Have I Discovered the Poor Man's Mizuno Irons??

[@MrMatthew262]

I’m so glad you featured these on your channel because I think having these types of value clubs available in market will make people realize how fun golf can be. I feel like the sets now getting up to $1500 there is so much expectation from clubs like that to perform and they will hardly ever live up to them if you’re not good enough. Clubs like this will make people focus on the game more so than the equipment.

[@Simplycomfortfood]

Great review, Gabe. I have to laugh a bit. Feel and sound is important. Knowing where you hit the ball on the club, very important. However, I am trying to remember the last time I've heard a pro after a bad round during the press conference say, "I just notice some very small flaws in my iron blade along with some shading issues on the finish. I am sure that is what cause me to shoot a 75". Bottom line, if you are buying a set of irons that retails for less than 500.00, flaws and minor imperfection doesn't mean a hill of beans. The fact that it was more accurate and held its own with a 1400.00 set of clubs, I can live with a little imperfection. My wife does everyday. Lol

[@Alandale45]

A poor man's Mizuno? No. I think not. I am still gaming the 1969 MacGregor MT Muscle back with diamond frames on the face. Similar muscle back design has been appreciated in many other "premium" blades including the Mizuno MP29 (Tiger Woods) and Maruman Conductor models. There was a time MacGregor was the most innovative golf clubs manufacturer in the world. Thank you for reviewing this release of the MacGregor MT. It's a heritage brand that means a lot to many people. I look forward to adding it to my collection.

[@pheibsgaming]

Can you please review the new MacGregor MACSPDs?

[@waywardwest]

Just saw those for the first time earlier today and those look really nice! I hope he does review them since he's already reviewed the Takomo, Callay, Maltby TS1-IM, and Mizuno 245s.

[@jbroadwell1]

I have owned both the MACSPDs and the Maltby TS1 IM irons. The MACSPDs are longer and more forgiving, whereas the IMs allow me to work the ball more. I have been more consistent with the IMs but the MACSPDs are awesome clubs that rival them IMO

[@mannymiranda9357]

I purchased the MT-PRO. They play and look great. No blemishes on my set!!! You can’t beat the price!!!!

[@TZOID08]

The MacGregor Irons most likely coming from a manufacturer forging house in china that companies like New Level Golf use. They are pretty good in tolerance and the feel is pretty amazing for the $$$.

[@calebm2161]

I'm loving this Macgregor love Gabe!!! Warms my heart!! Nice to see it stack up every bit as good, if not better, than the Mizuno's. I adore my Macgregor irons inhave right now. Even if they are a little older set.

[@LetsPlayThru]

Which model?

[@shanewilliams1216]

Just a Re-make of the Mizuno T-Zoid Forged irons I used many many years ago, they were nice irons , I even played the T- Zoid Forged Driver !

[@LetsPlayThru]

Yes, I had a set of those 🙌

[@tonythaiger93]

I still game T-zoid fairway 5 wood. Best feeling fairway wood that keeps me in fairway for past 20 years!

[@shanewilliams1216]

@@tonythaiger93 I have bought and traded so many clubs through the past 40 years , those Mizuno Forged T-zoid irons were a set I wish I would have hung on too! Hard to believe Mizuno lost focus on their metal woods back in the day as they made some fine Woods and the T-Zoid forged were DAMN FINE !

[@waywardwest]

Those Macs remind me of my Mizuno MX-20s. I played my best golf to date with those clubs. The best thing I loved about them was the sole grind. I haven't been able to find another set that played like those. Ive been thinking about the Srixon ZX-5 but these MacGregor's look like they might be what I'm looking for.

[@JOHN-z3o8p]

Those nicks may be from a loft and lie machine..they are in the same spot on every club..

[@jlnew10]

For me quality control isn't about a few marks on on forged clubs which of course are going to look a lot worse after about 3 rounds. It has more to do with lofts, lies, length sw etc. And the scary thing is if you take a new set of irons from the big OEM's into a shop just to be spec'd out you'll find they are generally all over the place.

