Leviathan Mass Effect 3 part 6 - Shepard meets Leviathan [full dialogue]

I'll upload the other parts soon! Please bear in mind that this is NOT a playthrough, I'm just going to the important bits!
This is the last part of the mission - Shepards goes into the deep ocean and meets Leviathan
View crew's thoughts here - • Leviathan Mass Effect ...
Romanced Garrus in Mass Effect 2 and 3.
Squad - Garrus and Javik
For more Mass Effect stories, please visit headshotsandmana.wordpress.com !
And also, you can like us on facebook! / childof90s

[@joaovictor2754]

Javik: in my cicle... Leviathan: shut up lesser race

[@TheObscuran]

The player: Shut up plot hole...

[@Sombomombo]

"Hey Cthulu, buddy, you down here?"

[@DeeCoyFR]

22:10 Cthulu one shot reeper lol

[@Pantherazure]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Nakarotto1]

“It’s me, your boy/girl”

[@yarronj6117]

"We noticed that biological species kept making machines that rose up and destroyed them so to fix this we made machines that rose up and destroyed us". 200IQ

[@drincogni]

They believed they would be able to control them to do their bidding.The solution is a balance between creation and destruction

[@maciejkowalski2114]

22:05 Wow really powerful scene seeing the reaper just blue screen and fall into the abyss.

[@Midgert89]

Blue screen lol. Well played.

[@adamsrealm]

It's frightening to think the singular mind of a leviathan can exert a stronger will than the compound mind of a reaper (which is literally a small nation)

[@MuffinMan0521]

@@adamsrealm I don't know if that statement is necessarily true. They created those orb things that they can control and perhaps turning them on amplifies their abilities. It shows like 5 of them powering up before the Reaper goes dark.

[@matejkopa97]

@@MuffinMan0521 I think those are just relays.

[@rimjobledouche5201]

This mission is basically Shepard yelling at Cthulu until it helps her out.

[@DonDiego256]

There is only one rule on that planet: Don't F--- With Leviathan.

[@jeremybk54]

isn't that a rule of thumb on any planet with a leviathan type creature?

[@dragonlord1935]

​@@jeremybk54 As someone who's seen both Subnautica(s); I can confirm, you absolutely DO NOT f---- with any Leviathan class creature.

[@Sleepy1988]

This is a reference to what Aria t’Loak says on Omega in Mass Effect 2, for anyone that doesn’t know.

[@johnnyscifi]

Sheppards dive to Leviathan is fucking terrifying!!!

[@johnnyscifi]

Its even bigger than Harbinger, just chilling on the bottom of the ocean

[@kumisz2]

+johnnyscifi This entire mission is terrifying.

[@erenprofil]

Horror story with femshep

[@Derekthetau]

So this is what you miss when you don't buy the DLC...

[@MIKE2111ful]

How can they even do this this is a huge part of the story

[@lorddeath6300]

Fuck I haven’t played the dlcs my life is a lie 😭

[@daviedood2503]

@@lorddeath6300 nows a good chance locked down. 😂 👌

[@ethansears4458]

@@lorddeath6300 First time I've played the DLCs was years after they were released lol.

[@Wolfknight16]

@@ethansears4458 I played all of them except the last one. Citadel, I think. Hopefully, all the DLC will come with the remaster that's coming out this year.

[@silverlilly3276]

"Today they pay their tribute in blood" Damn. I can see where the reapers got their dramatic personality. The Apple doesn't fall far from the proverbial underwater squid tree.

[@Aska2468]

I think Leviathan is a badass. Too bad this wasn't in the game from the beginning. I also love the music, the mysterious tune fits the scene perfectly. Although the part starting at 19:57 could be longer, it's so epic!

[@jeremybk54]

part of me wishes that if you had finished this you could go into the final battle with 1 or 2 Reapers under Leviathan control helping you

[@samsmith4242]

More like, they take control of the indoctrinated soldiers and split the reapers forces in half

[@kellyanderson1194]

The Leviathan used their freaky alien telepathy to learn to speak in a language shepard understands. They got the knowledge from shepard's brain, and becasue shepard refers to Nazara as Sovereign, so will they.

