Thor is (to oversimplify things) a thunder god. And I have *never* seen a thin cumulonimbus cloud. Just saying.
@gorillaguerillaDK3 жыл бұрын
You might be on to something there….
@j3tztbassman1233 жыл бұрын
Probably on to something weighty, but ephemeral.
@gatonegroloco3 жыл бұрын
This makes me fear for the phrase “all thunder no lightning”
@O-san43 жыл бұрын
clouds be lookin thicc right now
@kylejohnson31053 жыл бұрын
Thor, God of clouds
@SentinelPrimal3 жыл бұрын
When Mimir described Thor as a “fat dauber,”I thought he was being hyperbolic. Turns out he was being literal.
@ColdNorth06283 жыл бұрын
I did too. Honestly it is dumb for people to take it literally until now.
@VastDivide3 жыл бұрын
I thought he exaggerated Thor's build. I imagined a husky strong build. Much like how he turned out but less round and more square I guess.
@randomrealistictone22313 жыл бұрын
Strongman thor
@gumbi56123 жыл бұрын
@@VastDivide Even though we are used to seeing the pretty boy Chris Hemsworth as the Thor in Marvel movies, but in Norse mythology, Thor is described as a barrel-chested ugly man. So, the God of War: Ragnarok version of Thor is actually a more accurate depiction of what he looked like in Norse mythology to tell u the truth bro lol😂just saying🤷♂️
@0predaking03 жыл бұрын
Hyperbolic his stomach???
@Hafragrautur13 жыл бұрын
As an Icelander this is a much better depiction of Þór than most others
@castillogrande89263 жыл бұрын
I þink þe English language should bring back þe letter þ. It just deserves to come back.
@xx_underoosyt_xx31273 жыл бұрын
🅱️or
@Hafragrautur13 жыл бұрын
@@castillogrande8926 Anything else? (þ æ ð ö ó ú á é ý í) :P
@murattyngo3 жыл бұрын
@@Hafragrautur1 ç, ü, ş, ğ
@castillogrande89263 жыл бұрын
@@Hafragrautur1 maybe đ...
@bengopalmi802 жыл бұрын
About casting him as a villain: God of War has always been about switching perspectives on Mythology, the entire Greek pantheon is portrayed as devious and manipulative. We are always shown the worst of the gods and Thor won’t be any different
@aserta2 жыл бұрын
Still better than the current main god in representation and imagination.
@bengopalmi802 жыл бұрын
@@MadeUpNoun not really, only Zeus is ever really devious, just as the human characters in most stories. Gods are flawed but Zeus is just a big ol’ bastard. Plus, in the new God of War, the only God who isn’t devious is Loki, see what they did there?
@metoo33422 жыл бұрын
@@bengopalmi80 Besides that split personality he had where he killed Modi and talked about how superior he was as a god.
@bengopalmi802 жыл бұрын
@@metoo3342 Yea but he obviously wasn’t himself when that happened. When they see the scene again in Hel, Atreus himself can’t believe what he’s seeing
@blaniac65912 жыл бұрын
@@bengopalmi80 who’s to say who he really is? Both personalities are about as real as a knife to the throat.
@hatihrovitnisson62693 жыл бұрын
Plot twist, Thor just wants to help Kratos build up his house and arm wrestle him after a nice dinner with him and Boy
@NieroshaiTheSable3 жыл бұрын
You seem like a calm and reasonable person. Are you a calm and reasonable person?
@Historian4743 жыл бұрын
What if Thor eats boy?
@vittoriolasam9123 жыл бұрын
@@Historian474 Then Thor would need some explaining to do with the FBI
@thor13783 жыл бұрын
@@vittoriolasam912 omfg
@danielsatter18053 жыл бұрын
Because he relieved him of his douche bag sons... sounds plausible
@benformation81233 жыл бұрын
In Norse Mythology, there are depictions of Thor being rather large. I think his depiction in the Marvel universe has altered people's view on the character. While it's a good performance, it's an inaccurate depiction of Norse Mythology. This one is truer to the source material.
@winterxiii3 жыл бұрын
While I have no problem with this depiction of Thor and find it quite refreshing-to say it's truer to Norse mythology because he is large is false in accordance to this channel's words as well as other Norse Mythology historians. The only actual detail they give him in the texts are that his hair and beard are red. This means that GoW's version is definitely more accurate as he has red hair, but that's it; it's nothing about size.
@navigatingel61043 жыл бұрын
Source? Where is this?
@benformation81233 жыл бұрын
@@navigatingel6104 Well, I can't give you a direct source to the entirety of all Norse Mythology, but there are videos you can search about Thor in NM that depict him in a similar light to how they are depicting him in GOW: Ragnarok.
@benformation81233 жыл бұрын
@@winterxiii No doubt that it's not completely true to Norse Mythology, I was merely stating that it was truer than Marvel's depiction.
@firdanharbima69973 жыл бұрын
@@benformation8123 but still maybe it's just the art not the actual game itself but BOI does his guts a literal biggest target to hit
@shark88883 жыл бұрын
Since Kratos killed his sons, traveled to hell and back, and killed baldur, it is safe to say that kratos is a threat to Midgard and Asgard in Thor’s eyes.
@monotonexylophone16233 жыл бұрын
*Hel
@walkmansart3 жыл бұрын
And the fact that Atreus is half Jötunn and one of the few Jötunn's left could be a threat to Asgard as they were seen as a threat worth eradicating at the end of GOW 2018.
@MikkoSimila3 жыл бұрын
Then Thor tries to fight Kratos, but he is too lazy, fat and drunk so Kratos kills Thor as a tutorial boss In upcoming God of War game. 😂 Edit: Make it happen and I buy Playstation just for that.
@viniciusferrari26533 жыл бұрын
@@MikkoSimila if you think that about his body type, I suggest you get into a fist fight with any power lifter in your city. i would love to see you getting smacked
@MikkoSimila3 жыл бұрын
@@viniciusferrari2653 woah. What a butthurt toxic fanboy. Chill.
@gonebytrain2 жыл бұрын
As a Norwegian, this is the image of Thor I grew up with. Red head and a huge belly. Whoever claims this is disrespectful towards culture and stuff needs to check their sources. Marvel on the other hand is way different from the “cultural” image of Thor. 😅🤣 loves both versions, but Marvel is very different from the original tales and image of the Norse characters, Marvel Thor is American, that’s also why he is pictured differently than Thor in Scandinavian comics. It’s a different purpose and sales point.
@0nullnil2 жыл бұрын
I'm American and I agree 100%
@PaulKMF12 жыл бұрын
From what I've read, Jack Kirby patterned his Thor after his older brother. And yeah, his brother had long blond hair in the 1920s.
@thunderhornmitchell75322 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree and I am all for the bigger Thor
@VisceralCarbon2 жыл бұрын
He was never accurately depicted as fat from what historians say, only that he had a huge appetite.. the game is going for him letting himself go after all those years of killing
@plantemor2 жыл бұрын
I think the belly should have been a bit more of a square to fit the way I picture Thor, but I do agree that he has always been a big boy. Marvel's Thor is a Calvin Klein model, not a thunder God, lol. Thor is the rough kind of handsome and that includes some fat on top of those big muscles. I still think Peter Madsens Valhalla is close to the perfect depiction of how I see Thor, even if the style is a little cute. That body type is how I see Thor.
@BarryB.Benson3 жыл бұрын
“Offended on a cultural level” *says the kids who have only ever seen Thor in avengers*
@-Yahiko-3 жыл бұрын
True 💯
@young-011-53 жыл бұрын
Indeed lol
@net3433 жыл бұрын
Even there Thor was fat
@shathaan17633 жыл бұрын
bruh
@devilpupbear093 жыл бұрын
Can you blame them? No one cared about Norse Mythology till the Marvel god came
@serbiansauvage3 жыл бұрын
The comparison to Strongman athletes is extremely accurate as to why this design and interpretation can absolutely work.
@tacotimefortwo7323 жыл бұрын
Except he doesn't have the chest muscles strongmen have. It was jarring to see this at first imo but I've grown to kinda like it but strongman, while close, is not it.
@joynelbonet1943 жыл бұрын
Anything can work, you could depict him like a grandma and still work. Wasn't Baldur skinny as fuck and still on par with Kratos's strength? I guess people are attempting to use logic in the physique and strength when none got physiques that match. Kratos beaten people way bigger than him before, Hercules was twice his size and to the Titans he was an ant.
@MrSandman6103 жыл бұрын
@@joynelbonet194 Baldur was on Kratos level because of his speed not strength
@averagecarpentryskills71483 жыл бұрын
Strong men don't fight on the battlefield. They would easily get exhausted and be killed.
@BonzerMrT3 жыл бұрын
@@MrSandman610 did you forget how they both pushed part of a mountain together? He definitely was smacking Kratos around at first and he still has super strength
@Alex_FRD3 жыл бұрын
"Oh my God, why isn't the hedonistic Nordic god Thor a hunky Australian man?!?!"
@Captain_-cn4ml3 жыл бұрын
Gow Thor still looks like he can slap the shit out of anyone. One slap and you are flying away. Imagine if he slapped baldur. Dude would've travelled all the realms. Lmao.
@SquaredbyX3 жыл бұрын
Tell us why please
@shadower2273 жыл бұрын
@@SquaredbyX ever seen the champions of slapping? They are some BIG Bois
@Captain_-cn4ml3 жыл бұрын
@@SquaredbyX Search up moistcritikal's video on vassili kamatski slapping champion. Then you will realise what I am talking about.
@sammysalgado14753 жыл бұрын
@@Captain_-cn4ml he looks like a power lifter,seems fitting he'd be incredibly strong
@elijahgrimm80522 жыл бұрын
He's built like a power lifter, one of those huge, massively strong...well, strongmen. None of them are skinny at all, after all and I think it's good that they depict him like that.
@libbym89102 жыл бұрын
i agree with you 100% the strongest men in the world look like this tyson fury in my opinion the best boxer in the world right now looks like this. people are obsessed with big shredded dudes with muscles and abs i like it too it's a change from what we have been lead to believe what a strong person should look like
@jerubaal1012 жыл бұрын
No they don't. This pretending to be reasonable and then saying lies really ticks me off because you have to know how wrong you are. This guy is a lardass. Tyson Fury was only as fat as he was when he was drinking beer and doing drugs. He doesn't look anywhere like this on gameday. Hafthor Bjornson and Brian Shaw look nothing like this. Eddie Hall at his fattest wasn't this much of a lardass.
@elijahgrimm80522 жыл бұрын
@@jerubaal101 That's a lot of very specific and insecure anger coming from your end. Did you lose a girlfriend to a bigger guy?
@cbv72072 жыл бұрын
@@elijahgrimm8052 He is right tho. Thinking that a Norse dude more than 1000 years ago had any idea of what strongmen diets and training were like is laughable, not to mention most of them have bloated guts due to steroid abuse. Instead of going into these philosophical debates on how he looked like, just take a look at norse idols of Thor and remains that were found, none of them depict him as fat. Not only that, take a look at any other Indo-European god of thunder/strength, none of them are depicted as fat.
