Epic Me Up: World's fastest server CPUs with 7763 75F3 7713 Shakeup with Milan

[@Level1Techs]

+ Openbenchmark link coming soon! Can't publically test until after the release. Hope you enjoyed! ~ Editor Amber

[@AbyNeon]

can you kindly make a threadripper pro with asus motherboard video but using NON ECC GSKILL OR TEAMGROUP MEMORY with higher xmp profiles and see if the motherboard will make the cpu support it.. eg 3600 mhz at cl 14 etcetc...thanks.

[@emboop2346]

Wow ...such powerful cores and possibilities..glad you were able to get so many of them

[@vitomirjovanovic2226]

Professionally done review, how many points did You have in the Cinebench test with dual configuration 7763?

[@Frank-xn8ci]

Y

[@ruthleshunter]

i have no idea what wendell just said, but his exitement is a bit contagious.

[@theWanAndOnly]

you know Wendell is getting serious when he's donning his lab coat

[@TheBasmatiRice]

I would like to thank you Wendell for being a huge inspiration. Been following you since the early Tek Syndicate days and I’m soon to be graduating in Cyber Security and I wouldn’t be half as interested in computers without your videos many moons ago. Thanks to the rest of Level1Techs too. Krista and Ryan are so great. Fantastic team!

[@GlennBerrySQL]

Nice video, Wendell!

[@Level1Techs]

The literal MVP on the windows testing. Thanks again!

[@ReubenHanson2809]

3D Chess like no other.

[@chexquest87]

Star Trek 😎

[@abao]

4 layers so 4D Chess

[@titaniummechanism3214]

The intro music sounds like it belongs in a talkshow. "And this is your host for tonight: Wendell!"

[@crazylocha2515]

Wendell: AMD sent me a $50k gift in March and it's not even my Birthday!! Santa Claus: Sooo socks this year??

[@davidg4512]

Notification squad after watching the announcements.

[@Level1Techs]

Wooo! ~ Editor Amber

[@camofelix]

Can't wait for the "Cheap" xeons to come out for this cycle!!

[@jimbrionze4469]

Cheap? Good luck.

[@nathanlowery1141]

Still waiting haha

[@jack8407]

MOAR POWAH!

[@spl4t1]

Subscribed. Keep the enterprise stuff coming. We are getter some of these quoted out to replace our Skylake sql hosts. That's if we can get the 75f3's as they are in high demand. Forgot completely about upgrading vsphere from 6.5 to 7.

[@zaqueodeleon]

uffff, cant wait to get 2 of these!!!

[@samuelschwager]

Built a 1st gen EPYC workstation a while ago, hoping for used rome prices to drop ;)

[@5lickwi11]

Awesome breakdown

[@gulllars4620]

Casually setting world record benchmarks, like a boss :) Looking forward to more deep dives on this. Just for feedback, as a dev myself I'd love to see a bit more drill-down on the DevOps type workloads. It's hard to find good info on that, and build systems can be painfully slow. As someone who deals with multi-TB databases, I'd also love to see more on MS SQL on Milan. Does this new architecture give a larger boost to OLTP, OLAP, or warehouse type workloads? Or maybe all of them? I just imagine the scale-up warehouse monster you could make with either 2x 75F3 or 2x 7763 with 128 PCIe 4 lanes hosting NVMe SSDs like those Kioxia drives and 4TB of memory. (or maybe save one x8 or x16 slot for a 100GBE or 200GBE adapter for backups, data ingestion, and data export). In cloud DBs like Azure DW you can get massive scale-out to 60 compute nodes, but if your data model and/or workload doesn't shard and distribute well, you could potentially get higher performance with a single scale-up bare metal host with such a massive local resource allocation (due to scale-out's data movement bottleneck). That's something I think many people don't consider.

[@x3roxide]

5:20 - omg that loose thread... want to cut it.... wait, no.... rip it... yeah rip the thread.... threadripper

[@asdf51501]

And here I am all excited that I recently bought a 3970x and get to build that machine soon.

[@nnasab]

I am retired now, but your video was extremely informative and shows how fast the technology changes by leaps and bounds every few years.

[@Level1Techs]

Things felt a bit stagnant before Zen entered the scene. With 3rd gen Zen, everything is in place for Rocket-Emojii

[@asdf51501]

That intro... I knew I subscribed for a reason.

[@wcg66]

Love it! Stealing Intel's market share on the desktop is a punch in the gut. Stealing Intel's market share in the enterprise market is a kick a little lower :)

[@kmi187]

Yeah, it may sting a little.