[@Nille08151]

The "Shell" is allways designed like Harbinger, but inside of the shell is a unique Reaper designed after the dominant species of each harvest. You can imply that when you listen carefully to everything said in the three games (in ME2 Harbinger kinda categorizes every race and the only one's that where worth are: Human an Krogan, but Krogans are steril and therefore wasted..only humas have what it takes AND are large in Numbers)...

[@lildaiki7629]

I theorized that's the real reason why Saren tried curing the genophage. It was because that plan failed the collector's started focusing on humans.

[@gibbyfraustro2509]

@@lildaiki7629 make sense too krogan are literally the fearsome creatures of the galaxy the only one capable standing toe to toe again one would be a human, turian, and a rachi . Hell the rachi and krogan were evenly matched against one another but lost with the whole galaxy stopping them

[@solinvictus4367]

As a historian story arcs like these fascinate me... when wars turn out to be simply part of much larger conflicts stretching back centuries. The Reaper cycles are the result of a millions of years old mistake. Human conflict is very similar. For example WW1 and 2 are actually the culmination of centuries of conflict between the European powers going all the way back to the days of Charlesmagne

[@Canadianvoice]

Couldn't you just say the present is a culmination of everything that has happened in the past?

[@fadillangston9797]

I can't really say the same as a sci fi fan. I've seen this story hundreds of times.

[@MegaLotusEater]

@Sting Chameleon It'a not a historically meaningful statement. European conflict didn't begin with Charlemagne. It goes back further. So it's a bit of an arbitrary moment to start the clock. Also, there's no connection between Charlemagne and WW1 and WW2. So again, a bit arbitrary.

[@MegaLotusEater]

@Sting Chameleon You enjoy incorrect history tid bits? ok

[@MegaLotusEater]

@Sting Chameleon You're not very bright, are you?

[@TheSigmaElite1987]

Today..They pay their Tribute in Blood

[@aliveithink6985]

Lee! I thought you were dead! EDIT: He changed he´s name because Lee is dead, he is just a false prophet!

[@quarkyquasar893]

+ariel sharpe I thought you were alive!

[@aliveithink6985]

Red Sniper I thought you were in a dimension were "life" isnt nothing but a word!

[@quarkyquasar893]

ariel sharpe Keep Thinking lol and idk what you are talking about the prophet thing

[@DeltaXFrost00]

Seriously?this should've been in the main game,this explains whi created the reapers which pretty much is the main threat in the series but because of ea greediness,they put in in a dlc

[@josesuarez7484]

Same thing with Javik (From Ashes), Omega, Shadow Broker, Overlord, need I go on? I just hate how 50% of the story just has to be DLC.

[@DeltaXFrost00]

Jose Suarez Yeah,i do need to give it to ea on making good games,but it's just that their greediness,putting pieces of story in DLC,this seriously need to stop

[@josesuarez7484]

+Viriya Citta Indeed. These are AAA console and PC games, not smartphone apps. It's such a dirty move to charge players $60 for an incomplete game, then make them pay roughly another $60 to complete it. This is making me feel less enthusiastic about getting Mass Effect: Andromeda, or any other upcoming EA game for that matter. I miss the early 2000's, when games were complete and there was no DLC, just unlockables that made it more fun.

[@marco4149]

Same with From Ashes and Omega, but you know, EA. In the main game we were going to be able to do missions in Palaven, but because of time they had to replace it with the boring ass Citadel mission.

[@Paul-A01]

The reapers were far better being unexplained monsters from the dark. Don't explain the monster, it ruins the mystery.

[@Amollion]

It sounds to me really that the Leviathans will help fight the Reapers only to replace them

[@archangel1178]

Ashleigh Dungate I sincerely doubt that Leviathan, post-war, would accept the authority of the Council

[@titanjakob1056]

Archangel 117 why would they accept the council they see themselves as a higher species that control everything so they see this as an opportunity to take control of all life and play god when the reapers are destroyed and unless the council knows about them my guess is there first order of business is wipe them the hell out

[@cooldude333]

Better a monster be your ally than to be in its path.

