Lever Gun Shootout: Marlin vs Smith & Wesson

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@FM-ki4dl
@FM-ki4dl 5 ай бұрын
Wanted a Marlin but good luck finding one.... ending buying the S&W 1854 and it works awesome! No regrets😮
@pingpong909
@pingpong909 5 ай бұрын
I picked mine up fine for 1500ish. Marlin 1895 sbl ruger made
@dittman2564
@dittman2564 5 ай бұрын
Got a Marlin Trapper S/S .44 mag June 29th. online, found a few, most were out of stock, the one I got was out the door priced lower priced than some and about the same as other's listed prices were. Gritr Sports in Texas. Saw the SBL version for less at a few places, a little more at others. It was easier to find as well. (it's been available longer). Saw the 1895 45-70 Trapper at the same place I got mine last year, grabagun, for 500 bucks less! In stock. (less than I paid for the 1894 .44 mag too!) The SBL in stock as well, both are available at a lot of places.
@MGMidget73
@MGMidget73 3 ай бұрын
But the manual says not to use +P or +P+. That's a non starter if I'm using for deer. Also it as issues cycling 44spl if you want to use inside as a home defense rifle. Why they made the action so weak as to not handle +P has me scratching my head. Big fail.
@brandondavis4306
@brandondavis4306 3 ай бұрын
@@MGMidget73 are you referring to the marlin or the smith and wesson?
@andrewjanes6035
@andrewjanes6035 2 ай бұрын
@@brandondavis4306 you can shoot +p out of the Marlin all day long
@shemp1howard
@shemp1howard 6 ай бұрын
Comparing 2 totally different guns. A 45-70 vs a 44mag.? Throwing a large rifle caliber usually requires a heavier, longer frame. Should have been compared the the Marlin 1894 SBL.
@clutchcargo1239
@clutchcargo1239 4 ай бұрын
I agree. I compared the two and bought the 1894 SBL. The 1854 isn't as attractive to me. I also bought 1894 C in 44 and 357. I already had the RM 1895 SBL. To me, the Rugers are all really nice guns. The 1854 with plain polymer stocks just doesn't turn my crank, but I imagine it's an OK shooter.
@shemp1howard
@shemp1howard 3 ай бұрын
@@clutchcargo1239 Agreed on the plastic stock thing🤮. Although I have a 444 marlin- I am currently hooked on Henrys, with a 44mag Steel, 44mag Brass and a 360 Buckhammer Steel.
@codymcclain3314
@codymcclain3314 4 ай бұрын
I bought both guns and the marlin is the better gun hands down. I didn't even get to shoot my s&w and it already had issues so i sent it back to them and it was returned with the same issues,the gun had rust on it and was filthy from when they shot it plus the burr marks on the tube end. My marlin on the other hand has been nothing but great and they will continue to get my business
@REDNECKROOTS
@REDNECKROOTS 7 ай бұрын
S&w got a tall order to throw henery and marlin off the top 2 spots in the lever action relm. Very tall order. Personally id buy the Marlin dark 336 30/30 or 1895 45/70 and not look bak.
@richardhoward3462
@richardhoward3462 Ай бұрын
Hard to find a "gun review" where anyone has anything critical to say about a big gun company. Everything is apparently just great about this rifle.
@Navy0401
@Navy0401 5 ай бұрын
My gun shop hasn't sold a single S&W where as can't keep a Marlin in stock for more than a few days.
@whahahajr
@whahahajr Ай бұрын
The new Ruger made Marlins are made to unload through the loading gate. Just push it down it come right out. No more wiggling or trying to finagle them out. It’s super easy. I can’t take credit for it. I’ll post the video link to were I saw the new feature. I have one and it works.
@dark30welderwelding11
@dark30welderwelding11 Ай бұрын
A friend told me that Smith is using Henry’s design with small mods. Supposedly this has to do with Henry designing his lever action while working for Smith before starting his own company. Anyone know the particulars ?
