Lets Talk about The Game Awards

[@rooflemonger]

Another year of The Game Awards, another round of controversies, whodathunkit!? This year on top of the usual handwringing about game of the year, the Fighting Game category also feels a biit suspect in a few ways and well, this is a fighting game channel(THE fighting game channel?) and falls in our purview so lets talk about it! Rest assured its not really all that big of a deal in the end cause Tekken 8 winning feels like a foregone conclusion, but some choices and lack thereof, certainly feel a bit odd.

[@MrMissingnin44]

If City of the Wolves would put out a damn demo...maybe we could have pulled a Multiverses😂😂

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

Who knows?

[@theossification3749]

You got your info wrong Multiversus did always marketed it as a BETA it literally said it in caps WELCOME TO OUR OPEN BETA and it had a paragraph saying it was a beta you had to see that before every time you login on the main menu😅🤷‍♂️ also in the news tab it said beta etc.

[@ZyletaSF4]

t8 should win eventually uni2 should win this is what corruption looks like, mk1 best multiplayer game last year, multiversus this year seriously(it's not even a fighting game, more of a party, even tournaments are 2vs2) nrs bribed Game Awards for the second time, now I know how they want to focus on their biggest brands, it's a pity that the money doesn't go into optimization, mk1 is still poorly optimized

[@spiritgun11]

Another good breakdown again brother! My brain had an aneurysm when I saw MultiVersus & Capcom fighting collection nominated and it's so dumb lmao that's like the Grammys pitting a hit track vs a compilation album for song of the year wtf 🤣😭🥃 Do you think we'll get a KI update? 🥹

[@Velthor]

Also interesting how the year EVO breaks the record for most individual competitors at an Esports event in history, the "Best Esports Event" category mysteriously disappears

[@rooflemonger]

actually now that I think about it, if DLC can be game of the year, then the game of the year is Terry Bogard

[@CyberneticHype]

That made me chuckle lol

[@GyanyPlays]

Yep, the game awards are slowly becoming like the grammys ._.) I'm amazed Stellar Blade didn't get more nominations

[@meysamsamadi7587]

Mishimaaaa Heihachiaaaaa

[@joecoolmccall]

That just......stop. I have lost my ability to English because of this comment. "Terry Bogard: The Game"

[@machinegun7547]

We all know Terry got game.

[@metis7534]

Multiversus being nominated for best game while Under Night In Birth 2 wasn’t even considered is so criminal

[@battlericky17]

I wont even watch this year

[@YokaiOnikuma89]

Nobody likes too play anime fighting 😅 I wish other people would tho

[@hellsacolyte]

I was just thinking that.

[@juandeltoro4680]

Such is the fate of poverty games.

[@thesaltmerchant4564]

Keep it at the back of the venue by the bathrooms where it belongs

[@pockystyx4087]

off topic; its so weird that we don't do separate categories for shooters and horror games anymore.

[@CookiShark]

Wait......just realized no Silent Hill 2 remake nomination....frick man.

[@troykv96]

@@CookiShark Silent Hill got nominations for sound design as far as I remember.

[@CookiShark]

@@troykv96 Sexellent!

[@bulb9970]

Because then every gaming genre would have their own category and there's dozens of them

[@MagmaMKII]

@@bulb9970 and that'd actually be a good thing, honestly. We need a shmups category.

[@haughtygarbage5848]

No Rival 2 is so messed up

[@CyberneticHype]

Oh true I didn’t even think about that!

[@androidps1440]

The thing that is more messed up is that nobody gives a shit about the "deadline" when fucking Dragons Age Veilguard is a nominee in one of the categories

[@gamelord12]

It's nominated by the same outlets that review the games. Go check out how many reviews Rivals 2 has on OpenCritic. It's just DualShockers.