[@EvanOK]

If we get Mass Effect 4, I think it would be a really cool idea for the antagonists to be the Leviathans, who are trying to reforge their intergalactic semi-divine empire.

[@godmode8687]

@@EvanOK I mean it could be an absolute mess. Not only the leviathans would try to reforge their empire. We have discovered two prothean bases which were build to wait for the next cycle. Yes, both failed. But in thousands of cycles chance is there are other empires which succeded. Maybe just hiding their civilisation on one planet, waiting for the reapers to finally be defeated. Which would mean they have a significant technological edge, as they could be researching and developing for thousands of years already. Would be fun to see a galaxy which is again in an absolute war with hundreds of new species, all fighting to restore their former, old, empire. And all of that without mass relays.

[@aspopulvera9130]

"they are the echoes, we existed long before"

[@TheJonnie84]

Today..They pay their Tribute in Blood

[@metznimbo29]

Leviathan is so badass, destroying a reaper just by thinking. It really shows how primitive we are on Earth, and how powerful a species could become.

[@A-Duck]

Lev: "We saw other species fashion AI to use as tools, only to be destroyed by their creation. So we made an AI as a tool to solve this. It betrayed us, nearly wiped us from existence, and has been habitually massacring all intelligent life for eons since" Shep: "Ya dun fucked up, huh?" Lev: "B-baka! We made no mistake! It did it's job, didn't it!?" The Leviathan are just an entire race of tsunderes. Confirmed.

[@MakSte]

12:25 This statement is like music to my ears. "Something more"

[@TristenGRrrather]

I wish Mass Effect 3 had more of this.

[@valko96]

um ok i just realized something. When we kill all the reapers nothing stops the Leviathan from using their orbs from enslaving the whole galaxy.

[@nutbusta931]

It’s actually explained in their War Asset info. Their is only a small amount of artifacts they have. That and there appears to only be a handful of them left so I don’t think there is enough Leviathans to conquer trillions of lives belonging to non primitive races.

[@andresmarrero8666]

I don't think they are interested in doing that. Their time had come and gone.

[@vinnie906]

To this day, one of the best DLC ever in the history of video games. Still deserved to be part of the main game, but hey.

[@R4Y2k]

I had the time of my life uncovering the secrets of this story. Just fantastic, best game i've ever played.

[@cristianotey9537]

One of the best DLC's of all time

[@meatballg8655]

Me: Jesus Christ why can’t the reapers ever give a straight answer why do they always have to talk like some omnipotent oncoming storm Leviathan: we were there before we are something more Me: ah now it all makes sense

[@Pantherazure]

Mr. Leviathan is just explaining the DLC at 12:25 though

[@Taospark]

Leviathan: Let's see this puny Shepard kill a Reaper alone like this! Shepard on Rannoch: Targeting laser's all I need

[@lukehaddad5185]

Shepard did have ENTIRE Quarian fleet linked to the Normandie's targetting lasers

[@JamelSeyek]

Thanks for posting this. Now I understand a little more about what the Leviathan/s said.

[@codyself6988]

This was cool. I forgot about this until now. Awesome story elements.

[@TheWaterboy818]

Reapers had the same design because Harbinger believed he was the ultimate design. More than likely, Harbinger started to change to a human reaper because of the tenacity and etc. the humans had.

[@Palafico3]

No, the outer shell is Reaper design, the image of the species is contained inside.

[@tilltronje1623]

@@Palafico3 does that mean the human reaper in the collector base would have been incased in the standard reaper shell? I never understood why that one looked like a human and not like a reaper

[@Kagranth]

I'd like to imagine, since the Reapers were built on Harbingers design, the Collectors (under Reaper indoctrination) constructed a new type of reaper based on the species that defeated Harbinger.