@BaeBunni2 жыл бұрын
@@cbv7207 What are you talking about. They might not know the specifics or the reasoning but they did have an general understanding about a protein and carbohydrate heavy diet help build muscle, put on weight and allowed them to physical preform for long stretches' of time. Having that gut puts more momentum into swing. Now his gut is definitely exaggerated, but his body type was more likely the norm then the exception.
@Yann27033 жыл бұрын
Thor is not only considered the thunder god, and therefore basically needs a big belly to shout with his guttural thunderous voice, but also the god of rich harvests which lets me assume this is a sign of wealth.
@HydraSpectre11383 жыл бұрын
Thor is more like a realistic strong physique that is fat but also very muscular unlike most stereotypical muscular physiques.
@jonasribeiro20013 жыл бұрын
That aint myhologically accurate
@jev23593 жыл бұрын
@@jonasribeiro2001 maybe he retired, just look at the Thor statue the world serpent bit.
@hodgindaylon3 жыл бұрын
@@HydraSpectre1138 I'm not sitting here watching world's strongest man competitions all the time but I can tell you that over the past 10 years I've been watching people like juji mufu And the mountain and Eddie hall and no one in Any of the strongest man competitions I've seen even arm wrestling challenges were not nearly that fat. it's one thing to have a belly it's another thing to look like you've been drinking for 30 years
@miguelpereirasilva76623 жыл бұрын
Thor is the god of thunder
@yokotubene3 жыл бұрын
Just so you know, Thor is portrayed as a serial killer in God of War based on Mimir's stories. He mostly kills giants, and he enjoys it. Giants are portrayed as the "good guys." However, we know this from the giants' perspective. We may see it from the gods' perspective in this sequel.
@sonkeschmidt20273 жыл бұрын
@@blackbloom8552 I feel that is what makes this series, at least the reboot distinctly interesting. At a time where we like to escape into power fantasies, where we make gods mortal by calling them superheroes, this is a nice antithesis to remind us that idealisation becomes corrupted really fast. It's one thing to dream of having super powers and be the good guy. It's another to face one's own reality and accept that one wouldn't be the good guy when one gets these superpowers because of you aren't the pinnacle of morality in ordinary life, why would you be with superpowers? All that would do is to amplify your best but also your worst behaviour and make it much more extreme. God of war is a good reminder of that and I believe that people don't like that. They want escapism, not facing reality in their fantasies.
@Manudyne3 жыл бұрын
@@sonkeschmidt2027 I'd do whatever I want really. I wouldn't be a superhero
@Mastervading43063 жыл бұрын
@@Manudyne Same, If I had say, supermans powers, I would takeover earth.
@elledy923 жыл бұрын
+Yokotubene It is strongly suggested that he killed his own mother, a giantess.
@robertmathu3663 жыл бұрын
@@sonkeschmidt2027 bro that response is deep and shows a lot of self awareness! Right on
@irishrox67673 жыл бұрын
To me, this depiction of Thor feels extremely accurate and realistic. He's got that 'Eddie Hall-ish' extreme strongman build, and seems like the kind of guy who could pick someone clean off the floor with one hand. Armor wise, although the armor isn't extremely practical, I feel like that is also extremely thematic. Thor has always been portrayed as foolhardy and bullheaded, so the wide open area in the chest could be a 'I gave you this much vulnerable area yet you can't kill me' kind of thing. He also shouldn't be built like Kratos, as the Norse ideal body is different from the Greek. Greek was all about form, while Norse was all about sheer strength. Just feels like it hit all the points for me
@JG-ce3pu3 жыл бұрын
While I agree with you, I wouldn't mind him having more "God-like" physical features, something that just makes him something more than a human with a strongman build. I don't know about what his height will be; if he were to be taller than Kratos with this build, I would gladly accept it.
@cazred78823 жыл бұрын
@@cthulhucrews6602 hope so
@CelestialDraconis3 жыл бұрын
@@JG-ce3pu Even Modi was slightly taller than Kratos, and judging from his in-game model at the "secret" cutscene in GoW (2018), Thor is also taller.
@MereCashmere3 жыл бұрын
This is the way
@Eirud3 жыл бұрын
@@cthulhucrews6602 And Baldur was a foot shorter than Kratos, so Thor might just be a bowling ball of a man.
@realsanmer2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the lack of gut armor, my take is that this version of Thor seems to be extremely cocky: so much so that he doesn't protect his gut simply because he doesn't think anyone is strong enough to hurt him.
@Mfkz_imw2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@einehrenmann61562 жыл бұрын
Guy killed an entire Species with a Hammer. He has an Ego the size of Thamur.
@jcshark70232 жыл бұрын
It’s the same reason as to why kratos doesn’t protect his vitals, probably has healing abilities of the same kind and they’re both cocky because of that. Kratos has wiped out a whole a pantheon so he’s right to be cocky but Thor is just arrogant
@bandawin182 жыл бұрын
@@jcshark7023 I'm willing to bet Kratos will expose his gut as his weakness in their first fight, and then Thor will get away somehow and be embarrassed, then come back later on with actual armor Okay after watching a lot of gow theory videos I'm pretty sure Thor's gonna whoop Kratos' ass in their first fight
@orthoforshort75932 жыл бұрын
@@jcshark7023 yes Thor is arrogant but Thor has proven his power similar more likely higher than that of any other god
@AsuraQin3 жыл бұрын
From dialogue from Mimir about him being a “Fat gobber” to his overeating as well as drinking that is referenced throughout the game, and given what you said. I think this is as good an actual adaptation can be.
@femthingevelyn2 жыл бұрын
it's also very funny because we see Thor in the secret ending of the 2018 game, and he's not exactly a small guy in that cutscene, and theres screenshots of where people brightened up the scene and he's a big guy, the only real change from 2018 to now is he doesn't have armor on his chest anymore
@AsuraQin2 жыл бұрын
@@femthingevelyn fair point
@maaax50922 жыл бұрын
I wouldnt mind if he was fat, but in this pic his stomach is just wayyy too highlighted
@femthingevelyn2 жыл бұрын
@@maaax5092 I mean yeah the fact that it's unarmored does draw attention to it because his skin being lighter than his armor provides a lot of contrast, but I feel like that's probably going to be more a product of his character than to draw attention to his weight
@AsuraQin2 жыл бұрын
@@maaax5092 I think it sorks.
@strykar_wolf3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, my first thought was "Where's the chest hair" but now it's "Why is this warrior not protecting his vitals" thanks for that Ocean! :P
@HippocritterXD3 жыл бұрын
Because even his vitals are lethal🤣
@rynegreen79023 жыл бұрын
Why doesn’t Kratos do that? Or really any of the gods for that matter. If I recall correctly the only god who wore a lot of armor in God of War was ares
@BlackangelKatakuri3 жыл бұрын
Because he is likely arrogant and doesn't think he needs protection
@thefeatherbird_3 жыл бұрын
His model in the cutscene is fully covered. I dont think this is his usual fighting setup, i imagine we'll encounter him more than once in the game and the image shown here could be of him off his guard and not ready to battle, or he got really drunk and came down to woop kratos ass without thinking to put some armor on first
@StockStilly3 жыл бұрын
Good point, why the fuck IS his stomach out
@varun96453 жыл бұрын
With the amount of mead and ale he drinks,it would be surprising if he was as fit as Hemsworth. I drink a few beers a day and I have a similar belly,so I think it's a pretty accurate representation just based off on a logical perspective.
@quasimonk3 жыл бұрын
i mean he does look like hemsworht....in the last movie
@instantheadshot33243 жыл бұрын
Can gods get fat? U can't just assume he's fat just because he eats alot. Also there are no mentions in the myths that he's fat and old paintings of Thor all show him with an average build.
@JGMortalKnight953 жыл бұрын
🤨Fat Thor was in Endgame so I wasn't that surprised by the God of War Ragnarok version of Thor⚡
@DragonTamer31K3 жыл бұрын
@@instantheadshot3324 The original text (Poetic Edda) Odin is the only one actually described and even then the Edda book is transled from multiple tales and poems and the creator moreso just kinda filled in the blanks. Plus throughout history depictions of people change alot: for example, Napoleon wasn't actually that short he was apparently normal height. Also Stalin is actually 5'5 but some people think he's really tall
@varun96453 жыл бұрын
@@instantheadshot3324 thats the thing about the Norse gods. They are like normal men. They aren't immortal like the gods of other mythologies .Otherwise Ragnarok wouldn't have been so devastating as it was. And I assume as normal men,they can get fat
@SalvationCode2 жыл бұрын
His appearance makes perfect sense within the context of the game, too. He's framed as a psychopathic, petulant brute that's carved a path of destruction and pain across many of the different realms. You even get to see some of his poor victims, like Thamur. So a guy capable of so many fucked up feats of strength *has* to look that big and imposing. He just needs better-looking armor, like what he showed up in at the end of GOW4.
@Malimber2 жыл бұрын
Plus he's not fighting humanity. Kratos and atreus are gods not human. They killed his sons. He would want revenge.
@hovsep562 жыл бұрын
Being fat = bad guy lol
@SalvationCode2 жыл бұрын
@@hovsep56 More like being big and inhumanly strong = able to kill fucktons of people and cause irreparable damage to the entire world.
@xeox42802 жыл бұрын
No
@YaBoiDoi2 жыл бұрын
wait what did he do to thamur
@Leo_Zackular_Art3 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of a god being so spoiled and overpowered that they just drink and feast all day, it shows the mindset of gods in the GOW universe
@WVRLORD2 жыл бұрын
That’s even the depiction of a lot of them in the Myths as well
@C1umsyJester2 жыл бұрын
Also if you’re very muscly it will give you a lot of energy, but if you’re a god you’ll never tire in that regard. So just having pure mass for power is acc pretty sick idea
@khalifrhodes95032 жыл бұрын
I mean people look far bigger than Thor without god powers so it makes sense.
@aserta2 жыл бұрын
Gods IRL actually. They exist as beings of power, not humans with power. People confuse what GOW is about, what the main character was and is about. Most have not a clue.
@alaljarensi69902 жыл бұрын
@@aserta The actual meaning or your opinion. In God of War all the gods are very human in their motivations. Kratos is driven by rage and despair in most of the games, and betrayed when he is tricked to slaughter his family. But when he's put in a position of authority like a general of Sparta or the new God of War, he becomes drunk with power. He is lustful, temperamental, prideful and only has a mild soft spot for children that remind him of his first daughter. Regardless of all of that, he won't hesitate to destroy a city or and all of humanity to pursue his own goals. Once he leaves the world of the Greek pantheon in ruins, he hates all the gods including himself. When he moves to the world of the Norse mythology he wants to live the simple life of a human putting his past behind him including his power. It's a struggle of what it means to be a man, a father and a force of chaos.
@Movieplayer1123 жыл бұрын
My initial reaction was: "Oh yeah, the ase are known for drinking and eating a lot, but also, a strongman body isn't all tight protruding muscle." This Thor looks like Eddie Hall. He looks like an actual heavy weight lifter. Also, keep in mind that he's in relaxed stance, not tightening his muscles.
