Why They Have a COMPLEX Relationship | The 3 Differences Between Iaido/Iaijutsu & Battodo/Battojutsu

[@georgioskokkinogenis4789]

im normally no comentor, but this man deserve credit, every single video he does it again... keep up the good work, you are unique on youtube

[@daeglan]

I have done many years of swordsmanship both western and Japanese. I think the separation hinders both schools of thought. Doing initial training with an Iato is probably a good idea. But if you dont learn to cut you aren't going to learn the movements as well. And I would think both Battodo and Iado would benefit from learning to do Kendo so you learn to hit a reacting target.

[@lrvz7187]

Agree, honestly, the most interesting would be a bit of all 3, Iato, kendo and Battodo

[@charleshayes2528]

In Karate, there are some Sensei - such as Patrick McCarthy - who have researched to understand the true intent of Kata. Even if Karate is now a budo, it was once an effective art and it is inconceivable that people would practise pretty but ineffective techniques. Although some have made a fetish of pressure point striking for self defence, I believe that Sensei McCarthy does not see his research as necessarily a move away from budo. If his research is correct, then yes, it does make Karate and Karate Kata a more effective self-defence art, but it also preserves the fullness of the art. After all, if the meaning of the movements does not matter, one could indeed practise dance - but that would not be BU-do. So, bringing this back to the sword, it must enrich practice if one understands the meaning and purpose of movements. Also, analysing techniques and questioning their effectiveness was how the various schools were developed. Once one is established in a tradition, it should not be harmful to ask for explanations. It is interesting that, in Shogo's series with Seki Sensei, there are explanations of how and why a technique is applied. (This contrasts with the traditional attitude in Japanese Karate, where explanation was shunned and the student was told that they would understand if the practised harder and more.) Although Iaido techniques have a more aesthetic appearance than the (admittedly little) Iaijutsu I have seen, the primary difference is one of intent. So, it should not be impossible to practise realistic techniques with an aim of improving the self and the character. Another example, again from Karate, is Morio Higaonna, he has a high level of skill and his hands show an immense commitment towards effectiveness, yet he is a kind man who sees Karate as his "way". Tai Chi is another example, this is practised by millions for health, yet the art originally had a very strong reputation for effectiveness and traditional teachers insist that, even when practised slowly, it should be performed with intent and with real techniques in mind. It is interesting that classic Tai Chi schools often have fast forms and two-person forms as well as the slow form. So, one could imagine a situation where there is solo Kata, with a primary emphasis on precision and Budo; alongside solo and paired Kata and some full speed sparring - along with cutting - to retain a sense of realism and focus. This need not imply an intention to become a deadly fighter nor need it be tied to militarism or nationalism, but simply as an appreciation of the sword in all its aspects. If anyone is surprised or offended by my mentioning Karate in a sword-focused discussion, it is because a) when there is disagreement between schools, it is often more diplomatic to provide analogies from outside rather than criticise one side or the other; b) I am not an expert in the history of battodo, although I do know something about Iaido and I have no knowledge of specific Sensei who might illustrate the points I am making by referring to Senseis McCarthy and Higaonna; and finally c) I felt free to mention it because Shogo refers to Karate and specifically to a distinction between a focus on pure Kata and a focus on realistic "fighting" or sparring.

[@Elohist2009]

17:36 this is the true purpose of all martial arts; fighting ability is only a secondary skill. When you learn how fragile the human body and life itself are, you can have a deeper respect for meaningful conversation, and pursue it above all else. Then there’s no need for conflict at all. But even if conflict is unavoidable, you can always de-escalate; and even if fighting is inevitable, a skilled martial artist can protect oneself, as well as their opponent. Hurting/killing is a last resort, and in my own opinion, only necessary when protecting others.

[@RlRmPd]

As a 1st dan kendoka, I love videos like this which delve into the ideology and terminology of a Japanese cultural aspect so close to my heart. Doubly so bc it came on my birthday. Great job Shogo! Hope to see more of your awesome work soon!

[@wave-particle]

For me iaido is an amazing educational system that helps me to understand myself, to find the human features I would like to improve. It helps me to look at myself from a side. And the most interesting, I am much happier person since I have started iaido.

[@lorenzosteele2531]

exactly its about pushing yourself out of your comfort zone and expressing yourself through movement.