[@VoodooV1]

the "human" reaper in ME2 was tiny compared to sovereign so yeah, it seems kind of absurd, but apparently they are encased inside the "standard" reaper shell. I never really cared for that part of ME2 because yeah, it just seems silly. That and somehow grinding up a bunch of humans creates a reaper? uhhh okay

[@gbishop1774]

@@tilltronje1623 yes. Just as others have said the reapers find the most dominant race in the cycle and harvest them. The reaper at first resembles the race it was harvested from which in ME2 was of course humans, but it could've been Turian, Krogan, Asari, etc. If they were harvested instead of us. But later down the line the rest of the reaper is formed and that human center is just somewhere deep inside. So Harbinger wasn't switching to a human design at all it was just simply part of the formation of a new reaper

[@ech0seeker]

Did anyone else notice his eyes when she asked him about The Crucible? There's something more going on here

[@blakedevitt6948]

How cool would it have been to have an entire main-story mission down here. Guns, squad, and all. Like in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1 there's a mission in which you travel to Atlantis. Business as usual but you're given these nanites to create a breathing apparatus for all characters.

[@fastold]

leviathan reminds me of the old ones from h.p lovecraft's stories

[@breakblade97]

space cthulhu

[@EastlakeRasta7]

discount*

[@helpmereach690subscribers3]

13:28 I like this line. None of the races in mass effect even pose a challenge to the reapers. The turians they need to apply a little effort but they are no threat. The only threat to them. Is one person. One human. This one human is their only hope

[@dreman999]

ME3 Leviathan did explain it. It's quantum entailment via Mass effect fields. Remember, Thoughts are just surges of electricity in our brain. Using quantum entailment would be easy to transfer thoughts.

[@natej1026]

Leviathan: *get's annoyed* Reaper: *deletes system 32*

[@bengunn9670]

Leviathan voice is pure ASMR.

[@xarielxandersoon2464]

This bit always makes my skin crawl and my eyes water. FFS Mass Effect is fucking awesome.

[@flabbergastedTart]

This hole game has "HOW THE FUNK ARE SUPPOSED TO END THIS" written all over it.

[@erictheblackdragon]

Some of the best dlc I have ever seen...more!

[@normandy1140]

I stopped playing video games a few years back. But I loved the ME series. The storyline for Leviathan freaking blew my mind. Andromeda was not great. Kudos to the ME production team for this series.

[@TheWaterboy818]

Leviathan said that each new reaper is designed after harbinger, who is designed after leviathan's species. I think the DNA does not matter, just the mass needed and etc.

[@aramiswow]

multumesc pentru acest upload, eu nu am facut misiunea asta ,m-a facut sa inteleg mai multe despre cum au aparut reaperii.

[@kiwizproductions]

Scumbag leviathans. Saying they couldn't go and end the cycle only to shortly after kill a reaper with their minds with no apparent effort at all.

[@RandomGarryGaming]

I think it's still feasible. They have power of the Reapers as they are today due to their organic components but pure machines they would be powerless to stop.

[@Taafe]

Xyrgra Actually they don't have all the powers of the reapers. For example they can't shoot metal beams :P because they're fully organic they have a more powerful mind than the reapers. Possible not as such with Harbinger though. And they're also vastly smaller than a capital ship reaper.

[@terrypennington2519]

Was I the only one who thought "Ah shit, here we go again. Once the Reapers are killed, we'll have to kill the Leviathans to." I mean it's obvious they have no intentions on fighting the reapers for the sake of the galaxy, they're only doing it because they perceive themselves as the apex species. In other words, we're trading the reapers, for the Leviathans.

[@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger]

Trading is a very open term; they're apex, that only means they have to prove their power. Humans aren't an apex species to them but Shep is an anomaly; Leviathans have no need to control everyone, and they know what happens when they allow their hubris to get the better of them. Post-Reapers: I could see them happily remaining on their ocean planet so long as they have some followers and tribute to satisfy them. It's a bit galaxy and people go missing all the time; so long as the dominant collective governing body doesn't draw attention to the deal,I could see Leviathans content to remain in their little pocket of the galaxy and observe what when and where they can by proxy.

