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Lets Be Honest About P.E.D.S | Pete Rubish & Dave Tate
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[@9VENDETTA]

I have no intention of ever using gear, but I could listen to Pete talk about his gear stories for hours. I always find them fascinating. I'm a big fan of his, and have been following him, for a long time. The talks between him and Dave are always great! 🤘🏻.

[@mikevaldez7684]

@9VENDETTA, Liar. You're already on steroids. You love steroids, that's why you're listening.

[@greasemunkey286]

Same here. Good to know I made the right choice.

[@nboss968]

Too risky unless you are under doctor supervision and know what you are doing

[@shaqitup]

Every pro bodybuilder going “we take way less than you think”

[@iiyyxxnn]

You don't need to overdo it especially to maintain. Bostin made everyone think drugs are weak when things like dbol anavar are insanely strong. Following the internets advice I messed myself on "low doses" which mutated me.

[@LatimusChadimus]

Yeah but it's better to see what they are doing versus listening to what they are saying.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

​@@iiyyxxnn *THANK YOU!!* Same here. I thought I was the only one who didn't hop on grams to grow. It's ridiculous!

[@Ramboer]

More Dave and Pete, hell yeah!

[@Jmack7861]

Just a note: Pete accidentally mixed up MENT with cheque drops. He’s told the story before, probably when his memory of the event was better- but the oral he was talking about was cheque drops. MENT is an injectable, it’s a 19-nor, you can google it if you want. They’re both two of the strongest out there in their own ways.

[@mikevaldez7684]

@Jmack7861, ok steroid junkie, you can crawl back under your rock now. No one is impressed with your ignorance 😁

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Okay, I thought that was weird. Ment is usually handled fairly well, with a small proportion not being able to handle it due to side effects. *Big* difference!

[@lastsonofkrypton3918]

Wrong. Trestolone Acetate (MENT) is available in oral form. Google is a thing, yo.

[@stephend50]

The brain doesn't finish development until the mid 20s. There's a big difference between early and late 20s

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Soooo true, coming out the other side of it! 😬👍🏻

[@Jimminityjabooboo]

Sweating through the mattress, No sleep, Anxiety, Feeling like shit, Road Rage, Girlfirend problems, Acne and Oil, Tren will ruin your life

[@BruceWayne-ri4wr]

I was just getting ready to say that I've only done them three times in my life for like 6 to 8 weeks at a time and the last time I did them I said never again how could someone handle that anxiety and all I did was one kind each time one I didn't stack them with anything and I done small amounts and it was crippling me with anxiety couldn't sleep I don't understand how anybody could want to feel like that it don't make no sense I regret ever having done it it was so stupid again those bodybuilders taking five different kinds all at once I don't know how they stand themselves they've got to be having when they claim they sleep 10 and 12 hours a night they've got to be popping Xanax and Valium and everything else because there ain't no way it makes you feel awful and I just took a little amount I can't even imagine those big prodigious amounts and those other other steroids all I did was testosterone I can't even imagine all that other stuff

[@TrenchStormer]

I am just finishing up a 5 week run of tren ace for the first time in my life. 200mg a week. No sides, other than libido skyrocketing… didn’t get me much stronger either though.

[@AP-op4rc]

Hmm. Sounds like SSRIs and ssri withdrawal or Fin… I guess thing they all have in common is casting your hormones and homeostasis into an endless void of absolute chaos. Stay safe out there folks.

[@a.k2156]

@@TrenchStormer That kinda sounds like bunk gear

[@kane6529]

@@BruceWayne-ri4wreveryone has different responses, you also have to realize there’s people that can genetically handle more gear and then there’s a tolerance thing. Also if you have a properly designed cycle using bloodwork it’s a lot easier to manage side effects

[@icebox_Intruder]

14:11 I love that they deliberately panned out while that guy goes in the bathroom and then go back to close up.

[@eliteftsofficial]

One man show lol had to throw it to wide

[@Damian.Williams]

Listen to people speed run their life is frightening

[@lock7852]

Glad you guys are ok,crazy stories😵‍💫

[@blakemoore1905]

Love that you keep bringing pete back!

[@lakebruhh]

Quad shots... those were the days. Stopped gear at 19, 27 now probably go back on when im 30.

[@BigSparky1316]

The chest pain could be a pinched nerve in there. I get it a lot now that I'm in my 30s. But I also have PVC/PAC and get super closely monitored by my Electrophysiologist. A lot of bodybuilders and even just athletes have heart arryithmias they just never notice or get them addressed. If they get bad enough you can get Left Ventricle Hypertrophy or damaged Ventricle and you heart gets a dropping Ejection Fraction and you then have Cardiomyopathy.