[@harisbo6]

i would love to learn iaido but I'm too little lol

[@majmaj2705]

@@harisbo6 lots of schools offer special courses for kids

[@harisbo6]

@@majmaj2705 thank you for info

[@simeonellinger2064]

@@harisbo6 samurai started very young

[@matthewjay660]

Shogo-kun, the speed you set your video at is perfect. It allowed me to digest and crunch in my head the differences between Iaido (train ❤️ & 🧠), Battodo (train to cut 🗡 like samurai), and Kendo (train against a living/moving opponent safely). Arrigato gozaimasu!

[@chrisgk7494]

Have you considered reviewing rurouni kenshin? I would be interesting learning more of the history of the meiji restoration plus the signature move of kenshin is based in buttojutsu.

[@singwong7641]

RrR

[@boombastic627]

Most definitely...

[@_craig.]

+1 Rorouni Kenshin brought me here 😊 and I've been binge watching Shogo's vids since yesterday 😁

[@YJ-7]

The only movie adaptation I actually like more than the anime

[@thegamingghoul9146]

It is a very good live action few story changes but the good bits r there

[@SuperWeeb9000]

I started studying iaido the first time i went to Japan. I fell in love woth it, and have been practicing it ever since

[@kaelyndraws]

When told to set my playback speed to be faster, I felt like I don't need to! Shogo-san, your pacing is alright and the video is easy to understand because of that! :D

[@JochenKai]

100% 👍🏼… i train Kendo & Iaido since 1998… ありがとうございました　for that Video!

[@robertmanson5922]

A fellow sword geek and iaidoka here, Its always good to see more videos about iaido history. Thank you!

[@LetsaskShogo]

●Shogo's Podcast/Sub-channel: [Omake talk] The one and only reason why I hate iaido... Something that I want to change kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWnXYWicg9R2l7c To make a long story short... Iaijutsu & battojutsu were considered basically the same in the past, however iaido and battodo created after WW2 are two different martial arts. This video's topic is very complicated and sensitive, so if you still have any questions please let me know here or through Instagram DM. instagram.com/lets_ask_shogo/ ・ In this channel, you can take a closer look at Japanese traditional culture, tips upon traveling to Kyoto, and social problems in Japan. So learners and lovers of Japanese language and culture, be sure to subscribe to enjoy more content! Please check out the description box for more videos recommended for you! ▼Join our Membership▼ kzbin.info/door/n7DCb9ttrcw9h3vh9dfnVwjoin ●Membership benefits -Limited behind-the-scene videos kzbin.info/aero/UUMOn7DCb9ttrcw9h3vh9dfnVw -Weekly live stream -Priority reply to comments Every single yen we earn from this membership, we will be donating to groups of people who are fighting to solve social problems in Japan, the Japanese schools where foreign students can study, or use it to spread the works of people working with traditional culture in Japan to preserve the arts they are doing. ▼Sub channel “Shogo’s Podcast”▼ kzbin.info/door/ZAe1VayWxp5NLO4Net78DA The perfect channel to learn about Japanese culture and history in your spare time, during your walk to school or work, and when you are cooking or doing house chores. Not only will I be covering the topics in this main channel, but also some topics that you will only be able to enjoy in the sub-channel, like answering questions I receive, and my opinions towards some of the comments. ▼Instagram▼ instagram.com/lets_ask_shogo/ *Please ask me questions through the DM here!（⚠️I do not use e-mail） Thank you again very much for watching!

[@yousefshahin2654]

Definitely going to check out the Omake Talk as soon as I finish this video! :D

[@23traves]

Hey Shogo, I need your opinion on something. I'm a fanfiction writer and I'm planning on writing a Naruto Fanfiction, but after watching this video, I see that the "iaido" techniques and kata used by the Samurai of Naruto look more like Battodo techniques, though Mifune, the Samurai leader, has a scene where he uses a battodo technique from an Iaido sitting position. If I were to separate Iaido and Battodo, would it make sense to separate the two tech issues by classifying Iaido as "defensive" in nature as a means of reaching spiritual enlightenment and protecting one's self in the event of a surprise attack, while battodo is "offensive" and all about ending a battle quickly or keeping the Ninja of the Naruto world from utilizing Ninjutsu and Genjutsu (their mystical techniques in the series to cast elemental spells and illusions)?

[@mideallen202]

Such a wonderful explaination thank you so much.