[@DrewSavo]

There’s over a thousand atmospheres of pressure down there! How many can the ship withstand? Well it’s a spaceship, so I’d say anywhere between Zero and One.

[@Veridiano02]

"You exist because we allow it, and you will perish because we demand it. We are beyond your comprehension" Sovereign, Mass Effect 1 "We are the cheap solution to continue the reapers saga without the reapers" Levianthan DLC, Mass Effect 3

[@Furgan21]

the moment Shepart jumps, The Abyss movie starts, wow

[@Pantherazure]

Just a casual observation: IMHO ... The Leviathan are symbolic of bacteria, or in biological terms Kingdom 'Monera', the first life. Reapers are symbolic of viruses, neither living, not dead either! Furthermore, just like viruses rely on living host to replicate, similarly reapers rely on living populations to replicate themselves! Both Bacteria and Viruses are known to be very ancient, and the origin of both are not fully understood yet! Perhaps that explains their megalomania (in game)

[@TalrenHawke]

that leviathan literally thought "turn off" and shut down not just a reaper but one of the big dreadnaught class reapers...how in the fuck have the leviathans not one fully rebuilt their former empire and two defeated the reapers before now like holy shit they are scary

[@CodeineRadick]

Maybe the ability has a long cooldown? 🤣

[@piotrnapora5810]

What good is winning a battle when you can't win the war? They are few in numbers and their abilities are dependent on these spheres. They knew they wouldn't win against the Reapers so they went into hiding

[@korblaix6895]

I hope we get to see them again in the new Mass effect game ;)

[@AdhocHoopla]

Not to mention that they are really, really old. ;D

[@kingofgames5206]

I have finished this game 11 times exactly during the last 5 years and I am waiting to issue a new part, but Andromeda reveals the secret and where it came from so far and just after I got all the additions and finished this stage and I rushed to find this quickly😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@croplaya]

My power went out in the middle of this F@$#* conversation!!!

[@SamWinchester11]

I loved the ocean waves on the docks and only wish that area had been made into a multiplayer arena. (Even a fight underwater would have been great)

[@Nille08151]

The Variants are inside the "Sovereign like" Shell...

[@0142Jason]

Anyone else thinks it’s funny that the creators of the reapers sounds like Jigsaw?

[@Wasabs]

So wait their meaning of coming out and fighting is staying in the same place while doing mind control shit through orbs... Okay

[@Geekezf]

You probably had your answers in four years but, they can shut down a reaper by mind control and by extent, in the entire galaxy throught their orb, i think, it's a good advantage there.

[@dylanbecerra4179]

@@Geekezf FR, imagine if the allies were able to gather as many of those orbs for the battle of Earth. How many of those reapers in the final fight would’ve been shut down?

[@Geekezf]

@@dylanbecerra4179 a lot?

[@harbingerwolf1179]

They never should have changed the Reapers origin, "we have no beginning, we have no end" to "lmao we're just robots made by ancient aliens" shit. They could still keep the reapers having their own origin be some electrical form of life that created its own platform to control organic races like they seemed to be in ME1. The leviathans could just be the first race they harvested.

[@terryautry6493]

ready for this again lol

[@cavok84]

Look, a vorlon!

Yeah, in a way the Leviathans are the Vorlons, and the Reapers are the Shadows. Both of them are bad news for the younger races.

[@pocketsdsquirrel3207]

After this DLC, listening to Leviathan and the story behind the reapers, it makes more sense now to pick the "Control" option now. It serves the leviathans purpose of protecting the lesser species, shepherd saves the galaxy, and no one, VI or AI, will be hurt.

[@Veridiano02]

None of that endings made sense.