[@LetsPlayThru]

Very true. Interestingly enough, some have surmised the marks are from them checking loft.

[@carlosGarcia-xl1ql]

You had me at poor man’s mizunos!! lol. I think I would still lean towards the tour edge hot launch..

[@RiverCityBBQ]

Will you be trying out the Macspeed irons? They look interesting.

[@FLefty18]

Can you please do the Macspd irons? I had some beers, got frisky and ordered a set- whatever, just want to know what I’m getting into now. Thanks!!

[@StephenFugarino]

Been playing the 243s for about 4 months now and absolutely love them, never tried those mcgregor irons, but out of every club I’ve ever hit over my 30 years of golfing nothing comes close to Mizunos

[@saverioweidl2950]

Good Morning Gabe! I just bought 4-pw heads and they are perfect! No dings! Assembling them now. Thanks for your reviews! Play well, Saverio

[@LetsPlayThru]

Great to hear it, hope you enjoy them!

[@Smalltownweldz]

You need to test the macgregor macspd irons

[@jayharris7015]

The MacGregprs remind me so much of the Takomo 201 from the bottom and address

[@huddwah]

Hey Gabe, you look great having lost weight.. congrats ! I'd love to see a video about how you lost weight and/or how it has impacted your golf game? I don't see this kind of content specifically for golf anywhere E.g. do you swing better? Has it changed your swing feels? Do you feel better after a round, recover better? And generally how do feel how much better etc?

[@16pennynails]

The Mac has a Taylormade rac tp forged vibe going for me, really really like that look! Taylormade's yet to be released P7CB has that retro rac vibe also. Judging just off the seven iron alone the MT's are solid scoring clubs, absolutely smoked the mizzy! Do those two shafts match up, the dynamic gold I'm familiar with not so much with kbs.

[@macdaddyblues1]

It does! I thought the design looked familiar but couldn't place it... good job!

[@jonbuikema7399]

Interesting option. Could there be 1020 vs 1025 steel differences over the years on the wear and tear? After years of owning and playing Mizuno 800, 850 and now 923 Forged sets those older ones still looked amazing 5+ years later. Wonder what are the long term durability outcomes of any 1020 steel irons? Glad to see some lower cost options.

[@LetsPlayThru]

That’s a great point. I suppose time will tell.

[@AZstu324]

My understanding has been that 1025 is the standard for perfect soft forged feeling steel while maintaining some adequate level of durability. 1020 crosses the line into "too soft" and the difference in feel is negligible but the faces could wear out much too quickly. That's just from reading and forum discussions so who really knows?

[@jonbuikema7399]

@@AZstu324 Thank you! Exactly. I play 75-100 days a year. In Iowa. It can be cold, hot, rain, wet often. Saving money is great but if after 2 seasons these lower cost irons are wearing down you are not saving much money. 1025 is higher quality to start and costs more. That is why others like Mizuno, etc. cost more as well. They retain value also

[@stevew7964]

Gabe- New subscriber here- I'm enjoying the channel! I'm in the market for new irons (mine are 15+ years old). I was hoping you could give me a quick bit of feedback on 3 irons you've reviewed (Maltby TS3 forged, Wilson Dynapower Forged and Macgregor MT Milled). Are any of these 3 suitable for a 25 handicapper or do they not have enough forgiveness? Thanks!

[@michaelfreeman4250]

I might be replacing my Stealth irons. So I might give these a look or the new forged Wilson's

[@LetsPlayThru]

Can’t go wrong with either of those options

[@Thataintnothing]

Should check out the TAKOMO Irons ,I have the 101’s Forged Hollow Body = Awsome Feel and Distance!