[@archietyler6759]

Very well put Shogo!!! As a retired practicener of shotokan karate ( due to medical reasons ) I agree with your point of view 100% Thank you for your content and awesome videos!!!

[@imreadydoctor]

I've trained in iaijutsu in Japan. Those of us who own shinken could participate in cutting practices, that are held twice a year during promotions. We also practice standing and kneeling techniques. Even a few two-person drills, which are used with bokuto.

[@lyrad24]

Thank you for this. I just remembered researching on some Kenjutsu and it includes iaido also like the Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu. Hope you can tackle on "noto" also since I think it had been on the artistic side of putting back the sword in its saya as seen in pop-culture.

[@dekar820]

Listening to your commentary brings me a feelings of peace and empathy. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and knowledge. Peace!

[@FujiwarnerCo1dj]

This video was incredibly formatted. Gripping from the beginning. Well done.

[@JosephKerr27]

I liked this comparison and think you make some astute observations. Coming from more traditional schools, I often mix-up Iaido and Battodo.

[@rainieralcantara307]

Not really related, but its like kenshin's transformation from being "battousai" to being the nice guy that is more like a yojimbo to kaori and his friends 😊 Looking forward to learn more from you shogo-san 😁👍

[@hilpealolli5223]

I love how expressive you are

[@tj0927]

Great video as always! Just one thing, depending on the country and its laws, you can use blunt steel swords rather than an alloy for practice. Weight and balance is far better this way.

[@BlackDidThis]

This video of yours... Albeit not my first I have watched by your person; has been my greatest reason of my well-earned respect to you, your style of production and manners in explaining your personal views/observations in a very digestible way regardless the side of the argument one may be choosing to situate themselves in. You have also an undeniable respect to the viewers whilst trying to ensure they fully experience your videos as best they can with what ever ability you would be able to put into them. As a random KZbin viewer, I thank you for the value you are putting into your content. I have chosen to subscribe to view more of what it is you may have to offer.

[@CultureCrossed64]

Oh I didn't realize I was so early to this video. Great content! お疲れ様でした!

[@KingNerdius]

Let's go my man Shogo! Spreading the word that all martial arts are equal and should respected for their differences!

[@TheUnclefester13]

I have come to love watching your videos. Sharing your culture and your passion is something I love. I’ve trained in Shito Ryu karate since I was 16. I share many of your beliefs and concerns. My style taught five sword Katas that I still practice. I took up cutting practice using 2lt coke bottles that are more plentiful here than tatami Matt’s in the states. My teacher taught that kata is the basis of everything. That it was like learning to swim on dry land. It didn’t necessarily teach you how to swim but made you a better swimmer when you did get in the water. That the kata was like a moving encyclopedia. It helped you learn and remember techniques that you needed when you did begin to spar or fight. To me, Iaido, cutting, and kendo are the trifecta of the sword and the samurai spirit. I believe all three should be practice as different levels of the same thing. To separate them is to be like the three blind men each feeling a different part of the elephant. Each style is correct but fails to grasp the whole.

[@kevint.5381]

Thank you for pointing the styles out for us new to the practice of swordsmanship. Very Cool

[@Diglett_Dude]

Thanks once again Shogo for another interesting episode.

[@TopLob]

I started off doing Iaido, then did 10 years of Battodo before I moved on to 7 years of TSKSR, and in my opinion, the arguments you propose for and against Iaido and Battodo are all fairly valid. Moving too far away from the source is of course unrealistic; just doing kata doesn't make you a fighter; real swords are dangerous, and tameshigiri doesn't make you a fighter either. Still, I think all the arts have their value. Iaido gives its practitioners a lot of good culture and ideals to strive for. There isn't always a necessity to include the realism of real swords if the goal is the spiritual practice itself. In Battodo we use real swords which give you a lot more respect for the sword as a weapon, and even just sheathing it carelessly can cost you your life. As a result, I personally know 5 people who have been severely injured because their technique was wrong or they didn't respect the weapon. Iaido vs Battodo is like using softguns vs target shooting with guns. Both have their value in their own setting, but they are very different. To learn to fight with real swords like the samurai did is almost impossible. That's because when we practice, everything we do is with the goal of not hurting or killing each other, which is diametrically opposed to the purpose of a real sword fight. The shinai and bokken cannot replace a real sword. Even if we used real, but dull swords, we would lose the elements an edged weapon adds. And ultimately, there's no practical purpose of being able to fight effectively with real swords in today's world. I know many like to imagine that what they do is the real deal, but I think if we all can accept the limits of our practice, it's easier to see the value in others' practice. Ultimately, the value of the art is what we put into it, and what we get out of it.