[@jcultist4715]

I think its time for a FGC Awards Show

[@rooflemonger]

DashFight has been trying to get that happening in the last couple of years. Like actual FGC community voting

[@fidelrodriguez4000]

As an MK fan, I don't think that could be a good idea Lots of folks in the FGC for some reason have a vendetta against MK And also, due to sheer popularity, MK could always win any award But hey, hopefully I'm wrong

[@XmortoxX1990]

Is time for game award made by the people who play them, not people who play the popular games and pretend to be "fellow gamers"

[@TheJakeJackson]

​@@fidelrodriguez4000 Disliking a bad game is not a vendetta. The series hasn't been generally interesting in almost a decade. And its popularity is among players who have never heard of the FGC. So it's fine, host the show

[@oOYourdadOo]

@@TheJakeJacksonthis is such a hot take 🤣🤣🤣 it be the randoms who like their niche shit more then anything trying to tell you something about anything. Yall perspectives be so damn small, and most of yall just regurgitate what others say so much you think its actual fact. A bad game despite its pop culture popularity will be a game that doesnt get played. MK1 and the MK franchise has been crazy strong over the past decade+, you weird af to talk like its failing just because you heard some people say they dont like it.

[@iliakatster]

Nominating multiversus while snubbing rivals 2 and Nick all-stars 2 is crazy

[@CyberneticHype]

Oh I forgot Nick all-stars 2 was this year, the panel probably forgot too lol

[@seansilv25]

No, NASB2 was here last year

[@theossification3749]

Mvs is better than both but dude Nickelodeon seriously ppl played that game for a week😂 fool me once shame on u fool me twice shame on me if they announce a 3rd game I ain’t buying

[@cosmic5665]

​@@theossification3749Mvs is a broken mess kid

[@in4mus85]

The man said nick all stars 😂😂😂

[@SirLightsOut99]

Giving Multi Versus fighting game of the year over Tekken would be like giving best RPG to Raid: Shadow Legends over something like Metaphor. There’s no way you’d be able to convince me that they weren’t paid to do it.

[@TheAveryChu]

UNI2 not winning GOTY is controversy not being discussed.

[@torrysanmultipass]

I must be wayyy out of the loop, but what's the big deal with UNI2? Not a big established universe (for westerners at least), visuals look a bit cheap and underwhelming at a first glance, less players than Skullgirls as of 2 hours ago. Even if it's a hidden gem with pitch perfect mechanics, for a fighting game to have no tournament scene or playerbase is a death sentence. So, what am I missing?

[@arpadszabo661]

Nothing, just one of the 120 average players is coping himself into believing UNI2 would win anything if it was nominated.

[@Renoistic]

It's less a sequel and more of a re-release. Adding better online play was good, though.

[@Zeomn]

Regarding Metaphor, all I can say is, I've learned ATLUS' game, and I'm going to wait 3 years for the golden/royal/vengeance full version of the game before I buy it.

[@anon7596]

Im waiting for Metaphor: dancing all night

[@MrMissingnin44]

@@Zeomn Metaphor Strikers

[@arachnofiend2859]

I'm most of the way through and loving it but there is one section where a dungeon was extremely obviously cut for time so I would not be surprised to see a definitive edition of some kind down the road

[@wavesofbabies]

So here's the thing people don't talk enough about: The Game Awards do not matter. As in, no professional game developer is making a game to win this award. That's not true for the Oscars, the Emmys, the Tonys, the Grammy, etc. So for a professional? This ain't it. Also, most of the awards aren't even shown on stage. And the ones that are give the people who won laughably small amount of time to give speeches. So for the show itself? This ain't it. And then for the consumers, the #1 things people talk about is the advertising, not the awards. Who wins game of the year will not matter 2 months from now the same way Parasite winning Best Picture mattered almost five years ago. So for the consumers? This ain't it. This show is for no one. And does not matter.

[@bdo333]

The show is for advertisers and content creators with 😱🤯 in the thumbnails.

[@jellojiggler1693]

I agree with the first point. (I do think it's led more to a decline in quality of movies over the last decade or so tho, but I digress) The second point about screen time happens with every major awards show. People don't see the best makeup artist, spoken word album, Children's music album, short film, etc. categories. The third point? There usually is a GOTY edition of GOTY games and I think they usually do sell well. But yeah, it's just a big concerted marketing push for upcoming games more than anything.