[@llothar68]

It's always that way in Hard and Software Technology: Gen1 is to get it out, Gen2 is to make it stable and only at Gen3 you start to optimize and add nice things.

[@SirReptitious]

I'm just a lowly end-user, so I will never need more than an 8-core Ryzen(and I am actually still rocking an FX-8350 as my main system). But as a geek, I can appreciate the silicon pr0n. ;-)

[@fabiankluivert8904]

Bless this content

[@opteronprimext6867]

This is something I could consider, thank you for your sweet content XD

[@Level1Techs]

You're so welcome! ~ Editor Amber

[@mdd1963]

07:58 MS-SQL licensing costs for SQL on 64 cores-- $439K! LOL!

[@karanvora2674]

Just switch to postgres then.

[@dakoderii4221]

License, fees, and taxes. Great ways to squash any upcoming competition with better ideas than your own.

[@gdrriley420]

I know some HPC facilities that have Milan supercomputers installed now. xeon phi 10nm being a bust hurt their plans Nersc just stated they've gottten in Phase one with 6000, A100 and 1500 Milan CPUs

[@abdulsadiq8873]

Wendel + Epic = good times

[@tokiomitohsaka7770]

32 and 24 core epic up to 4GHz, that’s EPYC! Seriously considering it for my next virtualisation server.

[@hotforrobot]

Fresh, technical content to blur away the Monday blues

[@ThatKoukiZ31]

I have no need for it but I watched it. The I got an ending add with Dr Lisa Su. Lol at least they are advertising on the right channels!

[@NarekAvetisyan]

If this is the kind of performance now, Imagine what they'll do next year with DDR5, PCIe 5.0, more cores and hopefully SMT4! Pure rendering and computational madness! Now, if only AMD sped up the Threadripper release timeline that also would be great!

[@crazylocha2515]

With this much improvement from AMD on Zen 3 Epyc, '22/'23 Zen 4 Epyc is going to be brutal for Team Blue. 14nm 8 core at same top tdp as a Zen 3 64 core, and 10nm (Samsung process) still cracking silicon from the heat on anything above laptop grade, looking like a few more years before Intel gets back into the game even with nasty price cutting. Kudos to AMD on the performance each generation. Not easy to do.

[@FabiVoltair]

Fascinating chips 🥳😍

[@666CoDFREAK]

9:34 Yes we see what you did there :)

[@goforbrokefilmstudios]

Queen to Queen's level three.

[@bdbgh]

I wish the company I'm at had the cash flow to pick up an epyc based server, a lot of clients had to do "I owe you" credits for most transactions last year.

[@osgrov]

Very exciting chips, for sure. Here's hoping we'll get a Threadripper version of the 73F3, that'd be the perfect chip for me. :) Until that happens, I'd love to see you assemble a workstation using Milan. What options are out there now, is it possible to make a good DIY build based on Epyc?

[@Gazereths1234]

Do you think any of the older Epyc CPU's will have a second life in price to performance home user builds? Kinda like the x58/x79/x99 Xeons? When server admins upgrade will the mobo's become super available same as CPU's seem to be? Do you think the chinese mobo manufacturers can bodge together a board that will run them using a different chipset?

[@lastone032085]

That's already been happening. I got a 7742 for under 2k from a company selling them off for the newer models. I should have gotten 2 now that they are trending towards 3K used now.

[@ThePoot_tf2]

I want it even if i dont need it "I NEED ITTTT"

[@marcin_karwinski]

And now it's time you build a compute node miniWS with the Asrock mITX board, some SFF case or maybe Fractal's Node 304 so you could use the 6x3.5" bays filled with 3.5"-to-dual-2.5" trays brimming with U.2 PCIe4x4 Kioxias interfaced through the use of the 6xPCIE4x8 slimline links of the mobo split to 12xPCIe4x4... and use one of those 7xF3 or multicore sweetspot SKUs. You're getting one great unit in a small package that can presumably run circles around the Threadripper, were it not for the resulting limited I/O in terms of USBs or lack of audio card or WiFi ;)

[@trisjack82]

***Correction the CD6 is a U.3 drive not U.2 ... not that it matters

[@llothar68]

How is IBM Power 9 and Oracle SPARC doing compared with this monster?

[@WillFuI]

Epic go brrrrrrr

[@yassenaf8858]

Same video in 2 channel’s im confused where ill watch

[@Level1Techs]

no! different videos! watch both!

[@dermothoyne2393]

First AMD recently teased up, them higher PCIe laned TR variants. To now start up server chips, with Zen3 perks [while still being SP3 drop-in friendly too]. At the rate of TR progression...will they label next realm of Threadrippers, as socket sTRX99?