@Eirud3 жыл бұрын
Except Eddie Hall actually has obviously visible muscle and overbearing strength. This Thor literally looks a fat guy who has only lifted potato chips and beer into his mouth his entire life instead of any form of weight. You cannot look at a picture of Eddie Hall and tell me there are any similarities in physique outside of the fact that Eddie has a wide gut. Eddie's pecs are massive, his biceps are defined and peaked, he has rounded shoulders, and you can see his abs on his large core. This Thor has zero pecs, and absolutely zero muscular definition or sign of muscle. People keep comparing him to a power lifter in physique which is entirely false as most power lifters are relatively balanced, but also higher weight power lifters LOOK strong. This Thor just looks like a 'God' of eating competitions. Which is fine. He doesn't have to be jacked to the teeth, but for the love of god stop saying he looks 'strong' like this. It's embarrassingly inaccurate and makes it very obvious you have zero knowledge about human anatomy or any form of competition physique for any kind of weight lifting.
@Shabanezloth3 жыл бұрын
@@Eirud Pretty much my take. I'm fine with this design, he definitely looks menacing, but people need to stop saying he has a strongman look, it's not even close. I'd like him to keep the gut but have his chest and arms pop out more. He doesn't look like Eddie Hall at all as he is.
@guyriley34523 жыл бұрын
@@Eirud PREACH I've been in the trenches of this debate. and its actually sad that so many people dont know anatomy. and assume mass=strength when the only way to get strength like that is through muscle tissue, adipose tissue is literally just an extra layer and doesn't contract to provide extra strength, they see thicc boi=strongman. Fuck loot at Eddy Hall pre cut and after cut, he still has PHAT titty definition that thor completely lacks.
@themaster8043 жыл бұрын
You are talking about current Eddie hall. The Eddie hall that competed in the strongman looked fat with next to no definition. His stomach was bulging and his arms were puffy. Eddie hall now has more definition but he's also 40 plus pounds lighter than he previously was.
@midas01tw3 жыл бұрын
@@Eirud eddie cutted lots of fat after his prime look up older pics man he looks the same
@3Demon1003 жыл бұрын
Thor being an antagonist and a defender of humanity would be in line with his character, as Kratos and boy did start the beginning of Ragnarok. Mimir in the game talks about Kratos being in the norse mythology is a major issue, even though Kratos doesn't particularly want to be involved.
@michaelteeter38863 жыл бұрын
I think they've kinda explained it but how did Kratos get to this mythology? I was always a little confused about that
@supamonkey253 жыл бұрын
@@michaelteeter3886 from what I got is that Fey, Kratos’ wife was able to see the future or was in the giant realm which time moves differently so that was the future. And knew everything that would happen. So whenever you see those yellow marks telling you where to go it was Fey guiding you because she knew everything that was going to happen. So when Kratos makes it to the Giant realm the things he does through the game are already shown, and some future events that haven’t happened yet are hinted
@turtlepope78023 жыл бұрын
@Butt Whole He got there by boat. In GOW 3 Kratos kills all of the Greek pantheon, and therefore destroys "the world". In an interview a dev explained that the power of gods is limited to their domain of worship, meaning Greece flooded but Midgard was unaffected by Kratos shenanigans, because Greek gods don't have power over Scandinavia. So he just got on a boat and bounced. This doesn't make much sense geographically but, you know, mythology
@thebox71393 жыл бұрын
@@turtlepope7802 Did not kill the whole Pantheon there are some greek Gods that are still alive, & athena is still alive though in her spirit form.
@Killzoneguy1173 жыл бұрын
@@thebox7139 True, but the essential Gods were gone. Hades, Poseidon, Zeus, Ares, Athena, Hera, Hermes, Helios, Hephaestus, Persephone, Gaia, Cronos, the Fates. I mean who was left? Aphrodite? Maybe Demeter? Morpheus probably? Apollo and Atlas are probably the only still useful Gods and Titans left.
@Arei12832 жыл бұрын
Thor in the MCU: Brave, handsome, strong Thor in GOW: ruthless, brutal, cruel, strong, hulking, merciless, and menacing
@grandtheftmonkey773 жыл бұрын
idk how people dislike this design he looks sick af. really looks like a strong and powerful character
@Jungbeck3 жыл бұрын
People have a strong urge to be offended as often as possible. They are actively searching for ways to get offended because they think it’s their right.
@TheAcidicMolotov3 жыл бұрын
He definitely does not look powerful. He looks drunk and lazy, which is the way the game tells him to be. Does not mean he looks cool...
@TheAcidicMolotov3 жыл бұрын
@@Jungbeck i dont see how this has anything to do with being offended
@williamshaw20873 жыл бұрын
@@TheAcidicMolotov I’m assuming what he meant about people being offended is that people are offended that this god who (probably) belongs to “there culture” is being portrayed as fat. As for the powerful thing the first god of war game in the Norse setting tells us how strong Thor is several time’s, and from what mimir say’s we can tell that he was like this already when doing said feat’s of strength, like killing all the giant’s. But putting aside all culture and lore we get from the game and real life we can guess that he’s strong simply from his build, the two main things that I see when I look at it are someone who has a lot of weight behind every punch (Even more so if he’s using his hammer) and that his build is very similar to strong men (The competitive strong men) the only real difference between this and a strong man is the fact that this Thor has a larger gut, which is probably because he is a fat lazy drunk.
@Morningbikeride3 жыл бұрын
He looks like he takes naps between push-ups
@willbacewicz20873 жыл бұрын
With regards to Thor being an antagonist, that doesn't necessarily make him a villain. An antagonist is merely a foil for the protagonist, and God of Wars protagonist is Kratos. Kratos destroyed the world of Greek myth by slaying the gods, and in doing so unleashed chaos and destruction (for example, killing Poseidon caused the Earth's waters to rise and great storms to erupt unchecked). Thor could still fill his role as the protector of humanity and simply view Kratos as a threat.
@nockblock41283 жыл бұрын
Yeah… plus Kratos and Atreus killed his sons. The matter is kind of personal… I wonder if he played the game
@ghosttoowavy37753 жыл бұрын
No trust me if this is going by myth Thor is not a good guy
@kenetmendoza21573 жыл бұрын
@@ghosttoowavy3775 Going by myth, there are no good guys. But Þórr is as close a hero as we get, so I don't know what you mean by that.
@ghosttoowavy37753 жыл бұрын
@@kenetmendoza2157 there are some good guys in myth even though they barley exist, he was saying that thot could fill in the roll of protecter of humanity I was simply saying that that’s less likely to happen
@arringtonhughes48673 жыл бұрын
I mean when you’re a guy who solely kills ppl for fun like the giants and he’s not a protector of humanity remember in the game he killed a guy and his wife or sum the ghost who wanted you to lay him to rest Thor is a villain
@aritrabanerjee51463 жыл бұрын
It's just that we are soo used to see Chris Hemsworth, a six-packed dude with 1000 pounds of manly muscles, that many people can't take this character design from GOW 5
@wanderer18183 жыл бұрын
Personally, I can never correlate Chris Hemsworth's Thor build with the actual myths simply because the Marvel universe is obviously different, and mythologies and their Gods can be depicted much differently. I was still slightly disappointed, but it wasn't because I wasn't expecting a Chris Hemsworth build. I was expecting a design similar to this, but somewhat muscular. I think it's mainly the stomach that I thought could've been slightly toned down. But after some time, I started liking the design and I became more appreciative that they went with a bold choice for him.
@lynchfaraaz95963 жыл бұрын
So true
@mavvynne4443 жыл бұрын
@@wanderer1818 Thor become fat and has pot belly because he was trick into drinking half of the ocean by some giant in Midgard wayyyy back then. That's why he looks like that.
@wanderer18183 жыл бұрын
@@mavvynne444 See, this is one of the reasons why I like mythological stories!
@PatrickMenesesYTOfficial49453 жыл бұрын
At least endgame got it accurate.
@deviant_ghost2 жыл бұрын
This Thor looks like a dude that actually sat at the feasting tables of Valhalla in between great battles. Also, if you watch shows about the world's strongest men you'll notice that this Thor has a similar build to them. It's about strength, rather than appearances. Also, I think when Avenger's Thor gets chubby in End Game it was sort of suppose to be a nod to actual nordic lore regarding Thor's true appearance.
@deadplthebadass212 жыл бұрын
he's not a dude you're a dude this is a man
@charliethegent2 жыл бұрын
@@deadplthebadass21 cringe comment
@deadplthebadass212 жыл бұрын
@@charliethegent It's a joke... people have different taste in jokes, so I'm not going to get on you for that... BUT all because you don't think something is funny don't mean you have shame or make it seem like someone is "cringe" because they think something funny.... Just have fun and laugh or shut up and move on to something you think is funny.... have a great year my friend
@charliethegent2 жыл бұрын
@@deadplthebadass21 oof a whole paragraph in response to a two word comment....cringe
@deadplthebadass212 жыл бұрын
@@charliethegent you still missed the whole point of it too.... Wow My friend.. Instead of calling someone cringe.. you could be putting your attention to something you do not think is cringe the only reason why it a paragraph is because I was trying to give you *ADVICE* which you ignorantly called cringe and it's even more cringe that you're calling good advice cringe... the irony.... but how do you benefit from calling someone cringe anyway *HAVE A GREAT YEAR MY FRIEND*
@soldyrkare57903 жыл бұрын
I honestly really appreciate the unique design, he really strikes me as a blundering burley brute who loves to fight and indulge in feasts (in lore Thor was said to have drank the equivalent of a quarter of the worlds ocean in mead). Maybe that isn't what Thor was originally meant to represent, but this is Santa Monica's vision and their depictions of the Norse gods seem to be quite barbaric.
@PlatonicHesaf3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Thor in god of war is really unique and the only reason people mad about it is because he is not a blonde hair man and he is thick! He should be thick! He was the one who drank half of a sea
@Zarathustr3 жыл бұрын
People love to complain.
@soldyrkare57903 жыл бұрын
@@Zarathustr Its just that Native Scandinavians are offended because to them it appears that elements of their culture is being bastardized and even appropriated. (not even gonna get started on the other political and controversial related disputes surrounding the matter. the "woke" crowd and whatnot..)
@lordgrimm29053 жыл бұрын
@@soldyrkare5790 well... A big, thicc muscular dude is pretty intimidating, and his thiccnes looks like it comes from alcohol
@zjaeriqsanders17313 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I would have liked them to make him both muscular and fat, if that makes any sense, kinda the way a lot of heavyweights tend to look, but yeah I like the idea that while he is this strong badass he kinda doesn’t give a shit about keeping his physique, as evidenced by his insane amounts of gluttony
@cheetonips63993 жыл бұрын
Its not wether or not Thor looks like “real life Thor”, he’s a god of myth, he’s got no real face or features apart from those mentioned in passing, GOW Thor is what he was described (mostly by Mimir) to be in the previous game, gigantic, brutish, full of anger and wrath (he practically killed Modi, his surviving son and heir after Magni dies to Kratos), he’s in decadence and behaves erratically, his world is dying. IMO he is the perfect Thor for the story and him not being an Adonis is a very petty complaint.