[@wavesofbabies]

@@jellojiggler1693 the thing is that most games get a GotY edition regardless of where gave them that award. It's not just The Game Awards GotY winner that gets a GotY version. And, yeah, a ton of awards shows give out more awards than are shown on tv. I know a guy who won an Emmy for a technical category and that sure as shit wasn't broadcast anywhere. But the Game Awards falls short in picking which awards not to show *and* having a deep enough list of awards that congratulate industry excellence beyond what would look good on a television. The awards that aren't shown on the broadcast are for more major categories than some obscure technical category (sometimes even having the best games in popular genres relegated to an afterthought), which is just a slap in the face to those devs. And then they don't have really any more technical awards that would be appropriate to have at the live event, but not on the broadcast. Where are the awards for the server architecture of games? Where are the awards for the marketing (like trailers) of games? Where are the awards for sound design? For UI design? For development tools? For technical feats? For mocap performances? For animation? For concept art?

[@ZForceFFC]

I always say the only Game of the Year that should matter is your own.

[@cerezabayonetta4514]

Then I got a genuine question for you. Not that I disagree with you. But if they’re not making a game to win this award. What are they making it for? What is the equivalent of an Oscar. Personally speaking I’d say it would be this

[@CyberneticHype]

I agree with Core A Gaming’s assessment that Arena Fighters are non-traditional fighting games, not unlike platform fighters, which is why Sparking Zero deserves the nomination compared to Sifu that’s an Action Beat-em-up and Jump Force where the (same) devs didn’t try. My vote goes to Tekken 8 though.

[@rooflemonger]

they also said For Honour is a fighting game. This channel started as a real concern covering for honour, because I thought it was similar to a fighting game. It is however, NOT A FIGHTING GAME. Neither are arena fighters.

[@CyberneticHype]

@@rooflemonger Hmm For Honor seems like a unique case since it functions like a competitive online team-based experience but from what I recall surprisingly deep melee combat given the amount of options that you are given to guard break your opponent and the amount of classes you can choose, that *almost* feels like “a different FG character” when playing the round based 1v1 mode (might make it more complex from Chivalry and Mordhou but I’m not familiar with them enough to make that statement) IMO *Some* Arena fighters share more similarities to be considered non-traditional fighters and while not focusing on balance over fan service and fun, can be competitive (Sparking Zero with its built-in ratio system for example) and mechanically deep especially at a high level, similarly to traditional fighting games, in a bigger way that meets the eye than the surface level super spamming gameplay. Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 and Sparking Zero deserve more respect imo and that can be seen when you give games like these a decent chance. In the end I agree to disagree, no disrespect it’s all good Dood 👍

[@default9314]

​@@rooflemongerSo then, what is a fighting game? If we go by the definition that its a game in which 2 or more characters can be selected to then be controlled by players, where the goal is to bring the opposing teams life to 0, then yes, it would be a fighting game

[@luxerhusku2609]

​@@rooflemongerWhat makes you think Sparking Zero isn't a fighting game? It's got a large amount of mechanics as well as the basic structure of a fighting game compared to traditional fighters. Health Bars, Meter, Combos, Tagging, Supers, Projectiles, Parries, and Cancels.

[@djandjb1]

@@default9314Then so is Armored Core and World of Tanks

[@AstroVaikis]

yooooo did NOT expect you to be fellow persona 4 enjoyer (golden best ofc) cheers!🍻

[@rooflemonger]

P4 is the king of persona. I was so hype for 5 when it launched and then like, all these characters are loser nerds compared to everyone in p4 and it was just rough

[@NurseValentineSG]

I love sparking zero. It's full of problems, but I absolutely enjoyed my time with it. I have 134 hours in it. It's fun if you are a dragonball nerd. It does not deserve to be a nominee. There are actual fighting games that should have that place.

[@crimhammerlock8963]

with their poor category system, idk where else its supposed to go

[@NurseValentineSG]

@@crimhammerlock8963 Honestly? Nowhere. It's good. It's not award-good. At least in my opinion.