[@ciaduck]

@5:25 NOOOO! The THREAD!

[@skilletpan5674]

Yet another reason why lego construction is superior! "Oh dear! We found XYZ security flaw in the memory controller. Eh. Just make a fixed new core".

[@Epsilonsama]

Hey Wendell have you tried installing Gentoo on a machine with the 7763 or 75F3?

[@Nacalal]

God I'd kill to have one of those for kernel compiling, you could probably build the stock arch kernel in seconds. Shame current gen enterprise hardware costs.

[@SkipperGoesDark]

Thanks for a great video. Did you run the SQL Server loads inside VMWare VMs?

[@menhirmike]

AMD lists a 120W TDP for EPYC 7003 (at 2:25), but the lowest TDP seems to be the EPYC 7313 with 155W - do you know if that's just a typo or if a 120W SKU is still coming? Curious about whether it would be worth upgrading from an EPYC 7282 for a Storage/VM Server.

[@jasonhowe1697]

I would have to wonder if you used the server as a game storage platform for consoles and pc's what would be the lan and usb performance would be because from a remote play perspectives you reduce lag having a system that could be built to host up to 8k and not have the console do the work load in storage... my question would be to also ask has sata/sas got the physical bandwidth to cater up to 100TB m.2 sata or m.2 nvme or are we still have the same issues where bus speed is a limiting factor... Because with 1.8 petabyte system you are still governed by limitations of the spindle speed of hdd.. whether it be in the realm of 7200 rpm, 10,000 rpm or 15,000 rpm spindle speed.. even at 7200 rpm whether it be a single disk or 100 bandwidth across a lan wouldn't exceed 100Mbps

[@heckyes]

Will some of this awesome trickle down into TR?

[@WesSites]

What's that sound, boiler snake? Nope, that's the sound of all the hosting companies dropping all their Xeons on ebay for pennies on the dollar!!!!

[@ironmantooltime]

Sure hope so

[@Maxjoker98]

20:17 What is the tool used to graph all this?

[@OTechnology]

Can't wait for cheap skylake xeons in aliexpress

[@andljoy]

VMWare testing!!!!

[@Level1Techs]

No more edge cases! It all just works and is face melting!!!

[@andljoy]

@@Level1Techs can it make windows 10 scaling not suck on VDI ? And can it fix the 50 bodge jobs I have had to fix to get this 710 environment working . News flash last guy who worked on this 12 NSX VMs cannot share one IP

[@PRiMETECHAU]

Hmmm, 18s to compile Linux kernel, wish my 3600 cpu could do that. :)

[@pkt1213]

Sounds like an Epyc processor.

[@Sunlight91]

I was wondering why anyone would buy these low core cache monsters. So some users are limited by software licensing cost and not by the hardware.

[@itsdeonlol]

You know it's real when Wendell puts on the lab coat!!

[@craig_s_bell]

The loose thread on his lab coat is triggering my OCD. He should really rip that thread

[@plapbandit]

He's got the lab coat out lads, brace yourselves for the science

[@henkhenk410]

Where r the VDI-benchmarks? :)

[@TranswarpXL]

I'd like to run my Stockfish 13 chess engine on this. Really test the node depths and discovery lines :)

[@OOJokerOO1991]

maybe I can get my hands on one of these in a few years for way less money :D

[@b2bb]

4D chess for that engagement baby

[@MrBiky]

**Crying in Java** I'm a Linux sysadmin for a medium company. We're pretty cheapskates when it comes to server infrastructure, because our (relatively small 2 racks) data center is only meant for development of lots of versions / modules of the same software for different clients. I've been trying to make even a Ryzen 7 5800x build workstation to run Jenkins and compile software for a while. I'm salivating after a 16 core Epyc, but even the r7 5800x would be a huge improvement over a VM running 4 different Jenkins servers on a Xeon E5 2620v3 (only 6 threads given, also runs lots of other VMs concurrently).

[@TheBibliofilus]

Meanwhile Intel's Xeon division is in a corner crying..

[@spiralout112]

Sometimes I start to feel bad for them, but it doesn't take long to remember that intel doesn't deserve a single ounce of sympathy. Womp womp.

[@Teluric2]

You need vacations

[@Gamescommentary]

That is one 1337 price

[@MickeyMishra]

Okay, so when are these Monster core machine servers going to be on ebay for $100 bucks? I'm waiting for that to happen because I would actually one day like to see blender actually work at the speed of light

[@PWingert1966]

Do you think that this is significant enough to cancel the Intel Aurora contract given that it may see a five-year delay because the 7nm process is a complete wash and is in deep jeopardy?