@scottsullivan7176
@scottsullivan7176 6 ай бұрын
I love my 1854 😎
@mikefranklin1253
@mikefranklin1253 6 ай бұрын
Does the S&W come in any rifle calibers?
@CrackinJacks138
@CrackinJacks138 5 ай бұрын
Negative, currently only .44
@dakotahills2.095
@dakotahills2.095 2 ай бұрын
@@CrackinJacks138 Wrong. They come in .45 LC.
@jarvisskooge8602
@jarvisskooge8602 Ай бұрын
I’ve got 1 of each… and they are both great. Although I’ve been eyeballing a Henry…
@jamesschiller7247
@jamesschiller7247 2 ай бұрын
Selling one of my kidneys on the black market to buy one of these.
@wc7102
@wc7102 5 ай бұрын
I got both. Luv em. Aimpoint Acro works great on the 45-70. If u don’t want to drop the $ on the Acro, Gideon has an Acro clone for around $200 that I really like as well
@clutchcargo1239
@clutchcargo1239 4 ай бұрын
I handled both the new Ruger Marlins 1894, 1895, and the S&W 1854. I like the Marlins over the S&W. I like the quality finish, smooth feel, and the looks of the Marlins better. If you really want a Marlin, they aren't that hard to find. In my experience, they are also relatively comparable in price. Choosing between the two manufacturers was easy for me. The all weather 44 1854, or the 44 1894 SBL. I held the 1854 first, the 1894 second. I bought the 1894 for $100 more... Worth it!. Love the gray laminate stocks/SS combination. Classy all weather look. Super smooth action and a decent all-around trigger... Thanks, Ruger.
@arsalanuljamil6840
@arsalanuljamil6840 3 күн бұрын
Any suggestion where to find Marlin at or under MSRP (30-30 19" model). Anybody has it in stock is asking around $1400 or above.
@clutchcargo1239
@clutchcargo1239 3 күн бұрын
@arsalanuljamil6840 Interestingly enough, the 30-30 is one I haven't seen yet. I'm not sure why. That and the 1894 SBL in 357. My only suggestion is if you see the one you want, don't hesitate to buy it. That might be why they are rare. They don't make it to the rack. I suppose that drives the price up. I guess also I may have been lucky earl on. I'd buy the 30-30 for nostalgic reasons. My first lever gun was my second rifle ever, which was a 1949 Marlin chambered in .32 Special. It was stolen by my ex back in 83 along with my first rifle and shotgun... A Marlin 60 and Remington 870... that's what I get for serving overseas... Oh, well. Anyway, my Dad used once fired 30-30 brass to make loads for that gun. I've never seen another like it. I think I never got over losing those guns... Lol! Good luck!!
@arsalanuljamil6840
@arsalanuljamil6840 3 күн бұрын
@@clutchcargo1239 Thank you for the reply. I'm trying to decide between this or the new S&W (in 44 mag) as my first lever action. In general reviews for both are quite positive. I prefer the 30-30 caliber of Marlin but the walnut finish of S&W...... choices 😊
@clutchcargo1239
@clutchcargo1239 3 күн бұрын
@arsalanuljamil6840 I think you will be happy with whatever you choose. I don't think you can go wrong with any of them. The S&W 1854 with walnut stocks would be an amazing choice. The one I handled was polymer. I prefer the pretty wood. The metal finish was also cericoated flat black. I like the shiny blue finish or Stainless steel better, but I think they will all shoot about the same.
@arsalanuljamil6840
@arsalanuljamil6840 3 күн бұрын
@clutchcargo1239 Yep, I prefer nice wood as well especially on lever action guns as it gives them the classic wild west vibes.
@TerronMeek
@TerronMeek 4 ай бұрын
Can you shoot +P loads out of the Smith and Wesson Lever .44 Magnum. I had a Marlin and it blew up with a +P so i got a Henry and haven’t shot it yet. Afraid it will blow up also.