[@crimhammerlock8963]

@@NurseValentineSG im biased as FUCK but you probably right

[@mantraki]

@@NurseValentineSG I get what you main, those type of games are like fast food, good and enjoyable on their own regard but i would be pretty mad if a mcdonalds burger appears in a list of best food of the year

[@Zetact_]

It's kind of difficult but I wouldn't really know what to categorize arena fighters as. We don't really have an issue with Gundam EXVS being considered a fighting game, for instance.

[@conradmurraytv]

multiversus's rerelease being nominated over rivals 2 really shows what an afterthought the entire category is, really disappointing that dan fornace and his team won't get any recognition for it

[@thedarkwizardmahabra]

My hot take is that Sparking Zero wins due to the huge PR difference between it and Tekken. And frankly it serves the Tekken community right for shitting on their own game nonstop.

[@Phurzt]

Both games are published by the same company, so if its rigged, Tekken will win because DragonBall doesn't need pr to sell itself. Plus, there is a 99% chance Harada will make a character reveal onstage because he is another Rockstar like harada who is more than an industry friends with Geoff.

[@tourist2222]

Sparking Zero is going through the same shitstorm Tekken had but 100x worse lmao

[@krissmith9814]

@@tourist2222 sure but dragon ball. Youre not going to out-popular dragonball. Even if the game is a mediocre fighter at best.

[@simonjeremy1776]

​@@krissmith9814is that why half of the sparking zero playerbase disappear?

[@shadowseal22]

As a Uni player, who loves my game, I'm still more shocked that Rivals got so clearly snubbed.

[@LucasRMA]

Hoping they announce SoulCalibur 7

[@ardidsonriente2223]

My hypothesis is that they are not awarding the games as games, but as commercial products. Low sells mean you will not be there, while good sales will put you there even if it doesn't make sense. I believe this concept is simply disgusting and wrong, but I think it is the real reason why TGA is so weird, with its fake popular vote, its stilted presentations and absurd nominee selections. They don't think like gamers, they think like executives. For me, the game of the year is Granblue, 100%. Such a tight, challenging and beautiful little masterpiece. Tekken 8 lost its place by not balancing things in time, piling Mishimas en masse (even dead ones), greedy DLC practices and in general by making the gameplay an annoying rushdow fest for every character.

[@HolyHadou]

I completely forgot that Multiversus got the Fighting Game Award for its Beta. While Under Night got overlooked alongside Rivals of Aether. Wow, I'm kinda salty.

[@briangoulet948]

I'm expecting SNK to give a fatal fury trailer but also for them to drop an additional side trailer on youtube for mature/vice/the balance patch. I know some people earlier this year on the KoF pro scene were clambering for the return of KrohGOAT in the new balance patch.

[@rooflemonger]

its my sincerest hope that all the kof stuff drops at the beginning of december, i dont wanna wait anymore lol

[@PotofGlue]

?? If platform fighters are fighting games so are arena fighters Having said that, sparking doesn't belong anywhere near the game awards. Its value has essentially nothing to do with its worth as a fighting game or even a game at all and everything to do with it being a piece of dragon ball media

[@jico5147]

there aren’t enough differences with the genre to say platform fighters aren’t a sub genre of fighting games while arena fighters have such huge gameplay differences to say it isn’t apart of the genre.

[@internethistorytrash7464]

bro maybe Ronaldo is going to appear to promote City of the Wolves XD

[@DieselJT]

The Games Awards are a joke every year. Undernight Inbirth not being there is so screwed.... Multiverse sucks. Period.

[@GmNdWtchr96]

You referring to CFC2 as the 'CvS Collection' is a disservice to the real stars of the show, Power Stones 1 & 2.

[@rooflemonger]

those are fun minigames added to the cvs collection. Thank CvS for its power to include such games.

[@Zetact_]

Frankly most awards shows are moreso just a gauge of marketing success than full-on quality. Which also is why smaller games that simply don't have a marketing budget only make the awards nominations if they see a MASSIVE viral push.

[@dotintegral]

Please remember, that nominations are submitted by gaming media. So weird things like multiversus being there twice or sifu as a fighting game doesn't necessarily mean that the people at game awards don't know what they are doing. It's the whole gaming media industry that has no clue! 😢

[@arthurrosensmith-gr5ji]

Only reason to watch game awards is for the trailers. I’m not gonna put up with the fake journalism this year. I’ll catch the highlights the next day.