[@BB-pg5kl]

The Wilson Dynapower and Dynapower Forged are awesome irons 🍻

[@TestStripSteve]

You Should look at the Maltby TS3 Forged Irons . I just received mine last week . They are Unbelievable like butter Irons. Great feel all around . !! $519. Plus Delivery. At least take a look at The Maltby TS3 forged iron set .

[@SteveInUpperMI]

Nice! 🔥 While it's not a Maltby...not bad from another M 😁

[@Barneyrubble241]

I gotta try those Maltbys. After Gabe rated the TS3's God Tier clubs I have been thinking about ordering a single iron to try. Do you play Maltby?

[@josepharnold1345]

@@Barneyrubble241I built a 8,9,pw in the TS3, love them

[@vic0445]

@@Barneyrubble241 I ordered a set of TS3s (4-GW) after building a TS3 7 iron to test ... easily the most forgiving forged iron on the market.

[@mathieubellavance2506]

​@Barneyrubble241 I've been gaming the ts1 for the last 3 years and you couldn't pay me to switch my irons. When I get new clubs they will be maltbys again. Loved them so much I bought a 5 wood that I love as well.

[@vic0445]

@@mathieubellavance2506 I played the TS1s before switching to the TS4 ... the TS3, while being a bit thicker top-line-wise, is the most forgiving forged Maltby iron to date.

[@Brolicherbs]

7:57 it's not about country of origin per se, it's about the specific manufacturers being used. It's misleading at best to suggest that merely because something comes from x country, it's inferior. In the 70s, people used to trash on stuff from Japan as inferior, and in Michigan some people (that is, bigots) still refer to Japanese cars as "rice burners".

[@jason109301]

Looks like a Taylor-made RAC TP

[@douglasgardner4004]

I' m playing Pro 223 irons now. I've tried the D2C route with Takomo and find that these sorts of mass produced irons work fine and feel good but look too chunky for my tastes. This is especially the case in the PW and 9 iron. I find the Pro 223 much more refined. In the D2C arena I think that Maltby is the best. My 2nd set is the T1 IM and those look great throughout the set. Just can't stomach those squared off top lines and high hosels on these McGregor's.

[@LetsPlayThru]

Unfortunately, I don’t have the Maltby in front of me, but to my eyes, these actually looked thinner on top. Now the offset is a different story. I understand some folks wont get past that.

[@Jm-db8hj]

Which would you lean more towards the macgregors or the takomos??

[@k.b.3832]

No matter the cost, that’s amazingly poor quality control. I am shocked that a company would send a new set of irons in that condition. I would have shipped them right back. Sad because they seem to be a good club.

[@LetsPlayThru]

It was def a disappointment. A few folks mentioned the marks there could be from checking the lofts of the clubs before they were shipped. If so, thats good in a way, but still would not be thrilled as a consumer.

[@tracehancock4443]

I bought my mt pros and they were in absolutely flawless condition when they arrived 2 weeks ago. And they feel just as good as my mizunos I switched from. They say nothing feels like a mizuno, but I beg to differ.

[@obxarms7685]

@@LetsPlayThru But wait are all those marks flaws or are we also looking at water droplets??

[@a.m.doesit9347]

how about the MacGregor MACSPD Irons?

[@LetsPlayThru]

Worth a look for sure.

[@jameshorwath5425]

@@LetsPlayThruyes please do a review of the MACSPD irons!! I’ve been thinking of getting them but absolutely no reviews out there

[@bmos212]

Awesome review, I'd say they look more like ZX7s except for the sole

[@LetsPlayThru]

That's a great comparison too

[@bmos212]

@LetsPlayThru yeah, love the videos, I've seen you out a carrolwood. Keep up the great work. IM the Mst Club Fitter at Golf Galaxy!! Awsome stuff

[@LetsPlayThru]

Oh very cool!

[@AZstu324]

Would be curious to know if fhe McGregors are in-house designed or a factory model like a few of these "resurgent" companies are doing to save costs. They look good but also look kind of generic IMO.