[@Kunstdesfechtens]

It’s all about triangulation today. I do kenjutsu, battojutsu, and HEMA for my sword education. They all have value and a piece of the puzzle. To be fair, the ancients didn’t know for sure either until they were in a life and death situation. They had only their non-lethal training until that point.

[@madarasamanta2494]

This was really interesting… I understand the difference between these two martial arts … and really understand what that means when you choose one you basically choose it for life. It is the part of your life. It’s the same for me with the Tai Chi

[@williamkristy2024]

Thank you for this video. This really has answered alot of questions I've had about Japanese swordsman styles I've had.

[@boknoy009]

Thank you for making videos like this. I really enjoy watching video about Japanese culture and Japanese swordsmanship. Although i don't have a martial arts training.

[@Uhlbelk]

Very strong presentation.

[@mbzmbs9569]

This was a good video on "Your swordsmanship isn't real enough", good video for all the details.

[@andreicc201]

Thanks to you, I know the basics of sword drawing in Iaido (only 3) and its fairly easy

[@GlowingSolWellness]

Great Video Shogo. It's always a pleasure and grand learning experience watching your videos

[@musicrock_]

Me: to be good samurai, you have to mastering iaido, batto, kendo, judo, and all other do..

[@outboundflight4455]

I agree. At the end of the day it was once a whole complete style. Those who are serious about Kenjutsu should practice all forms including Iaido(sword movement and body control), battodo(cutting feel and accuracy), kendo(fighting speed impact).

[@anas-432]

It’s katori shinto ryu which teaches almost all the samurai combat forms, but it’ll never be as complete as the real thing, the samurai trained in swordsmanship, horsemanship, archery, strategy, unarmed combat, swimming, climbing, rope tying, etiquette and many things that are not practical for today or needed.

[@outboundflight4455]

@@anas-432 they may not be needed but alot of it is practical just not necessary to learn (people aren't going around killing each other with swords, Yari and bows or walking around with them)

[@Randi-h5q]

@@anas-432 that's like joining the army to be a soldier. Learning how to use one's weapon is just a small part of being a good soldier. The fundamentals have not changed since Man started killing each other aeons ago.

[@anas-432]

@@Randi-h5q it’s a militaristic way of life so it’s similar but it’s different.

[@sun_up]

As someone who used to be a Kendo and Iaido trainee (in Switzerland) I enjoyed your video very much, thank you! Excellently made, loved your illustrations. And yes, being used to a Iaito and seeing adn feeling what blunders happen, I‘d be very very scared at the thought using a katana - especially by beginners…

[@curtismiller4794]

An amazing & educational video this clip was to watch. In addition the techniques you spoke of for Iado & Battodo reminds me of how I was taught years ago by friends who were descendants of Japanese sword users including samurais that as a sword weilder you only draw your weapon to defend yourself & others & especially in a fight like or other life & death threatening situation.

[@danlonick800]

Thank you for such an excellent explanation. This video puts it clearer than any other I've ever seen before my. Well done mate 👍

[@AlMuhtadiMD]

Arigatou Shogo sensei. I've been waiting for this kind of explanation about Battojutsu, I mean Battodo and Iaido.

[@kendosprendlingen590]

Hey Shogo! Thank you for your research in the matter. Can you make a video about fighting with two swords? There is kata from the nitenichi-ryu and also also the kendo nito-ryu.

[@ianbrass9251]

Not to forget the probably most famous samurai/ronin there was Miyamoto Musashi.

[@uruuphiil8335]

your analogy of baseball and softball was the perfect metaphor to draw on. :) Ohayogoizimasu for yet another layer of knowledge! :D

[@Magistrixification]

Your presentation is impeccable, Shogo!

[@Bobtb]

Thank you for your videos Shogo-san. I really like your format and pace a lot. It is obvious to me that you take great care and preparations for your videos. I enjoy and learn a lot from you!