@khalidalamin80693 жыл бұрын
Atreus killed Modi though...Thor just beat the crap out of him
@le_floofy_sniper_ducko3 жыл бұрын
@@khalidalamin8069 i disagree honestly there is a consistent thing thru out the entire GoW franchise and thats if its in the game it is there for a reason we dont see Modi's body and those story boards that you can find show balder and magni in the water sleeping with the fishes per say but modi isnt with them modi has a hammer perhaps mjolnir itself i forsee modi having quite the role in the upcoming game in all honesty
@Spectralyzed2 жыл бұрын
@@khalidalamin8069 Sure, Atreus deals the final blow, but I would not be surprised if Modi died to his wounds either way. Regardless, I don't think Thor would cared if Modi survived his wounds or not. I get the feeling he wasn't really trying too hard to make sure he didn't kill Modi, and that whether he died or not was irrelevant.
@Ledecral2 жыл бұрын
@@le_floofy_sniper_ducko I can’t recall which, but the Ragnarok myth specifically has one of Thor’s sons, as well as a few other gods, survive. It isn’t a “this is the end of everything” myth. It’s a “this is the end of the world we know” myth.
@le_floofy_sniper_ducko2 жыл бұрын
@@Ledecral its both of his sons if i recall correctly Magni & Modi which is also why Modi's reaction after his death is one of such shock and surprise and why mimir said it was interesting with atreus pointed out he didnt come back to life edit and it is the end of everything technically as they make a new universe to start over
@pierrenilsson41793 жыл бұрын
This Thor looks like a man who, in his middle to late years, decided to become a MMA fighter and turns out to be surprisingly good at it.
@Junior-lc2im3 жыл бұрын
Lol accurate
@mad234luiz3 жыл бұрын
Couldnt have disagreed more
@patronofdebaucheryandviole34603 жыл бұрын
White Cormier
@thirddegreebernz3 жыл бұрын
Here comes the boom!
@v312ym34n_is_very_mean3 жыл бұрын
The legendary Tank Abbott. Ah back when I still cared about MMA... It reminds me that I really used to wonder about how good Roy Nelson could have been if he were in shape. Unlike Mark Hunt, who had a massive build, Nelson looked like he just carried a lot of flabby on him. I think if you carved him down to average MMA pro fitness, he should have really been fighting at 205 lbs for his career instead of heavyweight.
@kubomrazik91992 жыл бұрын
As JF Caron said: "Sixpack is not a sign of strength, It's just a sign that you don't eat enough."
@tristanband40032 жыл бұрын
This is something that should be repeated; if you have a hard, visible six-pack? With no subcutaneous fat? You're not fit, you're undernourished with a muscular frame you don't have the stored energy to fuel properly. Oh, and you're going to get sick really often.
@toughboi2 жыл бұрын
@@tristanband4003 thats cap, i have a visible 6 pack and havent got sick in years, tbh you just sound mad you dont have one, just like any other muscle group you have to work to get abs and also watch your diet
@tristanband40032 жыл бұрын
@@toughboi Whatever, I don't even want one
@ulfenburg75392 жыл бұрын
@@toughboi that literally not a hard cap. If you want to become a strongman you basically need the belly for the lifts.
@ulfenburg75392 жыл бұрын
@ there is a reason why all of them have a belly it gives an advantage
@AgentMajin0083 жыл бұрын
I feel like something overlooked in this is that in the God of War game, Thor's described as a drunkard and is shown to be abusive towards his kids. Kratos kill both Magni and Modi in GoW. You kill one (can't recall which one was first), the other runs to Thor, Thor beats the shit out of him and tells him to go kill Kratos or not bother coming back. Then you kill the second son. This Thor, by default wants Kratos dead, or got sent to fight him by Odin because Kratos is stirring things up WAY too much to be ignored. This isn't "I'm here to protect humanity" Thor, this is "You killed my sons and relatives, you bastard!" Thor, or "I got sent here to kill you, so die already." Thor. Either way, he's probably gonna treat Kratos more like the Jotuun after they swiped Mjolnir than anything else. This game also isn't too kind to the Norse gods. Mostly in the sense that they are portrayed more like the Greek gods. Vain, sadistic, narcissistic, cocky. While this is (probably) done so Kratos will look like a good guy in comparison (now that he's not a rage fueled monster with barely a concept of mercy or restraint). It shows that even if you wanted a "good" interpretation of the gods, you're not likely to find it here just due to their narrative roles. This took less effort to pull of with the greek gods because they're (in simplified terms) assholes with superpowers and egos to match. It's not like the greeks pretended that wasn't the case when they wrote about them.
@SuperGamefreak183 жыл бұрын
which kinda sucks because the Norse patheon, for all their short comings were someone of the more greyer and respectable patheons, even if Odin was still a peace of shit, but hey he's no Zeus...
@alifarshad44613 жыл бұрын
Yeah Also they Interpeted the Persian king as a fat shit I think what most ppl don't get is that this game is not here to represent beautiful heroic gods ...
@rellek40533 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, the Greek gods were normally quite benevolent. Most of their negative personality traits were exaggerated by later writers with good reasons to make the old gods look bad
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl3 жыл бұрын
@@rellek4053 benevolent? They were big rapists and very petty
@memeseller94443 жыл бұрын
Is that why Modi(?) was all beaten up before Atreus murdered him? Damn yo
@KangarooMonkey3 жыл бұрын
I don’t remember anyone being this mad about Hades old design despite it being 10 times worse.
@PrestonWillis3 жыл бұрын
True though lol 😂
@joynelbonet1943 жыл бұрын
People weren't as judgemental and entitled as today with the internet back then.
@stixx94003 жыл бұрын
Hades looked straight up bbq'd
@NeocrimsonX3 жыл бұрын
@@joynelbonet194 this
@joynelbonet1943 жыл бұрын
@@stixx9400 i believe he meant that Hades was also with a belly. But still his pecs and arms were muscular.
@chrisgarcia84273 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing the people who hate this design aren’t very calm and reasonable
@friendlybear38503 жыл бұрын
and only cares about their opinion and likes MCU thor when they dont know crap about Norse Mythology, even Thors father is worst then how the MCU made him to be
@mardshima20703 жыл бұрын
And they forgot about how Hades look like in GoW and how Baldur look like a total random guy.
@yashsakpal68793 жыл бұрын
😂
@Blades_003 жыл бұрын
At the beginning I was confused but now I don’t mind it It’s just not what I expected but he’s still gonna be a badass to me even if he’s fat, skinny or legless
@bungiecrimes72473 жыл бұрын
Oh no people with different opinions to me I'm literally shaking and crying 😞😭😭😭😢
@warandpoetry9542 Жыл бұрын
Gotta say, I love this depiction of Thor; a red bearded, cauldron bellied strongman. He looks like his laugh would be like rolling thunder.
@greyngreyer5 Жыл бұрын
Never described as red. Edda says his beard is golden
@Dice_roller Жыл бұрын
@@greyngreyer5It is described to be red in Þórr's alias / title of "Rauðskeggr".
@supesmin4463 жыл бұрын
I feel like there’s no point to screaming and crying about this depiction of Thor if you aren’t willing to scream and cry over the fact that they made Baldur a scrawny crackhead rather than a gorgeous, kind hearted boy who nobody wanted to hurt
@caninecurry58233 жыл бұрын
I didn't mind Baldur. Being the most attractive person in a small group isn't the same as being a supermodel. Everyone did love Baldur in the game, he was angry that he couldn't feel and wanted to die, so he chose the god of war to do it. Maybe he could have asked kindly to start with but eventually he would have had to be an ass, at least towards kratos.
@yosephbuitrago8973 жыл бұрын
Michael French well Baldur didn’t initially seek out kratos. He was seeking out the last known living giant who at that time would have been fey, but fey already died and baldur came across instead kratos so he assumed kratos was the last living jotunn. He was seeking out the jotnar because they are the general enemies of the gods and i guess he thought they would have had a way to kill him.
@blumiu24263 жыл бұрын
@@caninecurry5823 I think you missed the fact attractive was not figurative. It was not in any form accurate to Baldur. You did some bad gymnastics to make that try and work.
@caninecurry58233 жыл бұрын
@@yosephbuitrago897 I'm sure even the most kind hearted Norse god would still be capable of murder. It's all a matter of perspective. It is written from the view of those who ain't Norse gods, perhaps Baldurs story was exaggerated. Certainly wouldn't be the first time a being was made out to be "devine" for alternative purposes.
@thehippie36103 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@everopeneye32903 жыл бұрын
kratos did kill his sons so he’s probably pretty pissed about that, and the gods in this are seen as the bad guys and the giants the good guys
@BiggusNickus3 жыл бұрын
Eh, Gaia wasn't exactly a good person. Her motives were super selfish and she just used Kratos to accomplish her own goals, ie killing the Pantheon.
@jackcassidy99633 жыл бұрын
@@BiggusNickus I think he means the Jotnar
@BiggusNickus3 жыл бұрын
@@jackcassidy9963 gotcha! I was referring to the Greek GOW games but I see your point.
@benjhnn3 жыл бұрын
@@BiggusNickus titan ≠ giant, as far as i know?
@CaueJulio3 жыл бұрын
@@BiggusNickus gaia was a titan.
@zem696663 жыл бұрын
It's cool that Thor himself is breaking down how he looks like...
@danialyousaf64563 жыл бұрын
This is Mimir.
@vargenfenrisson11643 жыл бұрын
Thor had long hair not being bald.
@0michelleki0202 жыл бұрын
In Norse myths, Thor is often called Thor the Red because he's a redhead so they got that right. In the Scandinavian comics "Valhalla" Thor is depicted as a burly guy, so maybe some devs have taken inspiration from there.
@ls2000762 жыл бұрын
@@agadirand4four347 Forsake all religion? That's not how Humanity works.
@devon84382 жыл бұрын
Your right about everything else, but when a Nord says someting is 'red' they typically mean they are quick to a fight
@kissme15182 жыл бұрын
Volstagg from Marvel who is Thor's friend is what Thor would have looked like.
@folklore67032 жыл бұрын
@@devon8438 Thor is an ugly red head in the myths.
@devon84382 жыл бұрын
@@folklore6703 He is irl too. Im trippin balls on penis envy and praying to him right now
@brutusmagnuson3153 жыл бұрын
I think Eddie Hall’s physique would be ideal. A big puffy power lifter. The only problem I have with his physique in this depiction is that his chest needs to be bigger
@willpettitt32713 жыл бұрын
Yh I agree
@ItsButterBean10203 жыл бұрын
I’d definitely be more into Hafthor Bjornsson’s but yeah I feel his chest should be a bit more muscular
@dreman9013 жыл бұрын
I disagree, Eddie hall is not agile and does no cardio. thor fights onslaughts of giants(that is hardcore cardio)
@azuma_ayame3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree his chest and back needs to look bigger
@themadtitan84083 жыл бұрын
no brian shaw.