[@lalo2513]

4:53 I have a dream where arena fighters will not be judged by their fighting game subgenre but by the content of their character. I have a dream today.

[@kevingriffith6011]

I'm 100% willing to give arena fighters a chance, as soon as they release one that has balance and competitive integrity in mind. Sparking Zero is a fine beer and pretzels game, I had a ton of fun with it, but the more you dig into it the more the cracks begin to show. It's just that everywhere I look in the genre I see the same developer mindset, that they're not looking to draw a competitive crowd, that they're looking to be series authentic. I want to see the potential of the genre if the developers actually tried to make something competitive.

[@lalo2513]

​@@kevingriffith6011 Thank you. While Sparking Zero is a very fun and cool game, it's far away from competitive, it's mechanically broken. Same with the Storm games. If you want the game the arena fighter that gets the closest to a traditional fighting game, check out Kill La Kill IF. Demon Slayer and One Justice 2 are fair mentions too. Arena fighters are a subgenre of fighting games just like platform fighters are, and even inside arena fighters there are vastly different types. If anything, the next possible savior is Bleach Rebirth of Souls, it has roman cancels! (I had to rewrite my comment cus it got deleted, hopefully it will not show twice lol)

[@meswil]

I'd respect them if their main appeal isn't bieng dependent on existing legendary big IPs established outside of fighting games .

[@TheDuckGamer47]

​@@kevingriffith6011 KILL la KILL: IF?

[@jico5147]

@@kevingriffith6011to be fair, there has always been extremely small amounts of people who are actually invested in playing these styles of games competitively and these games don’t cater to people who play games to compete and win, but as, like you said, a beer and pretzels game. this game was made entirely for people who like dragon ball and the budokai tenkaichi series.

[@superserg4763]

If Multiversus or Sparking Zero wins, Geoff better have Virtua Fighter 6 or else I'm gonna be a very angry human 🤬

[@bean-charlieartz3138]

I just found out on Maximilian's stream last night Apparently, if you read the super fine print of the game awards nomination papers, DLC could have always won Game of the year. It just never happened before this year. I think it sucks that it got nominated, but it's not Geoff that picks the games, it's a video game journalist committee.

[@juandeltoro4680]

>video game journalist committee We all know what that means.

[@jellojiggler1693]

video game "journalist" committee. The journalists that said pokemon ruby and sapphire were 7/10 for having too much water, or the journalists that couldn't get through the tutorial stage on cuphead?

[@default9314]

​@@jellojiggler1693the were right tho. ORAS (and by proxy RSE) legitimately have to much water. The problem is that these routes are functionally the exact same. Same vistas andmostly the same music make for an incredibly repetitive experience, unlike the routes on land, which are much more creative with theyre theme

[@jellojiggler1693]

@@default9314 You have horrible takes, we get it.

[@default9314]

@@jellojiggler1693 Look we get it, you are easily entertained

[@sagittariusseiya8310]

I pray that Virtua Fighter 6 will be at The Game Awards.

[@YourPalPat]

Tekken 8 deserves it for sure, I know most people hate the modern day post launch monetization of fighting games. But holy moly did that game launch packed with content.

[@aganosxvii5079]

I know it is off topic but i just want to see costume 4 for sf6 lol

[@ZensanFGC]

For real…We need more than a character birthday announcement.

[@theossification3749]

Dude like it’s ridiculous we haven’t gotten it

[@jdellabeat6245]

It's a travesty that the MVC collection is in consideration and Multiversus with it's unclear status as either a live service model or a title that needed to be classified as a 'beta' afterward. UNI2 got snubbed, for sure. I am quite saddened that there was no indie pick for fighters this year. I was glad something like Pocket Bravery was in consideration in 2023.

[@vonVile]

Marvel Vs Capcom Fighting Collection shouldn't be on the list. It's basically Jethro Tull winning Best Metal Album Grammy over Metallica for releasing a greatest hits album.

[@walkingking707]

Rivals 2 deserves that spot waaaay more that multiversus. Not even trying to hate, it's just the reality.