[@francisjang2486]

This video, although briefly explained, also explains the difference between Iaido and Iaijutsu really nice. When I first started Iaido, I always wondered why we weren't cutting faster and stronger. It didn't make sense to me that we are using weapons to only "demonstrate" instead of focusing on "reality". When I told my friend about this after our Kendo practice, he recommended me to visit an Iaijutsu dojo. At first I thought it would be the same thing... but I was so wrong. The ways that are taught were different enough that I felt like I was learning a different martial art. It wasn't particularly a night and day level of difference, but the Iaijutsu dojo focused more on practicality rather than the way of doing each waza and katas like the Iaido dojo I was attending. I did love learning the practicality and other movements that seemed I could really agree on. However, I did end up staying in the Iaido dojo, although the Iaijutsu dojo focused on practicality, some of the concepts they have clashed with what I have been learning for decades(Kendo), which made me leave. Still, I would highly recommend both dojos depending on the person of what they're looking for. Practicality vs Harmony/Self-improvement.

[@yousefshahin2654]

Ok speaking of Sowrds, in the last live of sword training, I was asking if you can do a video about head taking, not necessarily next video, but just someday please. Anyways, great video as usual, keep it up :D

[@arnaudflour-equestrianmart791]

very interesting video, clear explanations !! perfect for French people, thank you. I wish you'll have your million likers ...

[@BboyGraphicx]

This video was absolutely brilliant, enlighting

[@spiritandsteel]

I briefly trained a koryu kenjitsu/battojutsu style for a few years. the purpose of training in koryu is so starkly different than modern budo styles. Koryu are interested in preserving the art form above all else; the personal achievement or fulfillment of the practitioner isn’t really a priority. That’s not to say that old-styles can’t be fulfilling, but it’s not what the arts are focused on. They are aiming to train folks who can uphold and preserve an historical artifact, and if that’s not a thing you can do, they don’t want you. It was a crazy experience totally unlike any other martial art I’ve practiced. And I DEFINITELY didn’t have the discipline for it back when I trained. Great vid as always

[@markreynolds3087]

I appreciate your videos. You have inspired my to sign up for classes in Denton Texas Denton Iaido! Thank you! Keep the videos coming. I also got copy of Miyamoto Musashi’s book of the Five Rings.

[@MasterK9Trainer]

Actually I like to know how the wakizashi fit into the Samurais beliefs and combat strategies. People buy them but it seems like nobody ever uses them or speaks about specifically training with a wakizashi. And I also kind of like to know if the Ninja use the same techniques or did they have to adapt their own

[@stennettb]

It was a defensive sword mainly from my understanding

[@s_s-g4d]

isn't it the sword that was used to cut your own guts when certain conditions were met? also it was the one to fight with indoors where a longer sword could not be used effectively, i believe.

[@RealBrothaProduction]

@@s_s-g4d Wakizashi was used as a backup weapon. Samurai would either carry that, a Tanto or both. But a special Tanto made for ceremonies were made for that. Or on the battlefield, anything sharp would be used.

[@viscant1477]

Love all of your videos! Stay healthy and safe

[@JosephKerr27]

I really enjoy your videos and would like to offer my own experience to improve our mutual understanding. Although you are correct on the differences between these two martial arts, there are some inaccuracies here. Battojutsu existed as part of larger samurai arts well before Hayashizaki Jinsuke formalized Iaido. While the bow was the primary weapon of samurai for centuries, I think it's shortsighted to think that they would simply draw their swords without any special techniques to do it efficiently and effectively. For example, Kashima Shinryu was established in 1473 and already included battojutsu in its curriculum. Whether tachi or more modern variants of katana, these warriors would practice every aspect of warfare, not just start once the sword is unsheathed. The difference between the two jutsu is intent. Battojutsu draws the sword with intent to continue combat. Iaijutsu involves the complete acts of drawing, cutting, and sheathing with the assumption that combat has ended (often from an anachronistic seated position, but I think it's okay to imagine such exercises as useful for drawing wakizashi as well). This difference can be seen in the etymology of these terms. 抜刀 (batto) literally translates as "to draw out (抜) a sword (刀)". On the other hand, iai has a more esoteric translation, with its characters, 居合, not having such a clear cut meaning (pun intended, of course!). 居 can mean "to reside; to be; to exist", while 合 likely means "to meet". So... "To exist in the meeting" might be the easiest translation to English. Thus, battojutsu existed as very real exercises to be used in warfare as part of an overall knowledge set, while Iaido and its techniques were developed with the modern mindset of martial arts. Same as Battodo, these can be seen as sports in the same manner as sportified karate. This is not to diminish these practices as they are useful in many ways, but they are far removed from practical combat. As someone who has practiced Okinawan karate and kobudo for decades (as well as other schools), I see many students fail to understand this distinction. Kata are training tools; crucial parts of a curriculum but useless without the complete set of knowledge. In this manner, I would consider Battodo an incomplete art as much as Iaido. You've drawn a sword and cut... Then what? That's why koryu kata and kihon involve a continued state of zanshin, mindfulness that combat hasn't ended after the technique. Cutting tatami mats is very useful for testing edge alignment, strength, and other aspects, but it is only part of a larger concept of martial science. Once again, I do not seek to diminish these practices. Only discuss the difference between modern schools and the actual combat from which they were born. One final note on practicality: it isn't recommended to sheath one's sword directly after combat as shown in these arts. Blood in the saya is not a good thing for blade maintenance...