@lucasstokes5033 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't find Thor being in a villian role that out of character at all, he kinda does do a lot of unnecessary violence in the mythos and is prone to outburst of anger. Like if you look at Jötunn in any light that isn't "oh they're pure evil" the thor can definitely be a villainous.
@WesoVR3 жыл бұрын
Even if he was not misaligned in any way (which i do think he will be), in these games the gods themselves are inherently antagonistic because of their position. Kratos doesn't like the God's because of his own association with being one. Also kratos killed alot of Thor's family in the first game. His antagonism might come from being mad at that fact.
@Extratyggis3 жыл бұрын
Yepp, he killed a fuckton of giants while stealing a massive couldron of some sort to make someone brew ale on their return back. Also he slaughters his own goats and bring them back to life whenever it so damn pleases him. I wouldent call thor good
@saber57853 жыл бұрын
I mean god of war is differently making him look like a villain
@krystof52713 жыл бұрын
Isn't the main character of the series also like that (genuinely asking haven't played the games)
@rikkikarrylmabayo25043 жыл бұрын
@@krystof5271 yep but he changed after killing the pantheon he belongs to. God of War is about how gods are just assholes with huge egos, they think they can do whatever they want just because they can. They killed frost giants not because they were evil but because they were legitimate threat to their power. In the original GOW the Greek pantheon manipulated him to do things he didn't like and even forced him to be a god instead of ending his misery.
@Sakuraclone99k3 жыл бұрын
Man, the internet is so thor over this photo. I think you brought up a lot that I hadn't even considered about Thor's appearance, including the Strongman comparison. Although I understand your wariness of how his character might be affected by the writing of GoW. Deities within that franchise tend to be painted as the villains of the story. Perhaps Thor's place within the narrative will be different, or he might be leading the charge against those he sees to be villains to Asgard? All I know is, I love his hammer and his beard. :D
@glamourweaver3 жыл бұрын
Given that the franchise has already set up presenting the jotun as victims of genocide, given Thor’s role battling giants, I think it’s safe to assume he’s an antagonist
@ShatteredPsyche3 жыл бұрын
Well, Kratos (the player character) DID kill two of Thor's brothers in the previous game, I think that if he IS presented as an antagonist there will be a justified reason for his hostilities. Just my two cents, hope it helps!
@n7revan8293 жыл бұрын
Well Kratos did start Ragnarok... probably on the Aesir's shit list for that.
@Xero_Kaiser3 жыл бұрын
I mean...they were pretty clear that Thor was an asshole in the last game.
@X525Crossfire3 жыл бұрын
@@ShatteredPsyche Actually *one* of his brothers (Baldur), and one of his *sons* (Magni). Edit: Also, Modi *was* also killed by Boy.
@blood12wolf13 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a follow up video on how Thor is in the game now that’s it been out for awhile.
@OceanKeltoi Жыл бұрын
I need to play the game lol. I’ll jump into it soon.
@LowkeyLoki163 жыл бұрын
yk what’s hilarious? thor isn’t exactly the most ripped. he does love his food. and while the armour is so strange, he does seem fairly accurate to how the myths typically make me think of him; and it’s funny bc being super strong doesn’t mean you have to be fuckin ripped- just look at linebackers. seems alright to me
@jfoster86243 жыл бұрын
Exactly most NFL linemen look like this but can bench up to 300-400 lbs
@xuxogaming87353 жыл бұрын
In fact one of the things that make you strong is the fat you store in your body. This is coming from a skinny guy 😄
@LowkeyLoki163 жыл бұрын
@@xuxogaming8735 yea ikr? i box, used to be a high-performance athlete. i find the idea that having any sort of fat is unhealthy and/or means you’re not strong is a straight up lie lol
@midasthestallion41053 жыл бұрын
Mark Henry is a prime example. He's a strongman through and through and he's 6'5. He doesn't look like Chris Hemmingsworth; just saying.
@TheBlazersfan223 жыл бұрын
And he hasnt got out since the giant war. The dude problem be grubbing and drinking and women for years before thor showed up.
@junkyporpoise42543 жыл бұрын
I personally think this depiction of Thor is amazing: I like the contrast between warrior and rich Asgardian who (as Mimir describes spend all their time eating and fuc- fornicating themselves silly.) I understand how he's meant to be this all powerful God however I believe it shows his over-confidence, indulging life style and reliance of his hammer.
@mydude97013 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You hit it right on the dot.
@alistar25903 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i thought when i first saw this image. Thor looks thuggish in that image, powerful yet indulgent in the higher pleasures. His powerful build coated in a layer of fat, a motif of the inner flaws of his character.
@howmuchbeforechamp3 жыл бұрын
Hakuho sho, the best sumo wrestler of the last 20years , he looks like this thor
@alex-kj6sx3 жыл бұрын
he looks like a joke. short and an open belly.
@NGJ053 жыл бұрын
@@alex-kj6sx found the mcu fanboy
@darthplagueis133 жыл бұрын
"This doesn't seem like the smartest thing to do" To be fair, that does fit Thor. He's a bit of a himbo in the stories, if you think about it.
@julianjpantoja46033 жыл бұрын
Not really a himbo. He isn't really pure of heart, but he's really dumb of ass
@OrcistCleaver3 жыл бұрын
Hes a gluttonous asshole on GoW it fits him great
@deadantagonist5743 Жыл бұрын
"Find a way, or make one" has become my favorite motto in 2022
@storymaster1643 жыл бұрын
The devs described their interpretations Thor as a hedonistic one which also fits with Thor in myth. I believe as a hedonistic individual would eat and drink tons. He would sit, laugh and have a rotten good time with people. This I think is one of the best interpretations of Thor not because of any historical significance (Although it helps) but because it’s something new, it’s something different and it will be fun to explore especially as an antagonistic character. Also I like that he’s one of the antagonists. Keep in mind this is a franchise who’s story subtext is that the gods weren’t really people worth worshiping. Just look at God of War I, II, III, and all the additional games. Most of the time the characters we would usually associate as the “Heros” such as Hercules, Theseus and so on were in line with the myths to a degree but twisted the story to frame them as being more toxic than heroic.
@darknesswave1003 жыл бұрын
Ymir did paint thor in the way you described for sure. Especially the part where you mentioned drinking a lot. Just cause people see thor as a hero type in marvel doesnt meant that he was that way in the mythology. I think thats where people are having a problem with it. It's the ones that have for years seen him in marvel comics and that's skewed their view of him. Then again people see the Disney movie depictions of greek mythology and if you look at the actual mythology it's all kinds of fucked up and not the way its depicted in modern day media
@storymaster1643 жыл бұрын
@@darknesswave100 agreed. I was expecting big and burly.
@FuzzySamurai3 жыл бұрын
It just make sense he looks like that. if people actually listened to the lore in GOW 2018 surrounding thor and Mimir's stories the way he looks makes total sense.
@benmcgill20183 жыл бұрын
Based on what Mimir tells us, it’s exactly as you describe, but the stories have been twisted to make the Gods look good, at least according to Mimir
@storymaster1643 жыл бұрын
@@Yuri-dk6kd yes and that’s the point. Maybe I didn’t explain well. when I say “where Hercules is aligned with myth” I mean he did do all his labors that make him look like the hero, but we learn in the game that he’s actually very bitter and jealous of Kratos for becoming the god of war and he didn’t after all he did for the gods of Olympus.
@amrilhaziq81143 жыл бұрын
“Thor can’t be thicc according to the myths” Yes and Loki isn’t the son of Kratos, so?
@xxMpEGxx3 жыл бұрын
actually, in the scene at the end of GoW where they show Faye's prediction of Atreus and Kratos adventure, it shows their names: Atreus is Loki and Kratos is Farbauti. Loki is Farbauti's son.
@Necroverse193 жыл бұрын
@johanan J.J Could've been a lost portion of the myth...
@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth3 жыл бұрын
@@xxMpEGxx | Except a load of the myths mentioned throughout the game originally included Loki, and have been altered as a result.
@CYANERION2 жыл бұрын
In true norse myth, they always love to eat and have meals. And I see some people very strong in real life even while being a little fat So I think for me, this is one of the most accurate looks of thor to actual mythology
@sqentontheslime19672 жыл бұрын
@johanan J.J Not read anything else about him, but when I was reading the Tvtropes page it said that farbauti.. didn’t really do much outside of being Loki’s father. No, I don’t think the story would have had him come from Sparta after killing all the Greek gods, but they’re taking creative liberties anyway.
@buzzvuzz3 жыл бұрын
Personally LOVE this depiction, finally a more realistic depiction of this Norse deity. I mean, if you read the sagas and stories and then look and Hemsworth in Marvel - that ain't the guy from the mythos, it's a Vogue/GQ version of it. This guy is supposed to be of nasty character, scruff, and HUGE, which he finally is in this game, and kudos to that!
@FablesScribe3 жыл бұрын
Marvel Thor: Based off of paintings GoW Thor: Based off of Norse sagas
@ARuiz-eu3hk3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean REALISTIC depiction?
@njalsand1333 жыл бұрын
Fantasy clothes will do it's best to say screw you realism.
@brianmercy23203 жыл бұрын
"A more realistic depiction of this Norse deity!" The whole video telling us that there's really not much depiction on how thor should look like: "Am I a joke to you?"
@totallynotzokix11_mc213 жыл бұрын
Why the fuck is anyone even looking to Marvel in the first place? They aren't the standard when it comes to norse mythology just because they joinked a few characters.
@BreakingPhobia1032 жыл бұрын
This was very informative and very interesting! Thank you for taking the time to make this!
@iron6662216662213 жыл бұрын
Thor looks like a fucking unit, an absolute CHAD, madlad. He’s perfect
@bluntlyhonest68033 жыл бұрын
He is a tad bit too fat for my liking, you can still be riped and fat at the same time. this thor is just. fat. Almost comically so.
@eeyuup3 жыл бұрын
@@bluntlyhonest6803 Well, Mimir literally calls him a fat dauber and GoW takes place clearly after the glory days of the gods, so I imagine he's far from being the man he was.
@qv80753 жыл бұрын
Bloat lord pls
@Extratyggis3 жыл бұрын
@@bluntlyhonest6803 well its accurate to his characther tough. In one story Thor is in a drinking competition with giants. His task was to drink from a giant cup faster than another giant (what he did not know was that the ale in the cup was actually the ocean. Tough he did not manage to drink it all he did make the ocean VERY noticeably lower. The fucking ocean. THIS is Thor, you may not like him but this is him in all his glory.
@bluntlyhonest68033 жыл бұрын
@@Extratyggis not the Thor i remember as a kid. He had glorious red hair, the body of a warrior and a grim resolve. This Thor is a tad bit too chunky.
@DarKnight-qu4kx3 жыл бұрын
"Don't judge a book by its cover" - Thor
@bennymountain13 жыл бұрын
"Gods are like onions. They have layers."
@shaneleonard2013 жыл бұрын
My only argument is his armor, this is actually way closer to what I imagine Thor as than anything else I've ever seen.
@extremelyboredtatsumaki.4952 жыл бұрын
To be fair, you don’t really need chest armour when you’re too thicc for any blade to cut deep enough. Also regeneration helps too. Baldur, even when mortal, was a twig much weaker than Thor and it took SOOO much to take him down. Kratos too; gets stabbed through his torso and just keeps going. Gods are almost unstoppable.