[@daltonpage1319]

Shepard has a strong mind to be able to resist Leviathan

[@cobeoe]

What they have is an incredible opportunity there the Reapers wiped out a lot of Life Time and Time Again but those ships crash there could be some of the lives lost to the Reapers

[@eclipseslayer98]

They probably leave the harvested ones out in the dark space where they can be preserved and only take the very first ones with them. "Leviathan reapers"

[@Pantherazure]

The Leviathan DLC is self explained at 12:25 though

[@Mankryl]

Awesome voice mister leviathan

[@blakedevitt6948]

Hope that Javik and Leviathans and other new races are in ME4.

[@VORP125]

I am still not sure if Leviathans think that Reapers are bad or good.

[@OroborosDuskcrow]

Supremely dope.

[@jessewilliams519]

y cant this be in the main story its self??!!!

[@jasonhenry8067]

Wait, how did he check the pressure inside the mech with the hatch open?

[@Egobyte83]

This means that before all cycles, all sentient species were essentially enslaved by the Leviathan species. How Andromeda came to be about Andromeda and not the fight against the Leviathan after the reapers had been dealt with is baffling.

[@Geekezf]

4 ending possibles, and Bioware didn't have the guts to choose a canon one. But more of that they were trapepd : The control ending put the Leviathan in defeat if the entire galaxy + reapers are against them. Synthesis ending put the leviathan under Control. Destruct ending is the only one where they are an actual threat. The fourth where the cycle continue..well, the cycle continue.

[@gabrielemblem605]

@@Geekezf and thats why the only possible conclusion for this franchise is to follow the Desctruct ending, since Andromeda was a failure the had to return to our galaxy. Hyper for the new ME

[@Geekezf]

@@gabrielemblem605 Let's hope you're right and it's the ending they choose..and ffs please this game be good. I'm not hype, i'm worried tough.

[@gabrielemblem605]

come on its EA what could go wro... I cant even say this ironically @@Geekezf

[@titanjakob1056]

My mind was blown when I first met the leviathan hearing the revelation that the reapers aren’t here to destroy or control the most advance species but to preserve all advance organic life as part of them or as data and that harbinger was not only the most powerful

[@redragongaming]

Nope, Leviathan's are there to ensure that humanity doesn't learn about their true history/knowledge. Even in their current weaken state as humanity, the Protheans are still able to scare the shit out of the Leviathan's. It's also because they don't want that AI intelligence to wake up and alert Shepard. You may wonder about Javik, then you must know he's an offspring of Leviathan which has evolved on land.

[@GreatUniter]

@@redragongaming Javik isn't a leviathan, he's a prothean. The protheans didn't know about the leviathans. The protheans likely didn't even exist when the leviathans ruled the galaxy billions of years ago.

[@MakSte]

@@redragongaming you should replay the series to better understand the plot

[@Szczauqa]

@@MakSte one does not need a reason to replay the trilogy

[@bunsonbaker4156]

Down...down...in the deep

[@goldtaills]

I fucking love these guys XL

[@loud9829]

REVERSE MASS EFFECTS EVERYBODY EVERYTHING

[@Oprichnik2]

I wonder if mass effect 4 will have leviathans, like some boss or master mind behind all crimes :O

[@jamesmccarthy962]

Might do now we are getting a true ME4 (:

[@otomicans6580]

Pretty funny to see them attempt to land on the planet in a shuttle then send Shepard down in a diving bell without testing anything. Can we go underwater in this equipment? Who knows. Let's find out!

[@opticalduck2587]

Hey Cthulhu, it’s me, ya boi shepherd

[@Tsumefan2]

is sovereign good or bad? or neutral

[@KingZealotTactics]

Sadly i never got to experience any of the dlc for Mass Effect. : /

[@j.erider2748]

Mass Effect Subnautica

[@zenithquasar9623]

Omg, why was this a DLC?! O.o

[@homeygfunkoffacherryfruitl4971]

That Admiral Hackett guy. Is that Lance Motherfuckin Henrikson?

[@Robertward111]

omg shepard what happened to you?

[@dsdy1205]

I used to be really confused at why the Leviathans just hid there and let the Reapers continue their work instead of trying something. But if you think about it, if the Reapers have been around for millions of years, that's still just peanuts against the age of the Universe. If the Leviathan race is even just a billion years old against the Universe's 14, that's 1000x the age of the Reapers. To them, this might literally just be the equivalent of the morbid fascination one might feel over watching the bathroom flood with water. Good for a few minutes of speculation, before you unclog the drain.