[@kennethdarge6931]

Zanshin is practiced in Battodo before noto, as is chiburi. Sorry, just had to pull you up on that one.

[@froobly]

That's Nakamura Taizaburo sensei's book! My kendo sensei has lots of stories of the time he visited Seattle in the '90s. You can find his videos from the '80s on KZbin. It's very different from what you might expect.

[@kennethdarge6931]

Aye... he had a way with dogs and children. 😉

[@MordoGames]

As always, another fantastic video. Thank you for the information. This was an unresolved question that I had carried with me for years.

[@rsxtypesmobbin8661]

I'm new to your channel and realy like the content your putting out!And just subbed!!I used to train iaido back in 2012,but I got diagnosed with a Nasty disease about a year after I started and couldn't keep up training in class, so I trained at my house at my own pace..Thankyou again for the Awesome videos!!✌

[@randalbuhler9042]

Thank you, for all that you share and the gifts and the history of Japan and its culture I am truly grateful, as a student of kendo and the iaido under Sensei Kenshi Nabashima Sama and the Dallas Fort worth Kendo & Iaido club it's nice we can all share culture and ideas between one another and that we are all connected, Domo ‼️‼️‼️‼️

[@namazuryusshugyo5214]

Thank you as always Shogo! I've always wondered why Iaido don't do tameshigiri, but now I know! 🙇🙇🙇👏👏👏

[@evanrutherfordlazyahole9079]

Thanks I've been wondering this forever.

[@jaytomioka3137]

Shogo-san, thank you for your wonderful videos about Japanese culture and martial arts. I am very impressed with each presentation. Not only is the detailed knowledge you give us so well researched, you communicate it very clearly with superb public speaking skills in English. What I appreciate the most is your patient kindness, generosity and gentle heart. Thank you so very much.

[@chadwicmears]

This was very informative content. Thanks for sharing

[@CoryHefner]

Thank you for sharing this information. Your videos are very helpful and presented very logically and concise. Excellent job.. Keep up the good work.

[@rasdiggle]

Solid information from this video keep up the good work.

[@Greenscribbleiguess]

I started iaido because i thought the form is beautiful and the noto is zen in your hands. I seen tatami cutting but the smooth draw and noto is what caught my eye. great video.

[@80Jay71]

I have practiced iaido since 1989. Now the lat few years I've been drawn to kenjutsu. Especially when watching Kuroda-san (many clips on youtube). I started to realize that kenjutsu was what my spirit was trying to tell me all the time.

[@New2Kendo]

I have practiced Kendo, Iaido, and Ishi Yama Ryu. I own several Chinese made Katana and recently ordered a Motohara Katana from Korea. Motohara make a the best Katana outside of Japan and they aren't cheap, but I will get exactly what I want, hand made fittings, blade, and everyrhing is made for each individual Katana. It was $4,500 but if I add together all the Hanwei, Skyjiro, Dynasty Forge, and other Chinese Katana I have owned and currently own, thats a small price to pay to get what I want

[@mosama22]

Wow! This is really a BEAUTIFUL and very informative video! Thank you 😊😊🙏🏻

[@vfranceschini]

love the channel! been watching everyday since i found it! great job Shogo! keep it up and thank you!

[@uniqnjun1078]

Man i always thought u do all the cutting stuffs in iaido. Ive heard abt battodo but i didnt do any research abt it. Thanks Shogo-san for clearing this up ❤

[@bernhardzipfel1489]

Thank you Shogo-san. Beautifully explained!

[@alcateiah]

Japanese culture, its will power and resilience are beautiful examples of great spiritual and mental strength. Congratulations on the video!

