shit, this wasn't made in the US the land of prudes, at least in the animation realm) and even you pointed out those faults even tho in your Panty & Stockings video you spoke against the modern animation audience tendency to outrage over stupid cartoons. Anyways, there's a lot to be said about this movie and at the very least I'm glad you brought it some attention as that was I intended back when I suggest you watch it like three years or so ago.

[@soulechelon2643]

Well I'll say this: The fact that the fox in the movie is the person that was pulling the strings kinda makes sense. It might be the only thing I actually liked - the fact that this chaotic mess of a movie actually had someone blatantly making the chaos behind the scenes...and it's a fox. Doesn't help that she ended up reminding me of a character in a story I'm writing, so that's another plus. Everything else though, good...lord...

[@newguy371]

It's also a play on the idea that reporters/journalists make the news, or the news runs the world, something along those lines.

[@bluerabbit4010]

They're drawn and animated like early 2000s late 90s computer games 😂

[@jessicaeskebk5945]

I like how the opening music randomly becomes the opening to Hungarian rhapsody no. 2.

[@Heisen_burger-dude]

This movie is the definition of "It just happened"

[@brandonvalls5250]

The animation reminds me of a 90's PC education game

[@newguy371]

This is the greatest thing I've ever seen! The point of the fox lady is that she is a news reporter who makes the news happen, at least, that's how I see it. I'm pretty sure the coach of the Slashers was based off of Bill Belichick, who would've just become the coach of the New England Patriots the year this film came out, and I think the dog commentator was based off of John Madden, especially since he yells "THIS IS FOOTBALL!" at the end of the game. I'm pretty sure that was a thing that he did since Family Guy made fun of that in the pilot episode.

[@doglover12345andfr]

This is exactly the type of insanity I love about being in the furry fandom.

[@HelpICantThinkOfACleverName]

No joke, this was too much for me. I had to take several sanity breaks. This is by far the funniest thing I've seen in 2023, and likely won't be beaten by New Years. I don't know what's real anymore. Was this movie made by monkeys with extreme ADHD while they were on acid?

[@mrtrb4643]

This feels like Pink Elephants. but it's the whole movie

[@Skonris]

Nerding out, and thinking the dinosaur foot stomp was an extremely specific Jurassic Park commercial reference, instead of the more likely Monty Python reference right out the gate is peak Saber.

[@austwarn7565]

This whole movie is like that baseball scene from chicken little.

[@blueflare3848]

I was thinking that too, lol.

[@funnyhappystudios]

This was the only intentional joke from the movie that was actually funny 58:27

[@absolutefoot4594]

What's odd is that the animation skill is definitely there, but there's just so little _direction_

[@sk1ttlz904]

It was so smooth compared with what I usually expect when watching Saberspark's vids, felt like if somebody uploaded a clip on KZbin everybody would be congratulating how good it was lol.

[@danielpierce9343]

A spaceballs reference in this movie…can’t complain, they have good taste in films ✨

[@researcherchameleon4602]

54:28 someone should check if they left a joke answering machine at that number

[@bruhistantv9806]

This is funnier if you're a Slav So basically, the Fox is a journalist type, and might have something going on with Bear on the side. She has somehow learned of the scheme to frame Bear, and helps him out basically. The whole "Biters are Jewish" seems to be an Odessa in-joke because historically the city had a gigantic Jewish population. Had the movie came out in 2003 I'd think it's a Roman Abramovich reference.

[@youhavemeremoments]

words can not describe the brain cells I've lost to this better than modern Disney though

[@destinstar7742]

This movie is the definition of "no wait it gets good I swearx

[@thelearningmethod]

So true

[@BryanMullinsTheFox]

35:53 That sounds like Jim Cummings.

[@theotherjared9824]

The animation is both better and worse than I expected.

[@FunnyStripes]

So many barely disguised fetishes, lmao. That burger thing for instance, must be at the very least a feeding/force feeding fetish.

[@Mr.Tiddlesby]

0:59 first thing I thought of was Godzilla meets bambi

[@Demonic-Art-Skeleton]

that was Hebrew at the beginning… I used to know the letters but I’m in public school now and I forgot how to read it

[@HeroofInsanity]

The most beautifully chaotic animated content I’ve ever seen

[@howdoimakeachannel-wj3qc]

I love how saberspark doesn't even deny that he's a furry

[@adeadphish7931]

Watching this live with you was a trip and it really was a lot of fun

[@skyshunts]

I feel like I seen this movie as a kid because the designs for the animals look so familiar to me especially the guy bear.

[@0deadx21]

They look like they're from _Argai the Prophecy_ especially the fox lady. She fits right in with Angele and Moony Moon.

[@sinnebunZ]

This kinda got me reminded of Magic sport! A cartoon with anthro animals playing soccer.. They were some of the most well-known kinder surprise collectibles, in my country at least. 😄

[@ThorGPA]

The foot coming down was from godzilla 1984. There was a short before the movie starts where godzilla steps on Bambi 😂 The zilla foot was a call back to that and this animated one was a call back to that 😅

[@fullmetalfox]

I quite literally used to watch this on tv back in the day XD

[@Shugunou]

As a furry, there's one thing I think of when I see a cheese grater and it isn't cheese.

[@Jean-Luc_Renard]

6268 is my least favorite number, too.

[@Shugunou]

@@Jean-Luc_Renard Don't worry. It was removed 14 years ago.

[@kayakat1869]

This is the most furry thing I've ever seen.

[@approachingetterath9959]

i'm only 34 minutes in and i don't know if i can keep watching this lmao, it's so much to process also a pet peeve of mine: male kangaroos don't have pouches, but i guess they didn't like the alternative of making the player female lol

[@DeadMech1]

They also had a male turkey lay an egg... so... Animal wars said tran's rights?