[@andreikravtchenko555]

EA will pay their tribute in blood for the mess this game turned out to be.

[@PrometheuzReturns]

Sheppard should have won the war if the writers allowed it, it would have been icing on the cake. the potential the game had was squandered.... Fucking Casey Hudson...

[@javieralejandro8221]

How Big is the Leviathan?

[@totalanthony]

They are capable of destroying the reapers but they hid for billions of years?

[@JackMcCoy331]

I think maybe one on one but they at this point out numbered

[@piotrnapora5810]

What good is winning a battle when you can't win the war?

[@InsaneMedic]

LEVIATHAN LOOKS SOOO AWESOME!!! to bad it's only a DLC -.-

[@MidnightShamalan]

too many comments about how "bad ass" the leviathan is. the leviathan is just as bad as the reapers in my book, only cowards. the reapers with their twisted form of "preserving life" by harvesting it. the leviathans are only thinking of self preservation by hiding away and watching the cycle over and over even though they could have helped end it. both waiting for a new solution to present itself. both an equal part to the same twisted problem. sure, it's great back story. but really? hiding away on one planet, a shell of what they used to be, and they're okay with it? just.. "okay, they beat us guys. nothing we can possibly do, even though we can control them with our minds. let's just live underwater here for millions of years. doing nothing. i know we're supreme beings and all, but i think we should just act like plants for a while." i don't buy it.

[@MetaKnight964]

^ It's pretty pathetic whenever someone freaks out over a work of fiction.

[@christopherhall5361]

they can't just control the Reapers minds as easy as you make it sound, or they would have done it, obviously it takes effort on their part and anything they want to control has to be in the presence of the fragments. and yeah they thought of self preservation, they were facing extinction. This one Leviathan calls himself the progeny of the survivors, so the other 2 are not likely survivors of the first harvest, which probably means those that survived did in fact die, so they're not immortal just extremely long lived. if Humanity had only just enough to keep the race alive, they wouldn't throw them at an enemy the know they can't beat, they'd run away and hide and wait for a chance to fight back effectively. everything about this is totally plausible except the Leviathan race itself

[@Hunter-pt4zy]

Supposedly Harbinger alone was enough to make them turn tail and run and hide. So how could they fight an army of them now?

[@MakSte]

@@Hunter-pt4zy .. also... Harbinger wasnt alone. He was with the original AI's which constructed him.

[@lucasdelatorre7087]

how deep is that dive?

[@liberatetutemeexinferis5902]

About two miles.

[@MrGeneralissimus]

Cthulhu will save us!

[@AltarinTV]

Entire Plot of Mass Effect Andromeda could have been soo much better if storywriters took a look at this conversations. Preservation of Life. Soo good of a reason. it found a solution. but it never said its the only solution, and there is handful galaxy just few hundred years worth of travel time away. Nothing to species that is only active few years for every 50000 years in this galaxy. And since it would be boring to just fight Reapers in Andromeda too, how about AI coming up with different solution. There is already even handbook from Leviathan on how to enthrall "lesser" species to do their bidding, so just enslave whole galaxy. Even through the indoctrination or something. or how about by providing them with 'teaching' and technology, which would ultimate lead to their enslavement by the Reapers or something. Yeah i know there tons of holes in these ideas, but almost anything would have been better than the story we got and there is so much potential. Its so sad it was completely wasted.

[@piotrnapora5810]

I wouldn't call them holes - a scaffolding has "holes" too - but a good starting point

[@RyanKaufman]

You found a plot hole created by Mass Effect 3's evisceration of what 1 and 2 were setting up thanks to IGN leaking 3's plot and causing a rewrite. I'd google the original plot. It's much better and explains your question.

[@enestezcan2289]

İ dont know why but it is realy stupid the put this in the dlc it is realy important and good story about rippers origin