@MGMidget73
@MGMidget73 3 ай бұрын
No, and that's a major fail if you want to deer hunt. Also issues with cycling 44spl if you want to use inside as a home defense rifle. I'd go Henry or Ruger Marlin.
@hunterbasselite6826
@hunterbasselite6826 3 ай бұрын
What model marlin ?? The 1895 is safe for pressures of plus P .. most modern levers are .
@dakotahills2.095
@dakotahills2.095 2 ай бұрын
Read your manual. It will tell you what you can & cannot shoot out of it.
@woodrowmagnus2535
@woodrowmagnus2535 5 ай бұрын
What about the Winchesters?
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 5 ай бұрын
Better than all the rest, frankly. Japan knows how to craft firearms. People confuse features with quality, if they don't like a top eject they will say it's inferior when that's got nothing to do with design, form, fit, and function. No idea why the host of this video gushed all over this S&W. Other reviews haven't been as over the top. S&W seemed to have rushed it to the game and there's final assembly issues leading to loose screws and other things that lack attention to detail. The usual S&W stuff that's been going on for YEARS now, which Ruger (producing new Marlins) would not accept. And let's not mention S&W customer service problems.
@MGMidget73
@MGMidget73 3 ай бұрын
​@@exothermal.sprocketLike a lot of car reviewers some firearms reviewers hoe themselves to manufacturers because they fear not getting review invites if they give an honest review, warts and all. More people should call them out publicly shame and thumbs down.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 3 ай бұрын
@@MGMidget73 If the platform didn't eliminate ability to criticize like this.
@richardkev3077
@richardkev3077 4 ай бұрын
I’ve had two Marlins. Both were fine guns, but I never did get consistent accuracy from either when shooting cast bullets. My Winchester had no problems. At the time I was told to blame the “micro-groove” rifling. I don’t know if it was true or not. Sold both. Fast forward a few decades. My .44 Winchester broke. I haven’t yet found a replacement part. So I bought a Henry. I’d have considered a Marlin since it’s now being made by Ruger, and apparently made without the “micro-groove” rifling, but it wasn’t available in .44. So far, the Henry works fine. It handles 300-grain bullets-my Winchester never did-and it as been stone reliable. Marlin? It’s at least 30% more $$, so I won’t be trading in my Henry.
@dukenukem69
@dukenukem69 3 ай бұрын
I have both, prefer the marlins looks but the henry brass side gate woth octagonal barrel is just old school cool
@tomg6284
@tomg6284 2 ай бұрын
Check the twist rate. Many lever guns had the wrong twist rates. A 44mag throwing 250gr needs around a 20. I remember years ago the only twist that was correct was Winchester. Henery's were using a twist for a 45/70. Way to slow, 38 or something. Not good. FYI, use a balitic app to check.
@bkhix208
@bkhix208 6 ай бұрын
This year? Had mine for over a year 🤙🏽
@adriandeshazo7291
@adriandeshazo7291 7 ай бұрын
Did anyone else see the s&w eject 2 rounds in the slow mo
@tylerfreel85
@tylerfreel85 7 ай бұрын
That was operator error
@agentbullwinkle991
@agentbullwinkle991 6 ай бұрын
Probably .44 Special. Leverguns don't like .44 Special
@user-ev2qo1hj1g
@user-ev2qo1hj1g Ай бұрын
Smith runs a forged stainless receiver. Not sure about the others!
@Middleofmonta
@Middleofmonta 4 ай бұрын
45 70 vs 44 ? No comparison
@chipsterb4946
@chipsterb4946 5 ай бұрын
Best Marlins *since the 1950s*. Earlier Marlins are in another class. To me, the S&W is overpriced for a plastic stock.