[@21leowheeler]

I'm exactly at 6:55 while typing, multiverse had an open beta, 2xko is a closed beta, i think that difference is significant enough.

[@alexism9656]

I'd be pissed if CvS2 wins next year instead of City of the Wolves

[@rooflemonger]

honestly id be happy either way lol

[@kareema3832]

"Why not bring back street fighter 6?" because everyone knows itll sweep the fighting game category again 😂

[@bdo333]

If platform fighters can be eligible, arena fighters should be as well. What other genre would they fall under? Action Adventure? Too vague.

[@YokaiOnikuma89]

This list looks like a causal gamer list just saying 😅

[@quandary23]

Hades II not being nominated for most anticipated game is a crime to me, I guess it got nominated last year but the early access wasn't even out yet and it ~definitely~ makes me anticipate the release

[@Phurzt]

Im gonna be real. Tekken will win, for one reason: Season 1 character 4 will be revealed onstage, because Harada is like Kojima in that Geoff has sucked him off a handfull of times and it wouldnt be great PR for tekken to bring character hype, and not win an award. Plus, both dragonball and tekken are publishe by bamco, DBSZ is a dragonball IP and can sell itself with basically zero PR. 99% sure tekken will win.

[@budaclees233]

Multiversus will win cause WB put all their ad money into the Game Awards. Not a fact, but that's the only reason to ever say this game should be nominated. It's one of my main games to play right now, and in no way is it the best fighting game this year.

[@rooflemonger]

you may not like decisions about the game awards but money has zero say on the winner. The judges are the judges and there is no payoffs or anything silly like that

[@boateye]

Oh no, what did Geoffrey do this time

[@rooflemonger]

I can't always control my Canadian compatriot hes crazed with power

[@battlericky17]

@@rooflemonger😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@bloodbone2606]

ngl if that’s the case khaos reigns should be nominated they dropped a whole story multiple characters

[@dennman37]

Yeah but Khaos Reigns sucked, sadly xD

[@rpgfrog2330]

Rooflemonger is a real one. Loves Persona 4 and knows Metaphor wins Game of the Year easily!

[@XSAGA87]

I guess you could call me an OG fan at this point mid 30's and multiversus and sparking zero should not be here nor should the marvel capcom collection. This game awards is game trailers for me. These judges are not gamers.

[@TheReal_FishFins]

HOT TAKE. I prefer GBVSR over Tekken 8. But I am a smooth brain monkey.

[@MagmaMKII]

We all know Warner lobbied for Multiversus to win that time.

[@mist12345678910]

Will having nominated dlc as game of the year force devs to actually make goooooood dLc??? I want the days of gta 4 + rdr1 type of dlc. PLEASE! Thanks fromsoft tho for keeping up with some good dlc tho

[@fernandopires135]

Rooflemonger: soooo... Tekken *Asure lake: moonstriders starts playing* Not complaining, its just funny how you do this every time

[@barrymaslow8441]

Then again, Roof done some schilling him damn self, no?

[@dectilon]

I'm sure there's a marketing guy working for TGA who just gets a perverse joy from searching up videos like this to laugh at.

[@noboty4168]

You say Tekken will win for sure, but I say dragonball is the safer bet by virtue of having a bigger IP. Same reason multiversus won. Bigger Ip means more marketing.

[@viniciusmatias7446]

Tip for a video, talk about the battoujutsu characters in fighting games, they're some of the coolest characters ever, some of them, Ukyo from Samurai Shodown, Setsuka from SoulCalibur, Johhny from Guilty Gear, Yuzuriha from Under Night, Kenshi from MK, Hibiki from Last Blade and Narmaya from GBVS.

[@bogbupog]

Uni2 is oogly, reply with monke if you agree🐒

[@egebamyasi2929]

You beat Metaphor within 58 hours? I already broke the 100h mark on my playthrough albeit I'm near the end.