[@shadowarez1337]

Looking into hosting some game servers for friends here I want to go all out would it be better to get high single thread performance fast ram (4000mhz) and super fast storage like sabrent rocket Plus 2TB drive's in raid?

[@shaynegadsden]

For game servers i think a 5950x would be enough, 3600mhz low latency ram going beyond 3800mhz generally has a negative effect so unless you need more than 16 cores the desktop line is probably the way to go it has higher clocks and is cheaper and i dont think you even need to go that crazy on the storage there was some benchmarks done and when it comes to games as long as you have an ssd your pretty much right there wasnt much to gain from higher speeds if you need a bit more than that threadripper would be the next step

[@shadowarez1337]

@@shaynegadsden was thinking would a ramdisk make any difference for these. I have 128GB of ram and the sever will only take about 30GB-40GB

[@jagc2206]

Hey! I recognise 3d chess when I see it 😀, and I see it!

[@mirrorking2]

what was the r23 score?

[@stephenreaves3205]

Please install Gentoo on this machine

[@crazylocha2515]

They have "Level 1 LINUX" channel for a reason. Also.... Forum. Just sayin

[@stephenreaves3205]

@@crazylocha2515 true, I do love their forum, but their Level1Linux doesn't get updated as often. So I thought I'd throw this out here, especially because this is them announcing the CPUs

[@crazylocha2515]

@@stephenreaves3205 oddly, got the Level 1 LINUX notification before this one. Worth the watch (hint LoL) Don't forget to hit the bell 🔔 for instant notifications 😋

[@maikel3572]

You have Dr. Lisa Su on speed dial or something?

[@murphy7801]

Ah wonder how long till I'm renting these from aws on my work bill

[@calciumgoodness4073]

I didn't get this video in my subscription feed

[@zCaptainz]

Yo? Where are all the gaming benchmarks with the 7443P? Wtf

[@tmi1234567]

Lol Genoa is going to roflstomp. Intel might have SOMETHING by next year that will not be as fast as Millan. 96 cores and all the performance.

[@dakoderii4221]

Years ago I said that AMD and Intel's need to increase cache sizes and that AMD's sectioning of their CPUs back in FX days was a brilliant plan that would pay off. Most people disagreed and I listened and now my wallet suffers. I have a nack for seeing things in the future and then screwing it up somehow.

[@llortaton2834]

But wendell tell us can it mine monero?

[@mdd1963]

AMD's pricing is awesome compared to INtel's 3x model....$28K per top 28Core CPU vs. $8k for 64 each better cores?

[@davidgeekly1769]

that 1 thread......

[@Edvinas_channel]

As someone without database experience - why would someone pay half a million dollars when there is opensource database software? is it that much better?

[@GianfrancoGallizia]

It's called the "this thing has to work flawlessly or else I'll sue Uranus so hard you'll stop to pay a nanosecond before the thermal death of the Universe" insurance premium.

[@TheBackyardChemist]

The 24 core P part is only 200 W max

[@Clobercow1]

OMG you know someone wanted it in 1337 dollars.

[@VelocciYT]

Path of Titans pog!

[@TosicTech]

🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻

[@kwinzman]

Really want to know: is the memory encryption (SME) _authenticated_ encryption?

[@kwinzman]

I would kill for having our RAM hardware encrypted with authenticated encryption like AES-AEGIS or similar.

[@GNARGNARHEAD]

Milan

[@qwertyfrozen]

That like/dislike ratio though.

[@piro133a]

BUT WHAT ABOUT 4TH GEN THREADRIPPER???

[@lastone032085]

Q3

[@leknyzma]

who doesn't have to run java in enterprise ?

[@mworld]

Ryzen 9 : OUT OF STOCK Epyc : Pallets available. Now we know where all the good zen 3 cores are going !@# Where's my 5950X replacement AMD >:/

[@nallwhite4146]

A lot of cores. Never enough of a good string.

[@ErraticPT]

How's they run FreeNAS? 🤓🤣

[@VigneshBalasubramaniam]

Does this mean I can get cheap Rome CPUs?

[@Level1Techs]

More cheap xeons? :)

[@Blacklands]

22:41 What's wrong with Java? I like Java... :(

[@kojack57]

Billion billion of this that and the other. 6 beautiful cores. Amazing. Right now however, all I want to know is who cut Wendell's hair and are they free this wee. Now on with the video.