@hunteraltman5517
@hunteraltman5517 3 ай бұрын
S&W all the way and not just this I’m talking about pistols too. The M&P 2.0 out shoots a Glock and out does a Glock in a torture test with is huge bc Glock is a tough handgun
@hunteraltman5517
@hunteraltman5517 2 ай бұрын
@@tangotango-gs6lp 😂 I’m sorry for having an opinion. Nothing against Glock but I like Smith&Wesson better 🤷🏼‍♂️
@hunteraltman5517
@hunteraltman5517 2 ай бұрын
@@tangotango-gs6lp No that’s an opinion. And in my opinion, I think they make great guns. I’ve had my M&P 2.0 9mm for years and put thousands of rounds through it and its never jammed. That’s a great gun in my opinion. If you don’t think so, that’s your opinion and that’s cool too.
@sdix3770
@sdix3770 2 ай бұрын
Go up against a JM stamped Marlin
@hawkeye1376
@hawkeye1376 7 ай бұрын
Marlin all the way
@IAmAMeateater
@IAmAMeateater 2 ай бұрын
Both
@michaelbarfield528
@michaelbarfield528 7 ай бұрын
Awaiting a "Recall" from Smith & Wesson with their track record on Quality Control recently 10 MM Auto issue, Shotgun issue and FPC issue....
@Rustebadge
@Rustebadge 6 ай бұрын
I own more S&W products than you can count, and have an incredible record and experience with reliability. Hmmm?
@TheSmore15
@TheSmore15 Ай бұрын
The only smith and Wesson items I buy are there revolvers so my vote is marlin
@mr.mr.3301
@mr.mr.3301 Ай бұрын
Waiting for that smith in 3030
@emiliohernandez2790
@emiliohernandez2790 2 ай бұрын
I love marlins...But since ruger had tooken over....I haven't seen one anywhere....So henry is my new favorite...besides the prices marlins are going for....Nope...not playing that game....
@robertfusco3884
@robertfusco3884 4 ай бұрын
Who picked this guy to host this video? I like really like think like they could have like done better. 🇺🇸
@seanpeterson9413
@seanpeterson9413 4 ай бұрын
Marlin all the way for sure. Smith & Wesson will never get a $ from me. Lousy company for customer service
@codymcclain3314
@codymcclain3314 4 ай бұрын
I bought a 1854 and it had problems before I even shot it,so I sent it back to be fixed and it came back in worse shape and it was a new gun
@RoadTraveler
@RoadTraveler 5 ай бұрын
Bump
@brutushunting
@brutushunting 3 ай бұрын
🤟⚡
@RoadTraveler
@RoadTraveler 5 ай бұрын
Algorithm
@Middleofmonta
@Middleofmonta 4 ай бұрын
The trigger sucks!!!
@Numberfive037
@Numberfive037 4 ай бұрын
On which one?
@eduardoolaechea
@eduardoolaechea 7 ай бұрын
Why would anyone buy a lever action that looks like an AR-15?
@Austinsairplanes
@Austinsairplanes 6 ай бұрын
The M lok slots and qd sling mounts are nice for actual functionality.
@dittman2564
@dittman2564 5 ай бұрын
Because not every person has the same tastes etc. Some prefer one way or the other, some like both. Differences in taste are one of the things that makes people individuals. Thankfully, we don't all like the exact same things. I personally prefer a traditional blued/wood lever gun, but I also like S/S levers with laminated stocks. And I also like many, but not all, of the tactical levers. But I definitely wouldn't want my only lever gun(s) to be tactical style.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 5 ай бұрын
Because people who should like broccoli, carrots, potatoes, beef stew, and bacon would rather eat pop tarts, corn flakes, drink Red Bull and eat Slim Jims. Everyone has their own tastes.
@gtronin2631
@gtronin2631 4 ай бұрын
Looks like all the Marlin fanboys just got triggered.
@MGMidget73
@MGMidget73 3 ай бұрын
Ruger has done a great job bringing back Marlin to it's former glory.
@CapoKabar
@CapoKabar 6 ай бұрын
Sw is trash nowadays
@dakotahills2.095
@dakotahills2.095 2 ай бұрын
What the hell is wrong with Henry Rifles? They should be in your comparison shoot off. They are great guns. What is your problem?
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