[@alu.304]

Lower back seized up pumps from running DBOL at the start of a blast. The "Tren Cough" from hitting a Delt shot pinning Test E but getting the rusty nail taste and purple blood. I even got sloppy with a Test shot and had Pericarditis set in within 24 hours. Not knowing what it was, got misdiagnosed and ended up in a Cardiac Unit for 3 days. The early 2010's were a ride🤣

[@jakeinthebox1]

I only do quad shots….very high on the leg….have never had a problem except for gear being “hot”…probably the oil used

[@TheEoinB]

Refreshing straight up honesty!

[@bryanstellfox8521]

I'm one of the few guys that doesn't mind quad shots. I found a sweet spot about three years ago, and ever since, haven't had a bad shot. I rotate rear delts, ventral glute, quad. Funny enough, I HATE glute shots. At least half of my glute shots ended up with bad pain.

[@radalexander7160]

I've never done glutes cuz I'm scared lol. Quads and lats are easy af for me though.

[@mattesparza2072]

It’s funny how much of this I can relate to as a recovering IV heroin/meth/coke addict. I watch this stuff as a natural lifter to convince me to stay natural, so much of these horror stories about bad shots remind me of my own bad shots as a drug addict.

[@jhamza7834]

I like seeing my progress over time. It teaches me discipline and patience, and in the end, it shows the results. I'm not going to use any kind of gear to cheat myself of looking at progress over time. Looking back, I could have gotten huge taking gear but I'm good. I love working towards a goal slowly. It gives me joy. I am grateful for this channel and the interesting topics that come up.

[@jimirsayssponsor5844]

The copium is strong in this one Just looking at you, unless your goal is being a normal looking guy you’re NEVER going to reach your “goal” over any span of time, js’in

[@Fnomegucker]

you sound so dumb even if you took all the gear in the world you would still look like nothing

[@simak2391]

​​@@jimirsayssponsor5844"I could look like Jay Cutler if I took gear... but I don't so I don't. But I could..".

[@nikanhariri9331]

Looking at what your working with right now, you would definitely be far from huge even on grams of gear.

[@mikegonzales35]

People have a conflated sense of themselves and their “discipline” levels If you look average now you probably train average if you train average your diet is probably average if your diet is average you probably don’t prioritize rest and recovery 70-80% of people who take steroids will not look much different than they would had they not …. Uninformed uneducated people taking “grams” as an “intermediate” cycle is where the problems lie

[@xavierg2010]

Thanks for these stories it really showing another side that many guys might be embarrassed to say or admit

[@micahstoutenburg7636]

Is this part of an interview yet to be released?

[@thomasokeeffe4719]

I think it's from an older table talk episode

[@thomasokeeffe4719]

Might be a new one though

[@christopherbenoit1002]

Dude!! The chest soreness from squats!! Thank you! I thought I was fuckin crazy. Always the left side by my heart like cartilage inflamed bc it was a full pain that happened only when I would move perfectly to trigger it!

[@Darin451]

I'm just on TRT 201mgs cyp, oh shit I mean 2100 mgs hahaha

[@nicktatum3301]

Isn't that the truth lol

[@LatimusChadimus]

Many agree and hopefully many more will agree that getting good sleep is your best performance enhancer

[@bryanscruggs7566]

Cheque drops and trestolone are not the same thing, and trestolone does not come as an oral, he probably took cheque drops.

[@josephclay9503]

There's definitely oral ment tablets

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Trestolone does come in an oral form.

[@mattv1670]

Definitely more of Pete and Dave

[@joeylyons4549]

Ha ha. Laurabolin I remember that shit. Mid 90s.

[@johnmikhael9783]

Crazy!!! Enjoyed this!!

[@JB-qt3wo]

I’ve cycled on and off since I was 20 years old. When you first hop on, you could put 100mg’s of test a week into your system and you will blow up like a damn balloon. Side effects are also intense at first such as water retention, high bp, and acne. But…then something interesting happens. After about 8 weeks your body adapts to the hormones and all of a sudden 250mg’s of testosterone barely does anything. You quickly find yourself injecting 250mg eod, plus 100mg of another anabolic. Your body builds up a tolerance to steroids just like it does with any other drug. So when I hear these pro’s talking about running 500mg test a week and some deca I just laugh. Those who’ve run enough gear know that a pro bodybuilder is not taking those small dosages 😂

[@BelieveNothingAllLies]

You are 100% correct and anyone thats ever taken steroids will agree with you , in the beginning 250mg you feel amazing and after couple weeks 250mg feels like its not doing anything and just like you said soon enough your injection frequency is 250mg eod. Couple grams a week is a normal intermediate cycle

[@mikegonzales35]

A couple grams a week? Yall are out of your minds …..