[@Shugenjya]

Could you do a vid about the differences between Kata and Waza? And go deeper into each single term! ThX! :)

[@philswaim392]

Muso jikiden eishin ryu combines battodo and iaido and the sitting forms can all be reproduced standing (infact several of the omori ryu originally were standing kata). Also, we do tameshigiri as well. While there's certainly a big differencr between kendo federation iaido and all japan battodo, most of the other schools have different ways of combining the two into a more comprehensive sword art. Must also remember that many eishin ryu sword styles still stem from pre edo styles which used a tachi rather than uchigatana. Even the katori shinto ryu predates edo though it is a more all encompassing martial art system. Lots of great info and insights here. Just wanted to add my observations and understandings through my studies as well. Love your channel!

[@eltreum1]

Thank you for that explanation. That clears up some things I did not understand thinking both were parts of the same martial art. The softball vs. baseball comparison seems very accurate from an American perspective. I share your view that the various disciplines should not need to compete against each other or look down on the other. They each have their purpose and value for their appropriate situations. I would think by having a greater understanding of multiple disciplines you have a wider knowledge and skill set to handle a greater amount of situations. Competence is the well-spring of genuine confidence and character. I think it was a Roman/Greek Philosopher who said something like: Never separate the scholars from the warriors or your scholars will become cowards and you warriors will become fools.

[@jarrowkempojujitsu1422]

I've trained several different styles over the year. There is a lot of sword within the Jujitsu Syllabus I follow. I also started ZNKR (iaido) a couple of years ago to support personal development. I have now had my school accepted into the Zen Nihon Batto Do Renmei so this is a work in practice, but visiting japan in October / November really helped my development in Batto

[@jaybmt3821]

Wow i really like this channel. I learn something every time. Thank you very much!

[@theodorepepe1754]

Well, the WWII after effects certainly help explain why it's so hard to find kenjutsu training today. That said, understanding that the drawing techniques aren't really to be found with kenjutsu instruction is something worth bearing in mind, as while having an already drawn sword may make sense on a battlefield, but for something like a duel (or an encounter with bandits), the ability to skillfully draw the sword does indeed seem like something worth picking up. All of these arts certainly seem to have their merits; thank you for clarifying a bit further as I decide where my focus will be.

[@Rapuvartio]

Thank you, for explaining this, Shogo-dono. I have pondered this question several times; "how is battojutsu different from battodo" or how is "aikido different from aikijutsu". I am a new follower to your channel, but I find it very enlightening. Arigatou gozaimasu.

[@PerfectlyFreedom]

Thankyou for the elightenment, shogo-san! This video is very informative, I feel a little more knowledgeable.

[@dorkyaznguy]

Shodo-san, thank you for teaching me more about my family's culture!

[@CJ-uf6xl]

Brilliant thank you. I practice Eishin Ryu Battoho, you have just answered a lot of questions I had but was struggling to find out.

[@inkee334]

I've been waiting for this

[@deutschesgift4277]

Finally.. Ok So Laido Battojutsu/KenJutsu I now Can See The Path I want take. Thank you for this very informative Video.

[@graw777]

Your vision on this topic is correct. Wisdom is by your side: let it continue guide you the rest of your life. BTW: great content.

[@bluevin2212]

Love your summary of budo. Arigato gozaimasu

[@louislamonte334]

Thank you for this! I would love to practice Iaido with you one day, my friend!

[@stevemolina8801]

Outstanding video, thank you!

[@johnzaknich3979]

G-day young Sir, this is a brilliant video, very informative yet entertaining in a very Japanese style, thank you very much. Cheers.

[@itsteatime3435]

Thanks for the info! This was definitely needed info!

[@Die7Ringe]

Again many thanks for such an excellent video brings an overview on these topics! As a beginner in Iaido it's great to go to the fundamentals of this "Art". As a student in many martial arts for over 20 years, I like to appreciate and underline your point to be respectfull versus other martial arts forms, and thier suggestions to react on a battle situation. I do reccomend to participate in seminars several martial arts are trained, to respectfully feel and train other ways to react on a situation. Anyhow, again my deepes thanks for your great videos. PS may you can add a video focused on the right prononciation of japanese Words? EG I was astonished on the right prononciation of Tsuba

[@ericsmith6692]

thankyou, I love It , love It . I am LEARING ! So much from you . Thank you . eric from south africa

[@Alex-lk7qy]

Great videos. Really thought out and it shows 👍

[@blakmajk3512]

Thank you, Sensei!