[@rooflemonger]

I seemingly have beaten it quite a bit faster than most people, and on hard mode to boot which makes it more perplexing. I did like 95% of the side content too. Maybe i just don't sit around talking to NPC's around town the same way as other people lol

[@bdo333]

I didnt know Sifu existed

[@xaahd]

99% of people only watch for new game announcements anyway. The "award" gimmick is just a reason to have a second Summer Games Fest to hype up games before xmas.

[@FixerFour]

I REALLY thought you were about to sync your "Hello and Welcome" to Gonzo's mouth

[@DaPhenomAce]

WB slid TGA some money for this MVS nomination

[@biquiba]

The Cannon brothers worked on that Robots fighting game before being employed by Riot. It was in a Alpha preview stage but still got nominated by The Ad Awards. So of curse they had to pick up the Marvel collection.

[@mousanabil7185]

It should have been UNI 2 and Blazing Strike instead of Multiversus and MVC Collection!

[@nightie1stan913]

I agree with your take on Metaphor, great game

[@maestroquebrado2259]

Multiversus was actually extremely open about the fact that it was in open beta all those years ago inside the game itself iirc, there was even a huge warning before you entered the beta if I'm not mistaken (a very predatory beta with absurd monetization, but still, a beta) which only makes it more insane that it was even nominated in the first place back in 2022 and won against actual finished games. That being said, it still probably shouldn't have been nominated this year, considering the horrendous reception it had at launch and Under Night In Birth 2 literally being right there

[@spiralgamer333]

Metaphor is absolutely GOTY. Got to the true ending with like 116 hours of playtime. Defeated the four dragons and unlocked every Archetype for everyone to get the best weapons before taking on the final boss. Despite that long road, it was effing worth it!

[@kaleidoslug7777]

Sifu is one of my favorite games ever made. Its legitimately in my top 2, and depending on the day its just the top 1. Its a masterpiece. Still not a damn fighting game.

[@iamironman242424]

game awards is now the oscars. friends just patting each other on the back to make more money

[@benjaminbernal4729]

Please god Killer Instinct 4 announcement 30 years anniversary for god sake

[@Xxsilverblade1991xX]

The fighting game of the year literally never gets stage time any year anyway, it couldn't be clearer that it's a category that they could not give less of a shit about.

[@tonyschnobel3522]

Alright roofle youve convinced me. Im getting metaphor. It betterrrrr be good or else!

[@landonhulett2119]

Replace Multiverses with Under Night In Birth 2 and problem solved. Fighting game predictions: SNK - KOF 15 Season 3 Vice and Mature gameplay, Fatal Fury: COTW next character reveal (possibly Renaldo). Capcom - Street Fighter 6 Mai reveal and gameplay. Bamco - Tekken 8 fourth DLC character reveal Sega - New Virtua Fighter Riot Games (God willing) - 2XKO new character reveal

[@alanwood586]

Well said, those nominations are a joke (aside from Tekken 8 and Granblu versus Rising). Including Multiversus (again), Sparking Zero and a collection of older capcom fighting games (great games but not new games lol) over Undernight 2 is a joke 🙃

[@SaiyanHeretic]

At this point, I'm convinced Keighley deliberately fucks with the Game Awards categories to farm engagement.

[@fennicfox4600]

Man the industry can be so out of touch sometimes. We need someone who we can trust... Rooflemonger award show when? Would it be called The Golden Monkeys!?

[@phdbot4483]

In regards to the "Best Fighting Game" award for 2024, I still like playing Tekken 8 with friends, so I gotta give it to that, but if the show decides to give it to Multiversus a 2nd time, I'm just gonna point and laugh. TGA isn't even worth getting mad at with how bad their judges are, or some of the choices they made for nominees. Despite what TGA declares, it's the games WE love the most that truly matter in the end.

[@ScriptZac]

You have waaaaaaaaaaaay more faith than I do. To me, this is a very clear 3 way race between the MvC Collection, Sparking Zero, and Multiversus. The people who vote on this are self admittedly people who don't know anything about fighting games- that's why we get these silly nominations in the first place. If Multiversus wins it'll be because it won last time, and that's all anyone remembers. MvC Collection made a lot of noise and people might vote based on that. Same for Sparking Zero. Not a single voter is going to look at Gran Blue, or Tekken and think 'well, these are the only real choices on the list, and Tekken is the obviously bigger name'. All the names on the list are equally deserving to the people voting, so it's just a matter of which made the most noise this year.