[@BelieveNothingAllLies]

@@mikegonzales35 do you use peds ?

[@JB-qt3wo]

@@mikegonzales35 Body builds up a tolerance. 3 grams a week to a guy who’s been on for 10 years is not the same as 3 grams a week for a guy just starting his first cycle. Not sure if the receptors down regulate but they at least get saturated.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

That's insane. I don't believe that's the norm, except for the very risk-enjoying demo.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Gram and a half of test, gram of npp and 40mg of Halo?!? 😳😳😱😱🤯

[@andrewmalek55]

That’s crazy!!!

[@johnmorris77]

I’m trying to find Ment right now lol. But I’m a high level lifter who’s been taking gear over a decade now

[@MeanBeanComedy]

He meant mibolerone (sp?) Or Cheque Drops. Not ment.

[@johnmorris77]

@@MeanBeanComedythey literally say trestolone like 5 times.

[@Jimminityjabooboo]

This is why I just stick to my 500mg of Test, and 5k calories per day, and stay out the way!!! These kids doing more steroids than a horse and still look like a natural!!! 🤔 How you going do that

[@rob-dp1sx]

Love this episode

[@sunbeamcostrength]

I'm 52, never taken any thing stronger than creatine, not taking TRT. USAPL competitor. US Strongman competitor. It is possible.

[@tiernanastronskas261]

respect

[@Vincent-b5z]

When I take superdrol I feel awful Works like magic but it's fucking horrible

[@jd9119]

About 5 days in to a superdrol cycle you have that chronic headache and your lower back feels like somebody took a sledge to it

[@archmaesterofpullups]

Trest can be taken orally but usually is taken as an esterified injectable. It was researched for birth control in humans, not dogs. Pete was probably thinking of cheque drops which were meant for dogs in heat.

[@mikevaldez7684]

Whatever cretin

[@chrisweidner4768]

As a 65 year old lifetime natural weightlifter and feeling the aging process, I’d like to be able to take something to enhance my overall health.

[@ktrain420247]

Testosterone

[@kane6529]

Actual TRT would be great

[@stanleykachuik2589]

I've been a lifetime lifter as well. Pretty steady at 180lbs lean 5'10" 53yr. I tried Colostrum for the last 6 months. Put on 15lbs of lean mass. I attribute it to it's overall effect on my immune and digestive systems.

[@fsufan]

Get on TRT. I am 53 been on trt for 13 years, 200mg week. Don't listen to these addicted steriod guys

[@jd9119]

I remember pinning quads and half the time I'd be on the ground coughing my lungs afterwards and I'd be like "I'm not Even on tren"

[@uuu817]

You probably were hitting a vain by accident and didn’t know it! That’s what I’ve heard happens

[@jd9119]

@@uuu817 I'm sure that's what happened. It's been about 8 years (maybe longer) since I stopped using gear. Sometimes, I'll miss the muscle mass or realize my best days for PRs are behind me. But I do not miss pinning at all. Nor do I miss the acne breakouts that would happen when you start and finish cycles.

[@lukas.bodybuilding]

Pete is all messed up about ment. 50mg/week (daily injections) is amazing. Been on for this whole cycle (17 wks in blood work was perfect). Some sweating at night, but feel amazing, and stayed lean, great attitude, energy, strength

[@iiyyxxnn]

Its all about genetic response. I personally could never take something that strong.

[@tiernanastronskas261]

You're gunna be dead before 40 years old, and my arms are as big as yours as a lifetime natural. Stay natural kids. He probably built his physique in 4 or 5 years with steroids. It took me 10 years, a lot of fucking work, and a hell of a lot of dedication, but I will still be here while this dude is deflating in his coffin.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

​@@iiyyxxnn It's also progestogenic. Can be tricky.

[@stormtropper88]

Oh I remember those days . Gear from Mexico brand Ttokyo labs and had a big black great Mastiff on the label . You would hit that , then you get the test flu feel like shit then the red swelled golf ball couldn’t move your arm for like 3 days

[@acesneed3104]

I'd pay to hear the Lilliebridges talk about their PED use.

[@DylSpill-l4t]

750 tren Jesus Christ 120 has my pulling my wire all day lmao

[@chrisd5774]

He's talking about cheque drops, can you get broderick chavez on, at least he knows what he's talking about haha

[@oswelds]

Lets be honest, mostly Dave and quests are redder than a tomato and Pete has normal skin color. WONDER WHY THAT MIGHT BE.