[@Harkmagic]

I believe that learning to avoid violence is an important part of enlightenment through martial arts. But a foundational part of that is an intimate knowledge of how to do violence and injure or kill someone. Without the understanding that comes from that knowledge the value of peace and nonviolence is neither properly appreciated or understood. An essential element of pacifism is the ability to do violence and choosing not to. Without the ability to do great violence choosing not to do harm is not pacifism, but simply harmlessness.

[@gurreu]

So informative and interesting! Thank you for sharing bro :)

[@jorgequinteros145]

Nice video, really interesting. Thank you so much for your work!!

[@nyndzowoz]

I really enjoyed the video, thank you for your time spent delving into the topic! There is something I would like to ask you, as a battodo practitioner - from what I heard battodo schools have rather practical view and they use both iaito and shinken, depending on the type of exercise, as we do in our school as well. I never heard of schools using only shinken for the daily pratice like "from day 1" as you mentioned in the video, but it may very well be my lack of knowledge - I'll ask our hanshi about that next time I see him. In general iaito and shinken are indeed different, and person changing from iaito to shinken won't feel very comfortable at the beginning in most cases. They differ, as we both know, apart from being sharp or not, especially in two areas: balance of the blade (weight distribution) and weight itself. Those differences are very noticeable and it takes time and practice to wield a shinken as fluently and technically correctly as lighter iaito. Some shinken models are good at blurring the differences, where thinner blade and longer grip can change balance from feeling "cutting purpouse only" (wider blade, weight more to the tip) and instead, while keeping the same weight, create a feeling of a swift, manoeuvreable blade which I prefer personally. Our hanshi, from the very beginning, pointed that using both would be the best solution for balancing risk and effectiveness of the training. Let me provide an overview of our "good practice", for you to have a comparison. We use bokkens for kihon and kumitachi (in general no kyu and lower kyu students use bokkens for all the tasks), then we use iaito for kihon and kata (all students owning iaito) plus kumitachi (only high kyu students and higher, because of the risk involved). Then we use shinkens (all kyu students owning a shinken) for kata (on the cutting trainings only, before tameshigiri) and for tameshigiri. Additionally, we practice chanbara at the end of the trainings (idea of kaicho Tetsundo Tanabe) as an easy and low cost way to test the technical skills we train. This is very efficient way to test your stamina, distance feeling and practical use of your techniques, I know it's getting more popular over last years, and even as it has it's flaws when comparing to real fighting, when being part of a wider training plan it fills the gap very well. This way, the risk of doing harm to yourself or other practitioners is lowered exponentially, plus we get used to both training and live blade simultaneosly. Apart from that, I agree with the thesis you mentioned in the video, that it is fundamental thing to feel the responsibility of holding a shinken in your hand, having other people around you - if you are ready for it mentally, from the first moment you do it, everything changes from psychological perspective, you reach the core, origin you could say, of the thing you train, where it came from - and this is why we work so hard for achieving and keeping proper zanshin during trainings. Awareness, control of your body and mind is what all budo practitioners look for in the traingings, is it not? :) No matter what martial art we follow and which path we take. Best regards from Poland!

[@TheBanishedWind]

Were you able to pose your question to your hanshi? If so, what did he say? For myself, regarding the conflict between iaidō and batōdō, I've come to believe that one should learn both and seek a balance within themselves between the two philosophies. Shogo-kun is correct that to slander/deny the other style than the one you learn is a mistake unworthy of art itself. One I feel could be best corrected via the course of action I laid out above.

[@astavas8341]

It is probably Toyama-ryu, Nakamura ha. The book he is reading there is the one from Nakamura Taizaburo sensei, and the passage he paraphrased is the one I am very familiar with. You can dig it up more for yourself what is Toyama-ryu and their past.

[@hippykidd1363]

This was extremely helpful thank you Shogo-san

[@javierguerrero953]

I am very interesting in armed martials arts from all the world. I like the way the "do" focus on the metal aspect of oneself, but also the aspect of "jutsu" to cultivate the skill. In Historical Europeans Martials Arts practise more the "jutsu" of the ancients tecnique that some masters write 500 years ago, but I also believe that a strong mind is important in martials arts and in life in general, so i guess the "do" and the "jutsu" parts are important to me. Thanks you for the video