[@TheWordPlay]

Choosing Metaphor and calling Persona 4 the best makes you alright in my book! Also, crazy that Uni 2 and Rivals 2 got snubbed yet Multiverus gets a second shot

[@seansubulade831]

Metaphor is so amazing mannn I’m literally duin everything i can before i need to fight for the last time Louis just to savor the last bits of the game

[@Urunian]

I mean it's Tekken 8 or Sparking Zero for the right or wrong reasons. The GOTY nominees literally means any fighter that got a season pass could be entered for Fighting game of the year.

[@PattheMan876-qf8ro]

There's also the eSports awards where you're pretty much guaranteed not to have any FGC personalities. That one could at least use separate categories so it's not all FPS and MOBA games.

[@Tungdil_01]

If Sun Wukong and Tekken 8 don't win in their respective categories, this award should not been taken seriously

[@Renoistic]

What category would Wukong win Most undeservedly over-hyped? People were in a fervor while the trailers still had like 10s of gameplay 😂

[@StarDragonJP]

Multiversus definitely released as a beta. It's just whether it continued to be in beta that was the question. They worded messages in a way that made it sound like Season 1 was the launch of the game, but I don't think they ever specifically said it was out of beta. It definitely seemed like it was, so when they announced the beta was shutting down 6 months after the game was launched, a lot of people were confused.

[@Dasaltwarrior]

Its really entertaining to see the Geoff Keighley power hour in a year where no real uber prestige games came out. He literally has to settle for half of one, and it makes it so transparent that he's a wanna be Hollywood celebrity hack that gets off on the pomp and circumstance Love ya Geoff, keep doin' what ya doin', its always a riot

[@leothevirgo3375]

casuals pick this shit what do you honestly expect

[@ThePlasticBowl]

I watch for the reveals not the awards show we been known they’re not genuine.

[@aleblasco39]

Tbh, the 2XKO thing wasn't launched globally and it, specially, hurt me because I was hyped to try it as I've spent more than 3000 hours in League of Legends lmao. Also, UNI 2 not being nominated is a crime

[@ilikestamps2978]

Everyone is always complaining every game awards lol somethings never change.

[@Farbanti_]

I can't help but notice you noticing Rivals of Aether 2 in a few videos now... 👀 I've been heavily invested in the Rivals scene for years now so I know where my highly biased vote would've gone if it made the cut. Shame that neither it nor UNI2 made it... Did you have any plans for covering Rivals on the channel in a video or two later on? I know platform fighters are outside of your typical wheelhouse on the channel, but if you've been playing the game I'd love to hear your thoughts on it!

[@Shade84]

Yeah, Multiversus having already been there (and winning) means everyone acknowledged the game having come out THAT year, especially the people who accepted the award. Walking it back and saying that was only a beta should have them disqualified from either that year or this. On a side note, I assume SNK's appearance will consist of a trailer for Vice and Mature in KOF XV. Edit: Spelling.

[@Fenrisson]

12:16 - Much grace very dignity wow

[@FakeFlameSprite]

The game awards are just a corporate popularity contest pretending to be friendly to smaller devs. Wb has money in the pot and was basically promised to get in next year because they submitted late last time TGA basically had to bend the knee, or be blacklisted by a company that does an exorbitant amount of ads

[@Tony_saint]

Was really hoping Mortal Kombat one chaos reigns would be nominated, considering Elden ring DLC was nominated for game of the year

[@bobbyfrost7573]

I actually hope multversus wins again to show how garbage the game awards is

[@bstnicky]

Multiversus and sparking being there over uni and rivals is so sad and just shows the general lack of care of fighting games outside of the committed fgc

[@MrLobran]

Another year expecting the dreadful line "my personal friend, Hideo...' to drop.

[@JBallard19]

How in the HELL did you finish Metaphor in half the time I did on hard!? Wow lol!

[@rooflemonger]

everyone keeps sayiing I finished the game crazy fast and I got no idea how. I did almost every single side content too.