[@TheDaymanium]

It's one of the biggest signs someone is taking more than their body wants to allow them to take. It's not comfortable to hear but everyone in my circles correctly refer to it as heart attack skin, because if nothing is changed that is exactly where it leads.

[@ShobitJain]

Red skin color is an indicator of high blood pressure. Pete is clearly off of those stuffs.

[@brendanhickey9771]

I feel like Pete is talking about Boston Lyod RIP

[@BelieveNothingAllLies]

forget about quad shots they are so unbelievably painful and awkward

[@Omnis2]

I think I would have a healthier outlook on my teenage and young adult life and overall self-image if I knew as a kid that so many people in strength and bodybuilding were on dope. Wish people would just be honest and public about it, especially if they're on a magazine, etc (though that's not really a thing anymore these days)

[@iiyyxxnn]

It's pretty easy to get an eye for it but it does suck when no one is honest with you when your young. I have never heard of someone who didn't know bodybuilders were on drugs so you must of had an especially sheltered childhood. I think fake half natties by far do the most harm.

[@mikegonzales35]

Your asking people to admit to committing crimes on the internet for the world to see to satisfy your ability to understand your own progress and goals That’s a big ask buddy

[@iiyyxxnn]

@@mikegonzales35 Its not illegal to admit that you have used steroids anywhere in the world.

[@mikegonzales35]

@@iiyyxxnn apples to oranges You talking about 2 guys who don’t currently do it anymore or at least illegally … vs people who are currently doing it …. It’s like all the ex drug runners you see on these podcasts admit it now that they have done it … would you expect people who are currently doing it to come out and say it

[@iiyyxxnn]

@@mikegonzales35 I'm not talking about anyone. I said it's not illegal anywhere in the world to admit you have used steroids.

[@chriscarle5837]

Comments affirm why I was never willing to do this.

[@josephmajor7761]

Pete is the best.

[@phillipcampos468]

Lol I f up 2 quad shots not for me my word

[@ThePicOfDestiny]

TRT on 200mg is a cycle.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Some people are at 600ng/dL with that. It's all individual

[@rc83117]

Anyone hop on the Spawn pro hormone back in the day? It was insane!!!

[@nickcollins9170]

Fantastic discussion

[@tommyjohn312]

Loved this video lol

[@afterdark6822]

You have a rib out. 😂

[@christopherwilson8230]

Trestolone/MENT is not an oral lmao

[@Jackedtarheel]

Damn I love these guys, but they are dead wrong about what Ment is. Not toxic, not stronger than TREN, really besides the estrogen, which is easy to control, is pretty low sides

[@hogleg8103]

I have a strong feeling these guys know more than you do

[@bryanscruggs7566]

Ment has anabolic rating of 2000, tren is 500, it absolutely stronger and toxic as hell

[@kane6529]

@@hogleg8103they make mistakes too, he just mixed up two drugs no need to insult people

[@brenthickerson242]

Yeah, pretty sure he was thinking of Cheque Drops. He’s told that story before and it was Cheque Drops he just misspoke there. Cheque’s are used to interrupt female dog’s heat cycle

[@aa7x3]

I know it's been going on for a while now, but I don't like this trend of elitefts talking so openly about PEDs. EliteFTS attracts a lot of young people who are new to the sport, people who are too young to make this kind of choice on their own.

[@factsnchill168]

I love reading some of these comments hahaha dudes in the comments correcting Pete on DRUGS. Thinking they are experts. Meanwhile you check their profile pic and they small AF. So you're taking drugs, you're a drug addict and you're still small hahahahahaha

[@wotanjugend974]

so crazy watching these junkies be almost nostalgic about their drug experiences

[@Mysticbladegod]

PEDs should not be in strength sports. It ruins the purity of the sport and the value of the hard work in the gym. I'll die on this hill.

[@um4668]

You still have to work hard....

[@bryanscruggs7566]

PEDs are used in literally every sport

[@kane6529]

Hate to burst your bubble but the “purity” of every major sport is gone. Drugs exist, if you don’t want to take them then don’t. Thats why there’s puritan leagues for others who share your beliefs

[@REVIVALFitness]

Your comment translates to “I want the world to be a fairy tale”

[@brenthickerson242]

How exactly does it do either of those things?

[@Hyep1984]

If we are being honest and cut the bullshit you two would be average powerlifters without gear.

[@shpickey]

What losers

[@JohnBarron-n]

Who the hell are these guys?