@ScarecrowNonsense2 жыл бұрын
I feel what's actually important to this debate is "Does the design fit the portrayal the devs are trying to create?" and I'd argue it does. Marvel Thor does this too. Marvel Thor is supposed to be a shiny paragon hunk because he is supposed to be beautiful and admirable and mythically powerful. This isnt that Thor. GoW Thor is described as a brutal, angry, lout. As Mimir even says "A fat dobber." While I'm totally understanding of the strongman physique vs. hunk physique arguments I keep seeing surrounding this image, I think its beside the point. Even if you give up and say "Yeah, this Thor is just fat." I think it serves the purpose the devs are trying to achieve which is de-mystifying Thor as this hero god. GoW Thor is a fat, abusive, angry drunk. He's a genocidal maniac who given his worlds most powerful weapon used it to kill everyone he could get at and then put himself out of work. It wouldnt surprise me at all to find out that the reason Thor seems to be leaning more toward the obese in his concept art is that he sits on his ass drinking and eating in Asgard because he has nothing to do anymore. He killed everyone he was supposed to or allowed to and now Odin has had him in de facto retirement til Ragnarok.
@alucardzutain60622 жыл бұрын
Thor in Mrvel is a Lie. Just Fan service, which is lame.
@PauaP2 жыл бұрын
@@alucardzutain6062 I think the OP is trying to say it rather depends on who you are trying to appeal, and if whether or not it fits the narrative or the over all story. The looks of Thor on marvel is very subjective, personally? Its fine. So as this. So in the end, it depends on who is making and creating the world for that story.
@viktorvondoom59502 жыл бұрын
@@alucardzutain6062 I would not say it's a lie. As the video says, there is no written account of what he looks like other than references to his immense appetite. He's a God, so it is possible whatever he eats would not affect his physique. Because there is no reference to his physique, artists portray him as per the ideal male figure of that time. The ideal male figure of our time is the tall, lean six pack sporting one, hence Chris Thor. Also, this is what Thor looks like in Marvel, so deviating from their version would not sit well with the fans.
@Voidrunner013 жыл бұрын
This is a very even-handed and fair breakdown. As a Dane, and strongman, I have no disagreements. Well done!
@SuperSaiyanMoses3 жыл бұрын
This is mythology
@thalmoragent93443 жыл бұрын
@@SuperSaiyanMoses Yeah, but always nice to see how the Mythology originated
@someguy38613 жыл бұрын
There's also the fact that keeping a decent layer of fat on can actually save your life in battle. Gladiators would sometimes intentionally have a bit of a gut so they could lose more blood without dying.
@rosesweetcharlotte3 жыл бұрын
Or like my kitty with her loose belly fat.
@timon200619953 жыл бұрын
But that looks more like beer belly...
@awkward-girl-sera81433 жыл бұрын
@@timon20061995 Thor was a drunk so
@RiftW4lker3 жыл бұрын
Lol where did you get that? Or are you just fat and making it look cool
@dungeonguy883 жыл бұрын
@@timon20061995 I mean, Thor was famous for his love of drink. Vikings and Norsemen in general were known for getting hammered and having tons of feasts.
@clarenceyax81172 жыл бұрын
There was a sort of grim moral ambiguity of Baldur in God of War. You know him to be bad, but you also know his circumstances and the world in general doesn't seem pleasant, not with Odin around. At the end of the day, he was more or less the bad guy, but they made you think. I would be severely disappointed if Thor didn't at least get that after hyping him and Odin up so much.
@UltaFlame Жыл бұрын
Thoughts now that its out?
@clarenceyax8117 Жыл бұрын
@@UltaFlame I am on PC and haven't watched any gameplay yet, but once I get a chance to consume some of that sweet entertainment, I will get back to you
@Bloodyshinta13 жыл бұрын
"its more realistic for thor to be fat" *Thor eats an entire horse" "glad i'm the paragon of realism"
@juanvallejo943 жыл бұрын
It also fits with the gow version of the mythology. Thor is portrayed as a horrible, vain god that does as he pleases. The statue in the last game fits with his character, it makes perfect sense for his followers to carve an idealized figure rather than what he really looks like out of fear of his wrath
@makasete303 жыл бұрын
it’s more realistic for Thor to be a muscled warrior without a pot belly, being a God and all. To be honest, both versions are equally valid but I do find it funny people trying to justify the new look with “he was always a strong , vain slob in the myths”. I just prefer Thor to look more menacing and like he knows how to wield his hammer as a warrior. Hopefully the excellent voice acting will make him grow on me.
@danialyousaf64563 жыл бұрын
@@makasete30 let's wait till the game comes out. Maybe he looks more menacing when fighting kratos. A fat dude with a temper can be pretty scary lol.
@Merilirem3 жыл бұрын
@@makasete30 What part of being a god requires you to conform to any specific body type? Many have symbolic bodies related to what they represent or are like and as stated in the video this body fits that perfectly fine. He could be a little thinner but i really don't think he needs to look like Kratos two to be "muscled". You did see the strong man part of the vid right?
@moonstriker73503 жыл бұрын
@@juanvallejo94 That's very low IQ "NA deukashion" interpretation of Thor.
@comradebusman33 жыл бұрын
“My first reaction was wondering why Thor has pauldrons but no chest armor” Thank god I’m not the only one
@jrob47953 жыл бұрын
I see that a lot, especially on gladiator movies. It's probably so the actor can show off his chest muscles or something.
@bloodbrawler14383 жыл бұрын
@@jrob4795 I also think its like an intimidation thing. "Come on. I dare you to hit my stomach"."
@jrob47953 жыл бұрын
@@bloodbrawler1438 Yeah, that's a possibility. I don't know much about history, but I'd find it hard to believe that some of these warrior types wouldn't be a little cocky going into battle. It could also be a practicality thing...less armor=more mobility?
@loreseeker66043 жыл бұрын
Have you played GoW? Have ypu seen KRATOS'S ARMOUR?.... i find your worry about this pretty dumb......these armours are designed for artistic effect not practicalities...Jesus Christ some people are stupid
@comradebusman33 жыл бұрын
@@loreseeker6604 ok, first of all it’s a joke. Second of all, Krayons should also put some proper armor on. Maybe it’ll help him not get reminded of his family who he killed every time he sees his ashen skin. He’s setting a bad example for Boy! How will Boy grow up into a sensible warrior if his dad doesn’t wear sensible armor!
@JonNewgate3 жыл бұрын
I love this dipiction of Thor. a true strongman would look something like this but Keltoi is right what truly matters is how the writers handle Thor.
@LexIconLS2 жыл бұрын
GoW has always taken a pessimistic view of gods, playing up their flaws, so Thor is probably going to be a brutish bully who solves every problem with his hammer because why wouldn't you if you were the son of Odin? Who's going to tell you no when you have a hammer shaped nuke on your hip at all times and know you can kill basically anyone who tries?
@JonNewgate2 жыл бұрын
@@LexIconLS very true, I look forward slamming Mjölnir on his head, or some kind brutal death.
@oddicocidic2 жыл бұрын
@@JonNewgate You don't fuck with Thor, Thor fucks you... well that's not really true. Loke/ Loki fucks with him all the time. and Udegårds-loke/ Utgard-Loki does this too. Am I missing anyone?
@mudpie69272 жыл бұрын
@@oddicocidic the giant that stole his hammer making him have to dress as a woman and get married
@xeox42802 жыл бұрын
Nope a true strongman is not just fat
@Nightout88 Жыл бұрын
1 year later and people have completely changed their tone on [GoW] Thor, he's now seen as better then [MCU] Thor by almost everyone who complained.
@Law-of-EnTropy3 жыл бұрын
This is such a great explanation on how to depict a physically strong character. While musculature looks aesthetically pleasing, it's not a direct representation of physical strength. Physical strength requires a lot of mass. And to get that mass, you need to put on a lot of weight. Weight classes in boxing is a good example of this.
@gabrielmoura4193 жыл бұрын
This Thor is literally built like someone from those strongman competitions. He doesn't wanna look good with his muscles, he wants to be strong.
@RuGra7zz3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@danialyousaf64563 жыл бұрын
True. I mean look at Tyson fury. Man doesn't have abs but he carries around trees while jogging.
@paranoidpanzerpenguin52623 жыл бұрын
You realize fighters look nothing like this right? And even powerlifters don't. They have muscle guts, often a (really obvious) side effect of roiding. This Thor is just fat
@paranoidpanzerpenguin52623 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielmoura419 look at Eddie Hall. He's burly but ripped. You can see his muscle gut is muscle, you can see the outline of his abs. He's also not a hairless smooth belly, because men generally have body hair... that isn't to speak of the rest of his body. Flat yet still flabby manboobs, like sagging fat, just sad. You can see the volume on powerlifters, it's totally different
@shmixedNshmooved3 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly for the gutful Thor I feel like it fits how certain behemoth Icelandic men were portrayed. Kratos stemming from the Greece mythos and having a chiseled body like how Greek statues portrayed physique let's them both keep their very different cultural roots and give them their own unique personality in design. Plus the memes that can come out of these two manly father figures duking it out would be pretty solid.
@luisyamamoto18843 жыл бұрын
i love this
@kylerBD3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree
@chaoticwriting63043 жыл бұрын
I wouldve been fine with a gutful thor, but not THAT gut. Check out eddie hall and compare and contrast the images. A strongman could be fat, sure, but you can tell there's muscle underneath it, its not just flab. Thor just looks obese, if it wasn't for the armor and beard, I don't think hed fit the image at all.
@flaviogarza23763 жыл бұрын
@@chaoticwriting6304 I have to 100% agree with you.
@nickoreimer42143 жыл бұрын
The lack of Body hair is the only thing that bothers me about this Thor. It kinda looks weird. He has wild Hair and an unkempt Beard but his Chest looks perfectly waxed.
@musashi-avi2843 жыл бұрын
For all we know he waxes his chest with lightning lmao
@Alex_mason20193 жыл бұрын
I knew there was something off about this
@matheussanthiago96853 жыл бұрын
I mean, yeah, what's the point of advancing graphics to the point where you can draw pores perfectly and but completely skip all body hair?
@uenoyamakamishiro76463 жыл бұрын
@@matheussanthiago9685 coz render is annoying in those i guess, considering each small hair has to move as well unlike a pore that’s just there.
@dildobaggins27593 жыл бұрын
@@ENXJ Yes fun fact! Thor in mythology was actually a bisexual it dosent show this in the movies that much because its not what the audience are there here to see. The literature even dosent show this although recent sources have proof that i just wasted 2 mins of your life...
@Thorin_Black2 жыл бұрын
Came for the God of War thumbnail, stayed for the outstanding knowledge of the sagas. Really appreciated your breakdown and discussion; and can't wait to get stuck into more of your other videos
@cesarurbano78583 жыл бұрын
"Seeing as he absolutely abhors the FAT DOBBER..." Mimmir told us from the first that Thor was fat lol when Jormungandr bit off that statue 😂
@r3ktl3ss203 жыл бұрын
yeah, it's kinda funny when you think about it, if you look at the state of thor in-game when it was being eaten, it had pecks and a six-pack on it, so either it was created to be a more physically pleasing depiction of him, or hear me out......after getting the hammer Thor let himself go because the hammer did all the work for him.