[@LetsPlayThru]

It's a good question. I haven't seen any cavity backs with quite this same construction, but others here have referenced the New Levels. I'll try and find out.

[@bwmillworkinc.9496]

@@LetsPlayThru Apparently the owner designs the MacGregor irons and has had consulting designers including ex Callaway VP and a current Titleist designer consulting on them. MyGolfSpy along with others have had articles about the designs being original. Great reviews, enjoying them!

[@carlbeaumont5167]

The McGregors look very much like Mizuno T-Zoids from the 90's

[@obxarms7685]

Still looking in top shape bro! Keep'in those extra Lbs off! Nice to see MacGregor making an effort to stay relevant.

[@LetsPlayThru]

Thanks man. On my list to come up your way. I’ll hit you up when I do.

[@obxarms7685]

@@LetsPlayThru Awesome, played the Currituck Club with my boy the other day. Good times.

[@alanduncan9204]

Dispersion wins it. You were half as close on average with the MacGregor 5 and 7 irons and with more balls hits you could have got the same result with the 9. When I bought my last set of clubs I tested Titleist against MIzuno and bought the Titleist clubs. If Mizuno clubs are so much better then more Pro's would use them on tour but this is not the case. So maybe overrated ?

[@LetsPlayThru]

Looking back on this, I agree...The dispersion was scary good with the Macs...def have to put them in the conversation as one of the most accurate irons I've tested this year.

[@pdmv8471]

It is more of the case of which OEM pays the most pros to play their clubs...as opposed to choice. Quite a few pros not on contract play Mizuno irons and quite a few play Ping drivers.

[@454budman]

Mt vs Takhomo?

[@T35LA]

these macgregors look more similar to my miura cb-57

[@East_Tennessee_Golfer]

How dare you talk about my Mizuno brand name that way!

[@ryanthorp7662]

As a UK viewer it's really frustrating to see you review equipment and parts that just are not sold across the pond. Maxfli being another brand that do not sell their balls in the UK. These new MacGregor irons would sell as a direct competitor to the Takomo and sub 70 irons sold in the UK.

[@AZstu324]

If you haven't already, check out the Maltby lineup. They're world -ship friendly and have a really nice line up for all levels. Cheers!

[@Left-Foot-Brake]

THEY are sexy looking irons.... there is a LOT of hype about Japanese clubs. Don't get me wrong, they're beautiful, but so are these Mac-G's. I'm interested!

[@lonnyfuller]

If you get the same spin rates and distance with the less expensive clubs then the desperation is the key. Give me the 500 dollar clubs all day.

[@macdaddyblues1]

That pitching wedge has waaaay to much offset, why in the world would you design that into this style of club? Big miss there, otherwise very nice!

[@LetsPlayThru]

Def more offset built into the entire set than you see with similar players cavity backs. Must admit at first I was skeptical, but I think having the stronger loft somehow makes up for that so it just seems to work. I get that low handicappers may not want to see it though.

[@chadanfinson2937]

Look a little like takomo 201

[@9teej]

They look great value, but the sole is not even remotely similar. The one major thing that can differentiate club sole, relief, is totally opposite. Saying they are the same is absurd.

[@LetsPlayThru]

I was referring to similar thickness and shape. I pointed out the relief was different. I think I prefer the McGregor grind actually.

[@GolfRx]

Wow .. the dispersion on mizuno is horrible!!!! .. I would replace it .. might be shaft

[@kentbernard9842]

Obvious It looks more like the TM P-7CB. Compare those.

[@Nobody2day553]

I thought mizuno was for poor ppl....

[@faroutgolf3650]

Gabe, no you got it all wrong! These MacGregor Irons are knockoffs of the late great TaylorMade 300 forged irons..... That is a big complement. I have three TaylorMade V-Steels fairway woods that are still the best fairway woods ever designed....

[@LetsPlayThru]

I can see that resemblance, but these believe it or not feel a lot better