@HyunXP3 жыл бұрын
Now, that Thor is a good design. I can really imagine Thor bathing on his glory, by idk- food, women and other things, rather than having him as a muscular man with perfect body and face.
@strongman52433 жыл бұрын
Thor is not perfect in mythology neither evil
@Evil_Peter3 жыл бұрын
He wouldn't necessarily be perfect to our standards but he was the ideal warrior and man for the Norse people, hence being a God of strength and fertility. It's not at all likely that Norse people valued obesity.
@noahraab24293 жыл бұрын
@@Evil_Peter Obesity could stand for wealth? Or maybe he played too much Fortnite and has seen less chonky days.
@gatfatf3 жыл бұрын
Personally I think Thor will play more to the "enemy of the Jotun" rather than the "friend of man" part of his description to fit the role of antagonis, similar to the way Thor was in the 1st marvel movie. Bloodthirsty for giant's blood and completely ambivalent to the goings on of man. Keep in mind, this is a God of War game, humans haven't mattered since Kratos became deified and transcended his humanity, hell, in the last game you don't even meet any regular people that aren't spirits besides a group of nameless bandits that are immediately turned into draugr after getting dumpstered. What Kratos does have is a son who is half giant, and the last of that bloodline. My money is on Thor's wanting to tie that loose end putting him at odds with our favorite greek chain slinger.
@psychdoesdegames85823 жыл бұрын
He may still be friend of man, kratos brings destruction everywhere he goes, he kills the gods and it's made decently clear that odin knows of kratos and his old pantheon, after killing all those gods it left greece to suffer, so thor would want to stop kratos, antagonist doesn't always meen evil just against the main character or protagonist, to me atleast personally i feel like he fits the role as the antagonist perfectly
@1xial13 жыл бұрын
This is how I think of it: Every one, no matter what side of good or evil you are on, is someone’s antagonist…
@firdanharbima69973 жыл бұрын
@@psychdoesdegames8582 nah just the friends of Valhalla
@fossilking4442 жыл бұрын
I mean there did kill Thor’s son’s
@RandomPerson-yq1qk2 жыл бұрын
@@psychdoesdegames8582 Mimir tells us very clearly that the Jötunn were very peaceful and mostly wise people while the Aesir just had fun slaughtering them. Odin cursed the valkyiries to insanity which caused ghosts/Helwalkers to appear just because he was pissed at Freya which backs Mimir's claims that the Aesir were assholes and tells us that he does not care for humans either. All of the evidence in the environments also supports this narrative that the Aesir are the baddies. Sure being the antagonist does not mean that they must be evil, but they are pretty damn evil in this story.
@federicocarnebale2 жыл бұрын
To me this is the most badass Thor that ive ever seen. He looks like a fucking scandinavian strongman with huge power and strenght. He looks evil and menacing. Just epic
@dontbothertoreply9755 Жыл бұрын
Magni looks better, Ultimate Marvel Thor or DC Thor Aka Viking.
@garryjones1776 Жыл бұрын
Apparently scandinavian strongmen have saggy tits.
@winddoane93473 жыл бұрын
Omg! Another of my favorite content creators, The Welsh Viking, posted a video about this exact same thing an hour before this premiered! Daddy Thor is getting a lot of attention today
@OceanKeltoi3 жыл бұрын
I just watched The Welsh Viking's vid and it was really well done. I left a comment as well.
@Serpentrose3 жыл бұрын
I know what I'm going to be watching next.
@urubutingaz58983 жыл бұрын
@@OceanKeltoi imagine inviting him to The Omnipotent Beard, it would be a hell of a time.
@LMLR1873 жыл бұрын
I think it's Thor's way of insulting his enemies. Give them a big and open target and dare them to strike. He knows they won't so he doesn't care about it.
@LexIconLS2 жыл бұрын
Like Strong Belwas from the Song of Ice and Fire! He lets his enemies cut him once on his big belly before he kills them so he can use the scars as a tally of his defeated enemies.
@gareeb_af98172 жыл бұрын
Makes sense
@xeox42802 жыл бұрын
No
@farvezafridifaizurrahman69802 жыл бұрын
This makes a lot of sense and seems right up his alley.
@RandomInternetStranger2 жыл бұрын
This is my view as well.
@urdin22423 жыл бұрын
Thor has red hair and is massively strong. That’s better than literally every other modern depiction of him I’ve ever seen.
@Thunor933 жыл бұрын
I don't mind a strong fat Thor like the mountain actor from GoT. This Thor is just well fat but whatever it is just a video game and people are over reacting. I believe Thor was a tall muscular (like Dwayne the rock) with wild long red hair and a well kept braided beard(common amongst Vikings) with blood red eyes.
@user-vb4zj3pg1z3 жыл бұрын
@@Thunor93 Bruh this "fat" Thor can rip you in half , look at strongmen
@Thunor933 жыл бұрын
@@user-vb4zj3pg1z apparently you are stupid and can not read, first off that ain't no strong man Thor just a fat Thor, I just mentioned the most famous strongmen being the Actor from game of thrones who plays the mountain, I even stated I don't mind a strongman thor so your reply is worthless and makes you look daft.
@user-vb4zj3pg1z3 жыл бұрын
@@Thunor93 you literally said that you believed that Thor looked like the rock when in reality this is probably the most accurate Thor you will see , let's put a one of those bodybuilders in a strongman competition , they will get destroyed lol
@Thunor933 жыл бұрын
@@user-vb4zj3pg1z I also stated that people are over reacting to fat Thor as it is just a game character and so what if santa monica took creative liberties with designing Thor, it's a game and not 100% based on mythology just influenced like any other god of war game. Get over yourself kid.
@phobos1826 Жыл бұрын
I love the mythos accurate mjonlir necklace you're sporting.
@j3tztbassman1233 жыл бұрын
To further corroborate the size issue, the Irish god An Dagda-druid of the god, and god of druids- is also known for being rather hefty; especially after eating porridge enough to fill an Olympic swimming pool. Side note, also a thunder maker and working type.
@weaponizedlizardmen3603 жыл бұрын
geezus that's a lot of porridge lol
@hardfandango3 жыл бұрын
@1Yan00 only because he thought it was alcohol 😁
@mirandagoldstine85483 жыл бұрын
Yep. I grew up reading mythology books and in every single one Thor is a redhead.
@Sevren_3 жыл бұрын
@@hardfandango and it was a challenge
@wrathofvajra1323 жыл бұрын
Well, Mimir did call him "a fat dober" when meeting Jormungandr the second time, so perhaps the insult was him also stating facts about not only Thor's backstabbing tendencies, but his obesity as well.
@brandonn60993 жыл бұрын
He's not obese. Too much muscle mass to be properly considered obese.
@kevinmartinez14773 жыл бұрын
I saw when Jormingandr eat Thor’s statue, and that statue was fit.
@MereImitation3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinmartinez1477 Fair point but powerful figures have been known to cheat history through art depictions. For example the pharaohs of Egypt would’ve been much fatter and weaker than their statues would have you believe. Based on the game’s description of Thor I see no issue in believing he’s being petty enough to do something similar.
@Assassin-ys5vw3 жыл бұрын
@@MereImitation and on top of that the entire god of war series depics the gods to be egotistical pricks so making a statue or any form of art look better then the real deal just to pat there ego is not exactly uncommon
@Mountainlion1183 жыл бұрын
@@kevinmartinez1477 that was made like that on purpose obviously that's not what he looks like it's obvious from what all the characters say.
@AetherTales3 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, Prof. Francesca Stavrakopoulou has a new book out, “God: An Anatomy” where she traces all the body parts and functions ascribed to Yahweh over the millennia to track down the polytheist origins of everyone’s favorite eternal unchanging and ineffable divinity. The concept of the Gods having physical form, especially human form, has always invited passionate debate, but that is a distraction typical of our species.
@sonkeschmidt20273 жыл бұрын
The concept of the divine, incarnated/manifested in form is also the evolutionary process of adaptation to the environment. Our beauty standards are rooted in fitness, which ironically can promote obesity to a certain degree as a positive trait in times of starvation for example. Unless we have a highly co-operative population which denotes selfish behaviour... This process is constantly evolving, quite literally and to abstract the Ideals from the divine is lot attempt to track evolution backwards and see which constants we can find.
@jaxsoreos7132 жыл бұрын
I love this Thor, I prefer it more than Marvel's. It doesn't feel like a "we have to be body inclusive🥺" either (I'm all for that but it's cringe when major companies try profiting off of if) it just looks like a dope character lol
@jackbelmont43893 жыл бұрын
Regarding on making thor an antagonist, Kratos and his son atreus/Loki herald ragnarok which of course will end the reign of the aesir. As for being misguided Odin might have manipulated thor influencing him since birth. In the game he is also portrayed as bloodthirsty and merciless, since giants are depicted as helpers of humanity in the game, and thor kills them on sight.
@psypsy7513 жыл бұрын
Aand Kratos and Atreus did murder his sons... morons though they may have been.
@W.M.O.3 жыл бұрын
@@psypsy751 they did defend themselves for magni, but modi u know what happened.
@W.M.O.3 жыл бұрын
U are right the only one who is evil is actually Odin. If u think about it, he controls every asgardian, every aeisir God that exists and so on. He in this game is portrayed as power hungry and obsessed with control. He wants to control the realms, time etc. So he is therefore obsessed with the prophecy of ragnarok in witch he dies at the hands of giants. Every single story about odin has been told as him trying to change his own fate, witch he can't do of course so he does everything to prevent the great war to happen, witch is already beggining.
@ozzywalker6093 жыл бұрын
@@W.M.O. Wasn't he a gaslighter in the original myths?
@Lucifer_Ragnaros3 жыл бұрын
@@W.M.O. In some stories Odin was killed by Fenrir.
@joshcook54343 жыл бұрын
just to clarify: he's really not after atraes, but noob master.
@BrainSupper3 жыл бұрын
He's still upset after NoobMaster called Korg a dickhead
@abellagunas73272 жыл бұрын
hahah imdead bro
@captainbirch2.0793 жыл бұрын
I find the mental image of this thor wearing a wedding dress and pretending to be Freya is hilarious
@waywardson9113 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@Hitoshuratdn3 жыл бұрын
Stealing from a God, you clueless fool.
@EagleEye-rw5pn3 жыл бұрын
*Thor put on the wedding dress* "Freya the valkyrie?" *Thor took off the dress* "Thor the Valkryie?" *Thor pick up the hammer* " *GASP* THOR THE GOD OF THUNDER!"
@megareavermickeybot79853 жыл бұрын
My thoughts eXACTLY. they guy had to of used shape shifting to slim down to make that work or Elusions. Either that or Freya.....
@CameronKujo3 жыл бұрын
@@EagleEye-rw5pn lol
@KobyMathews2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite all-time videos on KZbin. Thank you!
@Dragonfire25053 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie. He looks way stronger than Marvels handsome Thor. And he should look strong dosnt he?
@tamifluboy3 жыл бұрын
he just looks like a lineman thor
@beterbeter25843 жыл бұрын
@@tamifluboy yeah... a stronger thor
@xiuhcoatl48303 жыл бұрын
@@beterbeter2584 not
@lesserfool2 жыл бұрын
in actual Norse mythology Thor's hammer is so damn powerful that only Thor or someone as strong as Thor can pick it up there was never a magic curse it was just that powerful
@lick282 жыл бұрын
@@lesserfool it wasn't specifically Thor, even Thor had to use enchanted gauntlets to hold Mjolnir because of how heavy it is.
@lokisgodhi3 жыл бұрын
Back in the 90s friends and I found ourselves sitting around discussing who'd we cast as the various gods in a mythical movie. We ended up agreeing on casting a mid 90s John Goodman as Thor.
@duce13123 жыл бұрын
I could see him as an old Thor or Odin.
@lysanamcmillan79723 жыл бұрын
That's about when he did The Big Lebowski. I'm now giggling helplessly.
@powderedwater673 жыл бұрын
@@lysanamcmillan7972 "cocks hammer" Shut the f*** up Loki
@zero_grav_original3 жыл бұрын
The Strongman comparison really puts an end to the discussion as to whether or not this depiction could be accurate. Excellent parallel.
@xinhokage98792 жыл бұрын
"Do you even lift bro" That's what that picture is telling me lol LOVE IT!
@anthonyhayes12673 жыл бұрын
You and The Welsh Viking both covering this is exactly what I hoped for. Edit: after finishing this video I suddenly have an urge to eat jerky, chop wood, and the like.
@morgan_drui3 жыл бұрын
The Dagda and Thor need to have a strong man competition.
@jonplaud3 жыл бұрын
This is what the true Norse men appeared, especially if they were farmhands. Also, this opens up the doors for a lot of cosplayers.
@T0YCHEST3 жыл бұрын
Shots fired 😭
@asincereman52973 жыл бұрын
Neckbeards going to enjoy this
@CameronKujo3 жыл бұрын
The ones who do or don’t wear deodorant
@jonplaud3 жыл бұрын
@@CameronKujo both? 😂
@jonplaud3 жыл бұрын
@@asincereman5297 Norse men, not those idiots
@agentjuicecartoons2 жыл бұрын
A bit late to the party, I know, but your final question about how GOW may depict Thor's personality got me thinking ... I do believe the direction GOW will take is to make Thor a straight-up antagonist who plays against his primary roll of friend and defender of humanity, but I believe they'll do it in an unexpected way. Throughout the game we're inundated with story after story of how shockingly violent Thor seemingly is, but making him some mustache-twirling (or I guess in this case beard-twirling) villain or a snarling madman wouldn't be a satisfying or even sensible subversion of his supposed loyal and friendly demeanor. I think what they're going to do is make him surprisingly cordial and eloquent. He'll speak calmly and clearly and present himself as unexpectedly professional (The "calm and reasonable person" line in the sequel trailer leads me to believe this). At the same time I think he'll be shown as someone who's shockingly good at putting on an act of being affable and quite charismatic. Basically, he'll be a true clinically defined psychopath; someone who's amazing at pretending like he could be the friend and defender of humanity, but in reality he's cold and empty and perfectly capable of mass slaughter with no remorse. In my opinion, a sophisticated elitist psychopath pretending to be friendly to the "lesser folk" would be the perfect opposite of a warm down-to-earth working Joe who'd move the nine realms to protect the people.
@goddamndoor2 жыл бұрын
He´ll likely be a selfish and arrogant idiot. Kinda how the MCU Thor who isn´t bright and it´s way too confident and oblivious, but with an evil turn. Like, they´ll do what they did with greek gods too, take the most questionable of stories about them and use them to depict him as he is, but on the bad light no one imagines. Someone that is so praised that started to be the one that praises him the most, believing himself to be deserving of everything and of having the right to put his will over anyone and kill whoever opposes since it´s a mortal sin to be against the "might protector"
@obesus7872 жыл бұрын
Thor in mythology is surprisingly reasonable, but has a tendency towards violence. He’s known for his short fuse, but this is slightly redeemed by him not holding grudges. When he visited giants in the myths, they wanted him to prove his worth by drinking a horn of mead without stopping, lifting a cat and wrestling an old lady. He failed at all and they mocked him relentlessly which pissed him off and he left, afterwards one of the giants admitted that they had used illusions to mask the real nature of things. The horn of mead was actually a literal ocean and he greatly reduced the level, the cat was the world serpent, and the old lady was literally time (or age, I forget) itself, the giants feared him, which is why they wanted him to prove himself in the first place. Thor accepted this and went on his merry way. He’ll probably not be too clever, but clever enough to know his own limitations, and when it comes to combat he’ll probably be a lot more wise to Kratos’ nature than Balder.
@avekatten32075 ай бұрын
This aged well xd
@bobbrwon64583 жыл бұрын
YES, this is how you have a reasonable and intelligent discussion about a topic and I agree the depiction is surprising but only from a subversion of expectations point of view.
@scottmcketsy30483 жыл бұрын
I mentioned it in a comment but consider Kratos is a threat to the gods and Thor protects them as well.
@charlymrivera72363 жыл бұрын
calm down wise guy
@xiuhcoatl48303 жыл бұрын
This is hardly a subversion but whatever
@matthewmyatt56983 жыл бұрын
Having played the other games, they don't have a record of painting the gods in general in a favorable light. In the previous game, they basically portrayed Odin as a tyrannical egomaniac and the Jotun are victims of his lust for power and control. I think it fits with the themes they're going for though. I see the series as more of a commentary about religion in general, how we idealize these figures to justify our own morality. (Spoiler alert) At this point, Kratos wants nothing to do with the gods, good or bad. They did kill both of Thor's sons in the previous game though, so I imagine Thor could be portrayed as somewhat justified in retribution, but that still puts Kratos in a natural opposition to him.
@gianb39523 жыл бұрын
I don't think GoW is a commentary on anything. I haven't played any of the games (oops) so I don't know if they're actually deep and shit, but I would imagine way back when the first one came out they just wanted to make a bad ass game where you could kick the shit out of the Greek gods. And if they make you beat the shit out of the gods they also want to give you a reason to do it with pleasure, so they portray them as deserving of the butt kicking.
@haydenkinney53183 жыл бұрын
God of war is using all of the events of the first three games more so in the last one to be trying to write a tale of abuse of power and lack responsibility by the gods both Greek and Norse. And what Kratos did in the first couple games was wrong and that he now feels bad about his mistreatment of both random mortals and the killing of most of the gods. (Spoiler alert) this is why he has problems connecting with his son who you find out is also a God (Loki) and the whole point of the last game was Kratos attempt at healing and bonding with his son which works but this is intertwined with The story of Ragnarok and how it starts. Kratos is forced to kill Balder at the end Fig/Fraya swears vengeance on him for killing her son and they go back home to wait the inevitable snow.
@Sevren_3 жыл бұрын
They did my boy Hades wrong
@lettherebedragons88853 жыл бұрын
@@Sevren_ everyone gets Hades wrong. In all of modern media, there is not a single okeyish version of him. He's always the villain, a douche or just straight Satan.
@justapassingbycommenterrem56423 жыл бұрын
Dude, if you heard of some stories from greek poets there are a lot of times where the greek gods were petty as heck, I mean think of Hera punishing all the women Zeus cheated with, or medusa who got assaulted by Poseidon but got cursed by athena. I would argue that GOW was taking a pretty close interpretation of how the gods really are, they're petty and sometimes mean, they don't really care for the lives of mortals and punish people who don't submit to them. In someways those gods might be worse than the people they rule over.
@n7revan8293 жыл бұрын
GoW is not an accurate telling of mythology, it's an... alternative version where the gods are incredibly cruel and self serving. With this in mind, and considering the rest of the art style for GoW, I think this depiction of Thor is fine, possibly even accurate for the art style.
@opto93 жыл бұрын
Gow is Establishing their own mythology 👍🏿
@drstrangelove3073 жыл бұрын
Exactly, that’s why Thor is so fat, it’s taking his established selfishness from the myth and cranking it up a bit to be more in line with the cruelty and self serving nature of the GoW Gods.
@nobledmarlin173 жыл бұрын
Chest hair and a biggest chest would be better
@KavinCatastrophe3 жыл бұрын
I Alaways thought the Gods were Assholes. Even Before God Of War. Though when it came to norse Mythology i never really found much of them Jerks.
@cliffreintzel98363 жыл бұрын
@@KavinCatastrophe Yeah, the Gods of the Norse are not completely cruel or jerks, it's more so that the actions they do may have affects within Midgard. Compare to say the Greek Gods where they would toy with humanity for their own amusement. I could be reading it wrong, but that's just my interpretation.
@kai0fdathomir5343 жыл бұрын
I’m replaying God of War and Mimir just referred to Thor as a “fat dobber”.
@giornogiovanna75403 жыл бұрын
And people complain that he's fat, wonder what *fat* dobber means to people
@jaas02253 жыл бұрын
@@giornogiovanna7540 they take it hyperbolic because they can’t picture a fat person being a man character
@mitchryan2573 жыл бұрын
@@jaas0225 Kratos isn’t fat.
@JacobL20063 жыл бұрын
@@mitchryan257 he’s talking about Thor I think Edit: spelling
@jaas02253 жыл бұрын
@@mitchryan257 I’m talking about Thor as a main character
@MysticVee2 жыл бұрын
I like to think that Thor's decadence eventually led to him being unable to fit into his chest and stomach armor. He most likely only wears what he can fit into atm, since the dwarves won't reshape armor for him in this world setting.
@dodiswatchbobobo2 жыл бұрын
I mean, he’s only wearing the armor that he canonically needs to be able to lift Mjolnir.
@MrJhofree2 жыл бұрын
@@dodiswatchbobobo very good point, he is protecting the part of his body that he considers way more important, his arms, because without them he can’t use his hammer. Lol
@MrJhofree2 жыл бұрын
Lmao. This is a good and funny hypothesis on why probably he wouldn’t be wearing chest armor on the coming game.
@sainterasmus45452 жыл бұрын
Do people actually think the Norse God of Thunder, is the one they see in Marvel? As a Scandinavian that grew up with tales from Norse mythology and was literally taught it in school as part of our history and culture, I'd say God of War seems to do the source material a lot more justice. I wouldn't have anything against him having a more bodybuilder physique either, but this one definitely seems to do his character justice as well.
@atheon- Жыл бұрын
as someone that played gow ragnarök about an year after the controversy, this thor is perfect.
@russdellapenna3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more with the takes here. Just an interesting interpretation of a seldom described character, and thank you for taking note of how he's going to act in the story, instead of just his appearance. It's way more important, and I think for people that are familiar with Thor feel the same way, and this could become a story of righteousness based on perspective, ex: Tony Soprano, a villain that is rooted for because the story is told through him. Thanks for making the video, well done!